Perry and the “N-word Stone”

posted at 12:00 pm on October 2, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

The Washington Post is leaving no stone unturned in their efforts to investigate every presidential candidate, and in Rick Perry’s case, it’s literally true. They have apparently dug up – again, almost literally – a large flat rock which used to stand outside the gates of a remote stretch of ranch-land which his family leased as a hunting camp. In times past it seems to have been emblazoned with a name containing a racially charged epithet which need not be repeated here.

Paint Creek, Tex. — In the early years of his political career, Rick Perry began hosting fellow lawmakers, friends and supporters at his family’s secluded West Texas hunting camp, a place known by the name painted in block letters across a large, flat rock standing upright at its gated entrance.

“**********,” it read. [expletive deleted]

Ranchers who once grazed cattle on the 1,070-acre parcel on the Clear Fork of the Brazos River called it by that name well before Perry and his father, Ray, began hunting there in the early 1980s. There is no definitive account of when the rock first appeared on the property. In an earlier time, the name on the rock was often given to mountains and creeks and rock outcroppings across the country. Over the years, civil rights groups and government agencies have had some success changing those and other racially offensive names that dotted the nation’s maps.

But the name of this particular parcel did not change for years after it became associated with Rick Perry, first as a private citizen, then as a state official and finally as Texas governor. Some locals still call it that. As recently as this summer, the slablike rock — lying flat, the name still faintly visible beneath a coat of white paint — remained by the gated entrance to the camp.

When asked last week, Perry said the word on the rock is an “offensive name that has no place in the modern world.”

This story has it all, as national political race tales go. A popular, if recently struggling frontrunner for the GOP nomination, hints of racism, good ole’ boy politics… you name it. And it seems beyond question – at least thus far – that at least part of the story is true. The rock exists, though thrown down and painted over, and it did stand outside the ranch at one time. And if this turned out to be something that Perry knowingly embraced and maintained it would be the death of his political career at the national level.

But is it indicative of some deep-bred problem of racism in the Perry family? Not according to the initial pushback from his camp.

The presidential campaign of Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) complained Sunday that a front-page Washington Post story contains “incorrect, inconsistent” claims.

[...]

“A number of claims made in the story are incorrect, inconsistent, and anonymous, including the implication that Rick Perry brought groups to the lease when the word on the rock was still visible. The one consistent fact in the story is that the word on a rock was painted over and obscured many years ago.

First of all, not in an attempt to excuse the stone itself in any way, that name was sadly quite common across America for a long time… well into the 20th century. There is a ridge near my family’s original summer camp in the Adirondack Mountains in New York containing a spectacular, huge granite outcropping which went by the same name among the locals at least as late as the mid 70′s. It’s just part of a less educated era of our nation’s history.

But as to the case under discussion, this goes one of two ways for Perry. The land in question was leased, originally by his father, with the governor adding his name to the lease in later years. They no longer rent the property and never owned it. According to his response to the Washington Post, the first time he saw the rock – decades ago – he found it offensive and pointed it out to his father. It was then painted over and put out of sight.

Assuming that’s the truth, Perry has absolutely nothing to worry about and the Washington Post will have egg on its face again for looking like they’re cooking up a witch hunt against a GOP frontrunner. And given the “details” in their coverage, don’t be surprised if that’s exactly how this one plays out. While the fact of the stone’s existence seems beyond doubt, their “questions remaining” about the dates when it was painted over and thrown down involve anonymous sources with fuzzy memories and no specific dates given to contradict Perry’s claims.

If, however, some damning pictures, local news items or home movie footage show up which prove Rick Perry was there giving guests tours of the camp with the stone in place, well.. stick a fork in him. He’s done. It would demonstrate that he’s lying about it and – in politics – the coverup is always worse than the crime.

I wouldn’t count on it, though. Perry strikes me as too smart to think something like that could be covered up through the rigorous vetting of a presidential campaign, and the WaPo’s reputation isn’t exactly the gold standard on things like this. Combine that with the lack of specificity in the “questions” being raised in their article and this smells more like something you’d find in one of the outhouses on Perry’s former hunting camp site.

Update (Ed): Here is the statement from Perry’s camp in its entirety:

“A number of claims made in the story are incorrect, inconsistent, and anonymous, including the implication that Rick Perry brought groups to the lease when the word on the rock was still visible. The one consistent fact in the story is that the word on a rock was painted over and obscured many years ago.

“Gov. Perry and his family never owned, controlled or managed the property referenced in the Washington Post story. The 42,000-acre ranch is owned by the Hendricks Home for Children, a West Texas charity. http://www.hendrickhome.com/

“Perry’s father painted over offensive language on a rock soon after leasing the 1,000-acre parcel in the early 1980s.  When Gov. Perry was party to the hunting lease from 1997 to 2007, the property was described as northern pasture.  He has not been to the property since 2006.

“In 1991, the Texas Legislature passed a bill to rename old, offensive place names.”

If so, this is journalistic malpractice, and the Washington Post owes Governor Perry a big apology.

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Hey WAPO, did anyone paint over Rev. Wright yet? Because Obama sat and listened to him and applauded his racism for nearly 20 years, and it didn’t seem to bother you one bit, did it? You hypocritical dirtbags.

drunyan8315 on October 2, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Heck….I’m still waiting to hear his stance on Afghanistan. He never did “get back to me” on that.

tencole on October 2, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Oh, I’m sure it’s in the mail. He probably misplaced your email:-)

Hey, I don’t even live in Kentucky, but I sent an email to Rand Paul and I get regular updates from him!! Cool!

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Perry is done anyway.

He was just one of the Great-Conservative-Hope-of-the-Moment candidates. Seems to last about two weeks.

Moesart on October 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Where’s the story on Cain’s communication director and her deputy resigning yesterday? What’s going on there? Any reporting on that? Has anyone from HA reached out to her? Ed? Allah? Tina? Lots, LOTS more important things to be talking about than this.

Purple Fury on October 2, 2011 at 1:44 PM

I agree, there are lots, and lots, and lots more things to be talking about then an “insulting rock”.

Cain’s communication director leaving was kind of swept under the rug….they say it was amicable. My feeling on it was that Cain was doing sooo poorly that she decided to jump ship long ago for greener pastures, and then all of a sudden Cain is the “flavor of the month” again.
Not to worry….Cain hasn’t changed and still shows his true colors/inexperience….he’ll drop back down again.

tencole on October 2, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Isn’t it the Washington Post that owns a private college/shell company? I thought i read somewhere that if the WAPo had to surive on its advertising revenue, it would have been dead-and-gone at least a decade ago.

gryphon202 on October 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Yes, the Kaplan/Maric dynasty. And, IMO it is one big government student loan scam.

greeneyedconservative on October 2, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Somewhat OT: is Perry part American Indian? He sure looks like it in that picture.

Ted Torgerson on October 2, 2011 at 1:48 PM

I think he’s part “Fakawee”.

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VegasRick on October 2, 2011 at 1:55 PM

What is considered being a “gool ol’ boy” in Texas is often viewed as dishonest and corrupt in the rest of the country.

bw222 on October 2, 2011 at 1:39 PM

LOL…Is that anything like the “Chicago way”?

tencole on October 2, 2011 at 1:55 PM

There’s no need to stereotype Perry for being a good ol’ boy. He is one, or at least he tried really hard to become one.

Rick was groomed by his dad from the onset to go into politics and curry the favor of the rich and powerful through these hunting parties. (This is also true of GWB and Mitt Romney.)

All of you are kidding yourself if you think Perry won’t be the status quo candidate. Perry owes lots of powerful people.

haner on October 2, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Koa on October 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM

My point was to refute the argument that this n-word name is so “common” that it’s not unusual to find it used in Texas or anywhere else, as if it’s part of Texas or American lore, as Mr. Shaw seems to indicate.
It isn’t.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Herman Cain said this makes Perry insensitive.. I think it is probably more a case of oversight than anything else.

Terrye on October 2, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Moesart on October 2, 2011 at 1:52 PM

You know I would have agreed with you except for the fact that I know better.

Perry, unlike the other neophytes, has a record he can run on. A more than a decade experience of governing the second largest state. And it is a successful record.

So fantasize all you want. I will love rubbing it in when he becomes the nominee.

TheRightMan on October 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM

tencole on October 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM

We LOVE West Texas. That’s not the point. The points is that jen is an uber-Palin cultist. She has said on many occasions-in so many words-that I haven’t lived here long enough to have a valid opinion on Texas issues or Texas politicians. The head of the Lubbock County GOP finds my opinions to plenty plenty valid and thinks people like jen are full of crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM

I’ve been around the world-literally-and have lived in London and Paris.
Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Oh, well, that explains a whole lot.

Such things are usually only seen by people who hike, camp, in the back country; who explore something beyond tea shops and sip wine and eat Brie on le boulevard.

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM

A lot here on it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/print/275673

sharrukin on October 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Thanks, got it. Who talked Governor Perry into getting into this race? Romney will have even more ammunition. Perry better take the offensive, because Romney sees that he has him on the ropes, and is moving in for the knockout with the in-state tuition ad. Ironically, there is plenty of ammunition for Perry to use against Romney, but he doesn’t seem to be striking hard yet. He better hit back now before it is too litte, too late.

SheetAnchor on October 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Somewhat OT: is Perry part American Indian? He sure looks like it in that picture.

Ted Torgerson on October 2, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Yes. His Indian name is “Talks With Foot In Mouth.”

Mark1971 on October 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Let me clarify. He knows that he should attack Perry. He hasn’t learned how to do it.

MJBrutus on October 2, 2011 at 1:40 PM

MJ, I am a patient person, but we all have our limitations:-)

This is what I’m talking about:

http://www.therightscoop.com/heman-cain-today-i-could-not-support-rick-perry-as-the-nominee/

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM

While there seems to be nothing to these n-word stone allegations, it is somewhat ironic that Perry is now being attacked by the media and Herman Cain for possible racism (or “insensitivity”), when in just the past few weeks he himself has twice basically accused GOP primary voters who oppose his granting of in-state tuition to illegal immigrants of being racist.

steebo77 on October 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM

OK, the more I think about this….

This is a hit piece by the Romney camp, probably with sourcing by Rove.

Intended to hurt Perry. Also, intended to entangle Cain (Chris Wallace??).

faraway on October 2, 2011 at 12:48 PM

I know it might surprise you that politics is more than just debates and policy statements. But someone planted this story at WaPo.

The question is who? and why? I’m just trying to answer those questions.

My guess is, it could only be Obama (he would have waited), Romney (Rove would have the oppo at hand), or Perry himself (to preempt a last minute hit piece).

faraway on October 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Unless you have 100% incontrovertible proof this is a hit piece by Romney, STFU.

This is a hit piece by the liberal MSM, not by Romney or any other Republican 2012 candidate.

Conservative Samizdat on October 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM

My point was to refute the argument that this n-word name is so “common” that it’s not unusual to find it used in Texas or anywhere else, as if it’s part of Texas or American lore, as Mr. Shaw seems to indicate.
It isn’t.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 1:56 PM

+1

Most of those places were renamed in the 60s too. By 1985-1995, you have to be pretty tone deaf to think it’s still acceptable.

Cain is right about the insensitivity remark. It’s not playing the race card any more than calling out Holocaust deniers and slurs against Jews as antisemitic is playing the race card.

haner on October 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Obama Administration Drafts Legal Advisory Justifying Killing of Americans without Trial

Spathi on October 2, 2011 at 1:56 PM

I’m so %^&*(#@ happy that that muslim-terrorist prick Awlaki is burning right now.
Woo-Hoo!

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:03 PM

I can’t believe I’m reading this, the WaPo is pathetic.

It’s a ROCK. a freaking ROCK. I used to go to a tubing place everyone called Satan’s kingdom, and the name is carved into all kinds of rocks, does that mean I am a devil worshiper?

WaPo looking for to cook up another Makaka comment. Also, as mentioned, this stinks of the Romney campaign with a little Rove thrown in.

Daemonocracy on October 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Cain’s insensitive remark was appropriate. He’s already portrayed by the left as Uncle Tom.

Having N*head into the 1980s is insensitive. The times had long changed by then.

haner on October 2, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Rick Perry: Between A Rock and a Hard Place

Democrat means always calling your political opposition a racist.

Dr Evil on October 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Hey, how’s it going? It doesn’t take long to love Texas, LOL
As long as you have your Citizenship papers, you’re good:-) I had to turn mine back in when I left, LOL Just kidding!

Now that was always a good natured joke years ago in Texas. But with today’s accusations of racism and craziness against Gov. Perry , who knows? Anyway, my remark was the old fashioned good natured kind:-)

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM

WaPo looking for to cook up another Makaka comment. Also, as mentioned, this stinks of the Romney campaign with a little Rove thrown in.

Daemonocracy on October 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Is Romney code for something?

wtf is up with all these groundless accusations?

haner on October 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM

I also have visited country cousins in East Texas (one of the most racially backwards places in the world) who hunt and are proud rednecks.
Go to Marshall, Texas: they still think the Civil War hasn’t been won yet…by the South.
I could fully believe they’d brag about hunting at a place with this name and think it was funny.
But they’re not running for President against two black men (Cain and 0bama).

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Ironically, there is plenty of ammunition for Perry to use against Romney, but he doesn’t seem to be striking hard yet. He better hit back now before it is too litte, too late.

SheetAnchor on October 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM

I don’t think Perry has ever really faced a serious opponent before. He doesn’t seem to know how to debate, counter an argument, or respond to criticism.

sharrukin on October 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Where’s the story on Cain’s communication director and her deputy resigning yesterday? What’s going on there? Any reporting on that? Has anyone from HA reached out to her? Ed? Allah? Tina? Lots, LOTS more important things to be talking about than this.

Purple Fury on October 2, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Clue me in, links? I spend too much time on HA. Need to get out more:-)

Thanks,

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM

I wonder what Perry was to have done. Changed the name of a place he didn’t own? Paint over the rock earlier? Do a racial sensitivity tour denouncing any and all racial slurs? I guess the point is, there’s nothing he could have done differently. Because it’s about WHO HE IS. When someone slurs you, there’s nothing you can do. You have no recourse. It’s about who you are, not what you’ve done. Isn’t it ironic he’s being slurred because of some association he had with a racial slur? If slurs are bad, then … isn’t slurring Perry bad too?

Paul-Cincy on October 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

It is true that names stick to places. We have a bottom road that runs through our property and the locals have called it the Rubber Tree Road for years. They call it that because there used to be a big tree near the road where kids parked and made out. Hence, it was called the rubber tree. My husband got tired of that tree shading the field and in general being a hang out and he cut it down. People were outraged. Some people even ask for some wood from that tree for old times sake. To this day, there are people who call that road, the Rubber Tree Road.

Terrye on October 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

“Tuna, Eggs, Doritos, Cheesecake, Tamale….See Ya!”

I don’t know, reading through this thread….I can’t seem to get that video out of my mind. :))

tencole on October 2, 2011 at 1:41 PM

I support Perry and STILL was ROTFLMBO over that video.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 1:46 PM

What video? All I know is mentioning that food is making me hungry:-)

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Wow, is Perry the new Palin?

Seems opponents are putting in way too much overtime turning over every obscure stone in his life to see what was on or under it…

If only the PRESSSSident had put (or would start to put) the same effort to vetting the big O, … Here there are not just obscure stones unturned, but marquees events like Fast & Furious, pay to play Green loans, probably ditto on pay to play Blue stimulus programs, failed and failing Main Street economic and regulatorty policies, Obamacare sucks Main Street down, …

drfredc on October 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

also, as mentioned, this stinks of the Romney campaign with a little Rove thrown in.

Daemonocracy on October 2, 2011 at 2:05 PM

If you have proof of these accusations…I’d like to hear or see it.

If not, shut your trap.

This is 100% a MSM hit piece.

Conservative Samizdat on October 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM

I also have visited country cousins in East Texas ………
Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Oh, well, then you HAVE seen absolutely everything then.

I guess that the dozens of topographic maps that I have seen such names on, that I have seen in person in my back-country wanderings are wrong.

I bow to your greater knowledge and experience.

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

I wonder what Perry was to have done. Changed the name of a place he didn’t own? Paint over the rock earlier? Do a racial sensitivity tour denouncing any and all racial slurs? I guess the point is, there’s nothing he could have done differently. Because it’s about WHO HE IS. When someone slurs you, there’s nothing you can do. You have no recourse. It’s about who you are, not what you’ve done. Isn’t it ironic he’s being slurred because of some association he had with a racial slur? If slurs are bad, then … isn’t slurring Perry bad too?

Paul-Cincy on October 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

I absolutely agree. I don’t see any fault here on Perry’s part at all. I fault Cain for jumping the gun and playing the race card before he knew what the hell he was talking about. He’s dropped a few notches in my estimation, and since I don’t think my preferred candidate is ever getting in, he was my favorite in the field at the moment.

What it goes to show is how easily those “negatives” that some people seem to revel with glee in can be manufactured.

ddrintn on October 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Terrye on October 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

You make an interesting point: if there’s any story behind how this place got that name, kiss Perry goodbye for good, because I’m fairly sure it won’t be a pretty one.

Perry Defenders miss the point when they try to explain away this story: use of the n-word in any context by a candidate in this political environment is radioactive.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM

I’m sorry for trying your patience. I understand that he said he wouldn’t support Perry. I don’t see what conclusion you’re trying to draw from that. Are we in agreement that it is not a good way to go about attacking Perry? Or are you trying to say something else that I’m too dense to see?

MJBrutus on October 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM

I fault Cain for jumping the gun and playing the race card before he knew what the hell he was talking about.

ddrintn on October 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

He has the right of return for all gaffes.

profitsbeard on October 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM

bluefox: You are probably the only person on HA that hasn’t seen this No eating or drinking while watching please. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM

dozens of topographic maps that I have seen such names on
LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Post a few links to those, please.
I would be riveted to see them, as would the other HA posters, I’m sure.

Given that Agatha Christie had to change the name of her mystery “10 Little N******s” to “10 Little Indians” decades ago is a clue.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:17 PM

Paul-Cincy on October 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

If he was going to get into politics, it might have been a good idea to find another hunting camp. Hindsight and all that. They could have made a big deal of renaming it I suppose, just in case.

Terrye on October 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM

I fault Cain for jumping the gun and playing the race card before he knew what the hell he was talking about.

ddrintn on October 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

He has the right of return for all gaffes.

profitsbeard on October 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM

True. If Cain wants to remain the sorta kinda favorite he is right now, and if he has savvy, he’ll come out loudly and publicly with an apology to Perry for speaking out of turn.

ddrintn on October 2, 2011 at 2:19 PM

If he was going to get into politics, it might have been a good idea to find another hunting camp. Hindsight and all that. They could have made a big deal of renaming it I suppose, just in case.

Terrye on October 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Oh, come on. If he ever set foot on the place they’d use it just the same. The MSM is going to smear. A lot of us have been saying that for a long time. No one’s immune.

ddrintn on October 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

I participated in a 5K obstacle course @ Ransom Canyon today-Yes Virginia, there’s a place in Lubbock that actually is hilly-and if me and the Mr. were to go back and just hike around…my guess is that we would see rocks w/all sorts of things written on them.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:21 PM

Post a few links to those, please.
Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:17 PM

Stupid twit.
My maps are paper. not internet pages.
And many of them are fourty, fifty, sixty, years old, and a few even older.

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Compared to jen we’re hicks clinging to our religion and guns. living in the trailer parks, and marrying our siblings.
*cue ‘Deliverance’ theme*
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annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Quit wasting your time
jen is an elitist. bigoted(if you’re a member of the CJCLDS anyway) waste of oxygen.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

I’m sorry for trying your patience. I understand that he said he wouldn’t support Perry. I don’t see what conclusion you’re trying to draw from that. Are we in agreement that it is not a good way to go about attacking Perry? Or are you trying to say something else that I’m too dense to see?

MJBrutus on October 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM

:-) You are getting there, slowly but surely(I hope) The conclusion is by saying that he wouldn’t support Gov. Perry if he is the Republican Nominee is that 1. He’s not going to vote in the General Election or 2. He’s going to vote for Obama.
Entiendo?

Now to give him the benefit of the doubt, he should clarify that statement. Perhaps he meant he wouldn’t support him in the PRIMARY. But he didn’t SAY that. That is my entire point.

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:27 PM

…marrying our siblings…..
annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Heh. I’m an only child. That explains why I’m not married.
I do have a cousin who is kinda cute though.,,, Hmm, maybe…;-)

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:27 PM

If you have proof of these accusations…I’d like to hear or see it.

If not, shut your trap.

This is 100% a MSM hit piece.

Conservative Samizdat on October 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM

lol – Romney already played the race card with that illegal immigration ad, he’s doing it again.

s Romney code for something?

wtf is up with all these groundless accusations?

haner on October 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Romney is code for Liberal. and scumbag.

Daemonocracy on October 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM

bluefox: You are probably the only person on HA that hasn’t seen this No eating or drinking while watching please. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:16 PM

ROFL! Well, I just watched it, Oh my!! So funny, LOL And no, I wasn’t eating or drinking while watching it!

Thanks!!

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

If you have proof of these accusations…I’d like to hear or see it.

If not, shut your trap.

This is 100% a MSM hit piece.

Conservative Samizdat on October 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM

lol – Romney already played the race card with that illegal immigration ad, he’s doing it again.

s Romney code for something?

wtf is up with all these groundless accusations?

haner on October 2, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Romney is code for Liberal. and scumbag.

Daemonocracy on October 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Yes. His Indian name is “Talks With Foot In Mouth.”

Mark1971 on October 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM

LOL…”Save a pretzel for the gas jets!”

tencole on October 2, 2011 at 2:33 PM

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Did a Wikipedia search & it actually talked about 100 places worldwide with the name, but it seems most have been changed since the 1960′s to reflect the changing language and public opinion to those sensitive to that slur.
That being said, it doesn’t exonerate Perry.
When you’re running for office, especially POTUS, everything’s fair game.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Compared to jen we’re hicks clinging to our religion and guns. living in the trailer parks, and marrying our siblings.
*cue ‘Deliverance’ theme*
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annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM

You do that in Texas too? ROFL Just think, you may be my cussin:-)

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM

Dear Lord. What next? Romney in a dress?
Now…try to sleep with that image in your head tonight.

kingsjester on October 2, 2011 at 2:36 PM

Heh. I’m an only child. That explains why I’m not married.
I do have a cousin who is kinda cute though.,,, Hmm, maybe…;-)

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:27 PM

I WISH i was an only child. Alas my parents decided when I was 7 that I REALLY needed a sibling.He was born a few months before I turned 8. The worthless little b*stard is 33 now and a dope-head Naderite supporter.
*glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

i guess everyone knows that Coulter has abandoned Christie and shifted to Romney? And thinks a Romney/Rubio….or Romney/Cain ticket might be just right.

I personally favor any combo that can get us a 60/40 electoral split against the leftists. A massivie repudiation would do wonders for the country…and stiffen a lot of R spines…or at least I hope.

FNC had a “green” documentary on last night. They showed Upton looking like the slimeball he is.

r keller on October 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Stupid, gullible and dishonest prople. That’s who make a big deal of this. You can still support Romney or Cain and not climb on board this slander wagon.

Vince on October 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

When you’re running for office, especially POTUS, everything’s fair game.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Even Palin’s children? Was obsessing over Bristol fair game?

Daemonocracy on October 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

i guess everyone knows that Coulter has abandoned Christie and shifted to Romney? And thinks a Romney/Rubio….or Romney/Cain ticket might be just right.

r keller on October 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

I hadn’t heard that. While I know it won’t matter here at H/A, I think that if she’s vocally for Romney it will definitely help him in the primaries.

MJBrutus on October 2, 2011 at 2:40 PM

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Dont bother with Jenfidel. Living in a omnipotent bubble refusing to accept any knowledge that doesnt apply to her extensive life experience and learnings.

Koa on October 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM

i guess everyone knows that Coulter has abandoned Christie and shifted to Romney? And thinks a Romney/Rubio….or Romney/Cain ticket might be just right.

I hadn’t heard. I wonder what caused the breakup. I did hear that Christie was fundraising for Gov. Jindal and thot that was strange.
Sounded to me it was more for Christie’s benefit, since Jindal doesn’t need help.

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 2:42 PM

There’s a mountain near Los Angeles that was originally named N****rhead Mountain. In the 60′s it was changed to Negrohead Mountain. A couple of years ago it was changed again to Ballard Mountain, the name of the black man who was the area’s first settler. So you have the history of American political correctness told through one mountain.

Mark1971 on October 2, 2011 at 2:43 PM

While it is a bad epithet that shouldn’t be used as a pejorative I think it is silly not to print the “N-word” explicitly when just referring to its use. I would have so used it in this post but I suspect my post would have been stupidly deleted.

Not ever using it explicitly reminds me of a satire on stupid absolute prohibitions of certain words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNeq2Utm0nU

Chessplayer on October 2, 2011 at 2:43 PM

If so, this is journalistic malpractice, and the Washington Post owes Governor Perry a big apology.

Yes, as will Cain.

rukiddingme on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Perry Defenders miss the point when they try to explain away this story: use of the n-word in any context by a candidate in this political environment is radioactive.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Except Perry never used the n-word and painted it over when he saw it.

The prior landowner was the one who used it.

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Koa on October 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM

Because I won’t defend Perry when he’s exposed as a redneck?
Shocker.
He is a redneck, you know, at least in attitude.
But he’s never had a real red neck due to doing any work.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Not to worry, folks, what with all the anarchists rioting all across our country against BOA, the goal may be to just cancel the election. We’ve already had that suggested by some politician, Roseanne is out calling to behead bankers, and all the slackers are demanding a share of anyone’s money that still has any left. All going according to Obama’s plan.

silvernana on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

i guess everyone knows that Coulter has abandoned Christie and shifted to Romney? And thinks a Romney/Rubio….or Romney/Cain ticket might be just right.

r keller on October 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Hmm, interesting… I thought she must have gone a bit soft in the head for her Christie adoration. If she has now switched to Romney, that proves it. She has been hanging out with the wrong crowd, or has bumped her head really hard, or something.

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:46 PM

The prior landowner was the one who used it.

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Then, why is the rock still there? (which the WaPo states that it is)
There should be plenty around to replace it.

And since when did places get known by their “rock name?”

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:46 PM

or has bumped her head really hard, or something.

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 2:46 PM

If so, it knocked some sense in to her :-)

MJBrutus on October 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Because I won’t defend Perry when he’s exposed as a redneck?
Shocker.
He is a redneck, you know, at least in attitude.
But he’s never had a real red neck due to doing any work.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

You are such an elitist b*tch. Sarah Palin must be soooo proud that you’re one of her most ardent supporters.
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annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Wow, is Perry the new Palin?

Seems opponents are putting in way too much overtime turning over every obscure stone in his life to see what was on or under it…

If only the PRESSSSident had put (or would start to put) the same effort to vetting the big O, … Here there are not just obscure stones unturned, but marquees events like Fast & Furious, pay to play Green loans, probably ditto on pay to play Blue stimulus programs, failed and failing Main Street economic and regulatorty policies, Obamacare sucks Main Street down, …

drfredc on October 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Yes, but the good new, Perry’s campaign team isn’t trying to undermine him, this isn’t going to be a replay of John McCain’s campaign team throwing Palin to the media wolves.

Dr Evil on October 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Then, why is the rock still there? (which the WaPo states that it is)
There should be plenty around to replace it.

And since when did places get known by their “rock name?”

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:46 PM

Has the n-word been painted back in?

Or is it just a painted rock lying on the ground with no discernible lettering?

A painted over, turned over rock should not be there at all?

Were they supposed to: a) dynamite it? or b) take it away and drop it in the ocean?

The Perrys are only leasing the property. There is a limit to what a tenant can do to leased premises.

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM

More personal attacks from you.
*yawn* Zzzzz.
There’s nothing “elitist” about wanting the Governor of Texas who’s running for POTUS not making all of Texas look like it’s full of bigoted rednecks.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM

The “N” word is still pretty common… a certain demographic uses it as a term AMONGST THEMSELVES (that’s OK), but IF ANYBODY ELSE USES IT!!

Rap music…

All part of the “It’s OK for me, but NOT YOU (fill it the racial perjorative, but it’s OK for them to say it)…

It is a word that should just NOT be used, ever… One side cheapens the word, and then uses it as a weapon…

No thx… Go be a gift bag at your own pity party…

Khun Joe on October 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Were they supposed to: a) dynamite it? or b) take it away and drop it in the ocean?

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Dynamite, for sure.

Paul-Cincy on October 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM

The Perrys are only leasing the property. There is a limit to what a tenant can do to leased premises.

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM

If they could paint it over–which they did– they could conveniently “break it” and go “Oops.”
Then propose to the owner that he name it something else.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM

My house is 128 years old. The front porch has a railing… with window boxes… The boxes are add-ons. The rail spindles are laid out so that the letters KKK are shown both frontwards and backwards (so that you can read them correctly from both sides).
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The house was built for a doctor. I’ve never checked, but I’ll bet that he belonged to the Klan. There were more than a few members around here back then.
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Does owning this house mean I’m racist? Does leaving the rails as I found them mean something sinister? When I have the window boxes off for repair, should I cover the rails over? No. No. And No. But if I ran for office and some media pri*k found out about the rails I’d be hammered for owning them.
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Same thing with Perry… I think it was racist to paint the rock over. What is it with denying black history? Hell, some day a millionaire rap artist will wish he could find that rock to buy and put in front of his place in LA.
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RalphyBoy on October 2, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Several people here have accused the Romney campaign of planting this story.

Do they have any evidence of that at all, or are they just liars?

Adjoran on October 2, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Khun Joe on October 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM

One of my favorite movies is, “Gran Turino.” Clint Eastwood’s dialog was nothing but racial slurs. The thing is, he would use the same words lovingly or to be hurtful. Nobody was ever confused about his meaning. It was like that when I was a kid.

MJBrutus on October 2, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Cain’s insensitive remark was appropriate. He’s already portrayed by the left as Uncle Tom.

Having N*head into the 1980s is insensitive. The times had long changed by then.

haner on October 2, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Nobody likes the rock. That’s not the frigging point. It’s using something that has nothing tangible to do with Perry to connect him to something vile and despicable.

He is NOT a racist because of some rock in the landscape – the same kind of rock that has appeared in about five other states.

This is unbelievable. To those who are part of this: Shame on you all, and shame on Herman Cain.

Disgusting.

capitalist piglet on October 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM

There’s nothing “elitist” about wanting the Governor of Texas who’s running for POTUS not making all of Texas look like it’s full of bigoted rednecks.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM

By painting over and turning over a rock with an offensive epithet? Sound like he was trying not to make it look like he condoned “rednecks.”

By the way, “redneck” is itself an offensive term. It refers to those who make their living outdoors, like farmers. My uncle was a redneck for decades – he was a farmer for years before there were tractors with cabs on them. Every fall after harvest, he had a very red neck from sunburn due to ten hour days in the fields.

Maybe your “country cousins” didn’t tell you this,

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM

I wonder what Perry was to have done. Changed the name of a place he didn’t own? Paint over the rock earlier?
Paul-Cincy on October 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Call me a racist or a stealth racist or whatever the charge of the week is, but the only thing I thought of is that he should not have painted over the rock. Seriously, I say that from an historical preservation perspective. He could have possibly taken it to a museum and asked the curator if it had any historical significance. After all, it is a part of our country’s past…however ugly it may be.

lynncgb on October 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM

If they could paint it over–which they did– they could conveniently “break it” and go “Oops.”
Then propose to the owner that he name it something else.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM

How big is this rock, and why are you suggesting they destroy landowner’s property? They would be liable for damages to the landowner.

At least crr6 knew a bit of law.

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 3:01 PM

This is unbelievable. To those who are part of this: Shame on you all, and shame on Herman Cain.

Disgusting.

capitalist piglet on October 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM

And this too.

lynncgb on October 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM

…Sarah Palin must be soooo proud that you’re one of her most ardent ….
annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM

AND in the wrong thread. The Cain Response headline thread is where the Palin addicted fools are congregating. That Thread quit being about either Cain or Perry three pages ago.

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Same thing with Perry… I think it was racist to paint the rock over. What is it with denying black history? Hell, some day a millionaire rap artist will wish he could find that rock to buy and put in front of his place in LA.
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RalphyBoy on October 2, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Call me a racist or a stealth racist or whatever the charge of the week is, but the only thing I thought of is that he should not have painted over the rock. Seriously, I say that from an historical preservation perspective. He could have possibly taken it to a museum and asked the curator if it had any historical significance. After all, it is a part of our country’s past…however ugly it may be.

lynncgb on October 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM

I hadn’t thought of this. In all honesty, you both have a good point. Whoopi Goldberg has a collection of signs and such from Jim Crow era. It struck me as odd, but it works for her. And here in Cincinnati we have the “Underground Railroad Freedom Museum” (which I’ve not been to) which I understand has all kinds of relics from that era. It’s not exactly the Taliban blowing up the Buddha statues, but, really, I see your point. I do. Never thought of it like that.

Paul-Cincy on October 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

More personal attacks from you.
*yawn* Zzzzz.
There’s nothing “elitist” about wanting the Governor of Texas who’s running for POTUS not making all of Texas look like it’s full of bigoted rednecks.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:52 PM

I agree with you about the personal attacks, but Perry is in no way to blame for this, and the tack you are taking on it really does make you look petty, desperate, and foolish. This is nothing but an MSM smear. Period, end of “story.”

JannyMae on October 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Clearly, the outrageous lengths you Perry supporters will go to making excuses for him makes Palin supporters look like reasonable, reasoned citizens, which we are.

Keep covering for Perry.
He’s going to need you.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Clearly, the outrageous lengths you Perry supporters will go to making excuses for him makes Palin supporters look like reasonable, reasoned citizens, which we are.

Keep covering for Perry.
He’s going to need you.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Perry should run on his record – accurately presented – whatever it is.

WaPo put a biased story on the front page, above the fold, in the Sunday edition. And this inaccurate story will get retold and retold as “fact,” which apparently Wallace did on Fox News, and Cain responded as if it was fact.

Wethal on October 2, 2011 at 3:09 PM

AND in the wrong thread. The Cain Response headline thread is where the Palin addicted fools are congregating. That Thread quit being about either Cain or Perry three pages ago.

LegendHasIt on October 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM

I know it’s inconvenient for you, but that door swings both ways, particularly in that thread. :)

JannyMae on October 2, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Because I won’t defend Perry when he’s exposed as a redneck?
Shocker.
He is a redneck, you know, at least in attitude.
But he’s never had a real red neck due to doing any work.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Uhhhh no…. actually it was your adamant refusal to believe that the “racially insensitive label painted on a rock 30 years ago” was a common geographical label …… EVER…. in the US.

Koa on October 2, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Clearly, the outrageous lengths you Perry supporters will go to making excuses for him makes Palin supporters look like reasonable, reasoned citizens, which we are.

Keep covering for Perry.
He’s going to need you.

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

I’m a Palinista to the core. Don’t know much about Perry. But this is nothing but a smear.

Paul-Cincy on October 2, 2011 at 3:11 PM

silvernana on October 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Nice to see you again. Hope things are going better health wise.

I pulled muscles in my back and my bro in law did the same in his neck lifting boxes from a delivery truck. Ouch!

Sarah Palin may be right when she said this election would be Unconventional:-)

bluefox on October 2, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Jenfidel on October 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

I am a Palin supporter. I am not “covering for Perry.” I’m pointing out the truth. Too bad you’re too stubborn to see it.

JannyMae on October 2, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Jenfidel, you know you’ve hit rock bottom when you’re not even civil enough to be accepted by the Other supporters.

(Ducks and covers, I know, I asked for it)

MJBrutus on October 2, 2011 at 3:15 PM

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