Is Cain the biggest loser in WaPo’s hit on Perry?

posted at 12:05 pm on October 3, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Sometimes, competition can make people abandon their natural common sense.  That arguably happened yesterday to Herman Cain, who must have seen the Washington Post exposé on Rick Perry about a Texas hunting ranch lease from the 1980s as an opening to hit one of the frontrunners in the race.  Cain appeared on ABC’s This Week and blasted Perry as “insensitive” (mildly NSFW):

This certainly seemed like a gift in the middle of a tough campaign, but as Jazz wrote yesterday, the Post’s story had a lot of holes in it — starting with the problem that they didn’t even find the rock in question, and that Perry’s family didn’t own or name the ranch, but in fact found the name offensive enough to cover with paint and flip over. Instead of waiting for more information, though, Cain accepted the premise of the Post’s article, which raised the ire of some conservatives, if my Twitter feed yesterday was any indication.

The Boss Emeritus provides some needed context to the Post’s attack:

The Post interviewed dozens of people. The New York Timesfollowed up with another crack investigation of hazy memories of bygone days.

They’ve given “stoning” a whole new meaning.

Has Perry actually used the racial epithet himself — you know, like the late, former KKK leader Robert Byrd did as recently as 2001?

Did Perry condescendingly refer to a black politician as “articulate and bright and clean” like Biden did when he described Barack Obama in 2007?

Did Perry racially stereotype Hispanics for political gain or refer offensively to President Obama’s “light skin” and “lack of a Negro dialect” like Senate Democrat leader Harry Reid did just last year?

No.

This prompted Michael Tomasky at The Daily Beast to write that the biggest loser of the ranch flap is likely to be Cain, and not Perry (via The Week):

And it is instructive, is it not, that no other candidate jumped on this revelation? Think about the conversations that must have gone on in Mitt Romney’s camp, or in Rick Santorum’s. I bet they weren’t even very long conversations. It’s a charge that emanates from the liberal media, and the last thing in the world, and I mean the very last thing, a candidate chasing Republican primary votes wants to do is sound like that. It’s a dead certainty that we won’t hear another peep about this story from them.

As for Cain, one wonders what synapse snapped into action there. He has been reliably on message on such matters, saying things like (as he said even yesterday) two thirds of black Americans are victims of “brainwashing” against conservatism. I guess he just doesn’t know his steam-locomotive history. But he said what he said, and now he’s going to have to prove to these people, just as he was gaining a little momentum, that he isn’t morphing into Al Sharpton.

As for Perry himself, he seems unlikely to be hurt very much. One supposes it is possible that some group of GOP panjandrums will send up a smoke signal, gather in lower Manhattan, and decide that this is another sign that Perry isn’t the man to put forward next November. If he’d been coming off three dominant debate performances and was still running away with it, he could wrap himself in the highest possible dudgeon and try to chop the Post to pieces for the amusement of a salivating base constituency. But since he’s on the downswing for now, he needs to play defense, which is what his camp did yesterday. This charge may make some conservatives feel that Perry is a tad embarrassing. But how many will it personally offend? Let’s face it, based on the evidence of the last debate, the GOP base thinks Perry isn’t racially insensitive enough, giving $100,000 college-education discounts to all those illegal brown children.

I don’t find it at all surprising that Cain, who grew up in poverty and oppressive state-backed racism, would have an immediate and emotional reaction to this story.  It seems almost churlish to scold him for calling it “insensitive,” a rather mild criticism considering the nature of the term.  The other candidates in the GOP race for the nomination don’t have a history with this term as Cain does and could approach it more coolly, perhaps, while looking at the greater strategy of avoiding the potential backfire when the story came apart.

That said, the media has quite a track record of highlighting tenuous connections to racism when it comes to Republicans while, pardon the pun, whitewashing it when it comes to Democrats.  Conservatives who were angry with Perry over his harsh reaction to criticism of his state-based tuition breaks for children of illegal immigrants might tend to rally around him after watching a national media outlet accuse him falsely of perpetuating an ugly term that Perry himself said “has no place in the modern world.”  They’re not likely to look kindly on those who bolster the case of the media, regardless of the context of life experience from which the reaction originates.  That’s why it’s always best when these media “exposés” arise to withhold judgment until all of the facts are on the table.

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The other candidates in the GOP race for the nomination don’t have a history with this term as Cain does and could approach it more coolly, perhaps, while looking at the greater strategy of avoiding the potential backfire when the story came apart.

He seemed pretty cool about it on FNS

blatantblue on October 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM

This entire kerfuffle will wind up helping Perry and hurting Cain. And it should. I don’t know about everyone else, but I was sick of the race card decades ago.

Kataklysmic on October 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Note to Herman Cain – The Media is not your friend.

sleepy-beans on October 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Agree will hurt Cain more than Perry…catch 22 for him

cmsinaz on October 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Christie is clearly not the Biggest Loser.

/jk

faraway on October 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

This prompted Michael Tomasky at The Daily Beast to write that the biggest loser of the ranch flap is likely to be Cain

This charge may make some conservatives feel that Perry is a tad embarrassing

Like I said before (and for which I was excoriated), this whole episode helps neither Perry nor Cain.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

I’m pretty sure that conventional wisdom on the dextrosphere seems to have declared Cain the loser. But let me ask you this:

Three months from now, what are people going to remember about this incident? That Cain took offense to an offensive word, or that Perry has been associated, however obliquely, with the N-word?

KingGold on October 3, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Its a TwoFer

faraway on October 3, 2011 at 12:12 PM

This charge may make some conservatives feel that Perry is a tad embarrassing.

Vote out the cocktail party Republicans, and this problem goes away.

faraway on October 3, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Good night Citizen Cain. You’ve been caught into the media net. It’s over, Bachmann style. It’s of yer own making, sadly.

The media, the NYTs leading, have preempted this.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Herman is playing the race card. This is not good. He’s pulling an Obama “say anything to get elected” move.

People who will not be the nominee in 2012:

Mama Fizzly
Herman Cain
Michelle Bachmann
Rick Santorum
Newt Gincrich
Jon Huntsman
Gary what’s his name.

NickDeringer on October 3, 2011 at 12:15 PM

This entire kerfuffle will wind up helping Perry and hurting Cain. And it should. I don’t know about everyone else, but I was sick of the race card decades ago.

Kataklysmic on October 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Yes, I agree. It’s already enticed Cain into more blatant racialist referencing than he needs or ever needed to go into, unfortunately.

Which only serves to fulfill the Left’s taunts about him, also unfortunately, in some sort of bizarre Reverse Order World (he’s “racist” because he’s condemning what he views as racism or “insensitivity” to racism).

Cain needs to drop this issue immendiately, and offer some sort of polite, gentlemanyly apology to Perry for straining the issue. Cain does NOt need to carry the water for the Leftmedia but that’s what he’s done, also and again, unfortunately.

Lourdes on October 3, 2011 at 12:15 PM

People who will not be the nominee in 2012:

Oooops! Almost forgot

Ron Paul

NickDeringer on October 3, 2011 at 12:16 PM

NickDeringer on October 3, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Did you forget Ron Paul?

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:16 PM

People who will not be the nominee in 2012:

Oooops! Almost forgot

Ron Paul

NickDeringer on October 3, 2011 at 12:16 PM

NickDeringer on October 3, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Did you forget Ron Paul?

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Heh

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Kataklysmic on October 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Lourdes on October 3, 2011 at 12:15 PM

BUT, POLITICALLY speaking, I see where Cain was going here, or wanted to go, and that was to win over more people among the racialist Blacks by appearing to speak for them. Or something.

I was disappointed to hear Cain delve into this as he has. He’s pandering.

Lourdes on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Cain nailed Perry on his Racist Ranch.

Perry campaign is in disarray.

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Yes, it will hurt Cain more. As will the Hispanic bashing end up hurting Romney more. He thinks he can get the nomination then break out the tacos. No, Señor.

Marcus on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Three months from now, what are people going to remember about this incident?

KingGold on October 3, 2011 at 12:12 PM

They will be thinking about the latest “hit piece” by the lsm. The lsm isso invested in obambi it will not quit “being in the tank” for him until they are out of business.

VegasRick on October 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

What is “inensitive” always, is to see Christiane Amanpour’s face and attitude. God, how fugly, inside and out, especially what she stands for/against.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Like I said before (and for which I was excoriated), this whole episode helps neither Perry nor Cain.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

If you had put it that way, you wouldn’t have been excoriated and you know it.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Cain said the word was insensitive. He didn’t accuse Perry of racism. I think the media is smearing both men. Anyway, who else do we have to vote for besides Cain? He’s still got my support.

joe_doufu on October 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM

If you had put it that way, you wouldn’t have been excoriated and you know it.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Oh really?

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:22 PM

I agree. Cain walked right into this pile of dog crap and I expect to see him backtracking on his comments.

It’s like Mickey Kaus said, one thing GOP’s don’t like is to be called heartless. But what they really, really don’t like is for the MSM to twist benign information and take it out of context in an effort to take out a Republican. Need evidence of that? Michelle Malkin is not a big fan of Perry’s and has done nothing but hammer away at him. But yet, here she is vigorously defending him.

Also like Kaus said, who benefits from this? Rick Perry.

ramrants on October 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

They will be thinking about the latest “hit piece” by the lsm. The lsm isso invested in obambi it will not quit “being in the tank” for him until they are out of business.

VegasRick on October 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

So are we going reactionary against the media now?

Does the media’s attack on Perry now absolve him of accusing us of heartlessness twice over? Or are we not acknowledging the fact that the N-word has more impact than we could ever imagine for somebody who is black?

KingGold on October 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Herman’s first mistake: allowing Christiane Amanpour to interview him. If you are serious, you ask for Jack Tapper or no dice…

phreshone on October 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

The MSM doesn’t understand the lack of interest the GOP has in race. If you’re with us in spirit, we don’t care your color. I’ve never heard of a black man or a Hispanic who has gone to a TEA party rally that has felt uncomfortable. Oh, I’m sure there are a few on the fringes who still feel like they did in the ’60s. But they are on the fringes.

On the other hand, we in the GOP do not like race baiting. And we don’t like being called racist if we have a political disagreement. And we don’t really care for those that do bring race into a political discussion.

Bad move on your part, Mr. Cain. You should have just brushed off the question instead of obliquely accusing Perry of racism. He’s not. He may not be much of a conservative, but he’s not a racist.

Tennman on October 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

If these jackasses don’t stop stepping on their own private parts and stabbing each other in the back Obama will be a shoo-in. I don’t think they know what the true objective is.

rplat on October 3, 2011 at 12:24 PM

That’s why it’s always best when these media “exposés” arise to withhold judgment until all of the facts are on the table.

They’ve done Perry a favor. When Michelle Malkin defends Perry the media failed direly. Cain did too, sadly.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:24 PM

BUT, POLITICALLY speaking, I see where Cain was going here, or wanted to go, and that was to win over more people among the racialist Blacks by appearing to speak for them. Or something.

I was disappointed to hear Cain delve into this as he has. He’s pandering.

Lourdes on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

There is a lot to like about Cain, but he is not ready for prime time. He already has a track record of putting his foot in his mouth and it is going to continue. I don’t have a problem with him being offended by racism, I have a problem with his assumption that the thin case the media has put out there thus far is enough to go after Perry on.

Cain’s biggest obstacles are his foot in mouth disease and the fact that after Obama, I highly doubt the electorate are goign to be in the mood for another candidate with little to no experience regardless of how likeable he is.

Kataklysmic on October 3, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Oh really?

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Yeah really. And before you burst out with “show me” “prove it”. You are the one who started this…again. It evidently bothers you that you were called on it, so you remember where to find it. Go get and let folks who didn’t see what you did decide for themselves.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Someone please send this to Cain – http://moelane.com/2011/10/02/rsrh-looks-like-i-have-to-repost-my-ten-media-truths/

antisocial on October 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM

This will NOT help Obama. Let it be recorded, for history.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM

I get why Cain is sensitive…now this is his moment.
Cain should say
“I regret what I stated, it is such a vile word that a person from my background has an almost intuitive reaction to the word…that being said, I realize that liberal papers know this and will do everything they possibly can to paint conservatives as racists. I have learned my lesson, the media will use me and racism to divide the conservatives. It won’t work, I would never believe that the media would steep to such low levels, but they have, it won’t happen again. My sincere apology to Gov. Perry, and be forewarned journalists, don’t use the horrible act of racism, and your hatred of conservatism as a means to win your battle. It worked last election, it won’t work this election.”

right2bright on October 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Instead of waiting for more information, though, Cain accepted the premise of the Post’s article

Cain: “I don’t know all of the facts, but Perry acted stupidly.”

itsnotaboutme on October 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Yeah really. And before you burst out with “show me” “prove it”. You are the one who started this…again. It evidently bothers you that you were called on it, so you remember where to find it. Go get and let folks who didn’t see what you did decide for themselves.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:25 PM

You, Knucklehead, Schadenfreude, et al., consistently lied about what I said, inventing words that weren’t even there, and when called on it doubled down. You never proved anything because you couldn’t. You are a shameful lot of liars.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

In this 24/7 news cycle culture we live in, EVERYTHING is a big deal.

Let me remind everyone this is not.

blatantblue on October 3, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Cain nailed Perry on his Racist Ranch.

Perry campaign is in disarray.

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Thus the WAPO reels in their catch.

lorien1973 on October 3, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Not a big enough mistake to matter in the long run. I think Cain will learn from the mistake and be more careful in the future. It may hurt Perry with wishy washy people who don’t bother to find the facts out. All in all not a big deal. If he had attacked on it in a debate it might have been

ldbgcoleman on October 3, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Note to Herman Cain – The Media is not your friend.

[sleepy-beans on October 3, 2011 at 12:10 PM]

Bingo.

I’ll give him a little slack on this, this time, my credit score for him on acting stupidly has an asterisk now and another one of these and I’ll be giving him a downgrade to Frequent Media Sucker status.

Dusty on October 3, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Mitt Romney is having a big week isnt he ?? – first Perry on illegal immigrants receiving state funded tuition assistance and now Cain blowing up Perry without knowing the facts… this benefits Romney more than any one else.

Save us Gary Johnson !

nagee76 on October 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Educate yourselves on term and gov’t action/s.

p.s. this is not Wiki.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

You never proved anything because you couldn’t. You are a shameful lot of liars.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Heh, just stick with that. We know what you did, and so do you.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Nah…

balkanmom on October 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Like I said before (and for which I was excoriated), this whole episode helps neither Perry nor Cain.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Well it doesn’t help Romney, the leader in one of the most racist church’s in America…it is a non-issue in the Romney camp, he knows the history of his church, and this ain’t no gun club…

right2bright on October 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Given that we know the rock was painted over and turned over; how long before an intrepid liberal finds it, turns it back over and paints the word back onto the rock. A week? Less?

lorien1973 on October 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Cain said the word was insensitive. He didn’t accuse Perry of racism. I think the media is smearing both men. Anyway, who else do we have to vote for besides Cain? He’s still got my support.

joe_doufu on October 3, 2011 at 12:20 PM

No. Cain didn’t stop there. He accused Perry of leaving it up too long. That implied that Perry was “insensitive.”

Cain nailed Perry on his Racist Ranch.

Perry campaign is in disarray.

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

And what a perfect example we have of the “thinking” process of a Paultard.

JannyMae on October 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Let me remind everyone this is not.

blatantblue on October 3, 2011 at 12:28 PM

2 months from now…a wiser Cain, and no one will remember why.

right2bright on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

I am listening to Rush right now and he is claiming Cain came out and said he should have defended the gay soldier who was booed. Did Cain do this? I haven’t heard it. Anybody?

Bill C on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

I don’t find it at all surprising that Cain, who grew up in poverty and oppressive state-backed racism, would have an immediate and emotional reaction to this story. It seems almost churlish to scold him for calling it “insensitive,” a rather mild criticism considering the nature of the term

Doesn’t matter. he can’t continue to shoot from the lip, regardless of subject matter,…I hoped he had gotten over that.

a capella on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

For starters, this land was a hunting lease of a thousand acres on a 40-something thousand acre ranch owned by a charity. In Texas, hunting leases are big business, but when you lease, you don’t get exclusive year-round use. In some cases they may let you come in the off season to clear brush or place deer feeders etc. but generally it’s only for the lessee’s use during hunting season. Cain and the WaPo apparently ignorant of this and assumed it was like leasing a condo. The Perry’s were quick to cover the offending word and probably had to get the owner’s permission.
While Herman is brushing up on “right of return”, he might want to fact check the WaPo instead of buying their BS hook, line and sinker.

cartooner on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Not only did Cain walk right into the trap, he decided to use it.

Better now than later to discover the naivete. Is he ready to deal with the MSM and DC?

Cody1991 on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

You never proved anything because you couldn’t. You are a shameful lot of liars.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

It looks like a night’s sleep didn’t cure you. Good thing you’re not in court, and I don’t mean the HA court.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

All I want is for this non-story to Hurt the WaPo.

Wishful thinking?

Noel Sheppard at NB has a nice piece about this whole brouhaha, including how the discredited CNN jumped right on their racist bandwagon with this non-story:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/10/03/n-ggerhead-takes-cnn-can-candidate-recover-once-theyve-been-associate

Del Dolemonte on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Well it doesn’t help Romney, the leader in one of the most racist church’s in America…it is a non-issue in the Romney camp, he knows the history of his church, and this ain’t no gun club…

right2bright on October 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

It doesn’t help Obama either.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Heh, just stick with that. We know what you did, and so do you.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

You know who this helps?

LOL

Now let’s here you whine some more!!!

idesign on October 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Or are we not acknowledging the fact that the N-word has more impact than we could ever imagine for somebody who is black?

KingGold on October 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Lighten up francis. There are lots of offensive names for all types of people. If hearing about the “N” word on a rock changes your world it says a lot more about you than the other guy.

VegasRick on October 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Not only did Cain call out Rick Perry for the racist ranch, but he agrees with Ron Paul on Anwar al-Awlaki.

Cain agrees with Paul and says it was illegal to order a shoot to kill order against Anwar al-Awlaki.

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

This will NOT help Obama. Let it be recorded, for history.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Since it will not help Obama, I guess that means you are saying it will help Christie (you know, since not Perry, not Cain = Palin in your warped universe where words mean things other than the obvious, then not Obama could conceivably = Christie).

Why do you have to bring Christie into this? Why are you so gleeful at the media’s smears?

See how easy that was?

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Cain needs to learn this phrase:

“I am not going to comment on a story that I haven’t researched and vetted myself.”

See: Obama and the police acting stupidly

fossten on October 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Heh, just stick with that. We know what you did, and so do you.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

What did I do?

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Herman better realize right away for his sake,the media only wants to trap these candidates.Another problem as I see it,he needs to pick and choose whose show to be on.Right now,he doesn,t need to talk to everyone who asks him for comments.

ohiobabe on October 3, 2011 at 12:36 PM

I am disappointed the Cain allowed himself to be suckered by the media, and did not seem to do any checking to find out the truth of the matter.

A note for the future for Mr. Cain’s campaign:

When the media says anything research, research, research until you find the truth, before responding, because every one of them is a damned liar just doing their best to make you look foolish.

Siddhartha Vicious on October 3, 2011 at 12:36 PM

This from the self-proclaimed “Most trusted name in news.”

Makes you wonder if the Washington Post is hanging a “Mission Accomplished” banner in its newsroom this morning.

Del Dolemonte, mission accomplished is that the fools helped Perry get away from the “in state tuition” and other items.

You know who this helps?

LOL

Now let’s here you whine some more!!!

idesign on October 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM

It helps Chris Christie, Perry and all the conservatives, except Cain, because it makes the media look like gilded horseturds.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

This would have been the perfect opportunity for Cain to tell the world that Obama is doomed, and he can only play the race card to win.

Not sure how he missed the set up.

faraway on October 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Not only did Cain call out Rick Perry for the racist ranch, but he agrees with Ron Paul on Anwar al-Awlaki.

Cain agrees with Paul and says it was illegal to order a shoot to kill order against Anwar al-Awlaki.

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Ohhh, that’s going to sting. Obama is more aggressive in the GWOT than Cain?

Is Cain competing for the 5% of the base that supports Ron Paul? Good luck with that. It was a nice 2 week run for Cain. I was actually starting to warm up to him.

ramrants on October 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

“conservatives” should be “conservatives/Rs”, as not all are conservative.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:38 PM

I am listening to Rush right now and he is claiming Cain came out and said he should have defended the gay soldier who was booed. Did Cain do this? I haven’t heard it. Anybody?

Bill C on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

It’s on Fox News’ site – or it was the last time I was on there.

gophergirl on October 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM

You know who this helps?

LOL

Now let’s here you whine some more!!!

idesign on October 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Even Bevo’s cohorts recognize what he did.

I like it and I do hope it does help her.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM

During the overnight, I happened to tune into the C-BS Flagship station, WC-BS 880 in NYC, for their top of the hour national newscast.

C-BS relegates their farthest-Left “anchors” to the overnight shift, and the most radical of them all is Tom Foty, who wasn’t even born in the US. He’s a reliable pro-O’bama Kneepad.

In “reporting” this story early this morning (on the midnight EDT national newscast), Foty actually uttered the full word that was on the rock.

Dr. Goebbels would be proud of him.

Del Dolemonte on October 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Me too – the race baiting/card has got to stop. They’ve been playing it against all of us for the past 2+ years.

Enough is enough.

gophergirl on October 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Yes Cain did say he should have stood up for the gay soldier…

sandee on October 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

See how delusional you are. Seek treatment because you are a ‘sick’ puppy. You bring things up, which float in your head, then whatever anyone says, you float some more things…in your head. Like I said, good thing you’re not in court today, I mean the one with judges.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Cain is starting to believe his own press.

He’s on the way back down to the lower tier.

huckleberryfriend on October 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Cain nailed Perry on his Racist Ranch.

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Hey, hey…

What anyone does behind closed doors is their own business…

Danny on October 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Meanwhile, the market is selling off again.

Cain and the other candidates would do well to focus on the economy and job creation instead of squabbling amongst themselves during the debates and allowing the MSM to redirect the conversation by creating situations that are picking at old scabs.

Cain must be aware that this is going to be an ugly campaign yet he played into it. I am not impressed with his performance.

Cody1991 on October 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

You, Knucklehead, Schadenfreude, et al., consistently lied about what I said, inventing words that weren’t even there, and when called on it doubled down. You never proved anything because you couldn’t. You are a shameful lot of liars.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

How would I know you aren’t lying? Go ahead. Prove it. I’ve seen your intellectual dishonesty before.

cartooner on October 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Three months from now, what are people going to remember about this incident?

KingGold on October 3, 2011 at 12:12 PM

This incident? Oh, In three months, you can be sure they’ll be plenty busy with an all new incident Cain will provide.

Dongemaharu on October 3, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Yes, it will hurt Cain more. As will the Hispanic bashing end up hurting Romney more. He thinks he can get the nomination then break out the tacos. No, Señor.

Marcus on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Bachmann & Santorum can be included in this also.

bluefox on October 3, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Yes Cain did say he should have stood up for the gay soldier…

sandee on October 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

He also said he thought that the rest of the candidates on stage probably didn’t agree with the behavior. And he pointed out that the booing probably had to do with the repeal of DADT, not the fact that the soldier was gay.

That said, Cain needs to be careful. As someone above pointed out, he needs to know the media is not his friend. They are going to continue to attempt to use him to try and paint conservatives as racists and homophobes as they have been doing (with some degree of success).

Kataklysmic on October 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Is Cain the biggest loser in WaPo’s hit on Perry?

Why, yes, yes he is. He needs to take a few steps back from his newly found momentum and start focusing on the issues, not bashing his fellow candidates, especially with unfounded accusations. Stupid move on his part IMHO.

scalleywag on October 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Cain nailed Perry on his Racist Ranch.

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

You, a Paul adherent, write this, with a straight face? YOU lost all credibility.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Like I said before (and for which I was excoriated), this whole episode helps neither Perry nor Cain.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM

I disagree. People don’t support those that are being falsely accused, at least I don’t. So this will hurt Cain and help Perry.

bluefox on October 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Political correctness is a double edge sword and the liberal stream media are glad to stick Conservatives with it any way they can.

Herman as yet has too much trust for all media, period.

Speakup on October 3, 2011 at 12:46 PM

bluefox on October 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Relax, everything must hurt Perry. At least, according to one of the top five Perry haters here…Bevo.

cozmo on October 3, 2011 at 12:47 PM

It’s not too late to issue a “clarification” of your thoughts, Mr. Cain. A lot of us have had trouble coming to the conclusion that anything written by JournoListers is not to be trusted, without verification.

Now is your chance, Mr. Cain. Please don’t go Full Retard, like Bachmann/vaccines, or Perry/illegal immigration or Romney/global warming, or…or…or…

Exit question. Why does Hot Air continue to link to the Washington Post or New York Times? How many made up stories does it take for Hot Air to find better sources to link to, at the top of the page?

MNHawk on October 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Newsflash: Cain will not take Paul as VP.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Meh, flavor of the week, still waiting for the real thing. Hint it’s a she.

milemarker2020 on October 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

See how delusional you are. Seek treatment because you are a ‘sick’ puppy. You bring things up, which float in your head, then whatever anyone says, you float some more things…in your head. Like I said, good thing you’re not in court today, I mean the one with judges.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Considering that you read Palin into a comment where she wasn’t even mentioned, I would say you are the delusional one, bringing things up which float in your head.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Political correctness is a double edge sword and the liberal stream media are glad to stick Conservatives with it any way they can.

Herman as yet has too much trust for all media, period.

Speakup on October 3, 2011 at 12:46 PM

I like Cain buy I think he would have done himself a favor by saying “are you really asking me about a word, painted on a rock, that had been painted over a decade ago?. Can we please get serious about getting this country back on it’s feet and stop all of this nonesense”.

VegasRick on October 3, 2011 at 12:50 PM

I disagree. People don’t support those that are being falsely accused, at least I don’t. So this will hurt Cain and help Perry.

bluefox on October 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

“Liar, prove it” –steebo77

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:50 PM

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

The biggest couch won’t help you because you can’t be helped.

Schadenfreude on October 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

See: Obama and the police acting stupidly

[fossten on October 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM]

See also: ‘WH: We oppose the SB1070 bill we haven’t read yet.’

Dusty on October 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I disagree. People don’t support those that are being falsely accused, at least I don’t. So this will hurt Cain and help Perry.

bluefox on October 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM

If Perry hadn’t already been damaged by his debate performances and the tuition/heartless issue, I would agree, but I think this latest episode would tend to make some of his marginal supporters (the type who float from candidate to candidate) throw up their hands and say “what’s the point” if they haven’t already. I don’t think it hurts him greatly, but I definitely don’t think it helps.

steebo77 on October 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I don’t find it at all surprising that Cain, who grew up in poverty and oppressive state-backed racism, would have an immediate and emotional reaction to this story. It seems almost churlish to scold him for calling it “insensitive,” a rather mild criticism considering the nature of the term. The other candidates in the GOP race for the nomination don’t have a history with this term as Cain does and could approach it more coolly, perhaps, while looking at the greater strategy of avoiding the potential backfire when the story came apart.

Bull, bull and Bull!

Cain’s first instinct after reading this media hack job was to yank out the race card. Right out of the Liberal Democrat playbook. So its churlish to scold Cain for using the race card…something completely against Republican ideas of color-blindedness?! Its a mild criticism to wield the race card against an opponent as a bludgeon, like some Democrat race baiter?! Cain’s opponents don’t have a history with this term like he does? So we give him a pass on pulling the race card because he’s black?!

We Republicans and Conservatives are supposed to bring an entirely different set of principles to this game. We don’t lean on our race as a crutch. We don’t badger opponents as racists unless they truly are. And we don’t support race-baiting memes put out by the Liberal press.

JonPrichard on October 3, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Spathi on October 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM

One would think you needed a rest after your busy weekend…

… Precious bodily fluids need time to recoup. Don’t give yourself a cramp now, deary.

Seven Percent Solution on October 3, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Whaddya wanna bet that the original target wasn’t Perry at all but Cain?

The story was bait.

How dare a black man be a conservative and even worse how dare he think he can run for President on the Republican ticket? He has to be stupid to not see how ‘racist’ those ‘R’s are. We’ll teach him. Bonus: then he can beat up on Perry. It’ll be a twofer.

MaggiePoo on October 3, 2011 at 12:52 PM

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