Democrats oddly unenthusiastic about voting in 2012

posted at 10:05 am on September 29, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

If Barack Obama won his 2008 election based on voter enthusiasm, then he’s got a very, very big problem rolling into next year.  According to Gallup, enthusiasm among Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents has dropped to a decade-long low:

In thinking about the 2012 presidential election, 45% of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic say they are more enthusiastic about voting than usual, while nearly as many, 44%, are less enthusiastic. This is in sharp contrast to 2008 and, to a lesser extent, 2004, when the great majority of Democrats expressed heightened enthusiasm about voting.

Here’s the graph, which shows the problem quite clearly:

Interestingly, Democratic enthusiasm dropped significantly in the primary seasons of both 2004 and 2008, although not below 51%, and rebounded sharply after the nominees had been locked into place.  In the year prior to both elections, enthusiasm had been at least significant.  In 2004, Gallup’s Democratic enthusiasm index hit the mid-60s, and that produced not just a win for George Bush but also for Republicans in the House and Senate.  Imagine what a 45% on the enthusiasm index would produce in 2012.

Well, we keep hearing that this enthusiasm problem affects voters across the spectrum, that politics has gotten so partisan that it’s turning everybody off.  Is that true?  Gallup surveyed Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, and the answer is … no:

Democrats’ muted response to voting in 2012 also contrasts with Republicans’ eagerness. Nearly 6 in 10 Republicans, 58%, describe themselves as more enthusiastic about voting. That is nearly identical to Republicans’ average level of enthusiasm in 2004 (59%) and higher than it was at most points in 2008.

In 2004 at election time, it was 69%, and 65% in 2008.  Republicans probably need to get a little more fired up in the coming months, but they are a lot more enthusiastic than their counterparts.  I’d guess that their enthusiasm and Democratic lack of enthusiasm come from the exact same source, and unfortunately for Democrats, that source will be at the top of the ticket in 2012.  That’s change in which everyone can believe.

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Democrats unenthusiatic?..I see now why Bev Perdue floated the trial balloon!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 29, 2011 at 10:10 AM

None of this matters if the GOP President doesn’t overturn Obamacare.

That’s the whole ball of wax.

fossten on September 29, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Very good news for us

hawkman on September 29, 2011 at 10:11 AM

I was in town buying gasoline that other day. Next pump over was a standard issue, 15 yr old, lib bumper stickered, Volvo wagon. I saw the Obama/Biden sticker right away, but the middle of it looked unreadable. I went closer and saw a smaller black sticker with white letters covering the center.

It read, “No One For President 2012.” My first thought was that I’d count it as a win if they just didn’t vote at all.

TugboatPhil on September 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM

The enthusiasm gap will probably grow wider.

forest on September 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM

It was the same way in 2010. However, the enthusiasm gap still left us with Reid in Nevada and Bennett in Colorado.

In 2012 we need better candidates and better messaging. And we better be ready for “They’re Going to Kill Women and the Elderly Because They Want to Get Rid of Obamacare” campaigns.

Nethicus on September 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Given that Democraps nor Republicans even know who the GOP nominee is makes it even more delicious.

Akzed on September 29, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I’m voting with my enthusiasm as many times as I can.

docflash on September 29, 2011 at 10:14 AM

If dem enthusiam continues to drop, imagine what a buffoon he will look like with styro columns, reverberating sound and lit halo rings in the local Kiwanis Club Lodge. His denial is going to be my pleasure for the next year.

sherry on September 29, 2011 at 10:17 AM

And we better be ready for “They’re Going to Kill Women and the Elderly Because They Want to Get Rid of Obamacare” campaigns.

Nethicus on September 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM

I’m betting that someone in Hollywood is already pitching a reality show where actual women and seniors will be dragged from hospitals by “Tea Partiers” and killed in the parking lot. Naturally there will be a crowd of Republicans cheering the show.

Alternate weeks will have racist Tea Partiers (as if there were any other kind) burning crosses and the homes of blacks and latinos.

TugboatPhil on September 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Democrats oddly unenthusiastic about voting in 2012—Liberal Media, Old ladies Going Off Cliffs, Hardest Hit.

sidenote: “The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin” by Joe McGinniss sold a total of just 6,034 copies in the first week. Warehouse sales were also slow for “The Rogue,” with Ingram inventory barely dropping at all the first three days this week.

In the Northeast, which includes New York and is a region where big national books often do best, “The Rogue” sold just 442 copies in the first week. link

Blockbuster!

Rovin on September 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM

I don’t blame them. They probably figure that if 53% of the electorate were stupid enough to vote for Obama (and supermajorities)in 2008, there is a chance many are still that stupid.

neuquenguy on September 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Unexpectedly!

Washington Nearsider on September 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Eh, PBHO will grease the public palm heavily next year, promising even more if he is reelected. Never ever ever never ever discount the strength of vote buying by a demorat.

Bishop on September 29, 2011 at 10:22 AM

It read, “No One For President 2012.”

Clearly, he’s a Bev Perdue believer.

Washington Nearsider on September 29, 2011 at 10:22 AM

fossten on September 29, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Agreed, and possible Supreme Court picks as well, me thinks..

Static21 on September 29, 2011 at 10:23 AM

And we better be ready for “They’re Going to Kill Women and the Elderly Because They Want to Get Rid of Obamacare”

Let’s hope Justice Kennedy does the right thing

Uncledave on September 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Some advice from my father:

Think of a person you know who is of average intelligence. Recognize that half of the country is dumber than that person. Realize that they vote.

A lack of enthusiasm about Obama is the single greatest exploitable weakness we can use against those who don’t pay attention to politics but instead vote on their feelings.

Washington Nearsider on September 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM

I’m in the MA suburbs and s-u-r-r-o-u-n-d-e-d by libtards. From 2000 on, the daily Bush barrage was deafening. Everywhere you went, you overheard someone on chimpBUSHitler, Selected not Elected!

Early last year though, I noticed a definite fade. And now? Crickets! It is almost as if nothing beyond the local level is happening politically. I bet a large chunk does indeed stay home.

roy_batty on September 29, 2011 at 10:26 AM

It’s because, deep down in their hearts, they know he’s a SCOAMF. Of course, they are welcome to join in singing NA NA NA NA, HEYYYYY, GOOOODBYE! to Barry and Michelle on January 20, 2013.

Christien on September 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Washington Nearsider on September 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM

I’m thinking that NOW is the time to not only legalize pot, but to make sure it is available for free in Dem voting districts for a week prior to election day.

TugboatPhil on September 29, 2011 at 10:32 AM

What we need is a mechanism to suspend elections when voters are unenthusiastic. What is the point of an election if voters aren’t enthusiastic about it? Either that or grant more votes to unenthusiastic voters in order to make the process fair. Fairness and equality of outcome are what the Founders wanted after all.

NotCoach on September 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Put on your slippers, pick up the bong and stay on the couch!

Naturally Curly on September 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Democrats unenthusiatic?..I see now why Bev Perdue floated the trial balloon!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 29, 2011 at 10:10 AM

You’re obviously not listening to Debbie Wasserman Schultz: “We own the economy. We own the beginning of the turnaround and we want to make sure that we continue that pace of recovery….”

Bev Perdue and Debbie too! We’re in good hands.

Rovin on September 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Bev Perdue and Debbie too! We’re in good hands.

Rovin on September 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Excellent point!..:)

Dire Straits on September 29, 2011 at 10:34 AM

TugboatPhil on September 29, 2011 at 10:12 AM

I always pass a silver Honda when I am walking through the parking lot of where I work. It has two BO/JB stickers and then one that just says “DEM.”

Need I say more?

RDE2010 on September 29, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Pelosi’s relatives will be voting enthusiastically.

a capella on September 29, 2011 at 10:43 AM

I’m betting that someone in Hollywood is already pitching a reality show where actual women and seniors will be dragged from hospitals by “Tea Partiers” and killed in the parking lot. Naturally there will be a crowd of Republicans cheering the show.

Alternate weeks will have racist Tea Partiers (as if there were any other kind) burning crosses and the homes of blacks and latinos.

TugboatPhil on September 29, 2011 at 10:21 AM

They already did that. And Michelle Obama was the star of the show.

Key West Reader on September 29, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Alternate headline reads: DEAD PEOPLE AND COMIC STRIP CHARACTERS VERY ENTHUSIATIC ABOUT VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS IN 2012…

Ltlgeneral64 on September 29, 2011 at 10:52 AM

ACORN is rallying their troops as I type.

capejasmine on September 29, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Dire Straits on September 29, 2011 at 10:10 AM

good catch :)

cmsinaz on September 29, 2011 at 10:55 AM

This is a broken-glass election. My unemployed friends and relatives will crawl over broken glass to get the chance to be rid of this miserable failure of a President.

theCork on September 29, 2011 at 10:56 AM

You don’t need to be enthusiastic when your voters are dead, homeless or incarcerated, you have same day registration for carloads of roving ACORN activists and you control the ballot counting process.

Al Franken ring a bell?

Jeez Ed, short memory.

Bruno Strozek on September 29, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Naturally Curly on September 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM

this

cmsinaz on September 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Whoa- a little off topic, but when you Jersery….

Associated Press |

MADISON — Seven in 10 registered voters in New Jersey surveyed believe the country is on the wrong track and many blame President Barack Obama.

Thursday’s PublicMind Poll released by Fairleigh Dickinson University finds fewer than one-fifth of voters surveyed said the nation was headed in the right direction.

That’s the survey’s lowest result since October 2008. The poll finds New Jersey far more pessimistic than four months ago, when one-third said the nation was heading the right way.

Obama’s approval rating was 44 percent, down from 56 percent in May. It’s the first time Obama’s approval rating was lower than his disapproval rating in the poll. The telephone survey of 800 randomly registered voters was conducted Sept. 19-25 and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

Beaglemom on September 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM

make that “When you lose Jersey–”

Beaglemom on September 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Obama’s approval rating was 44 percent, down from 56 percent in May. It’s the first time Obama’s approval rating was lower than his disapproval rating in the poll. The telephone survey of 800 randomly registered voters was conducted Sept. 19-25 and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

Beaglemom on September 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Did the Fairleigh Ridiculous poll say anything about Chris Christie’s approval rating?

Steve Z on September 29, 2011 at 11:05 AM

In 2004, Gallup’s Democratic enthusiasm index hit the mid-60s, and that produced not just a win for George Bush but also for Republicans in the House and Senate. Imagine what a 45% on the enthusiasm index would produce in 2012.

I do imagine it, and it makes me smile.

UltimateBob on September 29, 2011 at 11:08 AM

I spent last evening with Jerome Corsi. He gave a talk on his book “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” Great stuff! He’s still digging and documenting, and now he has Sheriff Joe Arpaio into it with his Cold Case Posse.

CERTIFIGATE
Sheriff Joe ‘knows what he’s doing’ in Obama probe
’3 years into the presidency, we really don’t know who this guy is’

ornery_independent on September 29, 2011 at 11:09 AM

I have said before obama will not get 42,000,000 votes.
People whine about Palin or others not being electable. How hard would it be for ANY GOPer to get 42,000,000 votes?

Lanceman on September 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

You don’t need to be enthusiastic when your voters are dead, homeless or incarcerated, you have same day registration for carloads of roving ACORN activists and you control the ballot counting process.

Bruno Strozek on September 29, 2011 at 10:57 AM

They are also fond of nursing homes where dementia patients mysteriously “vote” if they can still sign their names. And, don’t forget:

A group backed by Soros is gearing up to steal the 2012 election for President Obama and congressional Democrats by installing left-wing Democrats as secretaries of state across the nation. From such posts, secretaries of state can help tilt the electoral playing field.

Fallon on September 29, 2011 at 11:20 AM

A group backed by Soros is gearing up to steal the 2012 election for President Obama and congressional Democrats by installing left-wing Democrats as secretaries of state across the nation. From such posts, secretaries of state can help tilt the electoral playing field.

Fallon on September 29, 2011 at 11:20 AM

This is old news. The SOS Project. Gonna be hard to do with Rethuglican legislatures.

In 2000, after Katherine Harris tried to certify the election for Bush, national ‘rats tried to stop her. Our House leader, a Republican basically said “Enough with this sh!t!” He had assembled the Republican legislature, passed a resolution that made the majority Republican legislature the electors, and was prepared to head to the electoral college until the FL supreme court was struck down the SECOND time by SCOTUS.

And believe me, they (the legislature) were well within their right to do just that. There IS NO RIGHT TO VOTE in any federal election. If a state wants to, they can declare the Harlem Globetrotters the electors.

Lanceman on September 29, 2011 at 11:30 AM

In 2000, after Katherine Harris tried to certify the election for Bush, national ‘rats tried to stop her.

My wife knows and likes Katherine Harris. She really got a bum rap on this.

ornery_independent on September 29, 2011 at 11:42 AM

What kind of plethysmograph is used to measure voting enthusiasm?

borntoraisehogs on September 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM

My wife knows and likes Katherine Harris. She really got a bum rap on this.

ornery_independent on September 29, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Of course. Harris simply followed the law and was attacked for it. That led to the democratics’ favorite Nazi stooge George Soros launching his Secretary of State project.

slickwillie2001 on September 29, 2011 at 12:02 PM

Washington Nearsider on September 29, 2011 at 10:24 AM

Very good. I like that.

Mirimichi on September 29, 2011 at 12:05 PM

Yes, we have to vote early and often, just like ACORN and the Dimorats…

Khun Joe on September 29, 2011 at 12:06 PM

The Dems know they got a pig in a poke with Barack Obama, but still, they can’t bring themselves to vote for a Republican. So, yeah, lots of them will stay home come election day. We won’t miss them.

RebeccaH on September 29, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Keep the House.

Get the Senate.

Hand re-election to Obama on a platinum platter, in a time when a candle holder could beat him.

Schadenfreude on September 29, 2011 at 12:26 PM

The Obamacrats are running scared and searching for a way to add some enthusiasm to their base.

As evidence to what’s possibly coming around the corner, last night, I got a short robo phone poll call that asked should Obama have Hillary or Biden as VP in the coming election. As I recall the only other questions were about party affiliation, race and my age. Short and sweet, no asking for donation$, no person to talk to, just listen to the prerecorded message and push a button according to my response.

So don’t be surprised if pretty soon, there’s some more feelers out there about dumping Biden and adding Hillary to the ticket as a means to create some enthusiasm beyond their extreme Blue/Green base. My guess is this may start with the PRESSSSident reporting on some new gaff that Joe gaff that starts the process of pushing Joe under the bus…

This also means that Obama’s Class Warfare strategy has wrapped up the Blue/Green base so no Democrat (aka Hillary) can run a primary challenge to the One. After O’s recent campaign sweeps, the Blue/Green bucks are pretty much totally committed to Obama, there’s simply no left wing money left…

Go figure, this is also why, outside of the Blue/Green base, there’s also not much enthusiasm left to spread around. It’s like rank & file Dems are all being forced to give up a nice Sunday Football afternoon to line up at the local theater to watch the sequel to a really bad movie (Nightmare on Pennsylvania Street) — as if changing some names on the marquee will actually fix the Nightmare’s sequel when the plot is just more of the same… Go figure why the rank & file probably feel they’ve got something else better to do…

drfredc on September 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Fired up! Ready to go!Fired up! Ready to go!Fired up! Ready to go! – Barry 0bama

Yes, yes I am fired up and ready to go to the polls, Zer0bama! Thanks! Can’t wait to vote your oil and coal industry destroying, gulf oil spill ignoring, private company nationalizing, rabble rousing, plethora vacation taking, golf course stalking, illegal gun-running, race card playing, happy a$$ out of office…I would drag a team of wild horses while crawling across broken glass and lemon juice naked to vote against you. Heck, I’d even vote for Mitt over you…

So thanks again for firing me up…

Battlecruiser-operational on September 29, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Zero’s ability to read a speech ain’t gonna cut it in 2012. We need someone to stop the Gov’ment is the Answer Bus, and let businesses create the jobs. Less taxes,less mandates and Drill Baby Drill.

la.rt.wngr on September 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM