Gingrich to his GOP competitors: Stop fighting and “get over it”

posted at 10:45 am on September 30, 2011 by Tina Korbe

He’s not the first to feel this way, but it does seem a little extra newsworthy when a presidential candidate scolds his competitors for attacking each other. Isn’t an admonition to stop fighting and “get over it” a kind of attack in and of itself?

Nevertheless I agree with the sentiments Newt Gingrich recently expressed:

“I have one opponent: Barack Obama,” said Newt Gingrich Thursday evening at the Iowa GOP headquarters in Des Moines. “And frankly, I wish some of my good friends – especially the ones who have the most money – would adopt a little more of Reagan’s 11th commandment and get over it,” Gingrich added, referring to the 40th president’s oft-quoted rule that Republicans shouldn’t speak ill of other Republicans.

“There shouldn’t be a seventh grade recess argument. Because the media loves it. Every time we fight, we’re not hurting Obama.” …

Gingrich explained further: “I’d like to see a campaign in which we offer, each of us, our strengths. And we each offer our solutions. And then, in our team, you know, people in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and so forth are all going to make a choice. One of us will end up the nominee, in all probability. But we should do it in a way that we could all rally on the same team. Defeat Obama and his team [in the] Senate, House, et cetera.”

He’s exactly right: The candidates should be focused on their own strengths and, above all, on whatever solutions they have to offer. But Gingrich’s comments remind me a little — to stay with the elementary school analogy — of a third-grader repeatedly whispering “Shhh” so loudly during quiet time that it defeats the purpose he’s trying to accomplish. Here’s hoping the candidates overcome the pettiness soon so Gingrich won’t have to wear himself out warning about media traps and attempting to rally his opponents to a clean and civil race — and can return to touting his own strengths and solutions.

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“And frankly, I wish some of my good friends – especially the ones who have the most money – would adopt a little more of Reagan’s 11th commandment and get over it,”

Hey Newt, what was that you were saying about Paul Ryan?

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Oh boy!

The professor schooling his students. Go away – stick to
your policies yourself.

Amjean on September 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM

I still think Newt would be an invaluable member of a great conservative team, just not the quarterback.

Extrafishy on September 30, 2011 at 10:51 AM

His brain in Perry’s body.

joepub on September 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Agree! Agree! Agree!
The msm wants nothing more than they attack each other so the one coming through will be attacked by the left using the these same words. Let’s not give them ammunition!

Bambi on September 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Every GOP candidate should then pick a demorat, for instance Nancy Pelosi, and sit on a couch with that person and talk about ways to slaughter what remains of the U.S. economy through benign-sounding legislation.

Bishop on September 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Erm… cough, cough… if candidates have to talk about their strengths, it would eliminate a number of the attack dogs and I don’t think they will like that.

Perry – Strong record as a Governor
Romney – Strong record in the private sector (but a poor Governor – had to get that shot in…tee hee hee)
Gingrich – Strong record as Speaker during Clinton years
Bachmann – ?
Santorum – ?
Cain – Business acumen in setting up successful company.
Paul – Hmmm… Paul is Paul
Huntsman – Can speak Chinese. Why is he in the Republican primary again?

TheRightMan on September 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM

No, he is correct, on this he is right on.
This is the strongest group of contenders we have ever had, and the MSM knows it.
They also know how easy it is to manipulate conservatives, all you have to do is throw out something about immigration, or peoples rights, and “the world is coming to an end”, he is Satan incarnate.
Let’s take Perry, please…what did he do? He exercised state rights, 177 to 4 is how that bill was passed, it was a states rights issue.
Smart conservatives would have thrown it back at the MSM and stated…”Perry shoved it to the Federal Gov. and told them they will take care of education, butt out”…and you would watch the heads spin at the NYT.
Instead, many fell into the spin, and embraced exactly what they wanted…and they will do that with each contender, and each time, it will work…
You let them spin you, when you should be spinning them…

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM

“Shut Up!” He explained…..

obligatory.

ted c on September 30, 2011 at 10:57 AM

I understand what Gingrich is saying and agree to a point. However, you have the Moderators asking questions that promote this. Then some of the Candidates are not telling the truth about the positions or policies of other Candidates and that must be corrected. A lie or insinuation cannot be left standing.

Too much time is taken up with the above and therefore it is difficult to get in positive statements or solutions.

Being positive and offering solutions would work if Candidates would stop misrepresenting their own records and others.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM

There’s an implied “boy” at the end of this statement.

lorien1973 on September 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM

“And frankly, I wish some of my good friends – especially the ones who have the most money

Nan Pelosi?

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 10:59 AM

TheRightMan on September 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM

Exactly…we should base our decisions on the premise that this is a strong field of candidates, and we will pick the one with the ideals that best match what we need as President.
Not which one made a error, or made a decision six years ago…but who is a proven leader with the skills we need now.
But like I have said for the past few years…the MSM knows how to manipulate the conservatives, and it is easy, so very easy.
We attack the weak, and seldom defend the strengths.
This time, we have a boat load of strengths…the first six you mentioned, not a problem, each one can do the job we need to have done, and do it better than any democrat, and most any other Republican.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Knock of the shallow attacks!

Its time to show the left for what they are.

Speakup on September 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Cain – Business acumen in setting up successful company.

According to wall street journal, he saved Burger King after it lost 40% of its business and then saved Godfather pizza – which he then purchased.

And, apparently, he totally nuked Bill Clinton in a debate over hillarycare.

lorien1973 on September 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Being positive and offering solutions would work if Candidates would stop misrepresenting their own records and others.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM

And of course the piling on of critics who support their own candidate, and think nothing of disparaging others….Mittwits, and Palinites are infamous for that.
Notice Cainites do little of that…

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 10:59 AM

+1000

ladyingray on September 30, 2011 at 11:03 AM

He is so right.

gophergirl on September 30, 2011 at 11:03 AM

According to wall street journal, he saved Burger King after it lost 40% of its business and then saved Godfather pizza – which he then purchased.

And, apparently, he totally nuked Bill Clinton in a debate over hillarycare.

lorien1973 on September 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Yes, much more that “setting up a company”…and he would not be alive today if Obamacare was in place…that is a personal story that can’t be overlooked.
He has a personal reason to dismantle Obamacare…

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:03 AM

Since no thread on HA can be valid with mentioning Sarah Palin:-)If anyone has time, take a look at Redstate. Be sure to continue to page down so you see all of the threads, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM

+1000

ladyingray on September 30, 2011 at 11:03 AM

Meanwhile, look at what his proposals are for the first 24 hours of Presidency…with all his “faults”, he is a brilliant man, with a brilliant plan.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:05 AM

This is the strongest group of contenders we have ever had, and the MSM knows it.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM

By what measure?

changer1701 on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Newt is correct. All of this sniping between the candidates reminds me of some of what goes on here at HA. Most of us agree on a lot of the issues but we still banter back and forth trying to prove our points. It is all good here at HA, in the Republican race to replace the worst president in our history – not so much.

VegasRick on September 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM

What the….I thought he was a fan of Palin…or is this a ploy against the anti-Palins? Whatever, sort of funny.

Bishop on September 30, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Meanwhile, look at what his proposals are for the first 24 hours of Presidency…with all his “faults”, he is a brilliant man, with a brilliant plan.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:05 AM

I like those proposals. I just wish it was someone else making them.

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Being positive and offering solutions would work if Candidates would stop misrepresenting their own records and others.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM
And of course the piling on of critics who support their own candidate, and think nothing of disparaging others….Mittwits, and Palinites are infamous for that.
Notice Cainites do little of that…

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM

I’m assuming you are speaking of the threads here on HA. It seems to be par for the course. It does get tiresome:-)

Each Candidate must stand on their record, but the problem is that they lie about it if it pleases them and distort others’ records also in the debates.

Since Gov. Perry has entered the race, it has been said he gets the attacks because he’s the “front runner”. Ok, since he is not now, let’s see if the attacks stop and we’ll correct the current front runner’s record, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Newt is correct. All of this sniping between the candidates reminds me of some of what goes on here at HA. Most of us agree on a lot of the issues but we still banter back and forth trying to prove our points.
VegasRick on September 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Shut up, pinhead, you don’t know jack from jack.

Bishop on September 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Newt waited for Nightrider to fall off his horse, then went after Dorian Gray. Clever Newt.

Seth Halpern on September 30, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Hey Newt….Tiffany’s called and increased your credit limit again. So go away and STFU.

search4truth on September 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM

By what measure?

changer1701 on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

You are exactly who I am speaking of…nothing I say will convince you if you don’t see the obvious.
The MSM will work you over, and you will by lapping up their disdain for each of our candidates.
If you and others, bite your tongue and say, Yes and we will kick their pathetic loser @sses for destroying our country…the MSM’s head would spin…but it won’t because we have “independent” thinkers who will say “By what measure”, and that is exactly what they want…it is so easy for them.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Most of us agree on a lot of the issues but we still banter back and forth trying to prove our points.
VegasRick on September 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Here’s me proving my point:

Go away Newt. Your time is over. Buh bye.

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM

He’s exactly right

In what world?

Perry is not a Conservative and that fact needs to be made.

Cain is not even close to being prepared to be President, and that point needs to be made.

Gingrich believes government is the answer, it just has to be smarter.

Romney has no apparent political philosophy and that needs to be pointed out.

All the candidates have weaknesses and they need to be made to defend themselves, because they will certainly have to defend themselves when they run against Obama. Could it be that Newt doesn’t want his dirty laundry aired in public?

huckleberryfriend on September 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM

Shut up, pinhead, you don’t know jack from jack.

Bishop on September 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Yea, like that kind of friendly banter. LOL!

VegasRick on September 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM

Since Gov. Perry has entered the race, it has been said he gets the attacks because he’s the “front runner”. Ok, since he is not now, let’s see if the attacks stop and we’ll correct the current front runner’s record, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM

You watch when the next front runner emerges, and how quickly you and others jump on the bandwagon to diss him…unless you are one of the “palinbots, or “mittwits”, one of the hard core, than those guys are already attacking everyone else for anything they can grasp at.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:21 AM

I took a pledge.

So, let’s take the pledge. As those who are adamantly against all things Obama, let’s think twice before we comment here, vis-a-vis, putting down those who are on the GOP ticket. From the frontrunner, Romney, down to Johnson. We have more in common with these people then we do with Obama and his Czars and his heads of department. It is so easy, and refreshing to do.

I, carbon_footprint, as a follower of conservatives, conservative principles and the GOP, hereby declare, that from now until the election of 2012, that I will not turn to negative measures against my conservative brethren, nor will I put forth negative comments towards any GOP candidate for President of the United States of America. We are brothers and sisters of a united cause of idealism and we are the last hope for this country. This country, the best country ever in the history of the world and the only hope for the world. No more use of the word, RINO. No more use of the words, True conservative. We are all, alike minded Americans and we are all the last hope for the world. We are not statists, socialists nor progressives. We shall fight until the last drop of our blood. We are better than the liberals, and we shadll prove it from this point forward.

carbon_footprint on September 28, 2011 at 9:52 PM

However, this pledge does not include Mike Huntsman.

carbon_footprint on September 30, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Isn’t an admonition to stop fighting and “get over it” a kind of attack in and of itself?

No, it isn’t.

Midas on September 30, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Since no thread on HA can be valid with mentioning Sarah Palin:-)If anyone has time, take a look at Redstate. Be sure to continue to page down so you see all of the threads, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM

OK, now that’s funny.

Knucklehead on September 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM

“Jesus. I sit on one little couch with a botox queen…”

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Are our candidates working to get rid of the current fiasco we have in the White House or are they just trying to get themselves power….I think Newt is right…let’s don’t make the opposition’s arguments for them….let’s be unified so that whomever the nominee is we will be united behind him, or her!

rich8450 on September 30, 2011 at 11:26 AM

I can’t believe I’m saying (writing) this… Gingrich keeps looking better. He’s been spot on in the debates.

The field isn’t great, but right now I’d put my support this way:

Cain

Gingrich
Perry

Huntsman
Mittens

Bachmann
Santorum
Paul

I think Cain or Gingrich would destroy Obama in the debates. I have no faith in any of the others on that point.

No interest in Palin or Christie.

mankai on September 30, 2011 at 11:27 AM

I have one objective: to find a person that will address the size, scope and power of the federal government far beyond Obamacare or Dodd-Frank, that will secure the Nation against enemies both foreign and domestic, who will take suspect laws to the SCOTUS to find out if they are constitutional, who will dutifully carry out the powers of President of the United States and who will exercise prudence in any and all pardons given so that the goals of our system of justice are upheld from creation to enforcement to sentencing.

Oh, and we might get a multilateral world war in the mix, to boot.

I think if I can find someone to get most of the first part down pat that the taking care about us in war will take care of itself.

So far I’m stuck with the person I voted for last time around.

And I will vote my conscience as being better than Obama doesn’t mean you are any good, at all. No lesser evils. And I vote that way.

ajacksonian on September 30, 2011 at 11:28 AM

And, apparently, he totally nuked Bill Clinton in a debate over hillarycare.

lorien1973 on September 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM

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I watched the video of that on YouTube and Herman brought Clinton up so short that I saw the sudden realization on Clinton’s face that “He GOT me!” This instruction from Cain to Clinton came after Herman had to think on his feet after Clinton gave him a gobbaldegooky smartypants analysis that Cain brought low in less than two minutes.
.
Basically, Cain told Clinton, “I’m not paying any health care costs for two thirds of my employees who are part time but your plan increases those costs from Ø to some portion of my full time employees costs.” Clinton immediately asked for Cain’s written analysis to be sent to him so he could understand it.

ExpressoBold on September 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Newt’s Contract for America is awesome. If he successfully gets this message out, he will be a very serious contender.

Another great thing he said on Hannity yesterday, if he is the GOP nominee he will challenge Obama to Seven, three-hour debates with no moderators, only time keepers. Newt says Obama’s ego would keep him from chickening out and Newt would hit him hard with every blemish on his record.

carbon_footprint on September 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM

The pig eyed fornicating newt must feel he will be a front runner soon.

borntoraisehogs on September 30, 2011 at 11:34 AM

As a voter who lives outside of Iowa, New Hampshire, and a couple of other podunk states, I’ll be faced with a choice of voting for Obama or whoever those other states decide will be the Republican candidate, no matter how crappy a candidate they are, because they’ll be the only one left by the time the ‘primary’ actually rolls around.

Almost invariably that will be some spineless liberal-lite GOP crapweasel like Romney who will have no ammunition to use against Obama that can’t be fired right back in his face. Enough people will probably hate Obama by then that the GOP liberal-lite crapweasel will win, and everyone will be thrilled and then shortly demoralized as the crapweasel fails to kill Obamacare, fails to rein in spending, fails to curtail economy-destroying regulations, fails to have any common sense with regard to cap and trade and other wrong-headed environmental endeavors, etc – all because those are things with which he largely agrees anyway – AND WE ALREADY F-ING KNOW THIS ABOUT HIM, but somehow it will come as a shock to people.

Midas on September 30, 2011 at 11:36 AM

The pig eyed fornicating newt must feel he will be a front runner soon.

borntoraisehogs on September 30, 2011 at 11:34 AM

What know you of pigs?

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Isn’t an admonition to stop fighting and “get over it” a kind of attack in and of itself?

No, it isn’t.

Midas on September 30, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Yes, it is.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 11:38 AM

I like those proposals. I just wish it was someone else making them.

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 11:15 AM

My sentiments…maybe he can get them done by being an “adviser” or the VP with suggestions….
They are impressive, and also the fact that he is opening it for even more Executive Orders, he wants people to send in their requests.
He will issue no more than 200 on the first day of his office…the one I like:

1. Eliminate the thirty-nine White House “Czar” positions created during the current administration. The president does not have the authority to appoint bureaucrats to power who are not accountable to the Congress.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Yes, it is.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 11:38 AM

It’s a circular argument…like some saying “Stop complaining”, and the other say’s, “Well you are”…
People with discernment and any kind of intellect will understand what he means…

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Perry is not a Conservative and that fact needs to be made.

All the candidates have weaknesses and they need to be made to defend themselves, because they will certainly have to defend themselves when they run against Obama. Could it be that Newt doesn’t want his dirty laundry aired in public?

huckleberryfriend on September 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM

Gov. Perry IS a Conservative unless you have a strange definition of it.

Yes, being on the defense always works, right? We are running against Obama and taking a defense position against him is a sure way to lose. Have you ever watched football?

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM

You watch when the next front runner emerges, and how quickly you and others jump on the bandwagon to diss him…unless you are one of the “palinbots, or “mittwits”, one of the hard core, than those guys are already attacking everyone else for anything they can grasp at.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Hey, Sarah Palin is my first choice and Gov. Perry is my second. I’ve defended Gov. Perry here many times against the lies that Romney supporters have made.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM

It’s a circular argument…like some saying “Stop complaining”…

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:42 AM

And there’s the issue. Once you tell someone to stop complaining, you are undermining the entire concept of political discourse. The point is to say, “that is wrong, this is right, and I’ll tell you why”.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM

Gov. Perry IS a Conservative unless you have a strange definition of it.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Your definition of “Conservative”:

Too bad HA doesn’t have Moderators, you and the other haters would be banned so intelligent people could discuss politics.

bluefox on September 29, 2011 at 12:33 AM

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM

carbon_footprint on September 28, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Your pledge is worthy, however I would rather allow my comments to demonstrate my Conservatism. I like the term RINO, Republican in Name Only, because we have many and what easier way to define them.

The RINOS are not voting in America’s best interest and they need to be called out and most Conservatives know who they are.

Distorting or lying about a Candidate’s record is what I abhor and it needs pointed out whether that is a Conservative, Republican or Democrat.

I do appreciate your comments however:-)

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Newt, c’mon, this is why you have primaries. It’s good to fight it out now, but whomever is the nominee damn better well target Barack.

SouthernGent on September 30, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Since no thread on HA can be valid with mentioning Sarah Palin:-)If anyone has time, take a look at Redstate. Be sure to continue to page down so you see all of the threads, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:04 AM
OK, now that’s funny.

Knucklehead on September 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM

I thot so too. I didn’t read any comments at all, figured I’ve heard them all here on HA, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Gov. Perry IS a Conservative unless you have a strange definition of it.

Yes, being on the defense always works, right? We are running against Obama and taking a defense position against him is a sure way to lose. Have you ever watched football?

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Gardisil Executive Order – Conservative or Not Conservative?
Instate Tuition for illegal aliens – Conservative or Not Conservative?
Trans-Texaas Corridor – Conservative or Not Conservative?
Supported the AGA KHAN Islamic Curriculum in Texas Schools – Conservative or Not Conservative?
Crony Capitalism – Pay to Play – Conservative or Not Conservative?

Of course I’ve watched football. The games I watched had BOTH offense and defense. Why do you and Newt want to eliminate defense? That would be like playing the preseason with just the offense. Neither the offense or the defense would be ready when the regular season started.

Same in politics. I want the candidates to have practice defending their positions BEFORE Obama and the Democrats attack them.

huckleberryfriend on September 30, 2011 at 12:03 PM

Good advice, Newt…

Now, please go away… Your time has come and gone…

Khun Joe on September 30, 2011 at 12:05 PM

huckleberryfriend on September 30, 2011 at 12:03 PM

Hater alert! bluefox, you better call for this one to be banned!

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Isn’t an admonition to stop fighting and “get over it” a kind of attack in and of itself?
No, it isn’t.

Midas on September 30, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Yes, it is.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 11:38 AM

So, if someone calls you a racist for objecting to Obama policies, that’s the same as you suggesting they shouldn’t do that? I mean, they’re both ‘attacks’ in your view, right?

Got it.

Midas on September 30, 2011 at 12:09 PM

There is no perfect candidate. Every single one of these GOP candidates has serious flaws in their records and/or abilities or skill set. I’ll say this, if we don’t nominate a conservative who is sharp as a whip with the ability to communicate effectively, we can kiss 2012, and in my opinion, the country goodbye. In my mind there are only two current candidates that meet these requirements and they are Gingrich and Cain. Although he has flaws, Gingrich is the best option in my opinion because he knows the issues cold and can communicate in plain english why he does or doesn’t support a particular issue and would clean Obama’s clock in a debate. I’m as bothered by him and Pelosi getting snuggly on a sofa as anybody else, but the other candidates have said or done something just as stupid or worse.

the_stoics on September 30, 2011 at 12:12 PM

What know you of pigs?

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 11:38 AM
Although the only hogs I raise are from my motorcycle business,
I happen to know a little about pigs. They are among our greatest blessings. Intelligent, clean, playfully clever, fun loving, loyal, cost efficient and tasty. Newt’s only shared attribute are the eyes, which misleadingly look sneaky on a pig, but are windows to the soul of the Newt.

borntoraisehogs on September 30, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Gingrich to his GOP competitors: Stop fighting and “get over it”

Newt is not my candidate of choice, but I have to agree with him here. All voters, not just the right are watching this play out and after what happened in 2006-2008,2010 elections, along with Obama’s petty attacks on all things to the right of him–I think the public has had enough. Show me what you offer, save the nasty for the enemy. It shows me more mettle when you are willing to do that. Mudslinging dirties everyone involved and we have reality tv if we want to enjoy that. Stop letting the enemy exploit our differences. Its a huge turnoff to watch and read these attacks.Defend your positions without the necessity of attacks. If you dont know if your position is acceptable, then you may need to rethink your position, fire your advisors or apologize and step aside.

canditaylor68 on September 30, 2011 at 12:17 PM

So, if someone calls you a racist for objecting to Obama policies, that’s the same as you suggesting they shouldn’t do that? I mean, they’re both ‘attacks’ in your view, right?

Got it.

Midas on September 30, 2011 at 12:09 PM

The claim of racism, in that case, has no merit. Newt’s telling people to stop criticizing candidates and candidate to stop criticizing each other, with valid criticisms(apart from Perry calling people racist and heartless).

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Too bad HA doesn’t have Moderators, you and the other haters would be banned so intelligent people could discuss politics.

bluefox on September 29, 2011 at 12:33 AM
MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM

I’m a hater? You certainly assume a lot MC.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I’m a hater? You certainly assume a lot MC.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Don’t recognize your own words? Shocker. You called for people who criticize Perry, or “haters” as you called them, to be banned from the site. Try to weasel out of it all you like.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Newt, you are correct. The candidates need to stop attacking each other and run on their strengths.

When they do that, the people will realize that you have none and you will fade away into the obscurity you deserve!

jackal40 on September 30, 2011 at 12:25 PM

huckleberryfriend on September 30, 2011 at 12:03 PM

The list you stated all have explanations and most have been discussed and explained here on HA. One can disagree with those policies, but I don’t think it’s fair to make a blanket statement as you did without the explanations.

I don’t want to eliminate Defense at all, but would like to see some Offense in the debates as well. My opinions on that are here:

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 10:58 AM

The Offense needs to be directed toward Obamas record.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Haven’t read the comments yet but I want to point out that the Fox debate moderators admitted they were trying to gin up a fight at the debate just because it’s good tv. Its all about ratings They are no better than the other network’s moderators at eliciting important info from the candidates.

juliesa on September 30, 2011 at 12:28 PM

as smart as newt is.. there’s no way this argument flies.

The idea of the primaries is to find out the weaknesses/strengths of all the candidates.

I would not have known about Perry’s willingness to sign Executive orders to go around the general will of the people. (again, that’s what the Gardasil issue should be about, not about the drug itself.)

I wouldn’t have known (well, okay, yes I did know about the disaster of Romneycare,) or Mitt’s support for Obama and Duncan’s “Race to the Top”.

or about paul’s overall looni.. yeah, i knew that one already too.

Per Newt’s argument, iuf Christie got into the race for instance, we’d not be allowed to ask about his stance on gun-control either then? Yeah, that’ll go over real well with conservative voters.

If a candidate goes too far in their attacks and it repulses the voters, they’ll let the candidate know about it…

DaSaintFan on September 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM

huckleberryfriend on September 30, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Hater alert! bluefox, you better call for this one to be banned!

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM

I would have thought you would have exercised that option against me. I’ve never used it against anyone and wouldn’t intend to. Free speech is more important and I just ignore the haters for the most part:-)

However, I do find it strange that you call me a hater for just expressing my opinion on a subject.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:35 PM

He is dead on. I doubt he has the moral gravitas at this point to be taken seriously, but this is an opening for whichever candidate will cast a positive vision rather than get in the mud with other Pubs. Bachmann and Perry have been big disappointments in this regard, but especially Bachmann. They haven’t realized that they drag themselves down most of all.

paul1149 on September 30, 2011 at 12:36 PM

I’m a hater? You certainly assume a lot MC.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Don’t recognize your own words? Shocker. You called for people who criticize Perry, or “haters” as you called them, to be banned from the site. Try to weasel out of it all you like.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I would appreciate a link for that. Vile and vulgar comments are in a different category in my opinion.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:39 PM

I say, “let the mud slinging continue and may the best candidate
or non candidate/candidate to be as is my preference win!”

Amjean on September 30, 2011 at 12:40 PM

juliesa on September 30, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Nice to see you and want to say that you did an excellent job of explaining the many discussions on Texas laws yesterday. Another person did as well, but forgot the name. (kim?)

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Exactly…we should base our decisions on the premise that this is a strong field of candidates, and we will pick the one with the ideals that best match what we need as President.
Not which one made a error, or made a decision six years ago…but who is a proven leader with the skills we need now.
But like I have said for the past few years…the MSM knows how to manipulate the conservatives, and it is easy, so very easy.
We attack the weak, and seldom defend the strengths.
This time, we have a boat load of strengths…the first six you mentioned, not a problem, each one can do the job we need to have done, and do it better than any democrat, and most any other Republican.

right2bright on September 30, 2011 at 11:00 AM

I totally agree, except it’s not just the MSM. Just listen to the sniping that has gone on here at HotAir about “not so important in the big picture” things that these candidates have done. It’s frankly been quite a turn off to me, and I have found myself going elsewhere on the internet more and more because of it.

Susanboo on September 30, 2011 at 12:44 PM

It’s kind of fun watching a theory of psychology play out in the real world. Call Rick Perry a conservative and like clockwork Pavlov’s dogs rush out and poop all over the comment thread.

Kim Priestap on September 30, 2011 at 12:49 PM

I would appreciate a link for that. Vile and vulgar comments are in a different category in my opinion.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:39 PM

You’re actually trying to pretend I made up that quote?

Enjoy.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

It’s kind of fun watching a theory of psychology play out in the real world. Call Rick Perry anot conservative and like clockwork Pavlov’s dogs rush out and poop all over the comment thread.

Kim Priestap on September 30, 2011 at 12:49 PM

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 1:08 PM

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Good afternoon, MadCon! I hope you’re doing well today.

Kim Priestap on September 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM

mankai on September 30, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Funny how you can be respectful of everyone except Gov Romney!
He has said he will give every state an opt out on the first day and then get it over turned in the congress. He is a trustworthy man. He will do what he says! I agree with “carbon” quit giving the soc/libs/comm ammunition to use against whomever comes thru the primaries.

Bambi on September 30, 2011 at 1:27 PM

I have one opponent: Barrack Obama

I have many, including those that form partnerships with Marxists and announce late in the game that they’ll “speak every day” to one person’s infidelity while having an affair.

elfman on September 30, 2011 at 1:39 PM

I would appreciate a link for that. Vile and vulgar comments are in a different category in my opinion.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 12:39 PM
You’re actually trying to pretend I made up that quote?

Enjoy.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

I wasn’t trying to pretend anything. I read that link and I stand by it on that particular thread and regarding that person. That doesn’t mean that I reported them to be banned (I don’t even know how that is done:-) nor does that make me a hater. A hater to me is a poster that rejects facts or explanations with facts and continues to post opinions contrary to those, over and over and over again.

I also think it’s best to ignore them but being human, sometimes it is not the easiest thing to do.

During the latter of 2007 and 2008 election season, the blogs were loaded with bots getting paid for every response they got, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM

During the latter of 2007 and 2008 election season, the blogs were loaded with bots getting paid for every response they got, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Those accusations were slung at anyone who criticized any candidate. They’re as pathetic now as they were then.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 1:57 PM

But Gingrich’s comments remind me a little — to stay with the elementary school analogy — of a third-grader repeatedly whispering “Shhh” so loudly during quiet time that it defeats the purpose he’s trying to accomplish.

Gingrich like Palin recognizes the media is using them for a dog and pony show or as Palin stated treating the Republican primary like a Reality TV show. I am already losing interest. Is this all there is? At some point people – viewers, get wise to the Media’s exploitation, there is a fatigue setting in, and it’s not even October yet. I don’t know how Gingrich could say it any plainer. There is a short game – the Primary, and a long game the General. The Republican infighting isn’t leaving me with a lot of confidence in the Republican party. It looks like Romney is going to get the nomination, pretty much the same way Dole did, he’s next in line.

This is one of the many things that turns the Independents off to the Status Quo Party.

Dr Evil on September 30, 2011 at 2:09 PM

via Drudge:

Newt on Obamacare: ‘About 300 pages are pretty good’…

portlandon on September 30, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Agree with Newt. This has been a sore spot with me, because the media and the left are looking for every opportunity to defeat us. The media, by and large, are looking for that infamous “gotcha moment” and Newt, a few debates ago, told a moderator he wasn’t interested in the liberal media trying to get him to attack other candidates.

United we stand, divided we fall. Make differences, but the kind of crap some have been doing hurt “us” and that’s exactly what the media is looking for.

Newt has followed his words through the debates.

BruthaMan on September 30, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Those accusations were slung at anyone who criticized any candidate. They’re as pathetic now as they were then.

MadisonConservative on September 30, 2011 at 1:57 PM

No, only questions and criticizms about Barack Obama. These were his bots and there were even ads advertising on the pay they would receive and how to be hired. They were paid for every response they got, not their comment. Hence the purpose of their malicious comments. Trolls and bots are different than those asking legitimate questions/discussions/criticizm. They attack and get very personal and ugly against anyone posting anything positive about a particular Candidate and ESPECIALLY if it’s truthful. Those are the haters in my opinion. Their purpose? To damage the Candidate in any way they can. I see them here and elsewhere.

Was on a site yesterday evening and you would be surprised at the reason the Mod banned a poster. It would not have even caused a reply here on HA, LOL Oh, and the comment was removed also.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Dr Evil on September 30, 2011 at 2:09 PM

I agree and I’m losing interest and most likely will not watch the next debate. It’s going to be more of the same. Newt & Palin is right as you say. The purpose of these debates as I see them are: 1. Ratings 2. Take down a Candidate 3. Putting “some” Candidates on the Defense 4. Promoting the “fav” Candidate

It looks like the Left wing media has lined up the upcoming debates and there is no room for any format as Jim DeMint had in S.C. Too bad; at least that debate was informative.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Either we win by landslide or we lose. If Obama polls within 5 points of the Republican candidate in the weeks prior to the election, then he and his people would be able to steal the election. They can’t do it if the margin is implausibly wide.

troyriser_gopftw on September 30, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Being a realist, I agree. Many of the Voters and especially those of the Republican Party are underestimating the enemy. I hope they are taking necessary precautions against fraud and not being as naive as usual.

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 5:15 PM

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Sorry. This post was for a different thread. Had too many windows open!!

bluefox on September 30, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Amen, Newt.

I’ll point out that none of these candidates attacked each other until Perry joined in. Since then it’s been a bloody mess of them attacking Perry, Perry defending, and finally, Perry deciding he’d better attack Mitt to play offense instead of defense.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on September 30, 2011 at 5:47 PM

He’s exactly right: The candidates should be focused on their own strengths and, above all, on whatever solutions they have to offer.

He’s exactly right: for the general election. Right now, though, each candidate has to distinguish himself from the other candidates for the same position, and part of that is pointing out their weaknesses.

Yes, they can go overboard. And if they do, they’ll probably hurt themselves rather than help themselves. But it’s not time to join our hands in unity and sing Kum-bay-ah just yet.

tom on September 30, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I’ll add: it’s easy for him to say this. He’s not been the one being attacked. He’s been so low in the polls all this time that he poses no threat and therefore, every other candidate has been nothing but nice to him. Bachmann loves him, Santorum loves him, Perry “chose” him to be his VP, etc. If Newt ever rises high enough in the polls, he’ll be attacked for so many things. I love Newt, but there’s a lot of things for the other to attack if they had to.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on September 30, 2011 at 6:36 PM

I’m with Newt on this… So he has said one thing that I agree with. Keep talking Newt. Maybe you can help our next President defeat Obarry.
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RalphyBoy on September 30, 2011 at 11:07 PM