Friday night F&F document dump shows “extensive” communication with White House

posted at 9:15 am on October 1, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

When a White House dumps documents late on a Friday, it’s not because they aren’t newsworthy.  It’s usually because they’re embarrassing, or potentially incriminating.  Yesterday we got an almost perfect example of the art when the Obama administration finally released selected documents on the Fast & Furious scandal that prove “extensive” communications between the ATF’s field office and the White House on the deadly project:

Late Friday, the White House turned over new documents in the Congressional investigation into the ATF “Fast and Furious” gunwalking scandal.

The documents show extensive communications between then-ATF Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office Bill Newell – who led Fast and Furious – and then-White House National Security Staffer Kevin O’Reilly. Emails indicate the two also spoke on the phone. Such detailed, direct communications between a local ATF manager in Phoenix and a White House national security staffer has raised interest among Congressional investigators looking into Fast and Furious. Newell has said he and O’Reilly are long time friends. …

Among the documents produced: an email in which ATF’s Newell sent the White House’s O’Reilly an “arrow chart reflecting the ultimate destination of firearms we intercepted and/or where the guns ended up.” The chart shows arrows leading from Arizona to destinations all over Mexico.

In response, O’Reilly wrote on Sept. 3, 2010 “The arrow chart is really interesting – and – no surprise – implies at least that different (Drug Trafficking Organizations) in Mexico have very different and geographically distinct networks in the US for acquiring guns. Did last year’s TX effort develop a similar graphic?”

In other words, the White House knew that the guns had gone over the border, and treated it like an academic exercise.  O’Reilly apparently never asked in his capacity as a national security adviser, “What the hell were you thinking in allowing the guns to get across the border?”  Instead, O’Reilly wondered if a similar operation in Texas produced a cool map, too.

It sounds as if the Obama administration was on board the idea to allow guns to transit the border, and at the very least shows that no one can claim surprise at the outcome.  The White House’s lawyer tried to spin it anyway, writing to the Oversight Committee that “none of the communications between ATF and the White House revealed the investigative law enforcement tactics at issue in your inquiry, let alone any decision to allow guns to ‘walk.’”  That may be true — at least as far the documents the White House released, but that’s not all of the communications:

However, the chief counsel to President Barack Obama, Kathryn Ruemmler, indicated that the White House was withholding an unspecified number of internal e-mails exchanged among three National Security Staff aides.

“These internal NSS emails are not included in the enclosed documents because the [Executive Office of the President] has significant confidentiality interests in its internal communications,” Ruemmler wrote in a letter to House Oversight & Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). The letter, posted here, was obtained Friday by POLITICO.

The latest batch of 102 pages of records partially duplicated information previously sent to Congress and didn’t appear to include any smoking guns showing that White House officials were aware that the operation involved allowing hundreds or thousands of guns to flow essentially unimpeded from the U.S. to Mexican drug cartels.

This is rather amusing.  Three years ago, a Democratic House sued to get Karl Rove and Harriet Miers to testify over the termination of US Attorneys, who are political appointments that serve at the pleasure of the President, and rejected the notion that executive privilege applied to such executive-branch personnel decisions.  Now we have an ATF operation that armed drug cartels and resulted in hundreds of murders from guns supplied by the US government, including the murder of a Border Patrol agent here in the US — and Democrats think that should be covered by executive privilege.

Something stinks at the White House, and the lawyers are circling the wagons to keep Congress from finding it.

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Dems, 2012!!

Key West Reader on October 1, 2011 at 11:19 AM

“Something stinks at the White House…”

… and it’s the kind of stink you can’t wash off.

Seven Percent Solution on October 1, 2011 at 11:23 AM

But the Administration informed them that O’Reilly is on assignment for the State Department in Iraq and unavailable.

And what do you want to bet there’s at least 5 IED’s with his name on them, along with a couple “accidents” waiting to happen?

katablog.com on October 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM

rockmom on October 1, 2011 at 10:40 AM

For now, I have to disagree on one person. Holder! I firmly believe he not only knew about this from the beginning, but that he was one of the architects of it.

He’s being protected right now, and not thrown under the bus for one reason. If he is, he’ll sing like a canary. He knows way to much, that could damage way to many people. Including Obama. So until Obama can safely cover his arse, Holder will be protected. If, they can somehow find a way to hang Holder, and keep Obama clean…then, and only then will Holder go under that bus!!

capejasmine on October 1, 2011 at 11:26 AM

don’t worry the sounds that you hear emanating from DC is the sudden clatter of folks rapidly defecating small felines…

ted c on October 1, 2011 at 10:22 AM

I’m betting that giant FLUSH you hear has some shredded papers in it.

katablog.com on October 1, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Something stinks at the White House, and the lawyers are circling the wagons to keep Congress from finding it.

A no account B & E of the Watergate sent several Nixon aids to jail and eventually led to his resignation but the death’s of 100′s by allowing illegal weapons to cross the border is ho-hum. I get it only things Republicans do are bad and deserve punishment. We have lost the concept of Lex Rex in this country and it won’t end well.

chemman on October 1, 2011 at 11:33 AM

He’s being protected right now, and not thrown under the bus for one reason. If he is, he’ll sing like a canary. He knows way to much, that could damage way to many people. Including Obama.

No doubt about it.

katablog.com on October 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM

Nice post, Ed, especially this:

In other words, the White House knew that the guns had gone over the border, and treated it like an academic exercise. O’Reilly apparently never asked in his capacity as a national security adviser, “What the hell were you thinking in allowing the guns to get across the border?” Instead, O’Reilly wondered if a similar operation in Texas produced a cool map, too.

and this:

This is rather amusing. Three years ago, a Democratic House sued to get Karl Rove and Harriet Miers to testify over the termination of US Attorneys, who are political appointments that serve at the pleasure of the President, and rejected the notion that executive privilege applied to such executive-branch personnel decisions. Now we have an ATF operation that armed drug cartels and resulted in hundreds of murders from guns supplied by the US government, including the murder of a Border Patrol agent here in the US — and Democrats think that should be covered by executive privilege.

Excellent points, both.

Dusty on October 1, 2011 at 11:38 AM

OK, a suggestion looking to the future: presumably an outgoing Obama is going to pardon a whole bunch of people for anything they ‘might’ have done while serving in his administration. The incoming Republican president-elect should announce that his/her administration will make a special effort to assist the Mexican government to extradite such pardoned people, should the Mexican government choose to charge them.

Let’s see then how many choose to make a plea-bargain with US prosecutors instead of accepting a pardon, if accepting the pardon risks time in a Mexican prison instead of a US one.

PersonFromPorlock on October 1, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Isn’t Mexico still pressing the WH for an explanation? Haven’t seen anything on that in a bit.

mimi1220 on October 1, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Executive privilege cannot be used to cover evidence of a crime.

Not surprised about the Attorney General.

Maybe we should call him Eric With-Holder.

gordo on October 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM

novaculus on October 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

If it reaches that point prior to the 2012 election the pubs will allow them to pull a Nixon. That is, resign and the temporary President will issue pardons to all cabinet level and above involved. The underlings will be the only ones to see wrong side of the jail bars.

chemman on October 1, 2011 at 11:50 AM

The definition of amateurish, incompetence. They have been reading too many spy novels.

ultracon on October 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Issa press conference to express “concern” in 5…..4….

Followed by crickets chirping.

Issa TALKS bigga than he walks.

PappyD61 on October 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM

My money is on Newell to squeal first. If not him, word is that Dennis Burke is nearing a breakdown, physically and mentally.

novaculus on October 1, 2011 at 11:01 AM

He was an obaka pick(burke) and after he was in place the program began. Burke was the pivot man for sure.Oh ya, he worked for Napolitano for years, so big sis is also deep in this. From my seat I can see obaka and holder running the operation through operatives,newell, burke, melson and others who can’t connect the dots, but someone can I hope Issa finds the “one”.

tim c on October 1, 2011 at 12:02 PM

What is the chain of command in this case? Napolitano, originally Gov of Az, and her former aides appear to be involved.

Vince on October 1, 2011 at 12:03 PM

PappyD61 on October 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM

I agree that Issa could be pursuing the story with more vigor.

This is the biggest story of the decade, that will rock the foundations of America, and hardly anyone knows about it. Issa should be having news conferences every night, which would force the MSM to cover it. He should be charging uncooperative witnesses with perjury and contempt charges, he should be sending SWAT teams to recover subpoenaed documents.

Rebar on October 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM

That’s nice to dream about, but if it were true I think Holder would have been thrown under the bus weeks ago. I think it is more likely that this was an Ollie North-style thing run by Newell without direct approval by Holder, Napolitano, Panetta, or Obama. They are all scrambling now to try to find a way to minimize the damage. If I am right, it will be a monumental disaster for Obama precisely because of the resemblance to Iran-Contra.

We need to know more about Newell and how he got his job in the White House.

rockmom on October 1, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Mom, Newell wasn’t in the White House. He was the BATFE Special Agent In Charge (SAC) in Phoenix. The op was run out of the Phoenix US Attorney’s office to circumvent the regular BATFE chain of command. The criminals behind this conspiracy understood that someone in the regular BATFE chain of command would have blown the whistle, so they had to go around them. No doubt Newell was given some assurances of protection in order to get his cooperation in the conspiracy to commit federal felonies.

I said in an earlier post the framework here mirrors a common form of corruption. To bend and office or agency’s resources to corrupt ends, you don’t try to corrupt the whole office. You just have the people at the top, someone directly below to act as a buffer, and someone at the bottom to doe the dirty work. That is exactly what went down here, as they bypassed the BATFE chain of command and ran the op out of the US Attorney’s office. Dennis Burke, the US Attorney, was Gov. Napolitano’s chief of staff and a senior aide to her at HS before he got the plum US Attorney’s appointment.

Obama can’t throw Holder under the bus, because Holder can implicate him and everyone else. They all know they must hang together or they will all hang separately. Unfortunately, someone further down the chain of corruption will certainly realize the advantage of being the first to flip and squeal, and take it.

novaculus on October 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM

If we can’t get a special prosecutor after this Issa is a failure

clement on October 1, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Is it time to demand a special prosecutor?

The whole exercise of “Fast and Furious” smacks of an under-the-radar attempt to undermine our Second Amendment rights. It appears to be a subversion from within our own government.

onlineanalyst on October 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Crass and spurious strikes again.

burt on October 1, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Is it time to demand a special prosecutor?

The whole exercise of “Fast and Furious” smacks of an under-the-radar attempt to undermine our Second Amendment rights. It appears to be a subversion from within our own government.

onlineanalyst on October 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM

To say the least. Grow some ‘nads Congress.

Mr. Grump on October 1, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Frog Marching.

Now that’s some green energy I could get behind.

RUSH? If you steal this comment, you better mention Hot Air. Thank you.

Key West Reader on October 1, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Pass the Windex, please…

ladyingray on October 1, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Mr. Grump on October 1, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Besides the fact that as a collective, they don’t have any…..why is there not somebody, who could benefit from this scandal, shouting about this?
It goes back to the question about the Republican debates. Why is no one making the most of this yet?
Are they scared? or is involvement wider than the WH?

ORconservative on October 1, 2011 at 12:29 PM

When will the Republicans learn that if they don’t raise their voices in unity to call attention to a scandal like this, the media will continue to sweep it under the rug? It shouldn’t just be up to Issa to do this.

Imagine if the roles were reversed and it was the Republicans that were on the hotseat. The media would be all of over this, which would give the Democrats cover to stay above the fray by saying “we don’t want to comment yet until all the facts have come out”. Does anyone here think that they wouldn’t be piling on?

Instead, we have the Democrats on the hotseat, the media downplaying it, and Republicans just sit there like complete idiots and do nothing to raise awareness about this in response to media stonewalling.

I really hope that the Tea Party mentality isn’t going to just be about fighting the status quo in Washington. If we want real change, we need people who aren’t cowering under their beds, scared to death of Joy Behar and Jon Stewart.

ardenenoch on October 1, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Is it time to demand a special prosecutor?

The whole exercise of “Fast and Furious” smacks of an under-the-radar attempt to undermine our Second Amendment rights. It appears to be a subversion from within our own government.

onlineanalyst on October 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Issa has said he will not seek appointment of a Special Prosecutor until the congressional investigation is finished. He is right to fear interference with the congressional investigation if a Special Prosecutor is appointed before then.

As for the apparently slow pace of the investigation, I think Issa and Grassley are doing it right. They aren’t getting ahead of themselves, and they are setting traps by not showing their cards. Every excuse and denial so far has been met with the release of further information that blows it up, O’Keefe/Breitbart style.

They are slowly raising the temperature on this pot of frogs. We’ll see how many jump out of the pot before the rest get boiled.

novaculus on October 1, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Weenies are afraid to weed out SINGLE whitleblowers .. Waaay too obvious….
Soooo, let’s try THIS … Surely it will look good to the right, right ??
Cutting waste and all that.. Yeah, that’s the ticket !!!

Let’s just kill the enitre ATF !!

pambi on October 1, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Murdergate.

The Obama Administration’s criminal incompetence begins to get notice.

profitsbeard on October 1, 2011 at 12:59 PM

To hell with a special prosecutor. Break out the articles of impeachment!

The pretender has pulled this stunt in Arizona, Tampa Florida, Pennsylvania, and the new document dump mentions a “Texas Operation”

This administration is filled with criminals from the top down!

Has anyone wondered why the FBI raided Solyndra so quickly?

Could it just be to give the Solyndra execs the cover they needed to take the fifth?

“Gee, we’re under investigation. We can’t testify without implicating ourselves.”

Meanwhile a former administration “Czar” and admitted communist is threatening to overthrow the US in an arab spring type uprising.

CRIMINALS ALL!

MaaddMaaxx on October 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM


Something stinks at the White House…”
… and it’s the kind of stink you can’t wash off.

Seven Percent Solution on October 1, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Let’s get Nancy “The Swamp Drainer” Pelosi on this this right way. That should help keep the stench down some.

/Sarc – And that’s all I got for this bunch!

JohnnyD on October 1, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Issa has said he will not seek appointment of a Special Prosecutor until the congressional investigation is finished. He is right to fear interference with the congressional investigation if a Special Prosecutor is appointed before then.

[novaculus on October 1, 2011 at 12:41 PM]

Yeah, my understanding is that appointing a SP would mean Congressional investigation of it would have to stop. I don’t know about SP appointment process except that Obama would appoint one. I suppose it’s a nomination that would have to receive approval by Congress, but I’m not sure of that. If it did, though, it would be probably be Senate approval, not the House, so where does that leave it?

I think I’d rather Congressional investigation continue until the road is clear and the last stonewall is hit, just to make sure the SP doesn’t take a detour or Sunday drive.

Dusty on October 1, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Issa has said he will not seek appointment of a Special Prosecutor until the congressional investigation is finished. He is right to fear interference with the congressional investigation if a Special Prosecutor is appointed before then.

As for the apparently slow pace of the investigation, I think Issa and Grassley are doing it right. They aren’t getting ahead of themselves, and they are setting traps by not showing their cards. Every excuse and denial so far has been met with the release of further information that blows it up, O’Keefe/Breitbart style.

They are slowly raising the temperature on this pot of frogs. We’ll see how many jump out of the pot before the rest get boiled.

novaculus on October 1, 2011 at 12:41 PM

I see the merit in what you are saying and also in your prior remarks.

The O administration has to be quaking in its boots in not knowing how exactly much has been uncovered. Is it whistling past the graveyard, hoping that the issue blows over before it blows up?

onlineanalyst on October 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Hmmmm. “Did last year’s TX effort develop a similar graphic?”
California? New Mexico? Florida?

pat on October 1, 2011 at 1:17 PM

…treated it like an academic exercise.

just like It’s entire presidency- an ill conceived, chaotic academic exercise undertaken by solid D students, the cream of affirmative action academia’s blighted crop, the not ready for prime time black panther/weather underground/ stalin-leninist players.

stalin murdered up to 10 million people through an engineered famine and campaign of terror in order to break the peasantry that refused to submit. 10 million dead- and uncle joe, dear father, didn’t lose sleep over it. who thinks these malignant fools are bothered a bit by any of this save if it happens to break through the crack mist of denial the media has blown about prince obama and threatens their power?

mittens on October 1, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Instead, O’Reilly wondered if a similar operation in Texas produced a cool map, too.

Chilling. The border is under assault by narco-terrorists, and we arm them. And most of the GOP are worried about work-seekers. Almost equally appalling.

AshleyTKing on October 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM

I agree that Issa could be pursuing the story with more vigor.

This is the biggest story of the decade, that will rock the foundations of America, and hardly anyone knows about it. Issa should be having news conferences every night, which would force the MSM to cover it. He should be charging uncooperative witnesses with perjury and contempt charges, he should be sending SWAT teams to recover subpoenaed documents.

Rebar on October 1, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Can’t happen that way. Congressional investigations depend on the idiot Holder himself for enforcement of subpoenas, arrests and charges, and any boots on the ground action.

Holder is laughing at Issa, because he knows the last thing little Bammie will do is sign a raft of presidential pardons for Holder and Nappie and all their goons. An interesting option might be charges at the state level.

slickwillie2001 on October 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

LMAO….

The arrow chart has both the ATF and DOJ seals at the top of the page.

Notice also…Every friggin’ one of those guns went SOUTH accross the border.

Tim_CA on October 1, 2011 at 7:14 PM

It is clear that ATF enforcement agents were sent on an intelligence operation to produce a stinking intelligence flow chart showing guns going into Mexico. That was the goal-to prove a point that so many US guns were going into Mexico. In the real world, higher ups in Washington would be interested in how much contraband was seized. Why not here? Clearly, this scheme had its roots in Washington-not Phoenix.

gary Fouse
DEA retired

gary fouse on October 1, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Remember the meme, it’s ALL America’s fault, they are the ones that are buying the drugs, then American guns are going down to Mexico.. Haven’t heard that in awhile now have we.. Good going media, they must have been in on it to, getting their talking pts from the WH.
Such frauds, remember also how many times the left has accused Fox News of getting talking pts from GWB’s WH.. They are so lame, such jokes..

reshas1 on October 1, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Except that no mention of the “drugs” is ever heard.

One of the major disconnects in “progressive” dogmas is that since drugs are considered to be fun and good for you, the connection between using drugs, paying criminals for drugs, and what the criminals do with the money from drugs is never made.

In “progressive” logic, “narco-terrorism” is a null phrase, because if it’s “narco”, it has to be “good”. Note how fast the fact that the Taliban, etc., were and are serious dealers in opium (the base for heroin) suddenly “disappeared” after The One took office.

Ditto the connection between the drug cartels in Central America and (surprise) various Islamist groups, who use them as a source of laundered U.S. currency. Because that money got to them by selling drugs in the U.S.- but since it came from “good, sensitive, caring people” (i.e., progressive types who like getting high), we just don’t talk about it.

At no point in the whole “U.S. guns are killing people in Mexico” meme’ from The One, Hillary, Calderon’, et al., was any mention made of why the cartels were in business. In their mental universe, they were just happy-go-lucky farmers until they were seduced by evil American guns and suddenly, like werewolves at the full moon, turned into savage, psychotic killers.

I strongly suspect that this whole affair was intended to raise the violence level so high in Mexico that The One would be “forced” to step in, by doing something like re-imposing the Assault Weapon Ban, or a “one gun a month” law, or a “must show need/legitimate use” statute, by Executive Order.

And when the violence south of the border continued anyway, demand the repeal of the Second Amendment.

Yes, it’s crazy. But when was the last time The One, and His minions, showed any evidence of even minimal contact with reality?

Never forget that just because an idea is crazy, it in no way prevents someone from believing in it. (Example- UFO “abductions”.)

And if that someone has political power, the end result can be policies that have no relation to the real world, and are driven solely by the “believer’s” dreams. And delusions.

/Just needed to be said.

clear ether

eon

eon on October 1, 2011 at 8:01 PM

I would be terrified if I were oreilly in iraq! Can you imagine a terrorist attack on his convoy? I hope he’s left a tape just in case……

Bambi on October 1, 2011 at 10:10 PM

With all these departments involved obama has to be up to his eye balls in it! Maybe he is holding out until van jones can unleash the “arab spring” in America. Then we’ll all be concerned with that mess, and give this a pass. What a mess this is!

Bambi on October 1, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Was F&F part of the solution, or part of the problem with this story.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/01/2-powerful-cartels-dominate-in-mexico-drug-war/?test=latestnews

what a way to treat a neighbor….Arm drug cartels to the teeth for a civil war.

smart *ahem* powahhh!

ted c on October 2, 2011 at 7:55 AM

Pamela Geller has had enough….

White House quietly releases new documents on secret gun-running operation…

Reveal extensive communications between WH and agent in charge…

Still withholding…

These are Drudge headlines. The government is running and selling guns to Mexican drug cartels. This is not a new story. This is just the latest. Where are the Congressional hearings on this and the ongoing Solyndra solar scandal, both criminal? Why is there no call for a special prosecutor and impeachment? We don’t need any more revelations. This makes Nixon and Watergate look like a prank. The Republican party, timid and weak, has failed us.

This is, without any doubt, the most criminal administration ever in America. (hat tip Van)

ted c on October 2, 2011 at 7:59 AM

Isn’t it clear what was going on? At the behest of elements of the Mexican government, the US was arming the Sinaloa cartel against the Zetas. The Mexicans are in bed with the Sinaloa cartel because it’s their best chance to stave off a complete takeover by the Zetas (who are much nastier than Sinaloa, for the record). Even with the help, the Zetas are still winning, and they’re winning big.

Shivv on October 2, 2011 at 8:33 AM

Eric With-Holder!!

gullxn on October 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Can I ask the question that Ed rightly says National Security Staffer Kevin O’Reilly should have asked ATF Speical Agent Bill Newell: “What the hell were you thinking in allowing the guns to get across the border?”

Phil Byler on October 2, 2011 at 6:32 PM

“…There is a cancer upon the Presidency…”

Another Drew on October 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM

“…Why is there no call for a special prosecutor and impeachment?..”

Because that brings back haunting memories of MonicaGate.
All the GOP has to do is just play out the string, letting the dumbies twist in the wind destroying what little credibility that still remains within this Administration; which will lead to a public humiliation at the polls in November, 2012 for Obama & Co.

Another Drew on October 2, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Another Drew on October 2, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Also, a Special Prosecutor would be;

1. Nominated by the Attorney General (Eric Holder): and

2. Confirmed (or not) by the U.S. Senate, controlled by the Democrats, specifically Harry Reid & Co.

Once an SP is appointed, the Congressional investigation would have to cease, to avoid “interference”. And I seriously doubt that Representative Issa (who, last time I looked, wasn’t an idiot) seriously believes that any Special Prosecutor appointed by Holder, and approved by the Senate Democratic Caucus (which is what their majority amounts to) would do anything but assist in the whitewash any way he could.

You’d have a better chance of getting the Chicago DA’s office to investigate itself. Without your witnesses ending up in 55-gallon drums full of concrete in Lake Michigan.

clear ether

eon

eon on October 2, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Three years ago, a Democratic House sued to get Karl Rove and Harriet Miers to testify over the termination of US Attorneys, who are political appointments that serve at the pleasure of the President, and rejected the notion that executive privilege applied to such executive-branch personnel decisions.

Ah, yes, truly one of the most outrageously outrageous outrage until everything that has happened since 01/20/2009.

Knott Buyinit on October 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/

ted c on October 2, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Somehow I don’t think Congress is going to look very hard.

TimBuk3 on October 3, 2011 at 10:33 PM

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