Video: Where Herman Cain won the debate
posted at 9:25 am on September 23, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Both Mitt Romney and Rick Perry had poor debate performances last night, as I wrote in my earlier post. The rest of the field did reasonably well, even apart from comparing them to the two frontrunners who seemed more interested in attacking each other than giving answers to the questions. Michele Bachmann improved but lost any gains when she attempted to say that she hadn’t claimed that HPV causes mental retardation, but that she just regurgitated the claim repeatedly on national television because someone told her it did. Er … okay. Newt Gingrich dialed down the media hate but also faded into the scenery a bit. Gary Johnson had one good line in his first debate, which he apparently cribbed from Rush Limbaugh.
The only two to gain real notice, however, were Rick Santorum and Herman Cain. Santorum mixed it up well with Rick Perry on border and later on foreign policy. On the former, Santorum came across a bit weak; visiting a California border station once several years ago is not the same thing as governing a state for eleven years with a border of 1200 miles, and Santorum made it a bit worse by trying to continually interrupt Perry’s rebuttal, to the point where Chris Wallace had to tell him in effect to pipe down and wait for a question.
Santorum did much better on the question of Pakistan and rogue nukes if the Taliban scored a coup there, but he offered essentially the same answer as Perry, only coherently. No responsible candidate would say what Fox apparently wanted to hear, which is that we’d invade Pakistan to grab the nukes if the Islamists took over the country, so both talked about avoiding that consequence in the first place by building relationships. Perry talked about building relationships with India, however, which is at best a non-sequitur for the hypothetical given; a friendship with India won’t help in the case of a coup, and our relationship-building with India has to be handled subtly so as not to encourage the Islamists in Pakistan. Santorum got this right by emphasizing that the relationships that matter in the hypothetical are with Pakistanis, not the Indians.
Cain, however, delivered the answer of the night on an issue about which voters care more, and the answer was devastating mainly because of its personal nature:
This is the best argument against ObamaCare and government encroachment in health care. The more government becomes part of the process, the more control bureaucrats gain and patients lose. If anyone doubts that, just look across the border to Canada and see how much personal choice patients have in treatments and access. More than that, Cain’s answer applies to overregulation in general, and it serves as a pretty good explanation for the economic stagnation we are currently enduring. The more capital and control we assign to government rather than letting stakeholders use their own capital, the less economic innovation and flexibility we have, which means less growth and fewer jobs.
It didn’t hurt that this answer came late in the debate, either. People might give Santorum the edge in the debate outcome, but this is the moment people will be discussing around the water cooler.
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Palin/Cain!
Texican Ben on September 23, 2011 at 9:28 AM
Cain/Anyone but that warbly voiced twit!
rollthedice on September 23, 2011 at 9:31 AM
I love this man.
bloggless on September 23, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Cain/Coulter 2012
Aronne on September 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM
The whole youtube questions concept irritates me.
blatantblue on September 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Cain is pretty damn cool, but I profess to not know enough about him.
Bishop on September 23, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Palin can’t win, she doesn’t have the smarts.
Bishop on September 23, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Which is EXACTLY why Obama is doing what he’s doing. He knows if he draws back, things would get better, but that’s not what he wants.
As for Cain…I’m still a fan. I’m still not dedicated to any one particular candidate at the moment. There’s time for that, and even if I did choose, and that person wasn’t picked, I’d support any candidate at this point, because…anyone but Obama is the mantra.
Cain has some good ideas, and he seems to be more in tune with what people want. I hope he does well. I like him. I know he’s had the foot in mouth disease a few times, but I’m willing to give it some time, and I think he’d do well as President.
capejasmine on September 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM
Cain was fantastic. He might’ve had the best performance last night. I don’t even know if I agree with his 9-9-9 plan. Wallace was right that it could easily become an economy killer in future Congresses. But at least the guy has a plan. It’s simple and understandable. And he’s great at selling. Same goes for his support for the Chilean model for reforming SS.
I really wish he had a shot at the nomination. Outside of a Palin endorsement though(which I don’t ever see happening), I don’t see how he overcomes Mittens’ money and establishment ties.
Doughboy on September 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM
Palin/Cain will work for me…
Of course I said that a year ago. ;)
PS: It’s NOT her voice… it’s her ideas and solid foundation!
golfmann on September 23, 2011 at 9:39 AM
Come on people. Cain is great at one liners, but he is a lightweight when it comes to policy. AS rummy might say “He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know”.
huckleberryfriend on September 23, 2011 at 9:39 AM
I like that guy.
scalleywag on September 23, 2011 at 9:39 AM
If he were to come up in the polls it will be interesting to see his story used against him.
How very deep of you!
Cindy Munford on September 23, 2011 at 9:39 AM
I work in Long Term Care and we are funded primarily by the government. The Minimum Data Set (MDS) is the assessment that we complete and send to CMS for payment.
A few years ago, the government decided they wanted to upgrade the MDS. They got a panel of MDS experts (nurses) to work on the project.
When they were done, we got MDS 3.0. The panel of experts on the listserve say that they threw out all their recommendations and went with what is now a cumbersome nightmare.
An 8-page assessment has become a 33-page assessment. And if I send a resident to the hospital, I have to complete it when they leave AND when they come back. I am accountable to have “assessed” someone who isn’t even in my building!
keebs on September 23, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Palin/Cain.
Cain’s segment of the video needs to go viral..
tinkerthinker on September 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM
Cain won on the details, is it me – or is he the only one not speaking in platitudes, talking points, and vague generalities. We all love god and the free market, but anyone can say that.
abobo on September 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM
The Hermanator!
Tony737 on September 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM
Fallon on September 23, 2011 at 9:41 AM
Santorum was doing OK up until that moronic DADT answer (and, seriously, whoever that was in the audience booing that soldier needs to get a freakin’ life) and trying to talk over Perry when the man was up there trying to hang himself. Plummeted after that.
Cain and Romney winners last night.
Red Cloud on September 23, 2011 at 9:42 AM
It was the most moving and most compelling answer he gave tonight and stole the show.
I don’t agree with the last of the 9′s (Progressives would have put an NST down decades ago when they had control of Congress) but he is the one who is not married to any one idea but to the general concept of lower taxes that everyone pays and smaller government to allow our liberty to work its positive good for us, our society and our Nation.
I like the cut of that man’s pizza!
ajacksonian on September 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM
Cain/Rubio? Cain/Gingrich?
vboscaino on September 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM
Cain/West?
Cain/Rubio?
oldleprechaun on September 23, 2011 at 9:45 AM
Me too. The thing is none of these people, with the exception of Bachmann IMHO, could do a worse job than what we have now. I’d vote for any of them, including Ron Paul :) He had some good points last night too.
scalleywag on September 23, 2011 at 9:45 AM
This is who I support, but as I said in the thread about Perry losing the debate, if winning the debate was the barometer of support, Cain would be one of the top three candidates.
It is unfortunate that he is not.
rukiddingme on September 23, 2011 at 9:46 AM
He’s polished his game immensely. I think his fluffs this summer have still sunk him, but frankly, I could get back behind this guy as long as he admits his error in refusing to give any strategy to how he would handle Afghanistan.
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2011 at 9:47 AM
“…because I was able to do it on my time table instead of the governments time table”….
…Thank you…thank you…thank you Mr. Cain for actually exceeding expectations last night while the others lowered them.
Baxter Greene on September 23, 2011 at 9:48 AM
Sounds just like the government.
Cindy Munford on September 23, 2011 at 9:49 AM
I should have left it for professionals. lol
I’ve worked events where union dolts come up and say how dumb Sarah is. Or, “She sure is pretty (followed by some disgusting comment) but she ain’t got no brains.” I have to bite my tongue and keep from laughing at them.
Nice troll, Bish. You might make a friend, too.
Fallon on September 23, 2011 at 9:49 AM
Agreed: that is a function of the current system, the current party structure and the media.
None of these candidates are served well by this ‘debate’ format… and they aren’t driving out the commonality between them so that a common platform can be driven out for all of them and the party. That would require a new way of doing things…
ajacksonian on September 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM
reverting to stink bait. eeewww
tinkerthinker on September 23, 2011 at 9:53 AM
Cain should be first tier. Perry and Bachmann should be lower than second. Bachmann, not Cotter, should have been forced to drop out for her obscene substancelessness. If I hear her say “head of the spear” one more time, I’ll scream. Cain has a plan, he has charisma, he should be way up there.
andy85719 on September 23, 2011 at 9:53 AM
I like Cain a lot. If Perry continues to stink, and Palin continues to sit it out, then he is my guy.
bitsy on September 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM
I liked all of Cain’s answers, except when he said he’d consider Romney for VP.
Fallon on September 23, 2011 at 9:57 AM
I agree.
bitsy on September 23, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Presidential spare-tire.
Besides, he addressed it as a game show talking point! I had to stop laughing to hear his answer… then laughed some more…
ajacksonian on September 23, 2011 at 9:59 AM
I just watched that. Whoever booed is a vile person.
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2011 at 10:01 AM
After last night, I find myself a lot more comfortable with a Herman Cain presidency. The guy is smart enough to know that there are things he doesn’t know and would hire people who know those things and fit in with his general philosophy (translation: John Bolton or someone like him).
Everybody talks about Romney’s business experience — Cain actually ran a business that relied directly on having a product that people had to want in order for that business to succeed. Romney’s experience at Bain Capital doesn’t qualify in that regard.
either orr on September 23, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Somebody has been dumping phosphorous in the water because there seems to have been a fish kill.
Bishop on September 23, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Cain is getting stronger and stronger…If at least he is not picked as VP that would be a shame.
And he didn’t dodge any answer, even the “who would you pick as VP”.
I think dodging that one simple question told a lot about the candidates…some were afraid of making a mistake or giving credit to their opponents.
Maybe one of the most telling questions…allowing a question where the “sly” politicians slip out of it.
right2bright on September 23, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Herman Cain as a model American success story would be wonderful. Obama as the icon of Black Americans is such a warped joke on so many levels. Herman Cain is actually a descendant of the worse America had to offer to his race and came out a success by dealing in the best this nation has to offer. He went into a ridiculously competitive industry and came out on top. He knows of what he speaks and walked the walk. He is someone to be proud of no matter what the color of your skin is and shows that this country is awesome when it comes to opportunity for those that are willing to work at it.
Hening on September 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM
An open enrollment would be nice, the fishing would improve.
Bishop on September 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM
A Cain nomination offers two immediate upsides:
1) He’s a genuine conservative
and…
2) It allows for the immediate and unrelenting accusation of racism against any liberal who opposes him.
Dion on September 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Cain doesn’t have the depth on some issues but he is a mathematician and a real hands on problem solver. If he misses the nod he could handle the dismantling of all the progressive traps set in the government by the current and past administrations.
tim c on September 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM
The problem with Rick is his perma-scowl and tight-lipped tone.
Herman nailed it for me. My guess is that he gains big from both Romney & Perry. Rick sinks a little more. I wouldn’t be surprised if both Gary & RuPaul both gain a point or two.
AH_C on September 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM
I <3 Herman Cain. I'm still waiting to be impressed by the rest of the field.
CantCureStupid on September 23, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Rick Santorum was atrocious toward that soldier. Disagree with his lifestyle, but don’t show contempt. Disgusting. And his DADT reinstatement nonsense was laughable. Grandfather gays in? What. No no no. Can was the more sensible of the two. Santorum is just embarrassing.
andy85719 on September 23, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Herman Cain has behaved in these debates with a class and dignity befitting of the presidency. He also exudes a charisma and can do optimism that this country sorely needs right now.
Mike Honcho on September 23, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Cain, that is.
andy85719 on September 23, 2011 at 10:17 AM
Was Palin in the debate? Why is anyone even talking about her at this thread? Anyhoo, back to reality:
My 17 year old H.S. Senior is suddenly taking an interest in politics. I didn’t even watch it until the repeat (I slept through the 9 PM showing) so his opinions were entirely his own and he doesn’t have many preconceived notions. He was most impressed by Cain and Gingrich. When we discussed it this morning I told him Gingrich was a brilliant man but has a reputation as being a terrible manager (not a good quality for a President), and that Cain is not ready for the White House because he is unschooled on foreign policy issues and has no government experience at all. I suggested that both men would make superb Cabinet members.
Buy Danish on September 23, 2011 at 10:19 AM
CustomerTaxpayer satisfaction vsCorporateStakeholder profits?Both are desirable, but come from different mindsets. You will get the latter with the former, but the latter doesn’t produce the former. When taxpayers win, we all win.
AH_C on September 23, 2011 at 10:19 AM
He’s famous, people believe him all the time. He’s had to scale it back, not many are biting lately.
Cindy Munford on September 23, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Obama-like cult obsession.
Red Cloud on September 23, 2011 at 10:24 AM
yeah, because the tonal qualities of one’s voice trumps policy and position……/
NY Conservative on September 23, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Cain was fantastic on his criticism of ObamaCare, and his explanation of why he would be dead now if ObamaCare had been in effect in 2006.
Cain’s 9-9-9 plan might be harder to sell. From what he said during the debate, it consists of a 9% flat income tax, 9% corporate tax, and 9% federal sales tax. If this was enacted suddenly, we would have about half the population which currently pays no income tax suddenly see their incomes drop by 9% and prices of things they buy rise by 9%, resulting in an 18% drop in their standard of living. There would have to be some compensation (for example, elimination of Social Security and Medicare taxes, and/or some minimum income below which people don’t pay income tax) to get low-income people to accept this.
Cain’s 9-9-9 plan would have to be phased in gradually. There’s no question that a 9% corporate tax (compared to 35% now) would cause international corporations to flock to the United States and create lots of new jobs here, but the relocations would take a few years, and it would take time for companies to lower their sales prices to reflect their lower tax outlays. A sudden 9% sales tax would cause sharp short-term inflation in retail prices, which could provoke a short-term recession in the U.S. and the dollar to decline on world markets, and people along the northern border would buy Canadian goods to escape the sales tax.
A better idea would be to take small steps from the current system to the 9-9-9 plan, such as one-fifth of the transition each year for 5 years, which would mean that low-income people would only take a 3.6% hit each year, and this might give the economy enough time to create enough jobs to compensate their losses.
Steve Z on September 23, 2011 at 10:26 AM
Today……..Cain would get my vote.
Conservative, Simple plan, easy to understand, and I think HE ACTUALLY LOVES AMERICA. I think he’s prolly naive politically but he’d sure be better than Mr. Michelle Obama.
I’d love to see the Dems attack him.
PappyD61 on September 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM
Tangental to this; if this was a straight soldier weighing in on any topic, he’d be brought up on charges for engaging in politics while in uniform. But nothing will happen to this soldier cause he’s in a protected class now.
It’s been predicted that unintended consequences would result from lifting DADT, primarily UCMJ issues, and this is but the 1st instance two days out.
AH_C on September 23, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Yeaah but Cain was reading from a teleprompter. Oh. He wasn’t? /sarc
Dingbat63 on September 23, 2011 at 10:29 AM
You can say that again.
rollthedice on September 23, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Nice try, but Romney did not have a poor performance. In fact no other candidate has reason to feel better about the outcome of last night’s debate than Romney.
Go RBNY on September 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM
I didn’t know that about Cain. It does make me think that we need a good VP pick as well. I hate to admit it or think about it, but typically when you are cancer free for 5 years, it is only a matter of time before it comes back with a fury. Hopefully, he will have it in remission for 30 more years, but this is something to think about.
jeffn21 on September 23, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Cainrich 2012! It could happen!
alwaysfiredup on September 23, 2011 at 10:43 AM
It wasn’t good, at any rate. His performances in the prior two were much better.
alwaysfiredup on September 23, 2011 at 10:43 AM
I thought he won this debate as well. Hands down. He’s clearly improved his debate performance.
As for Palin… (Idea credit: ElectricPhase on September 23, 2011 at 8:58 AM)
BKeyser on September 23, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Blah blah blah. The detractors are the true obsessives.
alwaysfiredup on September 23, 2011 at 10:44 AM
The point is that Palin has chosen not to be in this arena so fantasizing about a Palin Presidency in the context of last night’s debate is farcical at best.
Buy Danish on September 23, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Instead of a spotlight, a flashlight would be more appropriate.
Buy Danish on September 23, 2011 at 10:54 AM
..I admit, Cindy, that was a little heavy handed. But there is some fragment of truth in that comment. I absolutely *adore* Sarah Palin. believe she has a lot credible to say as a conservative, and after having read her book, will not count her out of any contest. (She has an incredible knack for triumphing in the long run.)
But, her manner of speaking is a little grating. I find myself having to grit my teeth a little bit to endure her interviews with Hannity or Greta, etc.
Again, not to discount this wonderful lady and great conservative ..er..voice.
The War Planner on September 23, 2011 at 10:55 AM
I think that there would be no tax on income below a certain level. It would kick in after one’s income rose above that level. Considering that there are basic needs for living that should be exempt from taxation.
So, say a family of four has income of $50,000.00, the first $35,000.00 or so of income would be exempt.
It could work out, but then I am not an economist, but this is what I understand the “Fair Tax” proponents talk about when talking about a flat tax.
Jvette on September 23, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Cain is still the one I could support the most enthusiastically. I thinks Santorum, and ALL the other candidates missed a huge opportunity by not thanking the gay soldier for his service.
TedInATL on September 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM
Caingrich sounds better. I could support that ticket, but isn’t there a constitutional ban against a Pres. and VP being from the same state?
TedInATL on September 23, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Not to insult the wonderful you or anything but that is petty…
tinkerthinker on September 23, 2011 at 11:07 AM
I thought Mittens came off like the whiny spoiled elite he is. Cain won this debate hands down.
I could get behind Cain/Gingrich easily. If Mittens is the nominee, I will still vote for him, but I will hold my nose doing it. I am sick of that swarmy, used car salesman time (Clinton, Obama, Romney, and even Perry). Bachmann is too ditzy (and she looks creepy). Ron Paul is still a nutjob and the rest are milquetoast candidates at best.
Wolftech on September 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM
Seven Percent Solution will never see this post.
fossten on September 23, 2011 at 11:15 AM
I find that it is more of a problem when she appears to feel the need to fill time with words. As in her job as a pundit. When you see her answer questions in a crowd, even with the press, she is concise and effective. I know which I would like to see her expand on.
Cindy Munford on September 23, 2011 at 11:19 AM
IF I remember correctly I think Cain stated that HE would get the “facts of information” about the situations in Afahanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, etc.. from the personnel that know the situation best (Military Leaders, Intelligence, etc)first – then discuss with them their recommendations – analyze – and the final decisions will rest with him..
None of the Candidates have the FULL knowledge of what and why things are happening as they are. The PE will be given this info once he is in office..
I have had my Cain bumper stickers since March and donated to his campaign
I think Obama had to change his tune on his campaign rhetoric once he was filled in with ALL the info..
Panentheist on September 23, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Right. The ones who bring her up in every discussion, they’re not obsessed. It’s only the ones who are tired of hearing PalinPalinPalin all the freaking time whether she’s the subject or not.
Red Cloud on September 23, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Electors from Georgia would be unable to vote for both, presuming that Gingrich is still from Georgia. He’s been living in Virginia or something.
Red Cloud on September 23, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Alas, the problem with the whole system.
I’m impressed with Cain’s focus on problem solving. Very high trust factor in his plus column.
itsacookbook on September 23, 2011 at 11:34 AM
..exactly! You got it in one, as they say. I cannot improve upon perfection.
Have a wonderful day, madam! Hell, for that matter, have a wonderful weekend!
The War Planner on September 23, 2011 at 11:36 AM
No, it is not. Please sharpen your reading skills..
..he said, leaving himself open for a witty riposte.
The War Planner on September 23, 2011 at 11:38 AM
If this grown man in the video is 26, why is he still on his parents’ insurance? Why is he still living like a child? Is he going for his PhD? Usually you go after that after you stat working, not just go straight through. If his parents can afford to send him to college for that long, why can’t they afford to buy him insurance? A lot of unanswered questions there.
jeffn21 on September 23, 2011 at 11:50 AM
I do believe Sarah has already talked about this, death panels. Herman just related a real-life experience and made the point.
Mirimichi on September 23, 2011 at 11:51 AM
True, but the candidates should at least be able to articulate their opinion on the situation, and their planned goals.
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2011 at 12:09 PM
You are right on that. It’s why it baffles me that people can’t tell the difference between someone like Steve Jobs and someone like Warren Buffet. Also Cain has run many business and was known as someone to hire to get a business out of the red, a job he excelled at. I have confidence he would hire someone like Bolton to deal with foreign affairs. My only misgiving is that remark about not allowing mosques to be built (that’s how it was reported) might be used against him.
Ann NY on September 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM
Bishop was bishing and it looks like he caught something.
John the Libertarian on September 23, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Herman Cain is top on my list after this debate.
Perry has shifted down for me. Cain was second on my list after the last debate. He continues to impress me, very highly.
Gingrich and Romney have shifted up.
BruthaMan on September 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM
I support Perry because Cain was going no where in the polls and with money (which is necessary).
But I agree with so many of the comments here that I can’t even quote them all.
I have always loved Cain. Cain has been my first choice all summer. Would make the best President, the best candidate and is the most electable.
If Cain started rising in the polls, I would switch in a heartbeat from Perry. (Who did very poorly last night, but one debate is not fatal and can be overcome.)
Besides all the many reasons to respect and love Herman Cain, I would want him running just so I could hear him say “Chilean” over and over. lol
Seriously though, I while I still have respect for Santorum, I don’t think he will come off well in a general. A bit whiny. But a man of great integrity who would make a great President.
Bachmann is off my radar now. Can’t see her as a good candidate.
Palin has lost some of my respect and she has lost my trust. If she was the nominee I would support her, but not with my heart and I still have serious doubts that she can overcome her negatives enough to win in enough states. States which in 2012 could easily go to Cain or Perry.
So maybe a miracle will happen and Cain will rise in the polls. Because he is a Godsend to the Republican party and this country.
He would mop up the floor with Obama.
Elisa on September 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Now would be the time to implement all of it. Look at it this way, the poor are paying way more than that already via gas, food and utilities etc. Assuming he gets in in 2013, in the time this change over is fast tracked, gas prices and living costs would trend down as we unwind the regulations and open up our resources. Unemployment drops as millions go to work and by the time the transition is complete, people should have more take home than they have now. Plus it fixes the issue of 47& not paying any income taxes.
AH_C on September 23, 2011 at 1:16 PM
You didn’t like the cheekiness of that answer? ;)
kim roy on September 23, 2011 at 1:20 PM
Huntsman showed great judgement by volunteering to a national audience, on TV, that his daughter has juvenile diabetes… even stating that she was sitting in the front row…
Perhaps he’d be willing to confide that he has a weak urinary stream? Or, that he has erectile dysfunction? Or, that he underwent gender transformation surgery 10 years ago?
What a self-serving moron.
Danny on September 23, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Hi Elisa,
I remember the last election well. After watching many of the debates, by mid-October, I decided to back Huckabee. Huckabee was polling at about 6% at that time. Polls were not looking good, but he really did well in the debates and won me over.
The following month, in November, Huckabee suddenly took off in the polls. Out of nowhere, he shot right up to the top tier and went on to win Iowa. For that matter, he did remarkably well in the primaries.
Anything is possible!
BruthaMan on September 23, 2011 at 1:49 PM
You are correct. That is heartening. Thanks.
Elisa on September 23, 2011 at 2:01 PM
Always liked Cain. What I like about him is that he answers questions directly. No BS. He also doesn’t come across as selling anything. (Granted, all the best salesmen don’t either.) He isn’t the most knowledgeable about all things presidential, but haven’t we shown that’s not really that relevant to getting elected?
If there’s anybody who could learn on the job, it’s Cain. I think his genuineness is just wonderful.
Pablo Snooze on September 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM
In presidential match-ups with Obama, Herman is only down 3 percent in latest Zogby and 7 percent in his latest Rasmussen match-up. That is not bad at all considering he only has a 50 percent name I.D. at this point. Cain can win this. He just needs people to support him instead of buying into the media’s hype. And both of those polls were before his great debate performance last night! Go Herman!!
Rasmussen:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/perry_44_obama_41_president_leads_other_gop_hopefuls
Zogby:
http://www.zogby.com/news/2011/09/13/ibope-zogby-poll-perry-holds-big-lead-among-gop-voters-only-romney-leads-obama/
squeek71 on September 23, 2011 at 2:09 PM
The only way that will happen is if people who like him support him now, not later. If people hold off on support, his numbers will remain static. He has a lot of fans out there. Folks just need to go ahead and support him and believe in him… and donate.
He is by far the best candidate IMO.
squeek71 on September 23, 2011 at 2:19 PM
I’m just going to have to go with whomever comes out on top, I really don’t like most of them.
Romney – flip-flopping RINO
Perry – Religious nut, weak on immigration, a bit too crony for my tastes, but a lot of solid experience, he’s also the only candidate with military experience
Bachmann – religious nut, anti-vaccine, no leadership experience of any kind, talking head only, has never had to make an executive decision and be accountable for it
Huntsman – I love Obama letter, used car salesman
Cain – Great business man but has never held office of any kind. Has no foreign policy experience and seems to have little knowledge of it. Go back and run for state office then try again. My 18-year-old son really liked him a lot
Gingrich – great history teacher, good debater, absolutely no morals
Santorum – Religious nut, jerk, yet another lawyer with no business experience
Ron Paul – crazy on foreign policy, good fiscal conservative, doctor but only in the House from which no one has won in a century
Gary Johnson – did GREAT things as New Mexico’s governor, very popular there, I agree with most of his policies, very successful self-starting businessman, has a more moderate position on foreign policy than Ron Paul, it’s too bad he’s not a good public speaker, he has a lot of good ideas to share.
Common Sense on September 23, 2011 at 3:11 PM
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