FBI informant smuggled Fast & Furious guns across border

posted at 10:45 am on September 28, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

The more Congress looks into the ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious, the more embarrassing it gets.  The ATF launched OF&F to track how guns got across the border to Mexico.  As it turns out, all they needed to do was ask the FBI and the DEA:

An FBI/DEA confidential informant helped smuggle firearms from the ATF’s Fast and Furious gun-trafficking surveillance operation to drug cartels in Mexico, according to evidence compiled by congressional investigators.

The investigators said the informant obtained the weapons from Manuel Celis-Acosta, considered by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to be the “biggest fish” of 20 individuals indicted in Fast and Furious. At the same time the informant was receiving large amounts of “official law enforcement funds as payment” for his services, they said.

Congressional investigators believe the informant was working with U.S. law enforcement over a two-year period, beginning in early 2009, and often contacted DEA agents such as Jim Roberts, the resident agent-in-charge in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, to “pass on information to these agents about Mexican drug cartels.”

The revelations were contained in a letter Tuesday from Rep. Darrel Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and Sen. Charles E. Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, to Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. They contend that had the FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration told the ATF about the informant, Fast and Furious would have been shut down much earlier.

If this botched operation hadn’t created such deadly havoc, it would be hilarious.  The ATF is tasked with stopping illegal gun sales, so of course they generate thousands of illegal gun sales in order to stop more of them.  The FBI and the DEA want to stop cartel business across the southern border, so of course they have an informant who facilitates it.  And when it turns out that the FBI/DEA plant is moving the very weapons that the ATF was supposed to be tracking, no one in any of the agencies apparently knows what the other agencies are doing.

Is this a government operation, or what?

Maybe the best change we can make to stop illegal gun sales and keep them from flowing over the border is to disband the ATF.

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We pay these “manager” big salaries to do important work. They cannot be called managers any more. They should be called co-conspirators and possibly, traitors for doing something that goes against what they pledge to p-rotect us against. This goes up to the top – no doubt about it – I can’t wait to tar, feather, and rail all of them!

HomeoftheBrave on September 28, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Maybe the best change we can make to stop illegal gun sales and keep them from flowing over the border is to disband the ATF.

No. Turn it into a store.

rbj on September 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM

All of this seems pretty easy to me: Our federal government is much too big. It needs to be dramatically reduced in size.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM

You know what, I’m sorry, I hate to be the “what if Republicans did it” guy, but let’s be brutally honest here, if this had been a Republican administration, the MSM would be doing a full-court press on this story to use it to take DOWN that administration.

And they’d be right to do so, because this program was utterly unconscionable.

Of course, since it’s a Democrat in there, it’s as if nothing significant happened at all. Despite the fact that the Obama administration literally has blood on their hands over this.

Vyce on September 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM

What does it say behind the guy in the picture? I can only read the last word: FARCE

ElectricPhase on September 28, 2011 at 10:51 AM

The best change we can make is to drag everyone in the ATF and DOJ into federal court, put them under oath, and start asking serious questions. Hundreds of people are dead from this scheme and the higher-ups are getting away with shoulder shrugging and saying “Oh well”.

Bishop on September 28, 2011 at 10:51 AM

If this botched operation hadn’t created such deadly havoc, it would be hilarious.

By portraying them as the gang that couldn’t shoot straight you unwittingly give them cover. The only thing they botched was keeping the operation under wraps.

flyfisher on September 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM

If this was Bush.

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

The best change we can make is to drag everyone in the ATF and DOJ into federal court, put them under oath, and start asking serious questions. Hundreds of people are dead from this scheme and the higher-ups are getting away with shoulder shrugging and saying “Oh well”.

Bishop on September 28, 2011 at 10:51 AM

I agree. But i think this is more sinister. I think we will find in the end that the administration is attempting to marginalize the Second Amendment (before it destroys the First).

HomeoftheBrave on September 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

The best change we can make is to drag everyone in the ATF and DOJ into federal court, put them under oath, and start asking serious questions. Hundreds of people are dead from this scheme and the higher-ups are getting away with shoulder shrugging and saying “Oh well”.

Bishop on September 28, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Charley Gibson said he had never even heard of this operation.

/

fossten on September 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

Credible sources tell Sipsey Street Irregulars that Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Morrissey of the Phoenix office is being interviewed by Jan Brewer’s office for an Arizona superior court judgeship. Mr. Morrissey, it can then be said, is a current target of a Congressional investigation into the Gunwalker Conspiracy.

J_Crater on September 28, 2011 at 10:56 AM

This story is a tragedy. But this story is a pathetic comedy.

http://themorningspew.com/2011/09/28/hilarious-pics-of-wall-street-protesters-including-pepper-spray-shots/

bloggless on September 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM

At this point, I think we should assent to Mexico’s extradition requests.

TexasDan on September 28, 2011 at 10:58 AM

I think we have to consider the possibility that at least one person in the ATF hierarchy has been compromised by the Drug Cartels. Either bribed, or blackmailed, or something.

Stupidity I can believe, but once they started getting push back from so many agents… I have a hard time understanding why they persisted in their stupidity.

Sackett on September 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM

HomeoftheBrave on September 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

Don’t get me wrong, I would like to see Holder and PBHO cuffed together at the ankles and shuffling into the courtroom, but going after the First Black POTUS right away would be counterproductive.

Drag the peons in and start the grilling, get them to spill the beans on their bosses who would then hopefully spill their own beans, and then on up the line to the administration.

Bishop on September 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Sackett on September 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Just for obtaining weapons? I doubt that. If I were a multi-million dollar machine that moves illegal packages in and out of the USA I WOULD NOT BE BUYING GUNS OVER THE COUNTER AT A US GUN SHOP.

I would be buying them BY THE CASE on the world market.
There are plenty of weapons in the world. The cover story was always stupid, and is still stupid.

orbitalair on September 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM

bloggless on September 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Head over to FireDogLake and you can see their daily coverage of what they call “The Occupation!”, complete with comments that refer to the police as pigs (originality isn’t big with lefties).

Yes, they are very romantic about their so-called occupation, equating it to some version of a popular uprising that will sweep away the old and usher in the new progressive ideal. In reality it’s just a bunch of jobless dimwits screaming about ‘The Man’ while texting on their I-phones.

Bishop on September 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Next, we will find out that the Mexican cartels are actually full of ATF, DEA, FBI and DHS undercover operatives .. that in fact there are no Mexicans involved, except of course the dead.

J_Crater on September 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Maybe the best change we can make to stop illegal gun sales and keep them from flowing over the border is to disband the ATF.

How about a few arrests?

antisocial on September 28, 2011 at 11:09 AM

So how’s the Holder “investigation” going? Seems they’ve had more than enough time to shred every document in Washington and purge every hard-drive several times over.

GarandFan on September 28, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Is this a government operation, or what?

Maybe the best change we can make to stop illegal gun sales and keep them from flowing over the border is to disband the ATF.

What does the MSM, NYT, LAT, think about this?
It is amazing that this is getting no press…

right2bright on September 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Are we trying to destabilize Mexico? And by “we” I mean The Won?

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2011 at 11:12 AM

Standard Daily Disclaimer!

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Bishop on September 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Thanks for that info. Also, notice the plastic water bottles! LOL!

bloggless on September 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM

What does the MSM, NYT, LAT, think about this?
It is amazing that this is getting no press…

right2bright on September 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM

LAT has been covering it. So has C-BS; in fact they actually broke the story last winter.

NYT and WaPo? If this were Bush, they’d be all over it.

Nope, no Double Standard.

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Don’t forget Hillary was knee deep in promoting the regime’s theme that US guns were being illegally sold and transported across the border. Actually, she was right except it was govt agencies doing it. Still think she would be better than Zero as president?

Kissmygrits on September 28, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Stupidity I can believe, but once they started getting push back from so many agents… I have a hard time understanding why they persisted in their stupidity.

Sackett on September 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Consider the two men at the very top (Holder and Obama). Not so hard to understand now, is it?

SKYFOX on September 28, 2011 at 11:17 AM

So how’s the Holder “investigation” going? Seems they’ve had more than enough time to shred every document in Washington and purge every hard-drive several times over.

GarandFan on September 28, 2011 at 11:10 AM

You could only hope there will be witness after witness because this is disgusting.

unlisted on September 28, 2011 at 11:18 AM

The ATF is tasked with stopping illegal gun sales, so of course they generate thousands of illegal gun sales in order to stop more of them.

The Keynesian theory of law enforcement…
one thing you can say about this administration, their consistent across the board…..

marks on September 28, 2011 at 11:19 AM

There was this work of fiction once, where the firemen started fires, instead of putting them out…

Vashta.Nerada on September 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM

If this was were Bush.

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM

..FIFY.

~The Grammar Nazi.
(Sorry, Hawk.)

The War Planner on September 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2011 at 11:13 AM

I never get tired of that, Del.

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 11:23 AM

There was this work of fiction once, where the firemen started fires, instead of putting them out…

Vashta.Nerada on September 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM

..Fahrenheit 451.

The War Planner on September 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Hillary was talking up a storm in 2009 about US weapons being sent into Mexico. They were spouting statistics which seemed absurdly skewed, leading a lot of critics to believe an eventual push for harsher gun control would result. I think her fingerprints might be on some of this eventually.

AeroSpear on September 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM

The War Planner on September 28, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Seriously? I don’t care to have mine corrected. It gets old seeing you correct others. How about, how about you give it a break?

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Legalize ALL drugs, and disband the DEA first. Human laws – especially many of America’s – are the problem…

Karmi on September 28, 2011 at 11:28 AM

We also allowed the wife of a cartel kingpin to have her babies in Los Angeles.

I guess they were just tracking her to find him.

Yeah, right.

PattyJ on September 28, 2011 at 11:29 AM

There was this work of fiction once, where the firemen started fires, instead of putting them out…

Vashta.Nerada on September 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Let’s hope Issa’s Guy Montag is high enough up the food chain to expose the truth.

flyfisher on September 28, 2011 at 11:36 AM

A criminal conspiracy to distribute automatic weapons to international drug cartels by the US ATTORNEY GENERAL and PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Extradite them to Mexico to stand trial for the murder of over 200 people, or at minimum stand trial in front of the International Criminal Court which the libs always like to trumpet.
If this operation isn’t treason, I don’t know what is.

Wyatt Wingfoot on September 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Whack-A-Mole, internet version.

SKYFOX on September 28, 2011 at 11:39 AM

We also allowed the wife of a cartel kingpin to have her babies in Los Angeles.

I guess they were just tracking her to find him.

Yeah, right.

PattyJ on September 28, 2011 at 11:29 AM

FWIW, according to Obama’s protectors, including most who post here, thirty-five years from now one of them can become president.

I’m sure that’s what the Founders intended. /

Stayright on September 28, 2011 at 11:40 AM

Maybe the best change we can make to stop illegal gun sales and keep them from flowing over the border is to disband the ATF.

YES. The ATF has murdered enough people that the organization deserves the death penalty.

slickwillie2001 on September 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM

it is unbelievably naive to not realize liberals have never been against criminals having access to cheap and plentiful guns. criminals- and if they are minorities of any sort whose dysfunction and resentments can be exploited for sympathy/justification- all the better. thugs help keep the poor in line- engendering hopelessness and instilling fear in a population traditionally estranged from law enforcement( or now many immigrants and illegals come from places were the police really are all corrupt thugs and nazis) . since the 60s such criminals have been roundly portrayed by the press as self serving robin hoods disadvantaged on purpose by the system or, more truthfully, as the vanguard of the struggle against oppression that must come and must be violent. the darlings of the radical left, the black panthers, was both. when an arsenal of panther weapons- including assault rifles- was found, discovering them was considered a fascist enterprise by law enforcement and downplayed, like all panther crimes no matter how serious.

guns are just fine with the left as long as the right people are killing or shaking down the socially, politically appropriate targets.

it’s only you- the law abiding, productive, thinking peasant that is suppose to be deprived of arms so the criminals can victimize you, taking you out of the democratic process because you’re too concerned with just trying to live each day . the government wants you to not view what’s yours as yours so you do not need to protect your home or your family-it all belongs to elizabeth warren who will decide what you can have and keep.

black panthers were showing up with guns at public meetings, voting places in the 60s- but no one dares mention it now. they were patrolling the streets armed, not to stop crime in their neighborhoods ,but to harass the police. it’s one of the reasons that CA started passing gradually more restrictive gun laws- to stop the panthers when we are actually sane enough to perceive that what they were doing was morally and legally wrong. now we’re just being nationally harassed by the very same sort of criminal gang enterprise- and they are in charge. the black panther/weather underground presidency: violent, criminal,sociopathic, bat poop crazy but it cleans up nice and speechifies or something. a few dead mexicans or cops or border agents is not about to stop them. in fact this weapon nonsense could be cleared up if we just suspend the presidential election coming up.

mittens on September 28, 2011 at 11:51 AM

And when it turns out that the FBI/DEA plant is moving the very weapons that the ATF was supposed to be tracking, no one in any of the agencies apparently knows what the other agencies are doing.

Not so sure about all that. The FBI sure got rid of that third gun as evidence in the Terry killing fast enough.

YES. The ATF has murdered enough people that the organization deserves the death penalty.

slickwillie2001 on September 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM

I’ve read a rumor the DOJ is contemplating doing just that as an attempt to shut off the investigation. Just shift ATF’s responsibilities over to the FBI, then say, “Look, we fixed the problem,..got rid of all those incompetent, low level peons. All fixed.”

a capella on September 28, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Seriously? I don’t care to have mine corrected. It gets old seeing you correct others. How about, how about you give it a break?

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM

..I have absolutely no righteously indignant riposte for that. You are absolutely correct. I’ll go off duty with that.

Sorry.

The War Planner on September 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM

The ATF should be a convenience store, not a government agency.

moc23 on September 28, 2011 at 11:57 AM

All of this while ignoring IMEX controls and breaking treaty obligations with Mexico… mind you the State Dept. was also doing this, too, save with FA weapons and grenades.

It’s like there is an agenda to make war on Mexico to get a response so we have war number… ummm… Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya…. number 5? Talk about trying to get a world war going to save your administration…

ajacksonian on September 28, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Don’t forget Hillary was knee deep in promoting the regime’s theme that US guns were being illegally sold and transported across the border.

Kissmygrits on September 28, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Yes, as I recall she gave several speeches in which she repeated that “90%” lie more than once.

Wouldn’t it be nice if we had some journalists in this country who actually did their job and called out these corrupt politicians when they make these demonstrably false assertions? Instead we have a media that basically functions as the PR arm of the White House. It’s pathetic.

AZCoyote on September 28, 2011 at 12:07 PM

And this administration wants government bureaucracies to micromanage the economy and says private business cannot be trusted to run itself? Talk about the blind leading the sighted.

KW64 on September 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM

The ATF was responsible for the stand-off and massacre of innocent women and children at Waco Texas, also a Democrat administration. Having blood on their hands is nothing new.

Pole-Cat on September 28, 2011 at 12:24 PM

The War Planner on September 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM

My comment was too direct. My aplogies.

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Don’t get me wrong, I would like to see Holder and PBHO cuffed together at the ankles and shuffling into the courtroom, but going after the First Black POTUS right away would be counterproductive.

Bishop on September 28, 2011 at 11:02 AM


Wait, so anyone who is Black, or Hispanic, or any other non-white gets a pass on “High Crimes and Misdemeanors and/or Treason” because of their race? What happened to being a nation of laws? What happened to holding public officials accountable for their actions and failures?

With thinking like this, not only have the Democrats won – you have guaranteed the destruction of the United States of America. The only question will be how long it takes them to fully change the way our country works.

I support waiting a bit for the investigations to be completed (or at least more information being discovered) before charges are filed. However, I fully expect (and frankly demand) that charges are filed against those within the FBI, ATF, DHS, and the White House who are complicit with or allowed this egregious operation to go forward.

jackal40 on September 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM

apologies…

See, you’d be at it all day anyway.

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM

My comment was too direct. My aplogies.

hawkdriver on September 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM

..not at all. Anyway, I always enjoy your contributions.

The War Planner on September 28, 2011 at 12:42 PM

I’m getting impatient with this. This is grand scale malfeasance and demands a strong response in favor of law and order.

perries on September 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Why would the FBI and DEA have an ingormant smuggling guns? Why would they allow the cartels to have US guns? That does not make sense.

This only allows the higher ups to look foolish but not criminal and gives them the cover of saying that they were only guilty of not knowing what was going on. What ever happened to “known or should have known?”

Vince on September 28, 2011 at 12:47 PM

I’m getting impatient with this. This is grand scale malfeasance and demands a strong response in favor of law and order.

perries on September 28, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Response from who? The top law enforcement officers in the land are kneeneck-deep in this cesspool. The Senate’s only job now is to fly low cover for Obama. The House is investigating and being stonewalled and having smoke blown up their skirt.

SKYFOX on September 28, 2011 at 12:59 PM

“Fast And Furious” Just Might Be President Obama’s Watergate
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate/

Why a gunrunning scandal codenamed “Fast and Furious,” a program run secretly by the U.S. government that sent thousands of firearms over an international border and directly into the hands of criminals, hasn’t been pursued by an army of reporters all trying to be the next Bob Woodward or Carl Bernstein is a story in itself.

WDTPKAWDHKI?

Colbyjack on September 28, 2011 at 1:16 PM

The worst part of this is, and continues to be, the senseless murders of innocent people.

Why were those guns left at the scenes? To snub? Or were they instructed to do so, in order to prove we have smugglers in this country, and need stronger gun controls? I’m going with the latter. These agencies, and those that continue the cover up, are all murderers by association and complicity.

Then, they put the blood on our hands by using our money. This is thee most disgusting thing I’ve ever read I think…and that this hasn’t caused more outrage in the country is beyond my comprehension.

capejasmine on September 28, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Wait, so anyone who is Black, or Hispanic, or any other non-white gets a pass on “High Crimes and Misdemeanors and/or Treason” because of their race?

Yes. Where have you been?

What happened to being a nation of laws? What happened to holding public officials accountable for their actions and failures?

That went out the window when we stopped enforcing border laws.

I support waiting a bit for the investigations to be completed (or at least more information being discovered) before charges are filed. However, I fully expect (and frankly demand) that charges are filed against those within the FBI, ATF, DHS, and the White House who are complicit with or allowed this egregious operation to go forward.

jackal40 on September 28, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Good luck with that. Ain’t going to happen.

a capella on September 28, 2011 at 1:37 PM

“Fast And Furious” Just Might Be President Obama’s Watergate
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate/

Why a gunrunning scandal codenamed “Fast and Furious,” a program run secretly by the U.S. government that sent thousands of firearms over an international border and directly into the hands of criminals, hasn’t been pursued by an army of reporters all trying to be the next Bob Woodward or Carl Bernstein is a story in itself.

WDTPKAWDHKI?

Colbyjack on September 28, 2011 at 1:16 PM

The least Woodie could do for us is an interview with federal agent Jaime Zapata.

slickwillie2001 on September 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Is this a government operation, or what?

Amen, Ed. Amen.

 

Kind of reminds me of the (awful) movie ‘Con Air’ where the FBI, ATF and DEA all have an interest in the convicts on board the plane, and when the Federal agent posing as a convict flying on the plane brandishes his ankle holstered pistol he smuggled onto the plane says, “I’m a Federal Agent, d’ya know what the %#@* that means?! ” … one of the convicts responds with “Yeah, it means you’re the most crooked %#@*&^ on this plane!”

FlatFoot on September 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Vashta.Nerada on September 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM

NO longer fiction 451

RedLizard64 on September 28, 2011 at 2:21 PM

By leaving the gun at the scene of the crime you make it impossible for you to get caught with the murder weapon later. But to avoid arrest the gun can not be connectable to you.

Slowburn on September 28, 2011 at 2:30 PM

By leaving the gun at the scene of the crime you make it impossible for you to get caught with the murder weapon later. But to avoid arrest the gun can not be connectable to you.

Slowburn on September 28, 2011 at 2:30 PM

That third gun is long gone,..destroyed, mashed up, and residing in a concrete foundation somewhere.

a capella on September 28, 2011 at 2:59 PM

If this botched operation hadn’t created such deadly havoc, it would be hilarious.

By portraying them as the gang that couldn’t shoot straight you unwittingly give them cover. The only thing they botched was keeping the operation under wraps.

flyfisher on September 28, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Indeed. I am very disappointed by this characterization by Ed, if he means what he appears to mean. In fact, I have asked him to clarify in the hope that he means a corrupt op gone worse as opposed to a good op gone bad.

Has anyone else noticed the adoption by Issa and Grassley of O’Keefe and Breitbart’s tactics? They put something out, wait for the BS excuses in response, then leak the next bit that reveals the BS excuses for what they are, and that what seemed bad enough is actually much worse. It is truly a brilliant strategy, tearing down the walls of lies, prevarications and cover-ups one brick at a time.

novaculus on September 28, 2011 at 3:10 PM

novaculus, there is no way Ed is as crass as you fear. He means that if you look at the incompetence behind F&F separate from its horrifying consequences, the gov’t's ineptitude is comical, as though the Keystone Cops are running the show.

I agree with you about Issa, Grassley and the information dribbling they’re doing. I know Issa even said that those leaked tapes compromised their investigation because they were hoping to catch some potential liars unawares with them.

I have confidence in their sticktoitiveness, too. People need to be patient as they spin their web.

Bizarro No. 1 on September 28, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Bizarro No. 1 on September 28, 2011 at 4:32 PM

I certainly hope you’re right. I didn’t think it crass, but possibly ill-informed. HA hasn’t given this bloody travesty the coverage it deserves until quite recently.

But I’m glad that both the HA folks and the membership here seem to be better informing themselves. I’m seeing more links to Sipsey Street Irregulars and Codrea, fewer comments that suggest the writer hasn’t a clue, and more comments that connect the dots and pose insightful questions that deserve answers.

The ugly intimidation of Dodson can be added to the growing pile of evidence that these scumbags knew damned well they were wrong and were desperate to intimidate the agents who were becoming ever more strident in their objections. They were going to make an example of Dodson.

The mind boggles at the fact that a private range qualification was arranged for Dodson by a supervisor or range officer who feared for Dodson’s life if he was forced to qualify on a live range with complicit agents. If you needed proof that these people understand their careers are on the line if the truth comes out, there it is.

Big wheel keeps on turnin’. We’re gonna get ‘em. Eventually it will just be too big to ignore. The truth, or most of it, will be revealed, and everyone with blood on their hands will be finished, including the chief conspirator in the White House.

novaculus on September 28, 2011 at 5:26 PM

How many FBI and DEA “agents” were paid by the drug lords and how much were they paid?

Lon Chaney on September 28, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Never attribute to incompetence what can so much better be explained by malice.

Lon Chaney on September 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Lon Chaney on September 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM

I see what you did there!

Brilliant!

In fact, that is so brilliant I may have to steal it!

novaculus on September 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Maybe the best change we can make to stop illegal gun sales and keep them from flowing over the border is to disband the ATF.

Is that an original thought, Ed? Maybe that is what should have been done 18 years ago when the FBI and the ATF massacred 74 innocent men, women, and children in Waco Texas. And let’s not forget Ruby Ridge where they not only killed a child trying to protect his dog, but an unarmed woman holding her infant child in her arms.

The long history of homicidal criminality with no accountability of the federal police state is littered with the corpses of the innocent. Maybe your just a little slow on the uptake. Better late than never I suppose.

woodNfish on September 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM