Limbaugh: Why aren’t they begging Rubio to run?

posted at 4:10 pm on September 30, 2011 by Tina Korbe

While Michael Reagan and Newt Gingrich plead with Republicans to cut each other some slack, Rush Limbaugh is in a camp with Michele Bachmann and others who believe the GOP doesn’t have to settle for a less-than-completely-conservative candidate in 2012. On his program yesterday, the radio talker reiterated that position — and cited the Republican establishment’s lack of demands for a Marco Rubio candidacy as evidence that Republican operatives are more concerned with electability than conservatism at a time when it should be the other way around:

Let me ask you, why do you think they’re not begging Rubio to run?  Rubio has been just as adamant as Christie that he doesn’t want to run.  In a contest of conservatism, Rubio wins versus Christie.  So why are they not asking Rubio to run? …

Part of it is, I think, that they genuinely believe that whoever the other nominees are can’t win.  That’s another thing that frosts me.  I think Bugs Bunny, Elmer Fudd could beat Obama in this election coming up because I think this is going to largely be about Obama.  It’s going to be a referendum on his outright destruction of the wealth-creating genius of this country.  I think Elmer Fudd could win, but I’m more concerned than that.  I don’t want to just get rid of Obama, I want to take advantage of the opportunity we have to finally get a genuine, full-fledged, unapologetic conservative because this is going to be a major task … rolling this stuff back.  It’s going to take more than one election, and it’s going to take somebody fearless.  And we’re not going to roll this stuff back having compromise and bipartisanship as our primary objectives. …

But Rubio, Rubio would win in a walkover.  He’s conservative.  He’s articulate.  He’s great-looking.  He’s Hispanic and sounds very smart.  How can he possibly lose?  If this were the Democrat Party, the party father would probably tell Obama to step aside and let Rubio run, if Rubio were a Democrat.  There are more Hispanic voters now than there are blacks, and Rubio’s got more experience than Obama had when he decided to run.  I don’t know how many times Rubio has voted “present” versus Obama. …

Anyway, look, the reason why they’re not pushing Rubio… I’m going to answer my own question. That’s what I do. I ask myself the best questions I’m ever asked and, therefore, I give the best answers. They’re not pushing Rubio because while they praise him, they don’t think he has had enough experience yet.

And Rubio is — sorry to say this, folks — another example of the RINOs being wrong.

Is it too soon for Rubio to run? As Rush points out, Rubio has more experience than Obama did. Detractors of candidates like Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain repeatedly cite Obama’s inexperience as a reason to not select as the GOP nominee anyone without a meaningful legislative or executive political record. But isn’t that pinning the blame on the wrong part of Obama’s persona? Does the country feel burned for electing a glib, inexperienced senator — or does the country feel burned for electing a professorial progressive? I think it’s the latter — and Rubio, while inexperienced and eloquent, is neither professorial nor progressive. He’s a compelling, relatable, hard-working conservative. He’s someone I actually want to be the president — not just someone I’d rather have as president than Obama. And he’s not someone I want to waste on the vice presidential position, all conventional wisdom right now to the contrary.

It’s clear we can’t afford another four years of Obama. But can we afford four or eight years of a Republican president who might hold the line on government spending but won’t aggressively reverse the problematic progressive gains of the past four years? Four or eight years of that until Rubio is “seasoned” enough to be the president?

Maybe. Rush hasn’t quite convinced me. I want a conservative candidate in 2012 — but I want the best possible Rubio if and when he does become president someday down the line. And, for that, I think a few more years won’t hurt. Reagan’s age was surely an asset in the presidency, enabling him to keep in perspective what might panic younger politicians. It doesn’t have anything to do with political experience; it has to do with life experience and the wisdom that comes with it. Rush has gotten better and better and better over time — and so will Rubio. If even Elmer Fudd could win in 2012, let’s not encourage Rubio to waste his talents on a throwaway election (or in a throwaway position like the vice presidency). Let’s wait for him to run when he’s ready. That time, whenever it is, will be the Age of Rubio.


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If Marco Rubio is ever on a ballot I can vote on, he’s getting my vote. It doesn’t matter what office it’s for, or who’s running against him.

I can’t say that about anyone else.

hawksruleva on September 30, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Either we win by landslide or we lose. If Obama polls within 5 points of the Republican candidate in the weeks prior to the election, then he and his people would be able to steal the election. They can’t do it if the margin is implausibly wide.

troyriser_gopftw on September 30, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Being a realist, I agree. I think the Voters and the Republican Party are underestimating the enemy. They would be wise to be taking the necessary precautions against fraud.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 5:18 PM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 4:24 PM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Equal opportunity birther InkyBinkyBarleyBoo. Let’s just stop you before you spout off with one more discredited item you read in a forwarded email from your Aunt Mabel.

Marco Rubio was born in the United States of America. He has been a citizen from birth. He was naturally born a U.S. Citizen. He did not have to be naturalized (i.e. go through some process to convert his citizenship from an alternative nationality to U.S. citizenship). Those are the only two options: Citizen from Birth (Natural Born Citizen) or naturalized citizen.

“Naturally Born _____” in our English language means having ____ quality from birth. In common parlance we call some one a “natural born killer”, “natural born ballplayer”, or “natural born …lollipop… sucker” to communicate the understanding that they have had that quality since birth. I’ve never seen anyone ask if Babe Ruth’s parents could both play baseball before agreeing that he was a “Natural Born Ballplayer”. Likewise, the expresspion “natural born citizen” means having the quality of citizenship since birth. Marco Rubio has had the quality (U.S. Citizenship) since birth, thus he is a natural born citizen.

You cite DeVattel’s use of the phrase “natural born citizen” as the source of the phrase. You fail to note that the 1758 edition of his book was only available in French. Therefore “Natural born citizen” did not appear in this book because it was in French. The english translation containing the phrase wasn’t published until the early 1800′s, several decades after the constitution was written.

Furthermore, even in DeVattel’s french edition, the french equivalent phrase “‎naturelles citoyen né” does not appear anywhere in the French Version. Therefore, your argument that DeVattel’s use of “natural born citizen” and his defition is what is meant by the constitution is invalid because he didn’t use that phrase.

Minor vs Happersett does not support your argument. In fact Minor v. Happersett supports the fact that there are only 2 types of citizens: natural born citizen and naturalized citizen. “Additions might always be made to the citizenship of the United States in two ways: first, by birth, and second, by naturalization.” If you have not been naturalized, and you are a citizen then you must be a natural born citizen under the express language in Minor V. Happersett.

New_Jersey_Buckeye on September 30, 2011 at 5:19 PM

A Purist is any Conservative who’s won an argument with a Repubic.

When they start throwing “Purist!” around, they’re admitting they’ve lost and have no other arguments and can do nothing else but play the Woodyanalyzed Passive-Aggressive.

sartana on September 30, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Everyone and their mother are RINOs to the ivory tower purists.

mythicknight on September 30, 2011 at 4:58 PM

That’s EXACTLY what a RINO would say.

RINO.

portlandon on September 30, 2011 at 5:24 PM

New_Jersey_Buckeye on September 30, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Both Washington and Jefferson had copies of Vattel’s book. One (I think it was Washington) checked out from the NYC library and the other his own copy.
You have already got Obama.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Fair point. Shouldn’t we, as conservatives who value service from our elected representatives after we worked to put them in office, hope that they complete at least one term before running for president? Didn’t we give Obama plenty of hell about his fresh status in the Senate?

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 5:07 PM

True. On the other hand, aren’t we also calling for term limits and decrying the influence of lobbyists on career politicians? Rubio has not yet spent years in Washington being showered with gifts and favors by special interest groups. Maybe that makes him a better candidate.

hawksruleva on September 30, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Rubio thinks very highly of the Libyan “Rebels”. Maybe they also admire him (at least admire his admiring them so much) and will make him Libya’s new President.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Inky:

There isn’t an “easy” button some court is going to push to make all of the acts of the 0bama Administration illegitimate and illegal because his dad was a foreigner. And attacking Rubio is not going to make that fictional court push that fictional “easy” button. It’s going to take the American people being a frakload more careful about hitting the polling booth from here on out—in which case, 0bama was a hard lesson we all had to learn.

Sekhmet on September 30, 2011 at 5:32 PM

That’s EXACTLY what a RINO would say.

RINO.

portlandon on September 30, 2011 at 5:24 PM

I’m a RINO, you’re a RINO, he’s a RINO, she’s a RINO
Wouldn ya wannabea RINO too

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 5:34 PM

I love Rubio, but I have the same problem with him as Obama…which is a little executive experience goes a long way. Rubio is infinitely smarter than Obama, but running an organization, state, or country is a different animal than being in the Senate.

Rubio for Veep…and 2020, if all goes well, President.

neoavatara on September 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM

If Rubio has any commitment to foundational principle, then he will NEVER run for President. Period. Why is Hotair posting articles that de facto advocate making war on the United States Constitution? Native born” means someone born on U.S soil. “Natural born” means born on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizen parents. If the Founding Fathers had meant “native born” they would have written “native born” in the U.S. Constitution, but they didn’t. They wrote: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” They specifically stated “natural born Citizen,” a term which all educated persons at the time knew meant, per the nomenclature of the time, born on U.S. soil to citizen parents..

Had the Founding Fathers meant that a president only had to have just been born on U.S. soil they would have written “No person except a native born Citizen shall be eligible to the Office of President”, but they didn’t. The United States Constitution was written in clear and concise terms by extremely intelligent and articulate men. To claim or act as if natural born means nothing more than born on U.S. soil assaults both the U.S. Constitution and the great intelligence of the Founding Fathers. That most Americans are poorly educated these days is no justification whatsoever for violating, or advocating violating, the United States Constitution..As for Hussein Obama, if somebody gets away with murder that does not mean that all murders should henceforth get a pass.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 5:37 PM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 5:37 PM

He’s an anchor baby! Send him back!

/sarc

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 5:38 PM

True. On the other hand, aren’t we also calling for term limits and decrying the influence of lobbyists on career politicians? Rubio has not yet spent years in Washington being showered with gifts and favors by special interest groups. Maybe that makes him a better candidate.

hawksruleva on September 30, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Bingo.

fossten on September 30, 2011 at 5:49 PM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Please cite sources to support your opinion…

ladyingray on September 30, 2011 at 5:53 PM

If even Elmer Fudd could win in 2012, let’s not encourage Rubio to waste his talents on a throwaway election (or in a throwaway position like the vice presidency).

While I do think it is too soon for Sen. Rubio, I don’t think this is a throwaway time of our country’s history and electing a moderate is less than appealing.

Cindy Munford on September 30, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Maybe because he’s been a senator for a mere 8 months? Sheesh.

Wanting him for VP is soon enough — at least by the time he’d be asked to join the ticket, he’d be senator for 18/19 months.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on September 30, 2011 at 5:59 PM

To that clown that thinks running the Florida House isn’t worthy of running for president… please. He knows the game and has the intangibles. The GOP needs to quit this “its my turn” rubbish and stop running candidates who put everyone to sleep.

Rubio would win big. You know this. You all do. Stop being scared, its ok to dismiss Mitt, Rick and the rest of the dullards.

spec_ops_mateo on September 30, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Wouldn’t the illegal immigration “purists” refuse to back Rubio because of his support for in-state tuition for kids of illegals?

Romney all the way…. death knell of the conservative movement.

TheRightMan on September 30, 2011 at 6:02 PM

What legislation has Rubio drafted and sponsored? I understand the GIMMEH RAND AND GIMMEH HIM NOW for Rand Paul, because he has Life at Conception bills, budgets, and shutdown prevention acts in his name that he is responsible for the drafing of– but what does Rubio really have other than less than a year in voting records?

RachDubya on September 30, 2011 at 6:31 PM

True. On the other hand, aren’t we also calling for term limits and decrying the influence of lobbyists on career politicians? Rubio has not yet spent years in Washington being showered with gifts and favors by special interest groups. Maybe that makes him a better candidate.

hawksruleva on September 30, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Where then, does the dividing line lie between “seasoning” and “free of establishment influence”?

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Wouldn’t the illegal immigration “purists” refuse to back Rubio because of his support for in-state tuition for kids of illegals?

Romney all the way…. death knell of the conservative movement.

TheRightMan on September 30, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Very true. So far, he’s getting a pass on this.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on September 30, 2011 at 6:37 PM

Could it be that Rubio’s parents were not born here nor were they naturalized when the Senator was born?

herdgadfly on September 30, 2011 at 6:55 PM

I could see a Cain/Rubio ticket sending the Dems into a complete meltdown.

SWLiP on September 30, 2011 at 4:24 PM

you know it!

balkanmom on September 30, 2011 at 6:57 PM

But isn’t that pinning the blame on the wrong part of Obama’s persona? Does the country feel burned for electing a glib, inexperienced senator — or does the country feel burned for electing a professorial progressive? I think it’s the latter…

Ummm….NO. The great middle of the country doesn’t care about ideology. Obama is not a professor, but a poser. And that’s why independents have stopped supporting him in droves.

Do you think people turned on Bush because he was conservative or liberal? No. It was the perception that he was grossly incompetent in running the war in Iraq, as well as the economy.

Politics isn’t rocket science.

BocaJuniors on September 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

It’s really too late to have this kind of debate. Even Perry’s team are scrambling to make all the necessary filings and declarations.

I’m sure Rubio has his own reasons for not running for the nomination or he would be running. Rubio has a solid future.

lexhamfox on September 30, 2011 at 7:27 PM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 5:37 PM

If you are incorrect, and Rubio can run, you would support him, yes?

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Although I think Rubio would be great he is not eligible because he is not a natural born citizen. Check it out. His parents were legal residents of the U.S. but not U.S. citizens when he was born. He is an American citizen by birth, however, he is not a natural born citizen.

globalrambler on September 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Although I think Rubio would be great he is not eligible because he is not a natural born citizen. Check it out. His parents were legal residents of the U.S. but not U.S. citizens when he was born. He is an American citizen by birth, however, he is not a natural born citizen.

globalrambler on September 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM

With respect, your reading of the law is correct in part, yet flawed in this instance. If Rubio had been born of non-citizen, legal residents who were from, say, Switzerland, he would be ineligible for the presidency.

But, his parents came from Cuba, and the laws related to their citizenship differ substantially from those from many other countries. Since all Cubans reaching our shores were back then (and are today) granted automatic political asylum, their legal date of citizenship is not the day they are ultimately sworn as citizens but it is effectively back-dated to the day their feet hit our shores. This has been the policy of our country since the concept of “political asylum” was recognized.

TXUS on September 30, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Rubio supports Perry on tuition for illegals so obviously he is disqualified….

/snark

tpw on September 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Glad you brought that up. Indeed, he co-sponsored such a bill.

And I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Voting for Perry if I get the chance, too.

capitalist piglet on September 30, 2011 at 9:14 PM

From my lips to Rush’s ears.

Been saying this for a long time — the way the GOP is headed, we’re a lock to defeat Obama in 2016.

Purple Fury on September 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

I’d like to see a presidential debate skit in which an Obama lookalike is debating a ham sandwich.

aunursa on September 30, 2011 at 4:20 PM

As funny as this is, even funnier would be that at this point, the ham sandwich would probably win the Jewish vote.

Left Coast Right Mind on September 30, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Natural born citizen means being born here and both parents are citizens. The term natural born is only used when determining eligibility for the Presidency of the United States so it doesn’t really matter in any other context than this one.

I would love Rubio to run, however it’s bad enough that the current occupant of the White House has now set precedent for future Presidents by illegally occupying the Office.

It is ridiculous to think that some anchor baby born in the parking lot of a Piggily Wiggily in Texas after their pregnant illegal alien mother falls over the border just in time to have the baby is eligible to be President? I think not. Their allegiance would not be totally with the United States since his or her mother is a Mexican national.

That’s the whole point.

jaimo on September 30, 2011 at 10:10 PM

I’m going to do everybody a favor and cut right through the BS. Marco Rubio is NOT eligible to be president or vice president of the United States. So the Limbaughs, Hannitys, and O’Reillys of this world need to get off that boat and start telling the people the facts. Read the “natural born citizen” section of the “Law of Nations” (1758) by Emmerich DeVattel which is where our Founders got the term “natural born citizen” that they used in the Constitution (1789). To my knowledge that term can NOT be found anywhere prior to it’s use in the Constitution except for it’s use in the “Law of Nations.” And there IS the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Minor vs Happersett (1874) that supports the DeVattel definition used in “Law of Nations.” So, Rubio is NOT eligible. Jindal is NOT eligible. And yes, that fella currently occupying the oval office in D.C. is NOT eligible either. His father was a British Subject at the time of Obama’s birth. NO need for a “birth certificate” debate on his eligibility, the birth certificate is a non-issue. Do your homework people. Obama was allowed to skate through and you see what its done. We can NOT allow anyone else to violate the law just because we happen to agree with their policies and viewpoints.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 30, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Natural Born merely means what it says… born naturally. I know its a very complicated concept but that is what it means. If the Constitution wanted certain offices restricted to those whose parents were both US citizens it would say that in the Constitution.

lexhamfox on September 30, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Maybe because he’s been a senator for a mere 8 months? Sheesh.

Wanting him for VP is soon enough — at least by the time he’d be asked to join the ticket, he’d be senator for 18/19 months.

-Aslan’s Girl

Agree 100%

We malign JJ, and rightly so, for being a back-bencher in office 9 days before starting his campaign for POTUS. I heard Rush on about this too and thought, while I love Rush and think Rubio has been great so far, that this is far too soon.

The guy needs some time, a few accomplishments in the Senate, and maybe a gray hair or two. Once done………let ‘er rip!

JoeinTX on September 30, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Republican operatives are more concerned with electability than conservatism at a time when it should be the other way around

Imagine that. They are more interested in getting someone elected than in trying to shove kool aid down everyone’s throat.

It’s a shocking development.

Moesart on September 30, 2011 at 11:45 PM

Right now my preferences are Cain, Gingrich, Perry, Santorum. In that order. Santorum and Rubio have a similar problem, no executive experience. Easily solved by a stint as VP.
Perry’s big problem is he’s being perceived as another principle-less pol like Romney. Christie’s problem is that he’s too liberal and if he decides to run, a flip-flopper.

Iblis on October 1, 2011 at 12:58 AM

Rubio will possibly be President – after serving a term or two as Governor of Florida after Scott leaves office. Brilliant young man, let him be properly seasoned. As of yet he has no executive or management experience.

Adjoran on October 1, 2011 at 6:19 AM

Limbaugh: Why aren’t they begging Rubio to run?

Because that would make them racist against hispanics, or something.

/Janine Godawfulho

stefanite on October 1, 2011 at 7:18 AM

If Obama is qualified to hold office then Rubio is as well. What’s the problem?

Richdellavalle on October 1, 2011 at 11:35 AM

@Richdellavalle

Technically correct to say that, but Rubio is still new just like Obama was and look what Obama’s lack of wisdom did to us. I LOVE Rubio as a possibility but he needs to cut his teeth a bit longer before attempting to run for President. He’s an awesome public speaker and I think he’d do great but let’s leave him where he is for now.

I love the idea of him as VP though because THAT’s some good “on the job training” for later on.

He WILL be president someday though. I’d wager my life savings on it (provided he doesn’t screw up like most people who head up to Washington do).

Keep your willy in your pants Rubio and don’t lay down with dogs or you’ll get fleas!

SauerKraut537 on October 1, 2011 at 11:45 AM

New_Jersey_Buckeye on September 30, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Something persons of your inflexible point of view fail to acknowledge is:

the “natural born citizen” definition needs defining by the Supreme Court as to the Constitutional requirements for the Executive Branch (Presidency and Vice Presidency).

Until that happens, then, anyone (such as Rubio, such as anyone else of his similar circumstances, though born in the U.S. was born to parents who were not U.S. citizens at the time) will be plagued with the unrest and ongoing rife-arguments about eligibility. And THUS will see their political lives AND the issues they represent dogged with argument and strife.

Rather than trying to make fun of, to ridicule, the people who raise this issue as to possible candidates for the Executive Branch, try understanding the need for resolution instead, which will require the Supreme Court DETERMINING THE INTENT OF THE CONSTITUTION AS IT IS WRITTEN where the Presidency/V.P. is concerned.

I find those of you who ridicule the issue to be more offensive than the people who try to discuss their “Aunt Mabel’s” email…

Lourdes on October 2, 2011 at 6:19 AM

Rubio will possibly be President…

Adjoran on October 1, 2011 at 6:19 AM

Limbaugh: Why aren’t they begging Rubio to run?

That he supports “in-state tuition for illegal aliens/children of illegal aliens” is his big liability, just as it is for people like Rick Perry and the loathesome Debbie Wasserman-Schulz and other Liberals who do.

The identity-politics that now saturates our national population is offensive to me. It’s like candidates are “purchased” from shelves according to mass-packaging: labels, labels, labels…ethnicity, race, gender, bedroom behaviors…

Lourdes on October 2, 2011 at 6:24 AM

If Obama is qualified to hold office then Rubio is as well. What’s the problem?

Richdellavalle on October 1, 2011 at 11:35 AM

To Rubio’s credit, at least he can easily substantiate where he was born with original documents and witnesses.

Lourdes on October 2, 2011 at 6:25 AM

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