Quotes of the day
posted at 11:06 pm on October 6, 2011 by Allahpundit
“Their chief target is Wall Street, but many of the demonstrators in New York and across the U.S. also are thoroughly disgusted with Washington, blaming politicians of both major parties for policies they say protect corporate America at the expense of the middle class.
“‘At this point I don’t see any difference between George Bush and Obama. The middle class is a lot worse than when Obama was elected,’ said John Penley, an unemployed legal worker from Brooklyn…
“But while tea party activists eventually became a crucial part of the Republican coalition, the Occupy Wall Street protesters are cutting President Barack Obama little slack. They say Obama failed to crack down on the banks after the 2008 mortgage meltdown and financial crisis.
‘”He could have taken a much more populist, aggressive stance at the beginning against Wall Street bonuses, and exacting certain change from bailing out the banks,’ said Michael Kazin, a Georgetown University history professor and author of ‘American Dreamers,’ a history of the left. ‘But ultimately, the economy has not gotten much better, and that’s underscored the frustration on both the right and the left.’”
“Anti-Wall Street protesters marched past the gates of the White House on Thursday, bringing their message of economic injustice to the capital and posing an opportunity, but also a threat, to President Obama, who presents himself as a fervent defender of the middle class.
“Brandishing placards that said ‘No More Wall Street White House’ and chanting ‘Shame! Shame!’ the crowd took aim at the president, even if it saved most of its vitriol for the nearby headquarters of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce — or as one banner labeled it, ‘Chamber of Corporate Horrors.’…
“‘There’s a lot of discontent with Obama’s policies,’ said Kevin Zeese, an organizer of the protest, which drew about 500 people. ‘Obama is out of touch. He’s busy going around the country raising $1 billion to run for re-election.’…
“‘With the people he put in, Goldman Sachs basically occupies the White House,’ said one of the protesters, Bill Brunot, 60, a mechanical engineer from Winchester, Va. ‘We got sold out; the banks got bailed out.’”
“Senate Democrats, in interviews today with National Review Online, roundly praised the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement. Sen. John Kerry (D., Mass.), for example, identified himself as an ally of the cause. ‘I’m very, very understanding of where they’re coming from,’ he said. ‘I think there’s a lot of frustration and a lot of anger, and I’d been sort of anticipating that before long, people were going to start demonstrating it in various ways.’…
“Sen. Bob Casey (D., Penn.) went a step further, telling NRO that the message from the rowdy rallies echoes the concerns of Pennsylvanians. ‘They’re a substantial demonstration of real frustration and anxiety that people feel across the country, and I think it’s consistent with a lot of what I hear back in Pennsylvania, especially when we were more on the ground in August, when people said to me two things: Do something about jobs and work to get something done.’”
“The spreading protests against Wall Street show that the American people are angry about worsening economic disparities, Vice President Joe Biden said on Thursday.
“‘Let’s be honest with each other. What is the core of that protest? The core is the bargain has been breached with the American people. The American people do not think the system is fair,’ Biden told the Washington Ideas Forum…
“Biden also said that ‘banks are part of the problem in the economy.’”
“During a press conference Thursday afternoon, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi praised those participating in the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protests. ‘God bless them,’ Pelosi said, ‘for their spontaneity. It’s independent … it’s young, it’s spontaneous, and it’s focused. And it’s going to be effective.’
“‘The message of the protesters is a message for the establishment everyplace,’ said the House Democrats’ leader. ‘No longer will the recklessness of some on Wall Street cause massive joblessness on Main Street.’…
“When the Tea Party movement emerged in 2009, then-Speaker of the House Pelosi called them ‘astroturf’ and ‘un-American’ people who were “carrying swastikas.’”
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Maybe they once had a bit part as a marine in a movie.
Mini-14 on October 7, 2011 at 12:39 AM
Not a clue. Thanks again for the recommendation. Maybe I would have stayed awake in history class if people told me the stories like some of these authors.
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 12:47 AM
I guess the Dems hope to co-opt this ‘movement’ and channel the youthful energy and enthusiasm it is generating for their GOTV effort.
Thing is, all of this ‘energy’ is difficult to direct and focus, and just how closely does Democratic Party leadership really want to be identified with this, anyway? What if this particular piece of street theater takes a violent turn and we start seeing lawlessness on par with the London riots? Another thing: anarchists and communists are strange bedfellows for a major American political party. Surely there are still traditional Truman and JFK Democrats out there. How is this going to play with them?
troyriser_gopftw on October 7, 2011 at 12:47 AM
That’s funny. I just realized that both Eckert and Larson have written books about the same serial killer. Eckert’s is called The Scarlet Mansion and Larson’s is The Devil in the White City.
cynccook on October 7, 2011 at 12:48 AM
From Fox News:
He continues to demonstrate he is beneath the office, a real divider. A little less than 16 months and this disgraceful stain on America will be removed.
churchill995 on October 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM
Tea Partiers had to get all the ‘i’s’ dotted and ‘t’s’ crossed on permits. I wonder how these groups get away with squatting indefinitely on the streets.
HellCat on October 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM
i looked at that VeteransToday website…that’s some interesting people they have on their editorial page. A guy from ISI, a Ruski by the name of Khrushchev?
yeah, the marines are going to nyc…right.
r keller on October 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM
Thanks for the recommendation. It just went on my Kindle cause it was cheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 12:50 AM
btw, barrycare is rolling along:
the article goes on to tell the story of all the groups that are lobbying for this or that. This is the future. All will be decided on political pull or push.
like barry says…the left has wanted this for 100 years
r keller on October 7, 2011 at 12:54 AM
link:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9Q77JHG0&show_article=1
r keller on October 7, 2011 at 12:55 AM
I think you know the answer ;)
Kataklysmic on October 7, 2011 at 12:55 AM
Yeah this Wall Street protest is the Million Mooch March.
justltl on October 7, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Seriously, I am in awe of the intellect that these OWS protesters show.
NSFW
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 12:58 AM
The Devil and the White City is one of greatest books ever written especially for all of us here in Chicago and know the exact locations of everything Larson is telling us. It’s really three stories all interwoven into one, the building of the 1896 Worlds Fair, the first documented serial killer, H.H.Holms and the assassination of the mayor of Chicago.
I’ve read everything he’s written including In the Garden of Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler’s Berlin right before I got to Berlin in May. What a story.
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 12:59 AM
I want to see pictures of how well these 99% clean up after themselves. Or are they ever going to leave?
Cindy Munford on October 7, 2011 at 1:00 AM
Having that background must have made your trip all the more interesting. It’s all so surreal.
cynccook on October 7, 2011 at 1:03 AM
Well, off to bed! Goodnight all.
cynccook on October 7, 2011 at 1:04 AM
One of my favorite books ever. Great for someone involved in architecture and history.
I also loved “Isaac’s Strom”, his book before The Devil and the White City.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:06 AM
Strom, storm….whatever it takes….
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:06 AM
9 US Sheriffs Announce Press Conference to Call for Holder’s Resignation (Video) http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/9-us-sheriffs-announce-press-conference-to-call-for-holders-resignation-video/ via @gatewaypundit
andy85719 on October 7, 2011 at 1:07 AM
Nice!
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:08 AM
The Afghan Whigs | Debonair/What Jail is Like (Live, 1994)
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:12 AM
I bought that book because of the serial killer but ended up loving it for the story of Daniel Burnham and the architecture. I read Issac’s Storm after I finished Devil and the White City, it was outstanding and it makes me want to move to Galveston.
And since you’re an architect, you will love this one if you haven’t already read it.
Death in a Prairie House: Frank Lloyd Wright and the Taliesin Murders
I have it in hardcover and can send it to you if you haven’t read it.
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 1:15 AM
The Devil and the White City is one of greatest books ever written especially for all of us here in Chicago and know the exact locations of everything Larson is telling us. It’s really three stories all interwoven into one, the building of the 1896 Worlds Fair, the first documented serial killer, H.H.Holms and the assassination of the mayor of Chicago.
I’ve read everything he’s written including In the Garden of Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler’s Berlin right before I got to Berlin in May. What a story.
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 12:59 AM
If you haven’t read ‘Sin In The Second City’ by Karen Abbot…I recommend you do. Her writing rates up there with Larson’s.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 7, 2011 at 1:20 AM
Screaming Trees | Nearly Lost You
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:23 AM
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:06 AM
In june We spent a short time In Galveston and I saw some of the streets mentioned in ‘Issac’s Storm’. Btw: According to some of the ‘Islanders’(I didn’t meet any. Read it elsewhere) parts of the book were creations of Larson’s mind.
I’ll get another book on the subject to see how the books match up.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 7, 2011 at 1:24 AM
I have never heard it, but that is such a tragic and sad story that not many people know about.
Thank you for the offer. I don’t read since 2007; about the time my vision became horrible.
I don’t have insurance, so not sure when I will get some glasses so I can read again.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:25 AM
I should have written: I have never read it.
I have heard the story though.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:26 AM
Not a surprise. I am sure he took a great artist’s license with it. It is such a great read. I felt like I was there. Just like I felt like I was in Chicago with The Devil and The White City.
It was also interesting to read about the Ferris Wheel.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:28 AM
One of my other favorite modern authors is Wally Lamb. I read “She’s Come Undone” and “I Know This Much”. Great books. I also like Alice Hoffman.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:31 AM
This is going to sound like a crazy question but have you tried the glasses in the drug stores?
Cindy Munford on October 7, 2011 at 1:33 AM
Recall what Reagan did to the Berkeley fools. There are no real leaders, no real men left.
Obama is behind all this. It’s a way to change the subject from what an inept malicious and destructive jerk he is.
Schadenfreude on October 7, 2011 at 1:33 AM
I had never heard the story before, and after living in a neighborhood with so many Frank Lloyd Wright and Walter Burley Griffin houses, I have no idea how I’d never heard about it. I just tripped across the book one day on Amazon or the New York Times Best Seller List.
You can always get a cheap pair of “readers” at WalMart, they work like a charm and are identical to what you get from the eye doc.
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 1:33 AM
That’s what I just said Cindy. I bet I have a half dozen pair of those things laying around that I can’t use anymore.
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 1:37 AM
Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns | Mother Love Bone
When lead singer Andrew Wood died in the early nineties, Eddie Vedder replaced him and the band became Pearl Jam.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:38 AM
I have tried several, but they give me migraines. Not sure why.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:39 AM
It was also interesting to read about the Ferris Wheel.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:28 AM
The Ferris Wheel @ Navy Pier is supposedly the same size as the original.
Many buildings from the Columbia Exposition still stand.
I wouldn’t want to moved back-but we’ve been in TX almost 6 months.
Ah Chicago-at times I miss you with a passion.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 7, 2011 at 1:48 AM
I’m going to come down there to Texas and drag your butt to a good opthamologist. Do you want to end up like me?
Now you just sit down and think about it young man and I’ll get back to you tomorrow.
Knucklehead on October 7, 2011 at 1:48 AM
Ides of March/LA Goodbye
annoyinglittletwerp on October 7, 2011 at 1:50 AM
Soundgarden | Limo Wreck
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:53 AM
Haha, okay, you have convinced me. I will set an appointment and pay in installments.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:54 AM
No familiar, but I definitely like it. BeBe, my Great Dane, does not. But it will grow on her.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:55 AM
I was standing on the north-bound Howard Street platform waiting for the Brown Line to Evanston the fall of 2008…singing along with this…with tears in my eyes.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 7, 2011 at 1:59 AM
No familiar, but I definitely like it. BeBe, my Great Dane, does not. But it will grow on her.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 1:55 AM
I’m missing Chicago something awful right now.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 7, 2011 at 2:00 AM
I love Eddie Vedder’s voice, his politics make me despise him. Call it a love/hate relationship. I finally saw Pearl Jam live in 2001 and he made a huge point about how bad Bush was and the show was in Dallas. I lose respect for these artists when they open their mouths for anything other than singing. He has talent, but if he would just shut up about politics, it would make it much easier on the fans who love the music.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 2:04 AM
It is a special place. The government is poisonous, but the archite.cture and culture are first rate
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 2:05 AM
The swan song.
The Gits – Second Skin (Live)
Mia Zapata, the female lead singer of the band, was brutally raped and murdered in July of 1993 on the streets of Seattle. The case remained unsolved for 15 years until saved DNA finally linked her murder to an ILLEGAL ALIEN (Cuban). Justice has been served, albeit, delayed.
My theme for tonight was the Seattle Sound.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM
To support the status quo vis a vis bailouts and their relation to populist politics would amount to putting all the able bodied men on lifeboats and leaving women and children to drown. The status quo at the moment is asking the weakest of Americans to sacrifice first, without having asked the able bodied men of the economy – the wealthiest, the strongest among us – to sacrifice at all. If this ship really is sinking, you put women and children on the lifeboats first, you ask those with the most means to sacrifice, before you ask the weakest. I fully accept the notion that even the weakest among us will have to sacrifice for the sake of rebalancing our finances, but not until you’ve first asked the most able among us to do their part as well.
ernesto on October 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 2:04 AM
My friend Jen and I were at a YR pub crawl in Wrigleyville that day in 2008. I was getting a major buzz off of one Pina Colada-doesn’t take much with me-when we heard that the Cubbies had clinched a play-off spot. Everyone poured out of everywhere and headed over to the Park. People were dancing,screaming, singing, honking horns-so me and Jen joined in. Though we knew that our celebration was most likely going to end in grief-it’s the Cubs-for that brief moment we were part of something wonderful and awesome.
annoyinglittletwerp on October 7, 2011 at 2:13 AM
And those, my dear ‘twerp, are the moments worth living for.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2011 at 2:14 AM
Back to the QOTD topic, I don’t believe for one hot minute that any of these anti wall street protests are organically grown.
karenhasfreedom on October 7, 2011 at 2:53 AM
Remember the “bailouts” of big banks and insurance companies (including those who didn’t want the funds but were pressured by the government to accept them) were paid back. It was a temporary measure to cover a capitalization crisis which was 100% created by federal stupidity.
The bailout money which disappeared was that sent to states and a good bit of the auto bailout money. It had nothing to do with Wall Street or Big Bank.
Like most leftist ideology, this protest, insofar as it is about anything at all in particular, is built on a pack of lies.
Adjoran on October 7, 2011 at 4:04 AM
In 2008 these exact same people were working for Obama, now they walk the streets wailing and gnashing teeth. 2012 is going to be a GOP landslide.
rob verdi on October 7, 2011 at 6:13 AM
ernesto,
How many times must you read about the share of taxes the rich pay?
Why does it have to be about sacrifice, can’t it be about personal improvement through profit?
If not for student loans, where money is lend at ridiculous rates with lenient terms to 18 year olds who can’t get a car loan, would there even be an “occupy wall street”?
rob verdi on October 7, 2011 at 6:18 AM
My take.
kingsjester on October 7, 2011 at 6:45 AM
It’s 5:47 am Central time, I getting ready for work and humming a little tune to myself, happier than usual.
The Yankees are out of the playoffs, early.
Fuc* the Yankees.
Jaibones on October 7, 2011 at 6:48 AM
Liberals belittle the brilliance of the Founding Fathers (sorry, is that sexist?) yet Jefferson, Franklin, Madison,etc have hundreds of famous quotes predicting our demise through public largess.
Bevan on October 7, 2011 at 6:50 AM
Moses once said, pick up your shovel, pack up your ass, mount your camel, I’ll lead you to the promised land.
Obama says, throw down your shovel, sit on your ass, light up a camel, this is the promised land.
Bevan on October 7, 2011 at 6:53 AM
Remember in a deal in which the schools ask for more money and the banks lend it to students, who is to blame for the high cost of education?
A) The schools for CHARGING IT?
B) The students wanting the money to PAY FOR IT?
C) The banks for LENDING IT?
These OWS people blame C, put no responsibility on B and can’t think that those actually doing A who are the originators of the cost are to blame.
Now put in homes and who is to blame?
A) Those asking for more money than a home is worth?
B) Those wanting to pay those high amounts?
C) The banks for lending the money?
Again if you are an OWS’r you blame C, put no responsibility on B, and never, ever blame those asking for unrealistically high prices A.
In each case the root cause of the ‘problem’?
Government regulation that sets the playing field for giving loans. In the first part are federally backed loans that MUST be paid back to the federal government and that you can’t get around paying back.
In the second it is the government determining the risk, setting regulations as to who MUST be able to get loans for FAIRNESS which allows such things as NINJA loans to meet pre-set quotas by the regulators.
Now when you put the government as the D option in both, who is to blame?
A) Those asking for extraordinarily high amounts that they know YOU CAN GET via regulation?
B) Those seeking such high amounts and not questioning the ACTUAL VALUE of what they are getting and not blinking at the COST being asked?
C) Those providing the money as intermediaries for the government regulatory system because, to do business, they have NO OTHER OPTION in those realms?
D) The government for rigging the system to allow A to put B into debt via C the regulated intermediary?
The banks are not the villains, here, although they do share some blame in setting up D, it is the regulatory system, itself, that is swayed by such input. When A and C collude with D, it is B that is shafted.
The answer to what to do is to get D out of the equation so that they do NOT write exacting ‘fair’ regulations and only put out statutes against misrepresenting value and cost from both A and C so that B can make a decision based on actual facts, not promises of ‘fairness’ in a system being rigged against them.
These Trustafarians, the members of the Doucheoise, are HELPING those in the A category to villify the C category so that they can get MORE REGULATIONS THAT DON’T WORK AND MAKE THINGS WORSE from the D category. They are not playing class warfare but committing economic suicide on a personal basis. If they meant what they said they would join the Tea Parties and work to get the government out of the system so that there is less to no government save for cases of fraud that need be ruled upon. As it is they are supporting the existing fraud-backed structure and want nothing to do with removing it.
Yes Rome wasn’t built in a day.
It was, however, sacked in 3.
You are seeing the sackers, not the builders, wanting their bite and not expecting the collapse to effect them one little, tiny, bit. If they get what they want they have a greatly limited lifespan because of what they get, that will shorten down decades to years, months, weeks or even days.
If you aren’t prepared for that disaster NOW then you will be joining them.
Your job is to survive, help and educate. And all three MUST be done AT THE SAME TIME. And to those who don’t listen, who scream and rage, you must turn away FROM to help those that WILL listen to reason. That is your duty as a citizen to your fellow citizens. Those that aren’t listening, who are screaming, who are marching… they are the walking dead if they get their way. You can save them but only if you do the right things as a citizen, now. It all depends on YOU being civilized each and every single day of your life no matter HOW BAD things get, all the way to your last breath on this earth. Only your fear will stop you…
ajacksonian on October 7, 2011 at 6:56 AM
1) Wonder how long before we have a night of broken glass and looting.
2) How quickly will the D’s be able to distance themselves once it happens?
Larr on October 7, 2011 at 6:56 AM
good questions…
cmsinaz on October 7, 2011 at 7:02 AM
i really despise the democrats…truly
cmsinaz on October 7, 2011 at 7:03 AM
I wonder how big a deal this is really. But I think it does show how difficult it will be to reform taxes and do the kinds of things reformers want to do…the only tax reform these people want to see is the evil rich paying more.
Terrye on October 7, 2011 at 7:08 AM
Doesn’t anyone use hyphens anymore?
coopt? really?
it’s co-opt
reelection=re-election
small things I know but ….
darwin-t on October 7, 2011 at 8:29 AM
To even try and compare the two is like comparing apples to plums, not even close.
“the grunge party” are there to do one thing and thats fight. Look at how many have been arrested already!
These people make me sad:(
mmcnamer1 on October 7, 2011 at 9:01 AM
I wonder why they don’t sell glass that help with distance? That’s always been my problem.
Cindy Munford on October 7, 2011 at 9:08 AM
Based purely on the fact that I’ve worn glasses since seventh grade (I think that practically makes me a doctor) I’m guessing astigmatism. I have a bit of that also. Yep, you need to beak down & go in. In Virginia Beach we have this place that does the eye exam & two pair of glasses for $69.95.
Cindy Munford on October 7, 2011 at 9:13 AM
looks like the antiwar protesters found a new cause after being on vacation for a few years?
maineconservative on October 7, 2011 at 9:29 AM
The Moore video was weird and creepy…
RedSoxNation on October 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM
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