Feds bust alleged American jihadi for plotting to hit Pentagon, Capitol with remote controlled planes

posted at 5:37 pm on September 28, 2011 by Allahpundit

His name is Rezwan Ferdaus and, yes, he’s a U.S. citizen. Via TPM, you’ll find the FBI affidavit embedded below. A few lowlights: Paragraph 12 describes how he got hooked on jihadi propaganda; paragraph 18 notes his desire to attack, if not the Pentagon and the Capitol, at least a subway station or military base; paragraph 27 claims he wanted to train overseas with the jihadi A-team; paragraph 40 flags the fact that he thought killing women and children was okay since they are, after all, kaffir; paragraph 63 chronicles his excitement upon being told (falsely) that cell-phone detonators he had built to trigger IEDs had killed American troops in Iraq; and paragraph 75 asserts that he’d hoped to make 20 or 30 such detonators every single week. (In fact, per paragraph 80, he made a training video on how to build the detonators just eight days ago.)

Ambitious guy. Big plans.

Ferdaus allegedly gave the undercover FBI agents a detailed set of attack plans “with step-by-step instructions as to how he planned to attack the Pentagon and Capitol,” according to the Department of Justice.

The plans focused on the use of three small remote-controlled drone-like aircraft loaded with C-4 plastic explosives, which he planned to fly into the Capitol and the Pentagon using GPS equipment, according to the DOJ…

According to the DOJ, Ferdaus aimed to create a devastating psychological impact with the attacks, saying at one point, “I just can’t stop; there is no other choice for me.”…

For the past five months, Ferdaus has allegedly been stockpiling the equipment he needed for his proposed attack, including a remote controlled aircraft, 25 pounds of fake C-4 explosives, six automatic AK-47 assault rifles and three grenades, according to the DOJ. He allegedly kept all of it in a storage facility in Massachusetts, where he was arrested.

Go over to TPM and check out the embarrassing “surveillance” photo Ferdaus took of the Pentagon. Then go look at the photo Dan Foster found, which appears to be of Ferdaus, showing a guy in a Bulls jersey playing drums in a punk band. According to the affidavit, he started plotting an attack in early 2010, but there are no details about his background, when he started to “turn” from angry punk to would-be mujahid, how the FBI first got wind of the plot, and so forth. The paradox of guys like this is that they’re incredibly dangerous — note the arsenal Ferdaus assembled described in the blockquote — but to some extent the plot seems like some bizarre fantasy for them. There are a million photos of the Pentagon online, virtually all of them better than the one Ferdaus took, but a “real” jihadi conducts his own surveillance so that’s what he did. If he was intent on killing Americans, he could have bought a couple of pistols and walked into a mall or a recruiting center somewhere and done it, but a “real” jihadi insists on elaborate plots that take months to plan and involve lots of personnel and explosions — so that’s what Ferdaus did. Even his idea of using remote-controlled planes feels like scaled-down mimickry of 9/11. That is to say, his insistence on following the “jihadi M.O.” ended up making him a less stealthy, less effective jihadi. Here’s to amateurs.

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Religion of Peace, of course… After the creeps put the pastor to death in Iran. Gotta love their idea of justice, kindness and love for their fellow man…

/sarc!!!

chai on September 28, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Carmen Ortiz, the US Attorney who announced the arrest, said ““I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus’ conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion.”

bayview on September 28, 2011 at 5:43 PM

…six automatic AK-47 assault rifles and three grenades, according to the DOJ.

“According to” or “supplied by”?

Bruce MacMahon on September 28, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Also, this simply can’t be true. Massachusetts, we’re told, has the “most effective gun laws in the nation”. No way a criminal could ever acquire such weaponry via unlawful channels. Simply. No. Way.

Bruce MacMahon on September 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM

How typical of those intolerant Christians.

/s

stvnscott on September 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Carmen Ortiz, the US Attorney who announced the arrest, said ““I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus’ conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion.”

bayview on September 28, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Riiiiiight. It’s just the same as those Amish.They weren’t going to use the remote controlled planes though, they were going to use bomb laden horse buggies… Diabolical..

sandee on September 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

They should charge him with treason, but of course they won’t.

At least he’ll be in big trouble for having six AK-47s in gun banning Massachusetts.

cool breeze on September 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Clearly cameras are terrorist weapons and need to be banned.

pedestrian on September 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM

is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion.”

RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bambi on September 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

can we please hang him for treason ASAP?

jp on September 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

RC airplane enthusiasts should prepare for the coming government crackdown. That guy behind the counter at the hobby shop just might be an undercover informant.

Mark1971 on September 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Just another white, free market capitalist, Christian, middle-aged, law abiding, tax paying, legal gun owning Tea Party crazeeee probably upset over Obamacare.

Oh, wait…….

Flyboy on September 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

The thing that I want to know…. Where was he going to get C-4? You can’t just go buy it at your friendly neighborhood gun and explosives store.

Long before 9-11 I was a licensed blaster and even I couldn’t get C-4 or anything similar back then.

LegendHasIt on September 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Did the Feds “walk” remote controls or planes to them?

Lon Chaney on September 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

If he was intent on killing Americans, he could have bought a couple of pistols and walked into a mall or a recruiting center somewhere and done it,

Yes, he could but that involves getting killed back. Less appealing no doubt.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Ashland isn’t exactly Norman Rockwell’s New England, not quite rural enough for that, but it’s pretty close. But don’t look upon members of that certain religion with suspicion.

Little Boomer on September 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I knew this was going to come,remote c-4 stuffed planes as missiles!

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Good to know we hadn’t dedicated all our criminal investigative resources to Gibson Guitars.

rrpjr on September 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM

So this guy was going to take some RC airplanes and 25 lbs of C-4 split between them and then CCCCRRRRRAAAASSSSHHHH! them into the pentagon.

Was his goal to break a window? I’m kinda doubting it’d even do that.

Not to take away the seriousness of this, lock the guy up and toss the key in the Potomac. I just find it a bit humorous that he felt like this would have any significant impact.

I’m really glad that a super-majority of jihadis are stupid. One day they’ll wise up and do something really terrifying, like drive a combine through an elementary school recess in Iowa or something like that.

Jason Coleman on September 28, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Good to know we hadn’t dedicated all our criminal investigative resources to Gibson Guitars.

rrpjr on September 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Yeah, but now they’ll be raiding hobby stores for selling balsa wood.

Mark1971 on September 28, 2011 at 5:59 PM

How typical of those intolerant Christians.

/s

stvnscott on September 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Rosie O’Donnell, is that you? ;-)

UltimateBob on September 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM

US Citizen Arrested For Terror Plots Against US Capitol, Pentagon
Posted at 5:15 PM ET, 9/28/2011
********************************

Shockingly, it turns out the alleged would-be terrorist isn’t an Episcopalian. Fancy that:
(More….)

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 6:04 PM

His little plot kinda bombed.

docflash on September 28, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Ashland isn’t exactly Norman Rockwell’s New England, not quite rural enough for that, but it’s pretty close.

Little Boomer on September 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

The downtown is nothing special, but the rest of the town is reasonably nice. That house is in quite a nice area, so it’s not going to help the “it’s poverty, not Islam” line.

As I recall, the last time Ashland was in national news was when a women woke up inside a body bag at a funeral home. She was thought to have drowned in her bathtub.

pedestrian on September 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM

SIX AUTOMATIC AK47s???

Was this guy rolling in cash or something? You know how expensive those are? Or did he illegally convert them to automatic weapons?

thphilli on September 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM

The comments at TPM are hilarious, and sad.

Once again, the FBI plots terrorism against American citizens and hires a Muslim to carry it out.

Has there ever been an incident of terrorism plotted against the United States that was not orchestrated by the FBI and or CIA?

Jason Coleman on September 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM

I remembered this video,and I wouldn’t want to be near it when it goes Ka-Blewy!

As an example,of the possible power that it can release,keep in
mind,it wasn’t packed tight with more explodey material!
==================================================

Jet powered RC Plane is the bomb!
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e96_1316026847

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Waiting for the “RightWing Extremist Terrorist” meme from the MSM,
or,Big Sis,or DOJ Holder!!

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Can we execute him pre-emptively? Let this maggot out and he’ll kill some citizen, guaranteed. I say just put a slug in his head and quit effing around.

Jaibones on September 28, 2011 at 6:19 PM

thphilli on September 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Fast and Furious?

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM

SIX AUTOMATIC AK47s???

Was this guy rolling in cash or something? You know how expensive those are? Or did he illegally convert them to automatic weapons?

thphilli on September 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Ramadan present from ATF.

/

amerpundit on September 28, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I’m not too worried about this guy, he’s an idiot.

It’s the smart ones I’m worried about. Hopefully we got all of those in Iraq and Afghanistan.

ZenDraken on September 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/209579.php

lots of good info here

UPDATE: J.M. Berger over at Intelwire has the affidavit which describes Ferdaus’ involvement. Not only was he on the receiving end of devices he thought would be used to blow up “kafirs” (his words), his degree in physics was used to help make IED detonators:

FERDAUS has modified to act as an electrical switch for an improvised explosive device (“IED”), to FBI undercover employees, who Ferdaus believed were members and recruiters for, al Qaeda, to purportedly be used to kill American soldiers stationed oversees…

After each subsequent delivery, FERDAUS was anxious to know how well each of his detonation devices had worked and how many Americans tthey had killed. When asked why he wanted to build these detonation devices, FERDAUS explained that he “wanted[ed] to hit the kafir [non-believer] armies and [kill] as many people as possible.”

Wow, so there’s no way he can play the ‘entrapment’ card as so many others are now claiming.

I’m still reading the supporting affidavit, so expect updates.

UPDATE: When radical leftism and radical Islamism meet online, bad things happen:

FERDAUS told the UCE’s that he realized more than a year ago from viewing jihadi websites and vidoes “how evil” America is & that jihad is the solution.

Something the radical left (see Chomsky) and radical Islam (see Qutb) share: all bad things can be traced to the root cause, America!

jp on September 28, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Another Tea party terrorist busted!

philw1776 on September 28, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Sooooo………………….the most important question,that
must be a burning in da back of a Liberals mind is:

was,Rezwan Ferdaus a member of any Tea Party Organization,
did he ever fantasize about being a Tea Party member,and..
……. …..

(snark)..

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 6:25 PM

And another burning question,was Rezwan Ferdaus ever,
a student of Bill Ayers!!!!

(snark).

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM

I’m not too worried about this guy, he’s an idiot.

ZenDraken on September 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM

The other people with a B.S. in Physics from Northeastern might disagree with you.

This guy was being played by the FBI, so of course he comes out looking an idiot.

pedestrian on September 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM

This guy was being played by the FBI, so of course he comes out looking an idiot.

pedestrian on September 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Yeah. He was probably encouraged by the FBI. Need a boogyman to scare the people into approving the PATRIOT ACT every couple years.

Snake307 on September 28, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Can we haz an indictment for treason?

So far in this war, Adam Gadahn is the only person indicted for treason that I’ve heard of.

But if what this guy is alleged to have done isn’t treason, I don’t know what is.

Steven Den Beste on September 28, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Hang him.

GarandFan on September 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Rezwan Ferdaus held over Pentagon and Capitol bomb plot
Undercover FBI agents allegedly supplied Ferdaus with a model plane

A 26-year-old US citizen has been arrested for plotting to fly explosive-packed, remote controlled planes into the Pentagon and the US Capitol in Washington DC.
28 September 2011 Last updated at 17:04 ET
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Undercover FBI agents allegedly supplied Ferdaus with a model plane
*******************************************************************

(Oh sh*t,it looks like the same one,from the LiveLeak linky,a F-4
Phantom!)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15101449

Btw,these aren’t prop jobs,they have little jet-engines that can go like h*ll!!
==================

An Example
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ARF PLUS 1/9.5 “F-4 ” PRO version Complete Kit

Power: 17~22Lb (7-11kg) thrust

http://www.skymasterjet.com/f4m.htm

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 6:37 PM

The Playboy bunny on the model plane was a nice touch.

JackOfClubs on September 28, 2011 at 6:38 PM

The other people with a B.S. in Physics from Northeastern might disagree with you.

pedestrian on September 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM

If that’s true, he should have stuck with physics.

Not to diminish the seriousness of the threat; he needs to be put away forever. It’s just that he could do so much more damage if he were truly smart, rather than, say “book smart”, or whatever kind of smart he is.

Of course, a truly smart person would never commit terrorist acts anyway. Much easer, more profitable, and possibly more damaging to run large Wall Street firms into the ground and then ask for bailouts.

ZenDraken on September 28, 2011 at 6:41 PM

SIX AUTOMATIC AK47s???

Was this guy rolling in cash or something? You know how expensive those are? Or did he illegally convert them to automatic weapons?

thphilli on September 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM

According to the document in the post. He only had the rifles for about 0.5 seconds before they arrested him.

The FBI provided the AK’s, after they handed them over to him, they arrested him.

So he didn’t buy them, nor did he convert them. . . unfortunately, it may be the AK’s that get him off on some of the charges on entrapment grounds.

Jason Coleman on September 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM

he wanted to train overseas with the jihadi A-team

I can just see him in court, claiming to pity the kaffools, telling the judge to cut the jibber-jabber, and swearing Hannibal, Face Man, or Murdock drugged him.

I love it when a jihadi plan doesn’t come together!

Christien on September 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM

At least he’ll be in big trouble for having six AK-47s in gun banning Massachusetts.

cool breeze on September 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Silly Breeze…we only enforce those laws against law abiding citizens. Criminals here in the PDRM have nothing to worry about…

RedMindBlueState on September 28, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Having been an RC enthusiast over the years and flying both planks and helos…you might be surprised at the carrying capacity some of these things could have. I tested a few of my helos and even a small 32 sized could easily fly with 10-12lbs of cargo while checking out some mounted camera setups(although that’s just direct lift, I never tried to actually “fly” one with any serious weight on it…I mean c’mon, who wants to crash several thousand dollars worth of aircraft and camera equipment trying to fly the edge of the envelope!) And my stuff was all smaller scale. That said…I have been wondering for years when some idjit was going to try this. Really, there are kits to build LARGE RC aircraft, and simple enough to build one from scratch. Look at the RC Helos they use in Japan as crop dusters…I think last I checked you could buy one of those things ready to fly for under 15k!

BadMojo on September 28, 2011 at 7:01 PM

An apparent homegrown Jihadist from Ashland, Mass.

Liar. You said he was from America.

mankai on September 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Was he poor and uneducated? I hear most terrorists are poor and uneducated.

The suspect, Rezwan Ferdaus, a graduate of Northeastern University with a degree in physics

Oh.

lorien1973 on September 28, 2011 at 7:29 PM

After each subsequent delivery, FERDAUS was anxious to know how well each of his detonation devices had worked and how many Americans tthey had killed. When asked why he wanted to build these detonation devices, FERDAUS explained that he “wanted[ed] to hit the kafir [non-believer] armies and [kill] as many people as possible.”

Yep. Sure sounds like no religion was involved. Glad the U.S. Attorney was able to straighten us out on that.

a capella on September 28, 2011 at 7:37 PM

25 lbs of C-4 probably wouldn’t even break a window on the new Pentagon.

The Pentagon essentially shrugged off a direct hit with a loaded jumbo (when compared to the TT, not belittleing the horror of the 9-11 Pentagon event).

They’ve since upgraded it to do even better in the event of a similar attack.

IF, and that’s a big IF, one could evade the phalanx guns and other new additions to Pentagon security designed to reach out and down incoming aircraft (including drones), the amount of C-4 those RC planes could carry would do little damage.

Jason Coleman on September 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM

…six automatic AK-47 assault rifles and three grenades, according to the DOJ.

“According to” or “supplied by”?

Bruce MacMahon on September 28, 2011 at 5:45 PM

ATF of course…..

Mark

mailmars on September 28, 2011 at 8:03 PM

The Playboy bunny on the model plane was a nice touch.

JackOfClubs on September 28, 2011 at 6:38 PM

JackOfClubs:Yup!!

canopfor on September 28, 2011 at 8:06 PM

No sympathy for Ferdaus, but not a lot of admiration for the way the FBI ran up the score on him, either. Once they knew he was acting alone, he should have been charged with the crimes he’d already committed, not been ‘helped’ to commit more crimes to no end except turning his arrest into a bigger story.

PersonFromPorlock on September 28, 2011 at 8:07 PM

I hope the rest of those North Dakota Lutherans are shaking in their boots now. The FBI is on to them, the Lutefisk loving terrorists.

Oh wait…

Lily on September 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM

If he was intent on killing Americans, he could have bought a couple of pistols and walked into a mall or a recruiting center somewhere and done it,

Yes, he could but that involves getting killed back. Less appealing no doubt.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I guess he wasn’t all that committed because serious jihadis wouldn’t mind getting their 72 angry Virginians.

Steve Eggleston on September 28, 2011 at 10:12 PM

I love it when a jihadi plan doesn’t come together!

Christien on September 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Comment of the Day™

Steve Eggleston on September 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Steve Eggleston on September 28, 2011 at 10:12 PM

LOL! What to do with 72 annoyed Southerners? I am sure there are going to many “interesting” takes in westernized jihad.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2011 at 10:17 PM

Worse than this fool’s insidious treachery is the intentional treachery of our own law enforcement appointees, when they say outlandish things like this:

US Attorney Carmen Ortiz said… She added, “I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus’ conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion.

YES, IT IS, dammit! It’s called radical militant ISLAM, you insufferable lackey.

Ortiz is a DANGEROUS fool, as she is supposed to be protecting our nation. While she LIES about the common thread among these repeat offenders, she is not focused on the problem, to the detriment of our nation.

I’ll retract my comments the next time a blonde Swedish Lutheran (not THIS guy!!) yells “Allah Akbar!”

fred5678 on September 28, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Yeah that Congressman Peter King is CRAYZEE!

And a XENOPHOBE!

Oh…..wait..

Opposite Day on September 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Carmen Ortiz, the US Attorney who announced the arrest of JARED LOUGHNER, said “I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus’ conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion.”

Oh, sorry wrong case. NEVER MIND

Opposite Day on September 28, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Good thing these ragheads have more “in’shallah” than engineering sense. The two planes shown in TPM would barely carry a single pound of payload, not to mention every once of payload makes the plane more unstable — especially jet fighter types with high wingloading. His GPS gadget might try to get him there, but without gyro-stabilization and altimeter (more weight) the plane would probably never get off the ground.

Just another frustrated idiot wanting to be amir and legend in his own mind. Hang him for treason and attempted sabotage.

AH_C on September 28, 2011 at 11:18 PM

. That said…I have been wondering for years when some idjit was going to try this. Really, there are kits to build LARGE RC aircraft, and simple enough to build one from scratch. Look at the RC Helos they use in Japan as crop dusters…I think last I checked you could buy one of those things ready to fly for under 15k!
BadMojo on September 28, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Mostly agree with you. The problem with his planes is that they’re ARF which don’t give him much space to embed the bomb. Letting them hang just adds to drag and instability.

If he was serious he would have gone with a Chip Masters C-130. With the right setup, it has more thrust than weight plus all that space could easily carry the whole 25 pounds, carry a crude autonomous system and be fast.

I’d be skeptical if any RC ducted fan (mini-turbines are even more expensive ) scale fighter jet could do the job unless it was large scale (on order of 80″+ wingspan) and either built-up or fiberglass. But again I could be out of date since I put RC on indefinite hold for over a decade.

AH_C on September 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM

RC airplane enthusiasts should prepare for the coming government crackdown. That guy behind the counter at the hobby shop just might be an undercover informant.

Mark1971 on September 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

This.

At least he wasn’t planning to use a real Cessna. I am beyond paranoid over how the Federal Government will destroy General Aviation in the US.

My plan to counter their Homeland Security paranoid knee jerk reactions are to insist they deputize all of us aircraft owners and pilots as Federal Air Marshalls, with the appropriate CCW permits, hardware, and authorization for their use.

Jimmy Doolittle on September 29, 2011 at 1:18 AM

SIX AUTOMATIC AK47s???
Was this guy rolling in cash or something? You know how expensive those are? Or did he illegally convert them to automatic weapons?
thphilli on September 28, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Based on everything else in this story I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he applied for an FFL license.

DSchoen on September 29, 2011 at 2:23 AM

AH_C on September 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM

I looked it up

Lets see
3 Fiberglass/Foam R/C
E-flite F-86 Sabre 15 DF ARF

Total all up Flying Weight 53 – 55 oz (1500 – 1560 g) 3.5 pounds each.
Plus 25 pounds C-4 /3 = 8.33 pounds each.

Granted I don’t have a degree in physics from Northeastern University like Jr. “jihad”, but I don’t think an airplane that 2.4 times its normal total weight is going to fly.
That would be like a 747 with two 747 strapped on top and towing a 727 down the runway, it ain’t gonna take off.

Product Specifications
Wingspan: 33.8 in (860mm)
Overall Length: 35.4 in (900mm)
Wing Area: 256 sq in (16.5 sq dm)
Flying Weight: 53 – 55 oz (1500 – 1560 g)
Motor Size: 15 DF 3200Kv Brushless Motor
Radio: 4+ channels
Servos: Sub Micro (4 required) & Micro (1 required)
Trim Scheme Colors: Hanger 9 Ultracote – Silver, Cub Yellow, & Black
Speed Control : 60-amp brushless
Recommended Battery: 4S 14.8V 3200-3300mAh Li-Po
Scale: Warbird
Experience Level: Advanced
Recommended Environment:Outdoor
Assembly Time:5-7 Hours

DSchoen on September 29, 2011 at 2:31 AM

1. I find it interesting that so many posters here think they really understand what he was trying to do and how he was going to do it.

2. The “idiot” was smart enough to turn col phones into remote detonators and turn them over to the undercover agents so they could be used in Afghanistan and was thrilled when he was told they were used to kill 3 US soldiers there

3. Fellow students at his High school claims he was known for turning his back to the flag during the pledge of allegiance and is suspected of being the person who climbed to the roof of the school and burned an American flag back in 2003 or so

4. They don’t just hand out physics degrees at NU. It’s a well known science and engineering University (among other schools in the system). Science & Engineering rule NU, In order to graduate, he had at least 4 years of actual work experience in his field since NU is a 5-year co-op school. That is, it takes 5 years to earn a BS and the extra accumulated year is spread out over 5 working in your field.

TheBigOldDog on September 29, 2011 at 11:39 AM