Poll: Majority of Americans don’t know what “GOP” stands for
posted at 6:25 pm on October 3, 2011 by Tina Korbe
It’s a little hard to take this 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll seriously, given that “Grumpy Old People” was one of the multiple choice options and some folks surely checked that box just to make a political statement. Nevertheless, it’s interesting.
Just forty-five percent of Americans correctly identified “GOP” as an acronym for “Grand Old Party,” while 35 percent said it stands for “Government of the People.” Seven percent said it equates to “Grumpy Old People,” three percent chose “God’s Own Party” and another nine percent admitted to not having a clue.
Most tellingly, just 51 percent of self-identified Republicans knew the meaning of the moniker. Vanity Fair mocks this and Think Progress trumpets it, presumably as evidence that Republicans aren’t as “plugged in” as they ought to be. Honestly, that was my first reaction, too. But, on second thought, I can’t say I’m all that disappointed to learn a sizable percentage of both GOPers themselves and the American people at large think the Republican Party so promotes limited government as to assume the party’s abbreviation stands for “Government of the People.” Come to think of it, I’d be pretty happy if “GOP” did stand for that. (And given that the phrase “government of the people” came from a speech delivered by Abraham Lincoln — whom, you’ll recall, the president wrongly said was the founder of the Republican Party — it wasn’t an unreasonable guess.)
The poll was notable for another reason, too: It highlighted that partisanship extends well beyond policy preferences. Vanity Fair summarizes:
[T]his month several issues appeared to break along party lines even more than is typical.
For instance: Ford and Disney easily led the pack of American brands we were all proudest of—Ford on the strength of Republican opinion, Disney on Democratic. Asked which was the most important presidential character trait, Democrats valued intelligence above all else while Republicans chose character.
That’s no surprise, really: I’ve seen TV show breakdowns between Democrats and Republicans, sports breakdowns between Ds and Rs, and I’d imagine someone somewhere has demonstrated the clothing breakdown between the two parties. You watch Mad Men with giddy devotion, follow the NBA with acute interest and, oh, I don’t know, eschew fur coats for lettuce leaves? I’d guess you’re a D. You switch to ABC the second “Dancing with the Stars” starts Monday night, spend Saturdays watching college football (and Sundays watching golf) and, hmm, just guessing here, own a couple pairs of cowboy boots? I’d say you’re an R. Are these stereotypes? You bet, but they also reveal that the partisan divide has its roots in culture (doesn’t everything?). They’re also a pleasant reminder to me to tune into a new TV show every once in a while, try a new sport or shop in a different store just to freshen my perspective every so often. Mostly, TV, sports and clothes aren’t questions of right v. wrong or effective v. ineffective (although they can be), so why not find common ground in those areas?
But, when it comes to the question of the most important presidential characteristic, I’m solidly in the character camp — and hope I always will be. To put it simplistically, “Smart is different than good.” For that matter, so is nice (h/t Stephen Sondheim). Character alone ensures intelligence, charisma or any other positive trait will be used in the service of the truth and the good.
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Uh, it’s called LYING.
Pork-Chop on April 24, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Hillary lied. Four Americans died.
steebo77 on April 24, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Aw, c’mon, Darrell, you can use the “P” word….
Maybe the “L” word, while you are at it.
Why are you being so coy?
“Wrong?”
C’mon, grow a pair…she perjured herself under oath. She lied.
Now, what are you gonna do about it?
Or is she gonna be given the Eric Holder treatment.
As in, nothing?
coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Issa: Clinton “was just wrong” in her testimony on Benghazi
What difference, at this point, does it make? Clinton is out of government. For the moment.
Paul-Cincy on April 24, 2013 at 3:26 PM
And what will Issa do? Fast and Furious is still there.
National Divorce.
nobar on April 24, 2013 at 3:27 PM
In her defense, maybe Killary was blackout-drunk when she personally acknowledged receipt of Amb. Stevens’ request for additional protection or when she personally signed off on reduced security levels.
steebo77 on April 24, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Just wrong, heh?
‘Tis only human to err.
No hard feelings.
At some point, you just have to say “What difference does it make”.
Don’t you have more pressing and relevant work you can be doing Mr. Issa?
hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Perjury, schmerjury.
steebo77 on April 24, 2013 at 3:28 PM
+100
dentarthurdent on April 24, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Why is it so hard to use the word “lie” in DC? If you’re not sure someone is lying, fine. Don’t make the accusation. But when someone deliberately states something that isn’t true(and does it while under oath, no less), where I come from that’s called TELLING A LIE!!!
Doughboy on April 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM
you’re twisting it to somehow make it seem four americans died as a result of hillarys actions
nonpartisan on April 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM
Dear hill lied her more than ample hind end off to cya! Now Issa, what are YOU gonna do about it? Probably zero as has been done with F&F?
L
letget on April 24, 2013 at 3:31 PM
I need a willing suspension of disbelief to believe him !
burrata on April 24, 2013 at 3:31 PM
I still can’t figure out why everyone gives this fat, know-nothing *itch a pass everytime she F’s up, and she F’s up often.
Thomas More on April 24, 2013 at 3:32 PM
They did. It just so happens that her lies came after their deaths.
steebo77 on April 24, 2013 at 3:33 PM
The secretary of state was just wrong. She said she did not participate in this, and yet only a few months before the attack, she outright denied security in her signature in a cable in April, 2012.
Four Americans died as a direct result of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s actions.
Paul-Cincy on April 24, 2013 at 3:34 PM
reread that sentence and see how little (read: zero) sense it makes
nonpartisan on April 24, 2013 at 3:34 PM
It’s called perjury. Time to get some B((S and hold her to account.
aniptofar on April 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Consulate: “we need more security”
Clinton: “No, we’re trying to project a politically-sensitive air of normalcy regardless of the true conditions on the ground”
4 months later
CIA: “Benghazi consulate under attack, Ambassador, 3 others dead”
Clinton: “Somebody better find me a way out of this….”
BobMbx on April 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM
So, she’s lying just to keep up with Bill or something..?
affenhauer on April 24, 2013 at 3:36 PM
“She Lied”, Joe Wilson
trs on April 24, 2013 at 3:36 PM
Never let the facts get in the way of a lie. Whats wrong with you people, this is President Elect Hillary Clinton (2016). Don’t you know her husband is Ex-President Clinton? Do I really need to add a sarc tag.
DDay on April 24, 2013 at 3:36 PM
Fine, then. I’ll rephrase:
Four Americans died (as a result of Hillary’s inept and/or politically-motivated decision-making). Hillary lied (to cover her own ass).
steebo77 on April 24, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Perjury.
rbj on April 24, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Lets’ not forget little David Petraeus.
Diana West: “Spontaneous protest, unplanned attack: That was Petraeus’ testimony as CIA director three days after U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in Benghazi, Libya.
Within 24 hours of the attack, however, the White House and top officials at the State Department, the Pentagon and the intelligence agencies knew that no protest, spontaneous or other, had taken place. They knew the U.S. had been hit on the 9/11 anniversary by a planned attack by al-Qaida affiliates. Ruppersberger’s account, then, indicates Petraeus deceived the committee. When committed knowingly, as former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy recently pointed out, such deception is a felony.
This same phony story — that “extreme groups” took advantage of a “spontaneous” protest over a YouTube video to mount an “unplanned” attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi — would be repeated by the Obama White House for two weeks, climaxing in the president’s U.N. address on Sept. 25. There, President Obama cited the video six times and declared to the world body, dominated by the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (an Islamic bloc of 56 nations plus the Palestinian Authority): “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”
Blaming the YouTube video for the violence was, in effect, blaming free speech, which is also OIC policy. Additionally, it denied the reality of the planned jihad attack, which, by extension, denied that al-Qaida-style jihad terrorism still exists at the vanguard of expansionist Islam.
To date, the media haven’t asked President Obama and his top officials, why? Why the administration-wide cover-up? Why didn’t military help get to Battleground Benghazi? Without coming clean, President Obama has been re-elected, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton mentioned as a 2016 presidential candidate, and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice floated as the next secretary of state.
And Petraeus? On Nov. 12, Fox News reported that “congressional leaders,” believing Petraeus lied to them in September, had “already considered charging Petraeus with perjury, but said they planned to withhold judgment until he testified this week.” (Under oath or not, it is a crime to lie to federal officials.) We have heard no such tough talk since.”
And BTW – Diana West: “Even though it appears the former CIA director lied to the House Intelligence Committee on Sept. 14, and may have lied again to the same committee on Nov. 16, he is starting to slip out of the inner ring of Benghazi
cover-up suspects. We are losing sight of his official role in the deception as the media lens ossifies over a tawdry love triangle. For this, he must be thankful. Maybe to ensure the good fortune continues, Petraeus has hired Bob Barnett, the $975-per-hour Washington superlawyer to officials with issues and/or big book deals, to manage what reports call Petraeus’ “transition to civilian life.”
VorDaj on April 24, 2013 at 3:38 PM
You’re twisting it. Four americans died as a result of hillarys inactions
Mimzey on April 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM
She should divorce Bill and marry David Petraeus. They would be the perfect couple.
VorDaj on April 24, 2013 at 3:40 PM
you’re twisting it to somehow make it seem four americans died as a result of hillarys actions
nonpartisan on April 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM
Uh, it was her “inaction” that caused 4 deaths
Liberalism is truely a disease.
Bevan on April 24, 2013 at 3:40 PM
And her actions. The report states that reduced security levels were approved at the “highest levels” of the State Department, “up to and including Secretary Clinton.”
steebo77 on April 24, 2013 at 3:41 PM
So lemme get this straight :
Hussein is a professional politician,
Killery is a professional politician,
Issa is a politician,
the Congress is a group of politicians,
Carney works for a politician,
but
somehow the jihad on 4 Americans who died ( which is one more than that in Boston) and the numerous others who were injured by the actions of Hussein and Killery should not be investigated because that would be …….politics ?
burrata on April 24, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Hillary Clinton is but a poor imitation of David Petraeus.
VorDaj on April 24, 2013 at 3:42 PM
They died because of her inactions.
RickB on April 24, 2013 at 3:43 PM
Who ordered the ‘stand down’…?
Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2013 at 3:43 PM
You are being deliberately obtuse. She committed perjury and Issa’s being coy so as not to offend the PC crowd.
D-fusit on April 24, 2013 at 3:43 PM
You lie!
cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Hey, Hillary, why don’t you write a book on how to lie your way out of every trap. Kind of a tips guide for budding Democrat politicians. You can call it “The Princess.”
MaxMBJ on April 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Last I heard, it was someone at the pentagon. No one owned up to it (par for the course).
nobar on April 24, 2013 at 3:48 PM
Can’t we muster enough intestinal fortitude and courage to stop desecrating truth with euphemistic malarkey and just call a bald-faced liar, a liar anymore?
Why do we insist on behaving even with our language as if the Godless left has us on puppet strings?
Don L on April 24, 2013 at 3:49 PM
A typical morning at the Clinton household:
Bill: Where did I leave my glasses?
Hillary: I don’t know, why don’t you ask Monica?
Bill: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
Hillary: Bill, we’re at home. You don’t need to lie here.
Bill: (Laughing) Oops. It’s reflex.
Hillary: Tell me about it. Just last week I lied to Chelsea about she actually being our ‘love child.’”
Bill: Ha ha ha! Love child! You and me? Please. (Pause) Where did Chelsea comes from?
MaxMBJ on April 24, 2013 at 3:50 PM
Damn, I thought Issa had a Set….
hey Darrell, it’s called LYING.
ToddPA on April 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM
Oh great, another Bengazi hearing. Didn’t we have one before Obama became a 2 term president?
HotAirLib on April 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM
Perjury runs in the Clinton Crime Family.
Color me shocked!!
jukin3 on April 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM
The ghould just line right up for confession.
tom daschle concerned on April 24, 2013 at 3:53 PM
Killery : Well I’ve been saving a pair of blue jeans with a stain on it , for the last 40 years.I’ll have Sandy Buggler take it over to the FBI lab to find out where Chelsea came from
burrata on April 24, 2013 at 3:55 PM
Did she kill them? No. Is the construction backwards? Yes. It should be, “People died, Hillary lied.”
What, at this point, does it matter? She did purposely reduced their chances of survival in an attack to essentially zero. I’d call that the result of her action.
Hillary has Stevens’, Smith’s, Doherty’s and Woods’ blood on her hands. Then she Dreyfus’d some poor nobody of a schmuck to distract from that and cover it up.
Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Maybe we could get Candy Craely to set the record straight.
Deafdog on April 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM
Exactly. “Lets fire the fat chick on the 4th floor. Nobody complains when you fire the fat chick”
BobMbx on April 24, 2013 at 3:58 PM
BHO
Deafdog on April 24, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Of course she lied.
But what will be really interesting as they delve more deeply into this is what ties there are to Obama, and what exactly Obama and Clinton were doing (not doing) while Americans were in a hours-long fire fight, waiting in vain for reinforcements.
I wonder — if they had been told unequivocally that no one was coming to help them, would they have been able to retreat and save their lives?
LASue on April 24, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Who relieved Gen Ham of duty?
jake49 on April 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM
Well, she’s immunized from perjury charges by the Constitution’s ‘Connected People Clause.”
PersonFromPorlock on April 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM
So, Hillary’s testimony was “not optimal?”
Khun Joe on April 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM
o_O
Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM
This is why the Republican Party is dying. The leadership in the House and Senate continue to make excuses for these liberal/progressives lying under oath. This use to be called perjury, if you or I did this they would be on us like a duck on a june bug. The stink from Washington DC is covering the whole country.
savage24 on April 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Actually, she testified after the election. 1/23/2013.
DDay on April 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the modern American voter.
rogerb on April 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM
The true crime is the complicity between dishonest Democratic cover-ups and most of the media.
Unfortunately, the only people who care about
1. the Benghazi cover-up,
2. Obmacare’s impacts vs. the propoganda
3. The disaster of Obmamanomics on the middle class
etc.
are the folks who read right-leaning blogs.
Everything, including the need to be honest, is now political.
Welcome to the 2010′s.
Deafdog on April 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM
They want information from the MOST NON-TRANSPARENT administration, evah!”?
When pigs fly.
Just wait until King Barry gets out his “Executive Privilege” stamp!
GarandFan on April 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Really…?
… I remember it differently.
Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM
I don’t think people want to acknowledge how bad things truly are for the American citizen. This rogue gov’t is setting us up for La Grande Okee-Doke.
tom daschle concerned on April 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM
All right, they caught her in a lie. Lying to a congressional panel under oath. What are they going to do about it?
Yep, just what I thought.
Mirimichi on April 24, 2013 at 4:15 PM
Pretty much…
… To those of us paying attention, it is a little disconcerting to say the least.
Seven Percent Solution on April 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM
Maybe I can settle this bumper sticker talk:
Hillary denied, Americans died, Hillary lied.
DaBeesKnees on April 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Oh great, another Bengazi hearing. Didn’t we have one before Obama became a 2 term president?
[HotAirLib on April 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM]
Hey, a frentic Nixon supporter speaks.
You’re late, but thanks for your input, nitwit.
Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 4:21 PM
I can feel a bout with vertigo coming on.
-Hillary
jdpaz on April 24, 2013 at 4:24 PM
Time to just move on. If Issa hasn’t made anything of this yet (or for that matter, Fast ‘n Furious), he isn’t going to. I think they probably just let him drop a hint now and then to keep alive the fragile appearance that “something is being done”. “Appearance”, and nothing more. Boehner and his guys probably don’t want this stuff public any more than Killary and Barky do. It’s all just kabuki.
bofh on April 24, 2013 at 4:27 PM
Yup.The GOP has been reduced to a party that only advocates for the 1%ers and fringe conservatives. Even if Hillary was caught lying, they don’t have any political capital to do anything about it.
HotAirLib on April 24, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Why would you believe that the death toll is only four?
slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 4:31 PM
These types of afflictions can happen during hard landings, some may even say crashes.
DDay on April 24, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Eric Holder is going to get right on that.
slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM
And you feel good about this?
DDay on April 24, 2013 at 4:34 PM
Oh so close and yet so very wrong. The GOP advocates for one thing and one master alone: Itself. Their base be damned. They will end up like the Whigs in 10 years (sooner if amnesty passes).
Also they have the capital, but they lack testicular fortitude.
But don’t worry. We will help you bury the stupid party.
nobar on April 24, 2013 at 4:40 PM
FTFA
*Accuracy
VegasRick on April 24, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Good luck getting those documents.
How’s the F&F document thing going, Issa?
The Rogue Tomato on April 24, 2013 at 4:52 PM
You forgot the /sarc tag on this one bub. Yeah it’s quite rightly implied that her actions caused it, but twisting, no. Do you understand (I know it’s difficult for you) that by Hillary refusing beefed up security in a war zone that four Americans actually did die? Or do you still insist it was an uncontrollable mob fired up by an internet video?
NOMOBO on April 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM
HAL, keep living in your delusional world. I’m a Republican, not a 1%’er. And even though I detest you moronic liberal progressives (including your Boy King), I am joined by almost 50% of my fellow Americans–hardly a fringe group.
And as far as political capital is concerned, maybe Obutthead will have enough to fight his impeachment battle when the GOP wins the Senate in 2014. (Although that might be a dream, it is not nearly as delusional as most of what you say)
NOMOBO on April 24, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Help me out here were Scooter Libby and Martha Stewart “Just Wrong”?
They did jail time!
Hillary should too!
Obama and Office Holder also!
ConcealedKerry on April 24, 2013 at 5:15 PM
HotAirLib, DDay is right. You’re admitting Hillary lied, and celebrating the fact that the Republicans can’t do more about it?
Does the fact that four Americans died mean anything at all to you?
Throat Wobbler Mangrove on April 24, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Hillary killed more people than the Boston Bombers… She’s on her way to New York… To party.
2Tru2Tru on April 24, 2013 at 5:59 PM
Alternate headline: Notorious liar caught lying about embarrassing failure. Supporters pretend shock.
There Goes the Neighborhood on April 24, 2013 at 6:15 PM
Somehow? Little slow, aren’t you?
And yes, denying a request for security is very much an action. So don’t try to weasel out on a technicality.
There Goes the Neighborhood on April 24, 2013 at 6:19 PM
Deja vu all over again….
For the trolls, let me elucidate:
That was exactly what happened with Bill Clinton, ol’ “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky,” when he got caught lying about Monica Lewinsky. The left admitted that he lied, and celebrated that nothing could be done about it.
Of course, at least that time nobody died. Is Hillary Clinton just that much more incompetent than her husband?
There Goes the Neighborhood on April 24, 2013 at 6:23 PM
Why is no one in DC Politics ever responsible for anything?
I like old POP culture movies and books because they reflect the moralities of the culture at that time.
John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart were fighting the “Japs” and the NAZI’s” back in the 1930′s. Wounder why WWII was such a surprise?
In these old movies one can find the answer to the question WHY. Everyone has got something on everyone else. You mess with my people and we will destroy you and your career for ever.
“Mr Smith Goes to Washington” 1939 James Stewart
“Davy Crockett Goes to Congress” 1954 Fess Parker
“Billy Jack Goes to Washington” 1977 Tom Laughlin
“The Distinguished Gentleman” 1992 Eddie Murphy
“Mr Griffin Goes to Washington” 2001 Family Guy
“Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blue 2001 Reese Witherspoon
What do they have in common? One person went up against the corrupt Washington system and was nearly destroyed by it. What can WE learn? This has been recognized in our culture for over 70 years and has not yet changed.
PROBLEM: Congress looks out for Congress. Party affiliations and Party obedience is all there is in political life and the Communist Party.
PROPOSAL: Establish a “Court of Public Opinion”
The public can bring up a public official on charges.
A real retired Judge like “Judge Andrew Napolitano” acts a judge, explains the charges and the rules of evidence.
A real prosecutor presents the case.
A real defense attorney or the individual accused presents the defense.
Redirect – prosecution
Redirect – defense.
Summation
Judge give instruction.
WE The People vote.
jpcpt03 on April 24, 2013 at 6:33 PM
I’m still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that Sandy Burglar stole classified documents right out of the National Archives and walked away without even a day in jail.
But it was to protect Bill Clinton from being exposed for his inaction regarding Osama bin Laden, so no harm done, right?
There Goes the Neighborhood on April 24, 2013 at 7:02 PM
“Sec. Clinton…
lied…er…misspoke during hercongressional testimonyvisit to congress about theJihadi terroist attackunfortunate incident in Benghazi…or something…But we don’t need another inquiry or committee cause ummmm…I said so.” – Speaker Boehnerworkingclass artist on April 24, 2013 at 7:33 PM
…two single braincells…trying to rub together
KOOLAID2 on April 24, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Jellyfish sting worse than this gutless lambasting of the bastard Hillary.
profitsbeard on April 25, 2013 at 3:49 AM
I assume Hillary will be charged with perjury now, right?
MPan on April 25, 2013 at 9:03 AM
The way to get at this is not to go for high-profile types but to get Petraeus to a deal that mitigates his apparent perjury.
His sex-scandal was all-too-convenient and in fact not relevant. He’s still a witness.
virgo on April 26, 2013 at 2:27 AM