Michael Reagan: My dad might be too moderate for today’s GOP

posted at 8:08 pm on September 27, 2011 by Tina Korbe

As the desire to recruit New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to run for president seems to have reached a fever pitch, I’ve found myself repeatedly wondering, “What’s so wrong with the candidates we have now?” In fact, at the end of the CNN/Tea Party Express debate a couple weeks ago, I tweeted it.

Yes, Perry was wrong on Gardasil. Yes, Mitt Romney was wrong on Romneycare. But either would be better than Obama. Virtually any of the GOP candidates would be!

Is it an issue of polish? Some say Romney has too much of it. Others are punishing Perry for appearing less than poised in last week’s debate. Have you ever tried to count the number of awkward pauses in a President Obama speech?

The point is not that we should “settle.” Like Michele Bachmann, I think Obama’s underwhelming presidency and the 2012 elections give us an unparalleled opportunity to pick a truly conservative president. The point is that we need to look at the candidates a little more holistically — and ask ourselves who will lead in a direction we want to follow. Who up on that stage is comfortable enough in his own skin to not worry about being a pleaser, to just be jovial, to set priorities, to have firm, principled convictions (evolved, perhaps, from past mistakes) and to hold to those convictions even after assuming the position of greatest influence in the nation?

For that’s the sort of leader Ronald Reagan was — and he didn’t necessarily have a flawless record. His son said as much on Fox News today:



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Too moderate for the RINO Party? Pppfffttt doubt it.

Tony737 on September 27, 2011 at 8:14 PM

It’s a very different electorate too. A third of the people that voted for Reagan in 1980 are probably dead now. It’s not just the politicians that change. New voters are constantly replacing those that go on to the voting booth in the sky.

RBMN on September 27, 2011 at 8:14 PM

well for the Libtard Ron Paul portion of the GOP, yes….

TheQuestion on September 27, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Yea, William F. Buckley would be a RINO compared to all this fascist GOP members. /s

preallocated on September 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM

I totally agree and have said it a million times. The purists are f****** it up for our side.

Southernblogger on September 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Oy. These are not ordinary times. The center isn’t holding. The status quo no longer works, in fact it destroys. I suppose most of us will end up voting for Candidate Good Enough when the time comes, but we’ll do so knowing that such a candidate will be managing the decline, not reversing it. It would be nice, though, to have a candidate who would be committed to reversing it. That candidate would be a free-market, small-government conservative.

Rational Thought on September 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM

And yes, Reagan would be attacked as a Rino if he ran today.

Southernblogger on September 27, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Regean admitted he was wrong. For example, he regretted signing abortion into law in California. Romney just digs a deeper hole.

NotCoach on September 27, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Tony737 on September 27, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Well, probably for some here. I mean, as Michael Reagan said, his record as gov. wouldn`t pass today`s purity tests.

ThePrez on September 27, 2011 at 8:17 PM

The primaries are the setting in which we make our choices based on the issues that are most important. The general election is the time to set aside differences.

Rose on September 27, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Too moderate?

Our frontrunners passed government-run health care and mandated vaccines for children.

Newt, meanwhile, cheated on his wife and then joined the liberal speaker in calling for government action on climate change.

Sorry, Michael, but your father would be one of the more conservative ones.

amerpundit on September 27, 2011 at 8:18 PM

I think it is because we drifted farther to the left than Reagan would recognize. We should call this a correction.

tomas on September 27, 2011 at 8:18 PM

I think what’s really irritating the purist zealots among us is that every candidate they’ve tried to pass off as the Next True Conservative Hope either is found to have seriously un-conservative deficiencies in their records, or crash and burn in elections.

Angle, Buck, O’Donnell, Miller… Paul, Santorum, Bachmann.

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Michael Reagan was adopted and you can tell, although that theory doesn’t work to explain Non Reagan, Reagan’s other “son”.

The GOP rode Ronald Reagan for his immoderate conservative principles and declared him “unelectable” in 1980 and wanted George H.W. Bush to be the GOP candidate instead.
Or Howard Baker or John Conally.

President Reagan had rock-solid conservative–not moderate–values.
This is something almost none of the current GOP candidates possess except for Bachmann and Santorum.

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM

This country is on the brink of catastrophy, “moderate” is not going to be enough to pull us back from the edge. In fact putting our principles on hold and electing the RINO is how we got here in the first place.

No. More. RINOs.

Rebar on September 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM

The Left always nominates crazed leftists, yet we can’t nominate a rational right winger?

The real problem with the debate is that the left has successfully painted the Tea Party as far right. The Tea Party is really down the middle. Who is against balancing the budget?

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:20 PM

It is harder to be forgiven for your past. That’s for sure. Maybe it’s just because the “reformed” are less likely to be sincere about reforming.

RBMN on September 27, 2011 at 8:21 PM

The majority of change has got to come from the congress anyways and that will be slow. Perry or Romney they will govern almost identically, doesn’t make much difference. You could get the most fiscal and social conservative out there and any fundamental change will still come slow. That’s the way our government is set up, one person won’t change it.

lowandslow on September 27, 2011 at 8:22 PM

The left’s recent nominees:
- AlGore
- Genghis Khan Kerry
- Lord Obama

Memo to RINOs – shut the h*ll up

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:22 PM

The point is that we need to look at the candidates a little more holistically — and ask ourselves who will lead in a direction we want to follow.

Yes, that is what we want.

Reagan wanted to lead the nation towards the right and many of the current candidates want to lead leftward. Romney, Perry, Huntsman, Daniels, Pawlenty to name names.

Who up on that stage is comfortable enough in his own skin to not worry about being a pleaser, to just be jovial, to set priorities, to have firm, principled convictions (evolved, perhaps, from past mistakes) and to hold to those convictions even after assuming the position of greatest influence in the nation?

Excellent question. Newt didn’t hold those convictions nor did some of the previously mentioned.

So what do we have left?

Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, Gary Johnson.

Dear lord.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Okay Michael……..

Your Dad appointed Sandra Day O’Connor.

He left 250+ Marines essentially unguarded in Beirut that were killed. When attacked we turned tail and ran offshore (emboldening our enemies in the Middle East).

He said he was going to end the DOE I think it was…….and didn’t.

He presided over a government that still grew and didn’t shrink.

And his biggest debacle, the 1986 Amnesty that sent the signal to the Mexican poor that they could flood the American Southwest. Now 30 million more Hispanics live in the U.S. most illegally. They have practically taken over your beloved California. They have bankrupted all kinds of state and local government agencies. They are destroying Seniors Social Security and Medicare. And not even mentioning the destruction of American identity.

And another mistake……….picking Bush. That decision left us 20+ years of castrated, scared of anyone GOP leadership. “Kinder, Gentler” “Compassionate Conservative” is just code for ever growing Progressive GOP programs. What a disaster.

I voted for Ronald Reagan (and would again with the choices we had in 1980 and 1984) but was he a true blue Conservative? In a blue blooded Ruling Class sort of way, yes.

Michael, your Dad was great for 1980.

He’s not what we need in 2012.

PappyD61 on September 27, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Anyone(including Mciahel Reagan) who is pushing the “Reagan might be too moderate for today’s GOP” meme should re-listen to his 5 minute radio show pieces he did the few years before he ran for president… he was quite the right-winger.

ninjapirate on September 27, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Michael who?

GarandFan on September 27, 2011 at 8:24 PM

It is harder to be forgiven for your past. That’s for sure. Maybe it’s just because the “reformed” are less likely to be sincere about reforming.

RBMN on September 27, 2011 at 8:21 PM

People who ask for forgiveness can be forgiven. People who refuse to acknowledge their shortcomings should be hoisted upon their own petard.

NotCoach on September 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM

The current occupant of the White House is the most radical left Marxist in my lifetime…why should conservatives not insist on a conservative nominee?

d1carter on September 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM

The purity police are going to destroy this party. Somebody you agree with 75%-80% of the time is not an OMGZZZ EVIL RINOZZZZ! Get over yourselves already. Nobody is a perfect candidate and there’s no such thing as a 100% pure conservative, and there never has been.

therightwinger on September 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM

*Nit-Picking to death*
=========================

Agree,besides the purest angle,theres needs to be a
re-calibration of targetting,on Obama,and not the in
fighting of the GOP,and I think,unless the debate format
changes,the average voter will get the wrong impression,
er,perception of Team Right!

And,Perry comes to mind!

Thats only one angle!

canopfor on September 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Give Purity a Chance

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:26 PM

BTW, Reagan never had control of both houses of congress…

ninjapirate on September 27, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Somebody you agree with 75%-80% of the time is not an OMGZZZ EVIL RINOZZZZ!

therightwinger on September 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Except its more like 30% of the time, and most of the time they want to do exactly what the Democrats want.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Even assuming this is true, The Left would still hate him.

SouthernGent on September 27, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Saw this live today and it’s patent nonsense. The real truth is if Reagan were a candidate today, libs and the media would be eviscerating him as dumb, extremist, unserious etc. Just like they did back then.

No one understood what we were up against better than Reagan. His A Time For Choosing speech rings as true today as it did fifty years ago. Is there a single candidate saying any of this stuff?

The Mega Independent on September 27, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Reagan wanted to lead the nation towards the right and many of the current candidates want to lead leftward. Romney, Perry, Huntsman, Daniels, Pawlenty to name names.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 8:23 PM

You are being very disingenious when you lump Perry into your list of RINOs. But it was intentional, wasn’t it?

You call a three-term Governor who has demonstrated conservatism in fiscal, social, and defense issues a RINO? I bet Perry is way more conservative than you, sharrukin.

And don’t mumble about the Dream Act, which passed without dissent from a Texas Legislature that has some of the most conservative Republicans you can think of.

TheRightMan on September 27, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Ugh,to clarify,`my comment was on,Republican In-fighting!

canopfor on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

I’d get this if we were the minority party, but…a purist fiscal conservative movement has sprung up (the Tea Party) and we just took 63 seats in the House and we will be retaking the Senate and the White House next year. It’s called standing on conservative principles. It works whenever it is tried.

Ted Torgerson on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Romney wants to lead the country left? LMAO…Yeah some real left wingers are part of his campaign. Like Robert Bjork.

therightwinger on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

And yes, Reagan would be attacked as a Rino if he ran today.

Southernblogger on September 27, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Yeah, but it wouldn’t stick. And he’d make a funny joke about it.

SlaveDog on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

It’s a very different electorate too. A third of the people that voted for Reagan in 1980 are probably dead now. It’s not just the politicians that change. New voters are constantly replacing those that go on to the voting booth in the sky.

The electorate has remained fiscally conservative, but has moved a lot to the left on social issues

YYZ on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

“I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”

–Ronald Reagan

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

The President has declared war on us, called us terrorists, and a sitting Governor has decided that we should suspend democracy….

And we are still listening to RINOs?

What is wrong with you people?

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:33 PM

This is something almost none of the current GOP candidates possess except for Bachmann and Santorum.

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Because nothing screams “small-government conservative” like federal farm subsidies and Medicare Part D.

See how easy it is to pick this stupid argument apart?

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Thats it,I`m moving Micheal Reagan,to the very top,
of my Great Grand RINO Purgation List!
(snark)

canopfor on September 27, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Give Purity a Chance

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:26 PM

faraway:Ahem,Lol:)

canopfor on September 27, 2011 at 8:34 PM

You call a three-term Governor who has demonstrated conservatism in fiscal, social, and defense issues a RINO?

TheRightMan on September 27, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Perry has NEVER demonstrated conservatism on any issue as Governor of TX.

Try to show he has with even 1 thing that he’s done.
We’ll wait…and wait…and wait.

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:34 PM

You are being very disingenious when you lump Perry into your list of RINOs. But it was intentional, wasn’t it?

TheRightMan on September 27, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Yes it was intentional and no it wasn’t disingenious.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Romney wants to lead the country left? LMAO…Yeah some real left wingers are part of his campaign. Like Robert Bjork.

therightwinger on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Romney is a tool. Until he can admit he was wrong about RomneyCare I will continue to spit on him.

And is Robert Bjork Bjork’s long lost American brother?

NotCoach on September 27, 2011 at 8:35 PM

See how easy it is to pick this stupid argument apart?

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I assume you’re attacking Bachmann’s conservatism?
Could you be more specific?

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:35 PM

I think he’s right. If it doesn’t stop, you will end up nit-picking your way into another 4 years of Obama.

Jesse on September 27, 2011 at 8:36 PM

And RINO’s would be whining that he was “unelectable”.

The Mega Independent on September 27, 2011 at 8:37 PM

*********************Broken Arrow**************************

Team Right is being attacked,Left/right/centre,
and within!
(snark)

canopfor on September 27, 2011 at 8:38 PM

I assume you’re attacking Bachmann’s conservatism?
Could you be more specific?

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Bachmann supported, and still supports, major federal farm aid. Santorum was a key vote for Medicare Part D – the point when George W. Bush Republicanism morphed into big-government moderation.

My point is that no matter what candidate you declare to be a True Conservative, I, and many others who look, can find plenty of one of two things in their record – liberalism or massive electoral failure.

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:39 PM

This is a VERY true statement. Reagan made the same statement as Perry’s “heart” one regarding the border and illegals in both 1980 and 1984.

Plus with the internet, tons of morons who have never even held a minor PTA office seem to know everything about politics and how to get things passed.

Kermit on September 27, 2011 at 8:40 PM

I love how RINO’s want to claim Reagan as their own now. That’s a hell of a mind pretzel, guys, but you just stay there like that and enjoy yourselves.

You’d have hated his freaking guts in 1979.

“BUSH ALL THE WAY!!!!”
“Electable, Moderate, Mushy Middle, Independents, YAYYYYYYY!!!!”

The Mega Independent on September 27, 2011 at 8:40 PM

I think he’s right. If it doesn’t stop, you will end up nit-picking your way into another 4 years of Obama.

Jesse on September 27, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Exactly! Just reading this thread and others drives me insane. The Rush Limbaugh approach is the right approach, which is not to speak badly about any of the candidates and support the nominee. I dont fault people at all for enthusiastically supporting their candidate, but what is foolish is to go after these guys personally because they arent your candidate. Whoever your “perfect candidate” is, more likely then not they arent going to win and if you think any of these guys are worse then Obama then there is no help for you, you’ve lost it. You cant listen to any of these plans and think this is worse then what we have and to trash these people is just gross frankly.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Reagan was a confident, extremely likable and intelligent. He had well thought out principles and communicated them effectively and believably because he believed in them. That’s what we want.

Dont need to be perfect.

Dash on September 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Those were Liberal lapses on the part of Santorum and Bachmann, perhaps, but they’ve conducted themselves in public office as conservatives, for the most part, which you cannot say of Perry, Romney, Newt, or Huntsman.
Actually, Ron Paul is a conservative, too, for that matter, if you put his disastrous isolationism to the side.
Cain is the unknown factor because he’s never held public office.

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Michael Reagan: My dad might be too moderate for today’s GOP

And JFK would have been too moderate for today’s DemocRAT Party. So what?

The difference between Michael and I is I believe Ronald Reagan would have adapted to today’s times.

Steve Eggleston on September 27, 2011 at 8:43 PM

You cant listen to any of these plans and think this is worse then what we have and to trash these people is just gross frankly.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Newsflash: This is primary season

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:43 PM

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Couldn’t have said it better.

Jesse on September 27, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Newsflash: This is primary season

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Exactly. Michael Reagan also said the party needs to “just come together”. It’s like, hello… it’s freakin’ PRIMARY SEASON.

The Mega Independent on September 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Newsflash: This is primary season

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:43 PM

I get that, but the personal stuff like saying ” I would spit on him” or any of the other nonsense Ive seen in this thread and others is demented.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM

I think what’s really irritating the purist zealots among us is that every candidate they’ve tried to pass off as the Next True Conservative Hope either is found to have seriously un-conservative deficiencies in their records, or crash and burn in elections.

Angle, Buck, O’Donnell, Miller… Paul, Santorum, Bachmann.

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Yeah. Real honest. Nice for you to leave off West, DeMint, (Rand) Paul, Ryan…

Yup. All conservatives suck…when you only list the ones that suck…

miConsevative on September 27, 2011 at 8:46 PM

smarter than a box of rocks does not mean smart.
Wetter than the Sahara does not mean wet.
Better than ObaMao does not mean good.

I want good. Run Sarah run.

Slowburn on September 27, 2011 at 8:47 PM

I get that, but the personal stuff like saying ” I would spit on him” or any of the other nonsense Ive seen in this thread and others is demented.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Why is it demented?

NotCoach on September 27, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Reagan RINO? “I’ve noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.”

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Yeah. Real honest. Nice for you to leave off West, DeMint, (Rand) Paul, Ryan…

Yup. All conservatives suck…when you only list the ones that suck…

miConsevative on September 27, 2011 at 8:46 PM

But West and Ryan are irredeemable RINO traitors that should be primaried, so they shouldn’t be included.

Oh, wait, are those guys presently on the “nice” list this week?

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Reagan did a better job communicating freedom and the proper role of government than all of our current candidates put together.

beatcanvas on September 27, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Why is it demented?

NotCoach on September 27, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Because its insane to have a personal hatred for one of these guys (or ladies) to the point of just spouting nonsense. Its irrational and it frankly says more about the person writing it then the candidate. These are all really stellar people with really stellar families, so the personal stuff against these people who are sticking their necks out trying to fix this awful mess we are in makes me sick. Its just should be beneath adults frankly. Tear apart the policies, but the personal stuff is adolescent.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Cain is the unknown factor because he’s never held public office.

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:42 PM

As long as he clings to his 999 plan, he never will.

There’s nothing like adding new taxes on top of our existing income taxes!

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM

and if you think any of these guys are worse then Obama then there is no help for you, you’ve lost it. You cant listen to any of these plans and think this is worse then what we have and to trash these people is just gross frankly.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM

There is the problem of sufficient conditions. The remedy has to actually be sufficient to actually do something.

We need someone who will actually make a change that matters, because a change that doesn’t matter… doesn’t actually matter.

The spending is out of control and the go along to get along political approach isn’t going to cut it. We have seen this from Boehner and his crew where they promise all sorts of things, throw out every excuse in the book, play the weak sister, and actually deliver a used lollypop.

Boehner and his sort of politician aren’t going to do a damn thing, and unless we get someone in the White House who will act decisively, then we are just wasting our time.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM

But West and Ryan are irredeemable RINO traitors that should be primaried, so they shouldn’t be included.

Oh, wait, are those guys presently on the “nice” list this week?

KingGold on September 27, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Dude, if the only way you can win a battle is by misrepresentation and cherry picking from the fringe (of both candidates and commenters on here), then it shows a week argument on your side…which means you’ve lost.

And you’re only supposed to be smug when you win. I know that’s hard for you to remember.

miConsevative on September 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Err…weak…

miConsevative on September 27, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Mitt Romney wasis wrong on Romneycare.

FIFY

besser tot als rot on September 27, 2011 at 8:55 PM

BTW, have you ordered BOR’s book? eeeeyyyyyyyyyy

faraway on September 27, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Please. Reagan is tagged “moderate” based on the legislation pretty much he had to sign because his legislatures are almost always controlled by Democrats. Reagan is not “moderate” by conviction, he got elected by running as a conservative. I understand he had to compromise but it’s one thing to be forced to sign tax increases or amnesty, it’s another to be ADVOCATING in campaigns FOR them.

Apologetic California on September 27, 2011 at 8:56 PM

If you throw out polish, throw out being 100% in agreement, then I’d have to say it’s Johnson for most conservatives.

Free Constitution on September 27, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Boehner and his sort of politician aren’t going to do a damn thing, and unless we get someone in the White House who will act decisively, then we are just wasting our time.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Boehner is up against a Democratic President and Senate in an election year. Is he perfect? No, but man look what the guy is up against! Hes not producing perfect bills, but as long as their is Dems in the Senate and the White House hes kind of stuck. Look at some point, we have to look at the candidates plans and take them at their word. Each one has said they want to reduce the size of govt, each one has said they wanted to repeal Obama care, each one has said they wanted to fix the tax system. I take them at their word. I think they are all capable of being great leaders frankly, but who knows? At some point you just make a choice and hope for the best.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Ronald Reagan did fail the test in 1976, ironically because he tried to garner centrist and leftist votes by his VP choice.

And still he was elected in 1980. WTH?! Unpossible!

eforhan on September 27, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Simply by not having ended social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, the progressive income tax, or capital gains taxes, Reagan would be considered a moderate by todays conservative standard. Everywhere you turn, conservatives are insisting that if you aren’t a flat tax, end social security type fixing to build a giant wall at our southern border, then you’re a socialist and downright evil to the core.

ernesto on September 27, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Boehner is up against a Democratic President and Senate in an election year.

And what about last year? What was his cheap excuse then? I recall people saying that we all had to wait for next year to really see Boehner do his stuff and we predicted that the next BS excuse for doing nothing would be that its an election year.

You guys always have an excuse for not doing anything.

Is he perfect? No, but man look what the guy is up against!

Do you still mean Boehner here, or Barack Obama because I have heard the same thing about both of them?

Look at some point, we have to look at the candidates plans and take them at their word.

Why?

If they have lied to you before, flip-flopped, changed positions and delivered nothing but cheap excuses for their inaction, why on earth would you take them at their word?

Why?

I think they are all capable of being great leaders frankly, but who knows? At some point you just make a choice and hope for the best.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Sorry. I am just too cynical to play Pollyanna on this.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 9:08 PM

“Yes, Perry was wrong on Gardasil. Yes, Mitt Romney was wrong on Romneycare.”

These are not minor points. They demonstrate a lack of respect for our individual liberty. We are supposed to be free citizens who live as we see fit, not campers in some big government summer camp that’s going to solve all our problems by making our major life decisions for us. We need a president who is going to make restoring and protecting our liberty a priority.

Cara C on September 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Perry has NEVER demonstrated conservatism on any issue as Governor of TX.

Try to show he has with even 1 thing that he’s done.
We’ll wait…and wait…and wait.

Jenfidel on September 27, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Let me quote this from his website and you try proving him wrong.

A staunch fiscal and social conservative, Rick Perry has controlled spending and taxes in Texas. Perry has signed into law state budgets that have invested billions of dollars more in education, and he has successfully advocated for landmark lawsuit reforms.

In the most recent 2011 regular legislative session, Perry set a conservative, fiscally responsible course. He insisted on no new taxes, worked with legislators to cut spending by $15 billion, and protected the “Rainy Day Fund,” which set aside at least $6 billion for future needs.

Perry is the only governor since World War II to reduce state general revenue spending. Perry also signed a historic property tax cut, and a tax cut for small businesses with less than $1 million in gross receipts.

Perry has a strong record on job creation. His support for low taxes, reasonable regulations, a predictable civil litigation system and an educated workforce has produced a business climate consistently ranked among the best in the nation. Perry has actively encouraged employers to relocate to Texas or expand their operations in the state. Since June 2009, more than 40 percent of the net new jobs created in America have been created in Texas, and today, the Lone Star State is a magnet for corporate relocations. For nine straight years, Texas has led the nation in exports to foreign countries among the 50 states.

With a strong record of job creation, restrained spending and tax cuts, Rick Perry is a committed conservative with the right vision for creating opportunity and prosperity. He has signed into law comprehensive reforms that have made Texas a leader in the fight against lawsuit abuse. These reforms include a recent loser pay law that will cut down on frivolous lawsuits. His medical liability reforms have increased the number of physicians practicing in the state by the thousands, improving patient access to medical specialists.

The Perry record also includes a significant commitment to border security to stop the in-flow of illegal immigrants, weapons and drugs. Perry has ordered border surge operations that have reduced illegal crossings, and allocated hundreds of millions of dollars for border security operations that put more boots on the ground and utilize technology to detect, track and deter the criminal element.

Waiting…. :)

TheRightMan on September 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM

preallocated on September 27, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Would you do everybody a favor and actually look up the word “fascist” in the dictionary before you turn in tonight. There’s a little more to the concept than how much starch is in your collar. (Geez, people, crack open a damn history book once in a while …)

manwithblackhat on September 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Sorry off topic but worth noting. The lefties booed Jesus. Where is the outrage? /

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/nice-the-left-boos-jesus-at-obama-fundraiser/

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then you’re a socialist and downright evil to the core.

ernesto on September 27, 2011 at 9:03 PM

The king of the straw men is baaaack.

GFY

CW on September 27, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Sorry. I am just too cynical to play Pollyanna on this.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 9:08 PM

What was his excuse last year? The same one as this year… a Democratic Senate and Presidency. Secondly, they have all changed positions and flip flopped, Perry flipped from a Democrat to a Republican, Romney flipped on social issues and who knows about Cain. Not ONE PERSON up there is perfect, sorry. I mean Perry has never had to face a democratic majority, he walked into a red state with a red legislature, what happens when he gets to Washington? We just dont know. We don’t know what any of them will do. I sure didnt know when I voted for Bush he would pass Medicare Part D or any of the other big government nonsense. But I do know he used phrases like Perry of “having a heart” which equals to spending on nonsense. My point is, we don’t know what any of these guys will actually do when sworn in. At some point you have to look at the metrics, go with your gut and make a choice and hope its the right one. I wish we could hook them up to lie detectors, but we cant. I can only take them at their word and make a choice from there.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 9:14 PM

The electorate has remained fiscally conservative, but has moved a lot to the left on social issues

YYZ on September 27, 2011 at 8:31 PM

You mean gay marriage and DADT. Why do you just simply say social issues?

CW on September 27, 2011 at 9:15 PM

I also see on this forum attempts by Romney/Bachamnn/Santorum supporters, as well as Palin die-hards, to lump Perry with Romney in the same RINO bracket.

Let me say this:

If Perry is a RINO then can you please give me more like him? A “RINO”, like Perry, that passed tort reform, has a strong fiscal record, doesn’t apologize for his faith or love for country, and is prepared to defend America – is one that I would definitely love to campaign and vote for.

TheRightMan on September 27, 2011 at 9:16 PM

CW on September 27, 2011 at 9:13 PM

You, of all people, are not in a position to take issue with that. You make that characterization time, and time again.

ernesto on September 27, 2011 at 9:19 PM

If Perry is a RINO then can you please give me more like him? A “RINO”, like Perry, that passed tort reform, has a strong fiscal record, doesn’t apologize for his faith or love for country, and is prepared to defend America – is one that I would definitely love to campaign and vote for.

Romneys book was titled no apology and he has relentlessly attacked Obama for apologizing for the USA. All of these guys love their Country, I mean come on. It is easy to pass a conservative agenda in Texas, its impossible not too. This is probably the reddest state in the Country. Its apples and oranges, I would love to know what Perry would have done with a real democratic challenge in a state, but hes never had one

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Waiting…. :)

TheRightMan on September 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Perry assumed office in 2000.

Year 2000
Total Spending $109.6 billion
Pensions $5.5 billion
Health Care $17.4 billion
Education $39.5 billion
Welfare $6.0 billion
Protection $10.1 billion
Transport $9.4 billion

And ten years latter we have…

Year 2010

Total Spending $187.3 billion
Pensions $10.8 billion
Health Care $37.4 billion
Education $60.5 billion
Welfare $10.2 billion
Protection $16.2 billion
Transport $15.5 billion

Now you claim he’s a small government conservative, but I don’t see any reduction is spending. What I see is a near doubling of the outlay in a ten year period. This is a greater increase than the population in every category, so where are the cuts?

From 2001 to 2010, state debt alone grew from $13.4 billion to $37.8 billion, according to the Texas Bond Review Board.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 9:24 PM

The real question is what our focus should be.

I agree that true immigration changes, pro life causes, social security, etc. are important.

But people we have a complete incompetent in office, who is destroying lives of our fellow Americans. We need someone who will get the government out of the way of free enterprise, will reform the tax code and reform entitlements, especially Medicare and Medicaid.

I don’t care what the candidate stands for in the short term if he does that.

Yes, I would love a pure conservative. But this year, that does not seem to exist. I am so far annoyed by every candidate other than Herman Cain. I would love Cain, and I may support him, but I doubt he can win the nomination. If he does, great. He fulfills my requirements.

But those of you in anguish over imperfect candidates…come back to the real world. Support the best guy/gal you can, and get in the game, because I don’t care as long as we get rid of Obama.

neoavatara on September 27, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Reagan’s not here, so we cannot know, regardless of the speculation. And, if he were still here, today’s GOP wouldn’t be the exact same today’s GOP, so this is rather pointless, IMO.

Christien on September 27, 2011 at 9:26 PM

neoavatara on September 27, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Amen. I would love if Mark Levin were President frankly, if Im choosing from whoever, but whoever it is no matter how imperfect Im all in. Wont lose sight of the real objective, our Country cant take Obama another four years.

nswider on September 27, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Reagan’s not here, so we cannot know, regardless of the speculation. And, if he were still here, today’s GOP wouldn’t be the exact same today’s GOP, so this is rather pointless, IMO.

Christien on September 27, 2011 at 9:26 PM

A good response to Michael Reagan’s stupid statement.

I’d only add that Ronald Reagan didn’t experience the rise of the Left and the wholesale radicalization of the democrat party we’ve seen today. How would his governing style and rhetoric have changed in the face of this?

Who up on that stage is comfortable enough in his own skin to not worry about being a pleaser, to just be jovial, to set priorities, to have firm, principled convictions (evolved, perhaps, from past mistakes) and to hold to those convictions even after assuming the position of greatest influence in the nation?

Not one of them. Not even close.

rrpjr on September 27, 2011 at 9:40 PM

I remember Ronald Reagan..the real man, not the fantasy figure that so many people have created. He was not a simple man.

Reagan would have problems being accepted today by the right. I know that people will say that Reagan admitted he was wrong and somehow or other that would make it okay..but Reagan never backed off everything he did that would upset conservatives. He stuck by most of his decisions. He made it plain that he thought it was better to take half a loaf than starve and he was not ashamed to say as much.

In the last election Romney was supported by a lot of conservatives..at the time he was seen as an alternative to McCain who was considered too moderate. Now Romney has become the one who is too moderate and I am sure that a lot of the people who supported him last time and still support him wonder what happened to the Republican party. My biggest problem with Perry is not whether or not he is moderate, but whether or not he is too slick..but I would vote for him if he got the nomination.

No one is going to please everyone. No one is going to make all the right decisions all the time. It just is not possible. The thing is a lot of people demanding this perfection are not perfect themselves. None of us are.

Terrye on September 27, 2011 at 9:52 PM

He was a former Dem just like Perry. Yet like Perry, he was a very successful Governor.

Voter from WA State on September 27, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Reagan is more effective from the grave than Perry is today.

Perry.

Reagan.

sharrukin on September 27, 2011 at 9:57 PM

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