Quotes of the day

posted at 10:30 pm on September 29, 2011 by Allahpundit

“After months of hedging, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is giving serious thought to jumping into the ring for a GOP presidential run — and could make his decision next week, The Post has learned.

“The announcement may come as soon as Monday, said sources familiar with Christie’s thinking…

“[W]hen the governor first arrived at the Reagan library, he was still telling his inner circle he was a definite ‘no’ for a presidential run — and planned to make that clear in his appearance.

“Something changed that night, sources said…

“Insiders say Christie is ready to put a presidential campaign together ‘pretty fast.’

“And he’d have to, since filing deadlines for key primary ballots are just weeks off.”

***

“With all the clamoring for Chris Christie to get into the presidential race at this late date, how realistic is it for him — should he decide to run — to pull together a serious campaign in the eleventh hour?

“There are organizational issues, of course, but the main answer, say leading political consultants, lies in ballot access: getting his name on the Republican presidential primary ballot in all 56 of the states and territories by each of their different deadlines. Those start cropping up in just one month — Oct. 31, when filing materials are due in Florida.

“An additional challenge is that each of the 56 contests has different rules with different deadlines, and the process can be time-consuming, aggravating and expensive…

“Election lawyers, however, say it’s still possible for a late-entering candidate, such as Christie or Sarah Palin, to get ballot access in each state and territory.”

***

“After Super Tuesday and a few other smaller Southern primaries in March, the calendar almost entirely favors Romney – March 20 is Illinois, and April 24 is slated for a slew of Northeastern states that will almost all go to Romney. (As a Northeastern governor, the same math would likely apply to Christie)…

“But the Romney camp also has had a hand in crafting the calendar. Aides like longtime RNC member Ron Kaufman were on hand to keep an eye on the process, and the former Massachusetts governor’s allies continue to try to tweak the calendar around its edges, and to move up Romney-friendly states…

“The calendar’s design, especially the somewhat less than Super Tuesday, suggests that the race may not be decided by early March. The possibility of a Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton, 50-state showdown is certainly present—and the chances of the GOP picking a nominee in April or May is just as likely.”

***

“This is a serious decision, and I’m engaged in serious deliberations. And within the next 24 hours don’t look for me to make a decision.”


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You mittbotts are some of the most stupid people I have ever seen.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Do you feel better? I hope so. It isn’t fair that Palin has screwed you worshipers. She took advantage of you easily bamboozled rubes.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Sarah Palin still not a candidate.

Why is this news?

catmman on September 30, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Can’t wait for Christie to get in and bleed Mitt dry. Be very very worried Mittbots. Maybe Sarah’s looking for that, too.

gracie on September 30, 2011 at 9:11 AM

If I were a mittbot I would be very worried of a chrstie run. For several reasons.

christie will be the first candidate that can take votes from the left from Mitt, He has the backing of Rove and bush and the neo-con wing of the gop. With Perry still in the race but fading he takes the establishment conservative vote. Mitt will be getting hit on all sides. And the establishment vote will be further split. It will be 2008 all over again for Mitt. He will be the anti-goldilocks. the candidate that is nither conservative enough nor RINOish enough. and in comes Palin to deliver the knock out punch as she wraps up most of the conservative non establishment vote.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:16 AM

Sarah Palin still not a candidate.

Why is this news?

catmman on September 30, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Because pundits are still talking about her. I’m not sure why.

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 9:18 AM

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:15 AM

showing more stupidity? I’m shocked/

I wonder if you will really lose wha tis left of your mind when Palin announces her run.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Doing the right thing is never wrong.

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM

You aren’t doing the right thing by being so rigid that you cannot think straight when things don’t go your way.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM

Exactamundo, unseen!

gracie on September 30, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Off Topic-
Freedom of speech issue

Guest1.1 on September 30, 2011 at 9:24 AM

You aren’t doing the right thing by being so rigid that you cannot think straight when things don’t go your way.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM

You’re telling the guy who’s been saying “always have a backup plan” for months that he’s too rigid? Really? REALLY?! I’ve been more flexible in my choice of candidate than most of the Palin supporters around here have. Have you been living under a rock, or are you just willfully ignoring that fact?

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 9:24 AM

I wonder if you will really lose wha tis left of your mind when Palin announces her run.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:18 AM

That delusional thinking has been working for you since at least late spring, but it wont work after today. You’ll have to rely on trying to insult people by calling them MittBots. Which as I have stated, will only work until you start actually paying attention.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Sorry Can’t get the link in, If you want to copy and paste.
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Controversial-political-sign-raises-eyebrows-130727418.html

Guest1.1 on September 30, 2011 at 9:25 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:16 AM

My masters at The Estabishment called. They informed me not to fear a Christie run. The Estabishment spoke to him and confirmed in the most thorough of ways that Governor Christie, if he knows what’s good for him, will in no way interfere with their the American people’s desire for Mitt to take control be America’s puppet master humble public servant..

This message was reviewed and approved by The Estabishment. Dissent will be summarily and mercilessly crushed.

Have a nice day,
The Estabishment

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Question for the Mittbots… why on earth would you trust Mitt to actually govern as a conservative? He never has. In fact, he’s governed as a center-letist. He won’t criticize Obama’s underlying leftist philosophy.

Sure, people can change positions, but when they do they usually disavow their previous positions. Mitt won’t do that.

mankai on September 30, 2011 at 9:26 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:16 AM

You hit the nail on the head, way to go.

KBird on September 30, 2011 at 9:26 AM

mankai on September 30, 2011 at 9:26 AM

What I expect is for Mitt to turn around our economy. I expect it because his plan provides the essential ingredients to accomplish that. I also trust Mitt’s judgment, knowledge and experience as a global business competitor to serve him well in terms of salvaging our tattered foreign policy.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:28 AM

I wonder if Mitt sees is slipping away from him yet?

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Have you been living under a rock, or are you just willfully ignoring that fact?

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Neither. I am simply responding to how you are currently behaving. If you aren’t having a come apart, then choose different words.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:29 AM

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:29 AM

It looks to me as though it is slipping towards him! Does this look like he’s losing ground to you?

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:31 AM

Neither. I am simply responding to how you are currently behaving. If you aren’t having a come apart, then choose different words.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Oy.

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 9:31 AM

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 9:31 AM

Hey! You’re a goy, you can’t say that :-)

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:32 AM

as she wraps up most of the conservative non establishment vote.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:16 AM

Which only serves to solidify the opposition to her from the only people who can give her the presidency….the indies. Palin has never been concerned with them and that is all one needs to accept to understand she was never going to run. Every other candidate in history understood that the indies are the group that decides national elections and in varying ways always address their concerns to certain degrees.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:33 AM

but it wont work after today. .

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:25 AM

what’s special about today?

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Mitt has peaked, his support is and always has been soft, he is the target everyone else will hit after Perry fades and conservatives know he is a jerkoff and will never support him. Winning.

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Question for the Mittbots… why on earth would you trust Mitt to actually govern as a conservative? He never has. In fact, he’s governed as a center-letist. He won’t criticize Obama’s underlying leftist philosophy.

Sure, people can change positions, but when they do they usually disavow their previous positions. Mitt won’t do that.

mankai on September 30, 2011 at 9:26 AM

Mittbots don’t trust Mitt to govern as a conservative, though they console themselves by reminding us that he’s a “moderate who can win.” You see, it’s part of a “long-term strategy” and those of us who think we’ve run out of time with the long-term strategies are “loose cannons” or something who are getting “panicky.”

I know this because that’s what my betters told me.

gryphon202 on September 30, 2011 at 9:34 AM

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Go take your meds.

derft on September 30, 2011 at 9:35 AM

What I expect is for Mitt to turn around our economy. I expect it because his plan provides the essential ingredients to accomplish that. I also trust Mitt’s judgment, knowledge and experience as a global business competitor to serve him well in terms of salvaging our tattered foreign policy.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:28 AM

I think you mittbots came out of the closet too early. You all should have stayed hidden a couple more weeks. It would have made your “switch” more believable. timing is everything as Palin supporters know.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:36 AM

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:34 AM

He has been the front runner since 2009. He’s been taking fire for years and his fortunes just keep improving. Take another look at RCP!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Sorry Can’t get the link in, If you want to copy and paste.
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Controversial-political-sign-raises-eyebrows-130727418.html

Guest1.1 on September 30, 2011 at 9:25 AM

“He wouldn’t do that to [President] Bush, I’m sure. It’s just insulting. It’s insulting,” said C.C. Campbell-Rock. “He’s going to have to take them down.”

I wonder what this @ssclown said when there were books and movies depicting the assassination of Bush?

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:38 AM

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:25 AM

rush is correct once again. you all really hate that establishment brandname. I personally think it is 100 times better at describing you people than RINO ever will.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:39 AM

what’s special about today?

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:33 AM

That self soothing delusional thinking works wonders for you doesn’t it?

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:40 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Hate it? I’m starting to revel in it! My masters at The Establishment will be so pleased :-)

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Question for the Mittbots… why on earth would you trust Mitt to actually govern as a conservative? He never has. In fact, he’s governed as a center-letist. He won’t criticize Obama’s underlying leftist philosophy.

Sure, people can change positions, but when they do they usually disavow their previous positions. Mitt won’t do that.

mankai on September 30, 2011 at 9:26 AM

hate to say this but the mittbots don’t want a conservative. They want a guy that has nice creased pantlegs that will steer the ship of state down the same path Obama is doing but do it “better”. They the establishment people don’t want to rock the boat nor do they want to turn the freaking boat around…

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Nah, he is just a “tease” LOL

Amjean on September 30, 2011 at 3:39 AM

Palin unlike christie has been consistent sayign she is seriously thinking about running. Chrisite has said NO 100 times, said he wasn’t quaili8fied for the position and now because someone with money/power talks to him he might change his mind. there is nothing in common on how the two have handled the issue.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 8:07 AM

Didn’t say there was.

BTW, If you can take criticism from a fellow Palin supporter, may I
say that you are wasting too much of your time fighting with idiots
on this site.

I know it can be entertaining, however, in some respects fighting with them with continuous back and forth postings is non productive. There are a lot of darn
“fools and tools” that post on this site. That is their handle;
should not be yours. Do not reduce yourself to their level.

Just my opinion – love reading what you post regardless. You
have set the record straight on Palin’s record many times on this site.

Amjean on September 30, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Mitt’s “fortunes” are improving. His election chances, however, remain unchanged.

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:42 AM

I wonder what is up with Erick posting hourly updates..That seems strange..:)
Dire Straits on September 30, 2011 at 9:03 AM

He’s employing mega-snark, fer sure.

no excuse for waiting? sure no reason at all. I’m sure she could spend tons fo money for no reason like your man Mitt who after millions spent still has a hard time cracking 20% and has the establishment so worried they are pushing christie to come and save them….
unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:09 AM

The reasons for “dithering” was in reference to the fact that unlike Palin the other wavering and late-entry candidates have real jobs as sitting Governors. As for how brilliant Palin’s strategy is, we’ll have to see won’t we? Didn’t resident Palin experts tell us her contract is up for renewal? She could also be playing hard to get with Fox News. Or maybe they didn’t want to renew because she sucks as a new analyst and now she’s floundering around? Who knows – but if you want to speculate about this dithering helping her because she saves money she also can’t raise in any substantial way, go for it.

Buy Danish on September 30, 2011 at 9:42 AM

He has been the front runner since 2009. He’s been taking fire for years and his fortunes just keep improving. Take another look at RCP!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Don’t confuse them with facts. It only makes their head hurt.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Here is the link for Newt’s new Contract with America

The fact is, it made up for his sitting on the bench with Pelosi for me.

carbon_footprint on September 30, 2011 at 2:20 AM

He’s inserted the most substance into the debate by far.

rrpjr on September 30, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Hate it? I’m starting to revel in it! My masters at The Establishment will be so pleased :-)

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:40 AM

you are like the domesticated dog that neither knows nor wants liberty. You would instead lay by the fire and have the establishment provide your food for you.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:44 AM

He’s inserted the most substance into the debate by far.

rrpjr on September 30, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Newt is growing on me. I will have to see if he can stop himself from putting his foot in his mouth again.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:46 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:44 AM

But they’re such beneficent overlords. I know that The Establishment sounds sinister and all of that. But really, they’re swell. Why in just a few weeks they are going to enroll me in classes to learn how to become shadowy!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:46 AM

He has been the front runner since 2009. He’s been taking fire for years and his fortunes just keep improving. Take another look at RCP!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:37 AM

ROFLMAO….taking fire? Mitt has been in hiding since 2008 in his bunker. Mitt hasn’t had anyone go after him yet. And as far as a front runner he couldn’t even keep the spotlight on him when he announced his run. a lady in a bus showed him up. frontrunner? Maybe for dogcatcher

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Mitt is the most disgusting kind of elitist, RINO squish. If he is nominated I will work against him because his election would set us back a decade. The MSM and the Democrats will lead him around by his nose ring while reviling him for eight years. He would be Obama Lite. The republican party would be in tatters when it was over. Mitt is Death on a Cracker.

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

But they’re such beneficent overlords. I know that The Establishment sounds sinister and all of that. But really, they’re swell. Why in just a few weeks they are going to enroll me in classes to learn how to become shadowy!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Those the same ones that have placed our children in debt to the tune of $15 trillion, engaged us in three wars that they can’t figure out how to get out of? placed federal gov agents in charge of our local schools, insituted speech codes and hate crimes? Many people have felt like you in human history and allowed the “benefical rulers” to rule them to their dismay. The gop establishment gave us Obama and the marxists you want to elect another establishment figure and expect a different result?

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Why in just a few weeks they are going to enroll me in classes to learn how to become shadowy!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Hahaha!! You lose! I signed up early and received my very own black helicopter!

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Shucks. That’s what I get for waiting so long to embrace the collective.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Mitt will sell us out on Healthcare. Mitt will sell us out on immigration. If asked, he will sell us out on the 2nd Amendment. He will be smiling and talking about the “Call of History” when he does it.

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:55 AM

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Please send a picture of you hacking your nose off with a rusty butter knife so you can spite America. For added bonus, send a video with you screaming the words…..”I told you so, you dirty 8astards!!”.

That would be sweet.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Crappolla – I never thought I”d say this but some of the Palin supporters are beginning to be as annoying with their whining as the PDS posters are with their snarking.

Palin supporters might as well accept that all their moaning and bit*hing isn’t going to make her decide one second sooner – it’s jusr childish on your part. If she’s driving you crazy and you can’t wait any longer GO FIND another candidate to support.

katiejane on September 30, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Buy Danish on September 30, 2011 at 9:42 AM

she signed a multi-year contract a 3 year contract I believe the news reports said at the time with foxnews in jan of 2010. Have no idea about any renewal.

Again she could have jumped in back in June like your boy Mitt and wasted millions in donors money for nothing. Palin is a fiscal conservative unlike Mitt and spends OPM’s wisely.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:55 AM

And he’ll steal your puppy too.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Shucks. That’s what I get for waiting so long to embrace the collective.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:55 AM

I hear that if you sign up for an additional tour of duty, they will give you a black suit, white shirt, black tie and sunglasses along with a black Crown Vic with black wall tires and nondescript hubcaps.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM

I am soooo there!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:59 AM

The republican party would be in tatters when it was over. Mitt is Death on a Cracker.

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

It will be the same result as Bush only instead of 8 years Mitt will mess it all up in 4 years. what is he going to do to fix the economy? put us all out of work and outsource us to China?

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:00 AM

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Why do you never troll the Fast and Furious threads?

Akzed on September 30, 2011 at 10:00 AM

I am soooo there!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 9:59 AM

When we meet, don’t forget to greet me with the double super secret handshake.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Funny thing, you continually whine about people who don’t talk about policy. When have you ever said word 1 about what is in Mitt’s plan? I refer to it all the time and you (along with most other haters) can never seem to come up with anything to criticize. Instead it’s all personal BS, ridiculous ad hominems and FUD.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Why do you never troll the Fast and Furious threads?

Akzed on September 30, 2011 at 10:00 AM

First, I’m not trolling. Second, you find me a group of loons who are as entertaining as the St Palin the Victimized worshipers and I’ll check it out.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Crappolla – I never thought I”d say this but some of the Palin supporters are beginning to be as annoying with their whining as the PDS posters are with their snarking.

katiejane on September 30, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Agree. But those are weak supporters at best, falling victim to the pressure campaign mounted against Palin by the impatient establishment to force her hand to make an announcement either way. Very entertaining to watch. As for Christie, he’ll lose my vote until I see some humility from him. I’m done with arrogant politicians.

RepubChica on September 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM

As for Christie, he’ll lose my vote until I see some humility from him. I’m done with arrogant politicians.

RepubChica on September 30, 2011 at 10:07 AM

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for humility from CC. That is so not his style.

katiejane on September 30, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Funny thing, you continually whine about people who don’t talk about policy. When have you ever said word 1 about what is in Mitt’s plan? I refer to it all the time and you (along with most other haters) can never seem to come up with anything to criticize. Instead it’s all personal BS, ridiculous ad hominems and FUD.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM

his 59 power point plan? his the 160 page manifesto?

Let’s see waviers for Obamacare? lame and a falseflag operation designed to keep what the establishment considers the good points of Obamacare while washing his hands of the issue.

and how is this gem from Mitt while discussing his plan:

Growing our economy is the way to put people to work and fund our national budget.”

does that even make sense? how are you going to grow your economy if no one is working?

I keep trying to read it I’m on about page 10 but I continue to fall asleep from the total boredom.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Well what do you think of Mitt wanting to start a trade war with China on his first day in office? sounds real tough and real stupid….

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:20 AM

First, I’m not trolling.
csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 10:06 AM

And I’m actually Obama’s brother, typing this from my hut in Kenya.

kingsjester on September 30, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Let’s see waviers for Obamacare? lame and a falseflag operation designed to keep what the establishment considers the good points of Obamacare while washing his hands of the issue.

His plan says that he would do that on day 1 with an EO. It also says that he will submit legislation to Congress to repeal it in its entirety. That is all that a POTUS can do. Anyone who says that they would do more is bullshitting you.

and how is this gem from Mitt while discussing his plan:

Growing our economy is the way to put people to work and fund our national budget.”

does that even make sense? how are you going to grow your economy if no one is working?

Yes, of course it makes sense. Economic expansion is how jobs are created. And it is also how the government gets the revenues it needs to close our deficit without counter-productively raising tax rates. This is Conservatism 101. Are you really that daft as to not see that? You aren’t just “unseen” you are entirely “unseeing!” Blind as bat.

I keep trying to read it I’m on about page 10 but I continue to fall asleep from the total boredom.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

That’s your fault. And it explains why you never learn and are unable to criticize except with ad hominems and FUD. I know that you prefer glib hand waiving accompanied by funny jokes and all that. Maybe it’s time to grow up.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Growing our economy is the way to put people to work and fund our national budget.”

does that even make sense? how are you going to grow your economy if no one is working?

I keep trying to read it I’m on about page 10 but I continue to fall asleep from the total boredom.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

The start of economic growth begins when rich people invest their hard earned money. They only invest their hard earned money when the government takes less of it from them.

Only progressives think creating non existent jobs will grow the economy. And it becomes clearer by the day that you are a stealth progressive who comes here to make all Palin supporters look like delusional lunatics.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 10:31 AM

I keep trying to read it I’m on about page 10 but I continue to fall asleep from the total boredom.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Yes, 140 character tweets are all the policy specifics you need….

@Myfollowers: Obama Care bad, common sense conservatism good

@SarahPalin: My god you are the oracle of the ages. Bring on the truth sister Sarah!

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Warren Buffett on FOX Business: “I support Obama 100%.” & is hosting a fundraiser for Obama tonight….
In response to ‘voluntary’ giving by the very wealthy additional $$$ to supplement income taxes, he calls it ‘believing in the tooth fairy’… Similar response regarding why he wouldn’t pay his secretary’s taxes.
How could this guy say something like, “it’s the regenerative response to capitalism… It works.” then support a socialist like Obama? Pie in the sky a-hole…
Just goes to show you, when some folks have so much money, that the gov’t could take 90% without them noticing, they develop utopian thinking because they forget how hard it is to earn money & make it count…

SurferDoc on September 30, 2011 at 9:53 AM

I tend to agree with you… I think Romney thinks similarly as Buffett does. However, I do feel quite resigned to the fact tat there is such an entrenched career elite in politics, and those types of folks in the GOP will work hard to see someone like Romney get the nomination because of ‘electability’, rather than someone like Cain. Unfortunately, the other candidates are too busy sabotaging themselves that Romney has skated so far.

Ultimately, I will still vote for Romney, or whoever is the GOP nominee rather than Obama… I don’t think this country’s economy, or healthcare system, would ever recover from the damage due to another 4 yrs of that socialist’s corrupt policies. Also, keep in mind, another 4 yrs mean additional potential SCOTUS justice nominees like the “wise Latina” and the Harvard she male who fought against campus ROTC… It would also mean 4 more years of executive orders increasing the regulating power of leftist govt agencies (e.g. NLRB, SEC, EPA, etc.)…There are bigger fish to fry.

So we may not like the GOP nominee, but we can slowly work to elect more fiscally conservative senators & representatives & be more vocally active that way to prevent a potential new GOP president from continuing or promoting federal health/social/environmental engineering policies…

I really like Cain, he doesn’t seem so much a squish & hope he picks up steam. If not, of whoever is left over… the potential RINO GOP presidential nominee & Obama, I’ll pick the GOP nominee for President… although I may be feeling that, “It’s not a choice, it’s a lack of options.”

Danny on September 30, 2011 at 10:34 AM

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:05 AM

oh here is a great gem by Mitt in his 59 point manifesto.

He will also begin the process of transitioning to a territorial corporate tax system.

so Mitt the globalist wants to place the corp tax rate in control of other countries….. wonderful

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:41 AM

And I’m actually Obama’s brother, typing this from my hut in Kenya.

kingsjester on September 30, 2011 at 10:22 AM

If you’re convinced I am trolling, you are stupid for falling for it.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 10:42 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

If you had managed to keep your eyes open and read more, you would see that Mitt’s plan to foster economic growth includes:

1. Lowering capital gains tax to 25%.
2. Reforming the income tax to make it flatter and without all the loopholes, credits, etc.
3. Implementing a territorial tax to remove the penalty on business of repatriating their profits.
4. Encouraging the middle class to save and invest by eliminating our capital gains, dividend and interest taxes, which will make more money available for business as well.
5. Seriously pressuring China and others to respect intellectual property.
6. Introducing legislation to repeal the pernicious aspects of Dodd-Franks.
7. Rolling back most of the Obama era regulations.
8. Granting permits for oil and gas exploration.
9. Reforming the EPA and other job-destroying agencies.

and more. But none of that interests you. Not when there are glib, vague generalities to be imbibed and funny zingers to amuse you.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:44 AM

If you’re convinced I am trolling, you are stupid for falling for it.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 10:42 AM

He’s still stewing about your “Blogging for Dummies” remark regarding his fountain of wisdom personal blog

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 10:44 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:41 AM

You are clueless. That measure will allow American businesses to bring their profits here to invest without the prohibitive penalties they now face!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:45 AM

He’s still stewing about your “Blogging for Dummies” remark regarding his fountain of wisdom personal blog

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Yeah, the few moments I spent reading it is time I’ll never get back.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 10:47 AM

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:27 AM

Thanks for pointing out Romney had put out a document pointing specific plan/policies. I was ignorant about it, will read it & refrain from more ad hominems vs Romney as best I can control my urge to do otherwise (though if a Romney Badlipreading video comes out, I’ll probably laugh just like with the Perry one).

However, I can’t only blame Romney for Romneycare, as bad an idea that was, because others (Including Heritage) also thought an individual mandate was a good idea. I don’t agree, and Romney’s assertion that it should be a state decision is a fair one, so long as when those states which choose that model do not go to the federal gov’t to be bailed out when their program goes bankrupt. I couldn’t ever see myself moving to Mass. anyway. Too many rich socialist’s live there for my taste…

Danny on September 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Yes, of course it makes sense. Economic expansion is how jobs are created. And it is also how the government gets the revenues it needs to close our deficit without counter-productively raising tax rates. This is Conservatism 101. Are you really that daft as to not see that? You aren’t just “unseen” you are entirely “unseeing!” Blind as bat.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:27 AM

it boilerplate garbage that means nothing. You don’t get economic growth without jobs. And the government can’t create jobs.

He also recognizes the need both to lower rates and to broaden the tax base so that taxation becomes an instrument for promoting economic growth

So I guess when Mitt says taxation is an instrument for promoting economic growth he isn’t practicing conservatism 101?

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:50 AM

You are clueless. That measure will allow American businesses to bring their profits here to invest without the prohibitive penalties they now face!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:45 AM

yeah let’s give the power to form our tax rate to other countries. Maybe we can form a super committee. you want profits to return lower the tax rate to below other countries. Better yet reduce it to 0%

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

He’s still stewing about your “Blogging for Dummies” remark regarding his fountain of wisdom personal blog

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Let’s see your blog, grand savant. Or do you just prefer to take your misery out on the comments section?

RepubChica on September 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Danny on September 30, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Thank you for deciding to read it over. I say that because I look forward to talking about the candidates’ ideas and not their personalities.

None of us are happy about RomneyCare. However, my dissatisfaction is mitigated by his vow to give greater control to the states and not the Feds. This allows MA to screw up and only effect those in MA. And it allows other states to learn from those mistakes and seek their own solutions. Our founders intended for us to have such competition among states. And if the laws of MA are too onerous for someone, they are free to move another state. When the entire Fed has pernicious laws we cannot leave for a state more to our liking.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Jesus Christ, I get up at the crack of 11 and you guys are still at it?

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM

The Nile – You have nothing, you know I’m right, and it pisses you off. Boo-Hoo mudhoney.

budfox on September 30, 2011 at 12:28 AM

And what have you got? Psychopolitical speculation at best, pure gasbaggery at worst.

rrpjr on September 30, 2011 at 10:57 AM

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Hey genius, businesses that operate overseas already impose their tax burdens on those companies! There is no way to change that. Romney’s plan would remove the ADDITIONAL burden of America punishing them for bringing their operations back home.

Your reference to Other’s 0% corporate income tax further cements your reputation as beyond dull. Without treating capital gains as earned income or otherwise reworking the personal income tax to compensate we will create a massively unbalanced and regressive system where the poor will indeed be paying for the rich.

This is not class warfare, it is simple common sense. Warren Buffett lies when he says that he pays less than working people. That is because his gains are taxed at 35% at the corporate level before he pays his 15% on his gains. You would have him paying only 15% when the rest of us pay 20-40% in income tax!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 11:00 AM

I was just thinking about Romney as President.

The establishment could work with him. No problem

But they would hate the fact they had to come to Romney of all people to get their candy.

Reminds me of a great movie, A Place in the Sun, with Elizabeth Taylor and Montgomery Clift. Clift makes low class Shelly Winters pregnant, just as he gets a chance at Taylor and joining the Country Club set. He takes Winters on a canoe jaunt and pushes her overboard. Glug glug. Unfortunately she floats up.

That’s the problem. The Country Club set knows the lesson of that movie. They know the canoe gig doesn’t work. But they understand Monty’s dilemma. Hanging out at the Club would suck. They would live in fear Romney would be there slapping backs, trading jokes. Want something done, see Romney. Need a favor? See Romney.

I can’t help it. ROFL. Golf with Romney. No wonder Boehner was tearing up the greens with Obama. Got to enjoy it while you can

entagor on September 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Let’s see your blog, grand savant. Or do you just prefer to take your misery out on the comments section?

RepubChica on September 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

My sense of self-worth is good enough that I don’t need to put up some blog that gets a couple of comments a month (as do 99% of all blogs).
As for misery, I like my life and enjoy it.

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM

1. Lowering capital gains tax to 25%.
2. Reforming the income tax to make it flatter and without all the loopholes, credits, etc.
3. Implementing a territorial tax to remove the penalty on business of repatriating their profits.
4. Encouraging the middle class to save and invest by eliminating our capital gains, dividend and interest taxes, which will make more money available for business as well.
5. Seriously pressuring China and others to respect intellectual property.
6. Introducing legislation to repeal the pernicious aspects of Dodd-Franks.
7. Rolling back most of the Obama era regulations.
8. Granting permits for oil and gas exploration.
9. Reforming the EPA and other job-destroying agencies.

and more. But none of that interests you. Not when there are glib, vague generalities to be imbibed and funny zingers to amuse you.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:44 AM

1) long term capital gains rate is already at 15% and at 0% for thiose in the lower brackets. I can then only assume Mitt is talkign about lowering the short term capital gains rate which does nothing but help wall street trade more shares.

2) I can live with

3) Mitt wants to give up mopre of the USA soverignity and give power to other countries to set america’s tax rates. Mitt the globalist strikes again

4) Long term capital gains rates are already at 15%, quailified dividends are also taxed at 15% cutting them to zero will simply expand the class warfare raging in the country. As labor income is taxed more than capital income.

5) Mitt will start a trade war with China. and until the fed stops printing money out of thin air the USa has no ground to stand on about currency.

6) Why not repeal the entire bill it is a bad bill. Of cou8rse Mitt doesn’t want to do that because there are things in the bill that help his friends.

7) why not roll back all of them. which ones will he roll back? another boilerplate statement by Mitt.

8) the granting of permits is a good idea but unless you also expand the areas to drill to places like ANWR it will not make us energy independent. It will help control the price of energy which is better than nothing.

9) reforming them how? that is simply talk points 101 tell the natives what they want to hear….

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Typical. Palin’s face. The same handful of fans posting over and over and over.

Now, it’s Friday. Time for a fresh one to get posted any minute now for the weekend.

Either Palin doesn’t run, and predicted all along, or Palin runs and heads to single digit numbers fast while Palin fans whine about establishment conspiracy theories or something.

Either way, you get laughed at.

Moesart on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Jesus Christ, I get up at the crack of 11 and you guys are still at it?

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 10:55 AM

@Lanceman – common sense conservatives get up much earlier than that. Embrace your conservative spirit – Sarah

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Either way, you get laughed at.

Moesart on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

I heard Unseen is designing the Mt Rushmore addition for her…

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 11:09 AM

My sense of self-worth is good enough that I don’t need to put up some blog that gets a couple of comments a month (as do 99% of all blogs).
As for misery, I like my life and enjoy it.

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Man, Skippy. You gravely underestimate me.
Clueless as ever.

Gracias, Chica, mi amiga.

kingsjester on September 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM

kingsjester on September 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM

But I’m living rent free in your head as you always reply.

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Hey genius, businesses that operate overseas already impose their tax burdens on those companies! There is no way to change that. Romney’s plan would remove the ADDITIONAL burden of America punishing them for bringing their operations back home.

Your reference to Other’s 0% corporate income tax further cements your reputation as beyond dull. Without treating capital gains as earned income or otherwise reworking the personal income tax to compensate we will create a massively unbalanced and regressive system where the poor will indeed be paying for the rich.

This is not class warfare, it is simple common sense. Warren Buffett lies when he says that he pays less than working people. That is because his gains are taxed at 35% at the corporate level before he pays his 15% on his gains. You would have him paying only 15% when the rest of us pay 20-40% in income tax!

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 11:00 AM

corpations don’t pay taxes they simply pass the cost along to the consumers and who the hell cares what buffet says at this stage? buffet takes most of his income in stock and doesn’t cash out. thereby getting the long term capital gain treatment of 15%.

You reduce the corp tax to 0% and those companies rush to the USa to set up shop.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Twelve hours later, unseen is still guarding his precious Sarah Palin thread swatting anyone who’s a non-believer with his silly conspiracy theories that Sarah Palin will be the next President of the United States.

Because everyone knows that it’s proof, the non-candidate with the longest thread and the most posts has to be the winner.

Knucklehead on September 30, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM

You fired the first shot. Who is living rent-free in whose head, Troll?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp…all in one thread. Trollapalooza!

kingsjester on September 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM

ommon sense conservatives get up much earlier than that.

Bradky on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Heh. What would you know about common sense? Tell you what, if I need pointers on ridicule, I’ll call ya.

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM

1) long term capital gains rate is already at 15% and at 0% for thiose in the lower brackets. I can then only assume Mitt is talkign about lowering the short term capital gains rate which does nothing but help wall street trade more shares.

My mistake. I meant corporate income tax.

2) I can live with

3) Mitt wants to give up mopre of the USA soverignity and give power to other countries to set america’s tax rates. Mitt the globalist strikes again

No, I explained to you. He wants reduce the ADDITIONAL burden on top of what foreign nations take. Learn before you open your gob.

4) Long term capital gains rates are already at 15%, quailified dividends are also taxed at 15% cutting them to zero will simply expand the class warfare raging in the country. As labor income is taxed more than capital income.

This is the way that middle class people will be able to save and invest. It will allow us to have our savings treated the same as if they were in an IRA or 401K without the restrictions and penalties. This is a brilliant idea! It is how normal people will be able to recover from the ravages of PBHO who has forced so many to liquidate everything they have saved to get by.

5) Mitt will start a trade war with China. and until the fed stops printing money out of thin air the USa has no ground to stand on about currency.

Pure ignorant FUD. The biggest problem with the ChiComs is that they steal our ideas. Mitt will insist on leveling the playing field.

6) Why not repeal the entire bill it is a bad bill. Of cou8rse Mitt doesn’t want to do that because there are things in the bill that help his friends.

No, all of it is not bad.

7) why not roll back all of them. which ones will he roll back? another boilerplate statement by Mitt.

READ THE PLAN FOR DETAILS!

8) the granting of permits is a good idea but unless you also expand the areas to drill to places like ANWR it will not make us energy independent. It will help control the price of energy which is better than nothing.

He will. READ THE FREAKING PLAN BEFORE MOUTHING OFF!

9) reforming them how? that is simply talk points 101 tell the natives what they want to hear….

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 11:06 AM

He will. READ THE FREAKING PLAN BEFORE MOUTHING OFF!

Sorry, I am not going to copy his 160 page plan here. If you won’t read it, then you have no fricking clue what your are even criticizing. You’re just trolling.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Moe, Larry, and Shemp…all in one thread. Trollapalooza!

kingsjester on September 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Shemp was always my favorite.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Et tu, Bruti?

Lanceman on September 30, 2011 at 11:23 AM

I believe that Mr. Obama and his fellow communist radicals are doing more toward destroying this country, since he took office, than the damage inflicted by the Muslim terrorists on 9/11, and since. Our national “air space” has been violated by this liar and thief. There, I said it. I believe Sarah Palin is the only one who has enough Wisdom and the intellect and the Goodness and the will to stop this madness and bring us back. Unfortunately, the current GOP candidates lack the Character and the ability (you need both) to do the job right. Dear Sarah, We need you. Sincerely, We the People.

Landon Thompson on September 30, 2011 at 11:27 AM

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM

I agree that each state has specific health care needs that should be the state’s responsibility… such as crafting a safety-net health-care plan…

Regarding Romney’s plan, while I was looking for it on the web, I had found the following IBD.com editorial regarding Romney’s proposal… Is this a fair criticism? [Reading the plan will probably take me the weekend to finish...]

Mitt’s Mealy-Mouthed Jobs Plan

Posted 09/07/2011 06:40 PM ET

Election ’12: At more than 150 pages, Mitt Romney’s long-winded “jobs plan” is an attempt to portray him as the candidate of substance. Unfortunately, it’s more a pondering than a plan.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Romney, who until the recent entry of Texas Gov. Rick Perry was the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, is taking a key lesson from Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign playbook.
With “the economy, stupid” being the prevailing issue for voters, and then-President George H.W. Bush widely considered detached from people’s problems, Clinton published a lengthy “National Economic Strategy.”
Then the Arkansas governor rendered Democratic rivals impotent by unceasingly telling interviewers, debate moderators, and town hall crowds that “I’m the only person running who’s got a plan to do something about the fix we’re in.”
Romney’s vulnerability with primary voters is that he is the candidate of the GOP establishment, signed an ObamaCare-like individual mandate into law in Massachusetts, and has flip-flopped on issues ranging from the stimulus, carbon emission caps, capital gains taxes and abortion.
But Clinton had a reputation for questionable trustworthiness, too — even breaking a 1990 gubernatorial campaign promise that he would “absolutely, positively” not run for president. And putting a wordy economic plan on paper and getting it out there for the public and the media to see counteracted the negative of slickness with the positive of substance.
Will “Believe in America: Mitt Romney’s Plan for Jobs and Economic Growth” do something similar for the former private equity whiz?
It should not. Because as verbose as the Romney document is, touted as “59 specific proposals — including 10 concrete actions I will take on my first day in office — to turn around America’s economy,” it’s a stretch even calling it a “plan.” It’s more a collection of teases and maybes.
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Take taxation. “Believe in America” tells us that “Mitt Romney believes in holding the line against increases in marginal tax rates.” But in spite of signing the Americans for Tax Reform pledge to “oppose any and all efforts to increase the marginal income tax rates for individuals and/or businesses,” Romney won’t simply promise — in plain language without hedging — not to raise taxes, or even income tax rates.
Instead, he “believes in” it.
Romney says, “the lower rates established by President Bush should be regarded as a directional marker on the road to more fundamental reform.” Why not just promise to maintain those tax rates?
And what kind of tax reform? “In the long run, Mitt Romney will pursue a conservative overhaul of the tax system that includes lower and flatter rates on a broader tax base.”
“Long run,” “pursue,” “flatter” rather than flat — there are just too many weasel words here.
Even when it comes to the sections titled “Eliminate the Death Tax” and “Lower the Corporate Tax Rate,” rather than ironclad promises we read that “As president, Mitt Romney will work to eliminate the tax permanently” and “As president, Romney will press for an immediate reduction of the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%.”
Does that mean these steps will happen or will he just give it a shot?
The word “pledge” is not, in fact, among the document’s words. And the only time Romney uses the word “promise” to describe any of his proposals is in saying “we must keep the promises made to our current retirees” on Social Security and Medicare benefits and “the promises that we make to younger generations” should be “promises we can keep.”
History is filled with politicians who break promises. Romney won’t promise not to break his nonpromises.

Danny on September 30, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Today on Fox: Palin will assess the campaigns of Mitch Romney, Josh Huntsman, Rip Perry, Herb Cain and Rod Paul.

Knucklehead on September 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM

This is the way that middle class people will be able to save and invest. It will allow us to have our savings treated the same as if they were in an IRA or 401K without the restrictions and penalties. This is a brilliant idea! It is how normal people will be able to recover from the ravages of PBHO who has forced so many to liquidate everything they have saved to get by.

we have already been down this route with the income tax. Now 49% of the American people pay no income tax. Do you really want to do the same thing with capital income and expect a different result?

Pure ignorant FUD. The biggest problem with the ChiComs is that they steal our ideas. Mitt will insist on leveling the playing field.
MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM

no the problem with the chicoms is that the USa companies gave up the store to reduce labor costs and taxes and thought they would be treated well by the chicoms. If the USA companies want fairness from the chicoms I would suggest they bring their plants back to the usa.

If you won’t read it, then you have no fricking clue what your are even criticizing. You’re just trolling.

MJBrutus on September 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM

oh the irony is great coming from someone that refuses to read even a short facebook post.

unseen on September 30, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Twelve hours later, unseen is still guarding his precious Sarah Palin thread swatting anyone who’s a non-believer with his silly conspiracy theories that Sarah Palin will be the next President of the United States.

Because everyone knows that it’s proof, the non-candidate with the longest thread and the most posts has to be the winner.

Knucklehead on September 30, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Why does it bother you? Why do you and all the other nasty, hateful anti-Palin nuts go out of their way to post on threads when you hate Palin and anyone who supports her?

The only reason you comment is you enjoy making snide, hateful comments.

darwin on September 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM

You fired the first shot. Who is living rent-free in whose head, Troll?

Moe, Larry, and Shemp…all in one thread. Trollapalooza!

kingsjester on September 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM

No, you started it and he slapped your hand for it.

csdeven on September 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM

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