Joe Biden: Van Jones, who?

posted at 4:05 pm on October 4, 2011 by Tina Korbe

He worked as Barack Obama’s green energy czar and now he’s linked to the “Occupy Wall Street” protests, praising the movement as one “to save the middle class” and calling for an “October Offensive” or “American Autumn” — but Van Jones is still a virtual unknown to Vice President Joe Biden.

The poor gaffe-prone guy. This morning in an interview with Jack Harris of 970 WFLA in Florida, Biden referred to “Van Jones … whoever he is.” When the host pointed out Jones used to work in the administration, the veep, apparently still unabashed, responded, “Oh is that — all right.” Don’t miss the co-host’s chuckle at about 0:52.

And, just to be clear, Biden has absolutely no excuse for his ignorance. The Blaze reports:

For the record, according to the White House web site, Vice President Biden and Van Jones have not only worked in the same administration, in the same building, but hey traveled the country together. In May of 2009, they were in Denver. …

The Daily Kos also reported that  Joe Biden, Van Jones, and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis all spoke in Denver while announcing an additional $4 billion in stimulus funding for public housing.

(For the record, I first learned of Van Jones from a glowing portrait of the czar in Oprah’s magazine, O. When I later learned a little more about what the man advocates, the episode served as a reminder to diversify and validate sources because everybody has an angle on everything.)

But while Biden’s laughable forgetfulness certainly was the headline in his remarks, his comments on the Tea Party were notable for an entirely different reason: They were remarkably civil, a very far cry from the sentiments he expressed at the end of the debt ceiling debate when he allegedly called Tea Partiers in Congress “terrorists.”

“I don’t disrespect the Tea Party,” Biden said this morning. “I think the Tea Party and the Van Jones folks are different hats of the same concern. There’s an overwhelming frustration. There’s a great frustration here in America that the two parties haven’t been able to get very much moving. We have been in this period where there’s just nothing but fighting. So, you have, on the one hand, Van Jones’ guys — whoever he is — the point is, talking about the excesses of Wall Street and there’s some truth in what he says and there’s truth in what the Tea Party says.”

Now, I object to Biden’s first sentence; I’d say he frequently does disrespect the Tea Party. But I appreciate that he’s acknowledging the truth in the Tea Party message. Could it be that, in an effort to legitimize the “Occupy Wall Street” movement, some on the left will have to at last admit the Tea Party grew out of honest frustration with out-of-control spending and a government so unresponsive to the will of the people as to cram a massively unpopular health care overhaul through Congress?

In the meantime, allow me to suggest the Tea Party should not lend its credibility to the anti-capitalism rebellion. Van Jones claims the Wall Street occupation is an answer to the Tea Party, but at no Tea Party rally ever have 700 protesters been arrested. At no Tea Party rally ever has the suggestion been made to bring back the guillotine. Tea Partiers receive the dirt — labels of “racists,” “terrorists,” “tyrants,” “the real enemy” — but they very rarely dish it. The movements might be similar in that they give voice and visualization to the dissatisfaction of a nation in economic turmoil, but the methods and solutions of the two could not be more disparate.


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Politico reports that Biden vetted Van Jones in a special vetting process.

faraway on October 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Who does he think he is? Charlie Gibson?

lorien1973 on October 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM

“We agreed with Lenin’s analysis of the state and the party,” read STORM’s manifesto. “And we found inspiration in the revolutionary strategies developed by Third World revolutionaries like Mao Zedong and Amilcar Cabral.”

I’m still not convinced he’s a communist-communist.

/Biden

mankai on October 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM

I first learned of Van Jones from a glowing portrait of the czar in Oprah’s magazine, O.

Wait, you just admitted you read O? Women.

lorien1973 on October 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Joe Biden just thinks all those “articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guys” look the same.

portlandon on October 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM

lorien1973 on October 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Allahpundit wrote this.

Point stands.

Touche.

;)

lorien1973 on October 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Biden thinks Van Jones is the guy who did Hot For Teacher.

Mark1971 on October 4, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Sign VP Biden up for a subscription to Hot Air Express STAT!

VP Biden clearly needs better sources of information than he currently uses.

wren on October 4, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Van Stalin has already ingratiated himself into the “Occupation!” which is no surprise, the crud is like Jesse Jackson, always looking for an angle to enrich himself while misleading a herd of dupes.

And yah the “Occupation!” is trying to entice the Tea Party to join them in what they call a general anti-government action. Why, because the collection of douchebags, whiners, and so-called revolutionaries are just smart enough to know they need legitimacy.

Bishop on October 4, 2011 at 4:13 PM

lorien1973 on October 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM

It does sound like AP. Has anyone ever saw Tina and AP at the same time?

infidel on October 4, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Obviously, Sheriff Joe is simply the token “Foreign Policy Wonk” needed to get O elected, and is not part of the inner-inner circle that includes Jones, Jarrett, Rev. Wright, William Ayers, etc. So, what’re your plans for after 2012, Joe?

VastRightWingConspirator on October 4, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Your elected Joe Biden !

http://youtu.be/vm53CzqgWow

William Amos on October 4, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Joe Biden: Van Jones, who?

Heard this on GB today…LOL.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 4, 2011 at 4:16 PM

I think it is good strategy for Biden to pretend he has no idea who Van Jones is. Maybe he should try that same strategy when people ask him about Holder too.

Vashta.Nerada on October 4, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Vice President Biden, Van Jones is that “articulate, bright and clean, nice-looking black guy,”

“I mean, that’s a storybook, MAN!

Opposite Day on October 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Isn’t Van Jones a National Socialist?

Chip on October 4, 2011 at 4:19 PM

lorien1973 on October 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM

That was my reaction too.
There were women seeking counselling when Oprah had her last show.
What is it about that woman that turns otherwise normal women into blithering morons?

angryed on October 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Too bad he didn’t watch Glenn Beck. He would know all about Van Jones.

Lily on October 4, 2011 at 4:21 PM

No, Joe.

Van Jones is a Communist bent on bringing down America through financial and social collapse and the Tea Partyers are free market capitalists who believe in Constitutionally limited government. Huge difference.

Anyone else hear Beck this morning?

Fallon on October 4, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Clueless Joe… Continuing to prove he was picked to make BHO look like a genius…

Khun Joe on October 4, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Biden:

“…I think the Tea Party and the Van Jones folks are different hats of the same concern…”

The former wants to save the nation and the latter wants to destroy it in Cloward-Pivenesque fashion. Not the same concern. At all.

Can we now dispense with the likeable gaffe-machine rhetoric? The guy is a liar. We cover up his dishonesty with the Joe-bein’-Joe shtick and Biden cleverly exploits it.

AnonymousDrivel on October 4, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Biden is awesome some times. He really really is.

I am really starting to believe he is suffering from the early stages of dimentia.

Mr. Joe on October 4, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Maybe Van Jones was not clean and articulate enough for Biden to remember.

malclave on October 4, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Joe Biden: Plausible Deniability!

The old coot just doesn’t remember!

Mr. Joe on October 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM

BTW, Chris Christie who?

Everyone has already forgotten about him, and it has only been 3 hours.

faraway on October 4, 2011 at 4:37 PM

I think it is good strategy for Biden to pretend he has no idea who Van Jones is. Maybe he should try that same strategy when people ask him about Holder too.

Vashta.Nerada on October 4, 2011 at 4:17 PM

… and Jarrett… and Napolitano… and Obama… and…

Midas on October 4, 2011 at 4:40 PM

I am really starting to believe he is suffering from the early stages of dimentia.

Mr. Joe on October 4, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Those ‘early stages’ left the station long ago…

Midas on October 4, 2011 at 4:41 PM

But I appreciate that he’s acknowledging the truth in the Tea Party message

Totally disingenuous! He respects it squat…doesn’t understand it…he is a fool and foolish to impart any reasonable motives.

winston on October 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM

It does sound like AP. Has anyone ever saw Tina and AP at the same time?

infidel on October 4, 2011 at 4:14 PM

But we have pictures of Tina.

AP is probably just a creepy robot with excess libido.

PrettyD_Vicious on October 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM

But while Biden’s laughable forgetfulness…

That had nothing to do with forgetfulness. It was more like a lie, a wilful misrepresentation, so lame as to be laughable.

petefrt on October 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM

I have to believe that Obama picked Joe, because he knew no one would want to assassinate him with Joe in the #2 spot, lol.

jeffn21 on October 4, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Biden was pretending to respect the Tea Party Movement only so he could use it to justify Van Jones’ American Autumn. Claiming to respect the TPM was no more than a rhetorical trick and another wilful misrepresentation.

petefrt on October 4, 2011 at 4:47 PM

In the meantime, allow me to suggest the Tea Party should not lend its credibility to the anti-capitalism rebellion.

I’ve been looking at the Occupy Pittsburgh Facebook page. Guess what freedom lovers are aiding an anti-capitalist rebellion? The Ron Paul nuts. They have even contributed some antisemitism.

thuja on October 4, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Separated at birth?

One got the hair!

It is the ONLY way you can tell them apart… both are clean and articulate.

ajacksonian on October 4, 2011 at 4:59 PM

n we now dispense with the likeable gaffe-machine rhetoric? The guy is a liar. We cover up his dishonesty with the Joe-bein’-Joe shtick and Biden cleverly exploits it.

AnonymousDrivel on October 4, 2011 at 4:26 PM

You are correct, he is a liar first and foremost. He is trying to make it look like Van Jones was never part of the administration by acting like he doesn’t know who he is.

Brat on October 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM

BTW, Chris Christie who?

Everyone has already forgotten about him, and it has only been 3 hours.

faraway on October 4, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Not everyone… Oh. Nevermind.

Fallon on October 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Who does he think he is? Charlie Gibson?

lorien1973 on October 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Gibson: “Joe Biden? Never heard of him.”

AZCoyote on October 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Biden, Obama, the Democrats, all, are trying so hard to come up with a plan to save their leaking, rotten boat. They’re trying so hard, sometimes they even work an extra hour in their minds.

Lourdes on October 4, 2011 at 5:04 PM

If I was part of the administration that appointed the feckless van jones, I would want to forget as well. Heck, I bet Obama has already forgotten he appointed him as well, or would like to.

Lonetown on October 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM

I’ve known Van Jones since the 70’s, except then he was known as Anthony. I know his twin sister, too. It’s still a bit surreal to realize that the bright nerdy boy I knew is now the trouble-making Marxist loon at the center of national controversy. I have tried to determine what happened to him. I’ve talked to any number of people from our hometown about him, but so far I have yet to find anyone, including blacks, who knew him as a radical.

His parents were among a small group of elite blacks in our town. During that era Southern towns were not overrun with educated blacks, so they stood out. He had a typical middle-class American childhood. But unlike most blacks, he had both his mother and his father, who was ex-military and a respected school principal. And while I know there was some racism, since he was admitted to Yale and eventually worked in the Obama administration, his skin tone has obviously not been much of an impediment.

flyfisher on October 4, 2011 at 5:27 PM

That was my reaction too.
There were women seeking counselling when Oprah had her last show.
What is it about that woman that turns otherwise normal women into blithering morons?

angryed on October 4, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Who says they were “otherwise normal women”? Maybe they were all blithering morons long before Oprah came on the scene. She just legitimized their behavior.

Oprah. Yuk.

GrannyDee on October 4, 2011 at 5:28 PM

“I don’t disrespect the Tea Party,” Biden said this morning. “I think the Tea Party and the Van Jones folks are different hats of the same concern

BiteMe’s hat is tall and conical.

MJBrutus on October 4, 2011 at 5:29 PM

“I don’t disrespect the Tea Party,” Biden said this morning. “I think the Tea Party and the Van Jones folks are different hats of the same concern

How can he say that and yet say he doesn’t really know anything about Jones at the same time? Oh, that’s right he is a liberal democrat so he can play ignorant and get away with it (and for Biden playing ignorant is easy)

SgtRed on October 4, 2011 at 5:52 PM

No problem. By next summer, Joey will be saying “Barack, who?”

GarandFan on October 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Here I thought Oprah was just stupid, and had a crush on Obutthead. Now it turns out her rag did a complementary piece on an admitted, and avowed communist?

Well Oprah…I gave up on you , years ago. Now this, it’s incentive to stay away from your sorry arse, for all time!!!

capejasmine on October 4, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Look! Over there! It’s a rock…

kringeesmom on October 4, 2011 at 7:23 PM

AP is probably just a creepy robot with excess libido.

PrettyD_Vicious on October 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM

I figured he was one of the lolcats.

malclave on October 4, 2011 at 7:48 PM

“Obama? The name sounds familiar. Can you give me some more info?”

patch on October 5, 2011 at 11:15 AM