Quotes of the day

posted at 10:30 pm on September 23, 2011 by Allahpundit

“‘It’s not who is the slickest candidate or the smoothest debater that we need to elect. We need to elect the candidate with the best record and the best vision for this country,’ said Perry.

“‘Remember President Clinton?’ he continued. ‘He could sell ice cubes to Eskimos and then the next day be against ice cubes.’”

***

“The first line of Rick Perry’s campaign obituary may have been drafted Thursday night: He got in too late…

“A more seasoned candidate would be better informed on national security policy, fluent to the point of knowing by heart his chief opponent’s core vulnerabilities, and would never offend his party’s base with such a pointed attack. And a more sure-footed one would have recognized that he couldn’t get away with the claim that he issued an executive order on HPV after being ‘lobbied’ by a cancer victim—because it has been publicly established that he met the victim only after he made the decision…

“What may hurt Perry the most, though, is if the ongoing series of debates create the impression that he simply doesn’t have the capacity to get up to speed. If, after the four additional forums scheduled between now and the Iowa caucuses, Perry shows no ability to give a cogent answer on a foreign policy question or discuss the country’s domestic challenges in a way that veers from his top-line talking points, Romney’s slow and steady approach will have the ex-Massachusetts governor positioned to take advantage.”

***

“The Republican presidential debate in Orlando was sponsored by Google, but it was Gov. Rick Perry who was searching. The frontrunner’s answers meandered. When fielding a hypothetical question about terrorists getting nukes in Pakistan, his response ribboned out like he was reading the first search results to come up. Even when he read his attack lines on rival Mitt Romney from the notes on his lectern, it was muddy. This was Perry’s third debate this campaign; with each successive one, his performance gets worse.

“The race between the Republican frontrunners has been between electability and authenticity. ‘Paint Creek’ Perry is one of you—he prays, he speaks plainly, he’s from a small town in Texas—and Moneybags Mitt ain’t. Romney’s pitch: He can beat President Obama, whereas Perry is too reckless. At the debate, Perry not only failed to make the case about Romney’s essential phoniness, he turned the weapon on himself (Perry-kiri?), creating several self-inflicted wounds to the heart of his authenticity pitch…

“The emotional connection Perry is trying to create is more powerful than the intellectual pitch Romney is making. That may allow Perry to weather his poor performance in this debate. Republican voters are still in the shopping stage. Perry can get back on track, but for now his debates are the un-Google: They raise more questions than they answer.”

***

“Reading the reactions of thoughtful commentators after the stage emptied, talking with conservative policy types and GOP political operatives later last evening and this morning, we know we’re not alone. Most won’t express publicly just how horrified—or at least how demoralized—they are. After all, they still want to beat Obama—as do we. And they want to get along with the possible nominee and the other candidates and their supporters. They don’t want to rock the boat too much. But maybe the GOP presidential boat needs rocking…

“Now there are some legitimate excuses. With nine candidates on the stage, and answers restricted to one minute, it’s hard to really show your stuff. And two of the candidates—Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney—did provide respectable performances. But no front-runner in a presidential field has ever, we imagine, had as weak a showing as Rick Perry. It was close to a disqualifying two hours for him. And Mitt Romney remains, when all is said and done, a technocratic management consultant whose one term as governor produced Romneycare. He could rise to the occasion as president. Or not.”

***

“At Thursday’s debate, it was hard to watch Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s performance and not recall Sarah Palin

“Perry is now going to have to grapple with the very Palin-esque idea that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about on issues of foreign policy. And in fact, the issue had already been raised quite a bit even before Thursday’s debate.

“Developing foreign policy chops as a governor takes time, and it’s pretty apparent that Perry had not banked on being a presidential candidate until very recently. As such, he’s operating at a deficit and will have a hard time making up for lost time. (Some are already asking whether he simply got into the race too late.)”

***

“Al Cardenas, a former Florida GOP chair and chairman of the American Conservative Union, predicts that despite his campaign’s efforts, Perry might have just lost his chance at a straw poll win in the past few days.

“‘If you ask me, I would have said three days ago that Perry’s going to be a runaway winner in this forum. I’m not so sure anymore,’ Cardenas says. ‘Rick Perry’s probably going to lose a few. He may still have the most, but it’s not as clear cut as I thought a week ago.’”

***

“The governor’s camp believes that his forceful, unapologetic style represents one of Perry’s greatest assets against his principal rival for the GOP nomination, Mitt Romney. ‘Perry is a very straight shooter,’ says Ray Sullivan, the campaign’s communications director. ‘Romney speaks and acts like someone who is afraid of taking a strong position and offending anyone … and voters on our side of the aisle are looking for stronger, bolder candidates.’

“The flip side is that Perry has never needed to systematically persuade voters who aren’t inclined to agree with him, nor has he had to defend his agenda against formidable opposition. It’s not just that Democrats have lacked any effective platform to challenge him since 2002; liberal groups in the state are weak, and the once-vibrant capital press corps has withered under cutbacks. ‘He’s never had to face a cohesive, well-funded, talented opposition,’ said Democratic consultant Jason Stanford. ‘He’s occasionally faced some of those things, but never all at once.’”

***

“Rick Perry stands on the precipice. He is about to fall off. If he wants to be the anti-Romney candidate, he needs to do a few things quickly. First, he needs to get a comprehensive economic plan out soon. Second, he needs to answer some tough questions on immigration. Third, he needs to talk about America more than Texas. Fourth, he needs to not lose the next two debates. He does not have to win. He just cannot lose.

“If Perry can hold his own in the debates he’ll be fine not winning the debates outright. But another performance like last night could push him off the edge of support among people who want an anti-Romney alternative, but who really want to beat Barack Obama even more.”

***

“‘Perry was off his game, big time,’ Santorum says. ‘Or maybe that is his game.’”

***

Via the Daily Caller.

***

Click the image to watch.

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4

Baxter Greene on September 24, 2011 at 1:52 AM

I’m trying not to get to wound up about it, there is so much time before the election. I am also very cynical about the media’s attempts to encourage us to act hastily thereby determining our nominee. Again.

Cindy Munford on September 24, 2011 at 1:57 AM

Excellent post!..Seems like I recall that a poster did warn us early on..I agree we must get this nominee right for sure..:)

PS..Great to see you..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 1:30 AM

After watching these debates……I have to say that even with the drawbacks (electability….terrible support from Independents,lack of knowledge on how to handle Capitol Hill,Foreign policy)…..

….I have to say that Sarah Palin inspires me the most.

Baxter Greene on September 24, 2011 at 1:58 AM

I’m out too, I can’t see the monitor. Stinger, I’ll catch tomorrow on FB with those pictures.

Later dudes and dudettes.

Knucklehead on September 24, 2011 at 1:58 AM

HornetSting on September 24, 2011 at 1:55 AM

Enjoyed it as always..Later..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 1:59 AM

Knucklehead on September 24, 2011 at 1:58 AM

Enjoyed it as always..Later..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 2:00 AM

Big game tomorrow!!..Good luck..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 1:42 AM

Nice way to start conference play…

Gohawgs on September 24, 2011 at 2:01 AM

I’m trying not to get to wound up about it, there is so much time before the election. I am also very cynical about the media’s attempts to encourage us to act hastily thereby determining our nominee. Again.

Cindy Munford on September 24, 2011 at 1:57 AM

…right…

I would very much have liked to avoid the red on red fighting we are seeing and have these candidates concentrate on Obama’s failed policies and how they would turn this nation around (remember the 2008 democratic primary race was composed of mostly bashing Bush/Republicans and very little red on red)….but the herd has to be thinned out.
You are right though…no need to panic.

Baxter Greene on September 24, 2011 at 2:02 AM

Baxter Greene on September 24, 2011 at 1:58 AM

I see your point..I’m stuck in the middle again..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 2:02 AM

Gohawgs on September 24, 2011 at 2:01 AM

Again I wish you luck!..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 2:04 AM

I’m stuck in the middle again..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 2:02 AM

Sounds like a song

Gohawgs on September 24, 2011 at 2:06 AM

)….but the herd has to be thinned out.
You are right though…no need to panic.

Baxter Greene on September 24, 2011 at 2:02 AM

I agree..Excellent post..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 2:07 AM

Gohawgs on September 24, 2011 at 2:06 AM

Bingo!..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 2:08 AM

OK. Who can I hit in the head?

Lanceman on September 24, 2011 at 2:21 AM

OK. Who can I hit in the head?

Lanceman on September 24, 2011 at 2:21 AM

Not Brutus, he ate his…

Gohawgs on September 24, 2011 at 2:23 AM

Lanceman on September 24, 2011 at 2:21 AM

Guess you have to ride the bull first!..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2011 at 2:23 AM

Too bad my buddy Knucklehead ain’t here. I had something to say…

Lanceman on September 24, 2011 at 2:25 AM

And where the hell is that fool cd seven?

Grammy.

Lanceman on September 24, 2011 at 2:26 AM

Lanceman on September 24, 2011 at 2:26 AM

Maybe that was he/sheit was the guy in that bar spouting off to Bristol…Link provided on page 1 by cf…

Gohawgs on September 24, 2011 at 2:29 AM

Maybe that was he/sheit was the guy in that bar spouting off to Bristol…Link provided on page 1 by cf…

Gohawgs on September 24, 2011 at 2:29 AM

I saw everything.

Lanceman on September 24, 2011 at 2:32 AM

There are candidates that I would be excited about: Paul Ryan, Rubio, Mitch Daniels, and Jindal. Those candidates are articulate, smart, and authentic.

And they’re not running.

And that annoys me because each of those guys gives speeches about how serious our economic problems are, but apparently they’re not serious enough for them to step into the ring. Ryan doesn’t want to subject his family to the rigors of the campaign, but he’s willing to risk their financial future with another 4 years of Obama.

With this current crop of candidates I find myself hoping for a brokered convention with the nominee being picked from a group of great candidates who chose not to run in the primaries.

PackerBronco on September 24, 2011 at 3:20 AM

Hats off to AP for compiling some of the best political threads around

Home run, inserting into the global-meltdown-debate thread the National Review piece on jobs and illegals in TX

Most won’t express publicly just how horrified—or at least how demoralized—they are

Right. shocked, shocked. yada

Now there are some legitimate excuses. With nine candidates on the stage, and answers restricted to one minute, it’s hard to really show your stuff

Wasn’t that the point? Isn’t that why Huntsman entered the race? They probably needed a Gemini or something

it is starting to feel like someone’s pulling a Giuliani. Taking cell phone calls during a speech or doing some other unthinkable

One might ask: why would a Texan shoot off his own toe, and come on Hannity the next day and shoot off the other toe? I would rather take cell phone calls

They’ve been shuffling the deck. Here comes the Christie card. Heard the feed that a group of influential millionaires are begging him to jump in. Shades of the Bush recruiting saga. Beg. Beg.

“Perry is now going to have to grapple with the very Palin-esque idea that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about on issues of foreign policy

It wasn’t foreign policy anyone was talking about

Perry is a very straight shooter,’ says Ray Sullivan, the campaign’s communications director.

Not about border control

“One of his greatest strengths is how much we underestimate him.” But it does mean that Perry’s first instinct usually is to rouse his base rather than reach beyond it.

I don’t underestimate the manipulation that is going on. There is a lot of money at stake. The big boys should be scared. Some of these people think they are really running for President.. time to call in another dark horse

“‘Perry was off his game, big time,’ Santorum says. ‘Or maybe that is his game.’”

heh

entagor on September 24, 2011 at 4:09 AM

O/T
=====

On the heels of the UN/Israeli/Plastinans thingy,
Irvine University is having a meltdown,on there
Anti-Isreali DisRupters were found guilty of dis
rupting the visiting Isreali Ambassdor a year ago
or so,

and,it paints who really is on Israeli side,another
Lefty Lie shot down to ahem,h*ll!

This Shinning Light of Truth is on this poisonous thinking
at Universities is on parade,right during this Isreal/Pa-lee
High(Noon)Tension!!
—————

US students convicted for disrupting speech
Added: 26 mins ago Occurred On: Sep-24-2011
********************************************

Ten US college students from Southern California

have been convicted of unlawfully disrupting a speech by Israel’s ambassador to the US last year and placed on probation.

Friday’s verdict followed two full days of deliberations by a six-man, six-woman jury in a case that has touched off a furore over free-speech rights at the University of California at Irvine.
The students, who were ordered to perform 56 hours of community service, are to remain on probation for three years. But they could have that reduced to a year once they complete the community service.

Charges against an 11th defendant have been tentatively dismissed.

“We’re going to continue fighting this. We’re going to appeal this decision,” supporter Marya Bangee, 25, said outside the court.”These men to us represent our struggle for civil rights in this country and for them to be found guilty and sentenced for speaking their minds is devastating for us all.”
The case stems from a protest organised by the Muslim Student Union at the university against a February 8, 2010, speech there by Michael Oren, the Israeli diplomat.
Pro-Palestine protest
(More…Image and Video)
===========================

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b32_1316851608

canopfor on September 24, 2011 at 4:52 AM

canopfor on September 24, 2011 at 5:17 AM

O/T
=====

2012 Hopey Research
——————-

Profiles in Patronage

The Bundlers:Money/Access/Rewards
**********************************

The Center for Public Integrity

iWatch News
Investigation. Impact. Integrity
**********************************

http://www.iwatchnews.org/2011/06/15/4880/obama-rewards-big-bundlers-jobs-commissions-stimulus-money-government-contracts-and

canopfor on September 24, 2011 at 5:24 AM

Thats,research,..s/p!

canopfor on September 24, 2011 at 5:26 AM

O/T
=========

Okay,WTF,is this not Corruption,and a reason this Administration
will not get America back on its feet,for 2012!

Incompetenet Financial Donors are securing employment in the US
Government!

Exhibit “A”,already setting itself up,for a repeat of
Failure in 2012!!!
=============

iWatch News reported in June how many bundlers from the 2008 campaign had jobs or commission spots from the administration.

In total, 43 bundlers from 2008 later received government appointments and have returned as bundlers for 2012. Of those, five were listed as giving $500,000 or more so far in 2012. They are:

John Emerson, of Beverly Hills, who was appointed to the Advisory Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations, raised at least $100,000 in 2008.
Michael Kempner, Cresskill, N.J., was named to the Council for Community Solutions. He bundled $100,000 for the 2008 campaign.
Kirk Rudy, of Austin, Texas, was appointed to the United States Holocaust Memorial Council. He raised at least $200,000 for 2008.
Andy Spahn, a $50,000 bundler in 2008 who was appointed to the President’s Commission on Arts and Humanities, has raised more than $500,000 so far for 2012.
Jane Stetson, of Norwich, Vt., a $200,000 bundler in 2008, also has reached the $500,000 milestone for 2012. She is a chair of the Democratic National Committee and her husband was appointed to the board of the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
The early and aggressive fundraising by the Obama campaign, the DNC and outside groups underscores how the money chase for the next election is expected to far outpace the fundraising frenzy of 2010.
(More….)
================

http://www.iwatchnews.org/2011/07/15/5241/27-obama-bundlers-have-already-topped-500000

canopfor on September 24, 2011 at 5:33 AM

PBHO’s debating days are numbered:

Countdown until Obama leaves Office
484 Days, 06 Hours, 26 Minutes, 05 Seconds.

MJBrutus on September 24, 2011 at 6:33 AM

‘It’s not who is the slickest candidate or the smoothest debater that we need to elect. We need to elect the candidate with the best record and the best vision for this country,’ said Perry.

“‘Remember President Clinton?’ he continued. ‘He could sell ice cubes to Eskimos and then the next day be against ice cubes.’”

I don’t care if the guy is a slick debater, but I do care if he is a crook or not. In that regards, I think Perry and Clinton have a lot in common. I don’t think either one of them will ever get caught doing anything overtly criminal, but there is a certain kind of self serving slickness to both of them.

Perry has changed his mind on a lot of things over the years and that in and of itself does not make him dishonest. We all have a change of heart from time to time..but so often in Perry’s case it seems to me that change of heart has more often been guided by self interest than conviction.

Maybe it is the references to his folks as tenant farmers and all the crap about eastern colleges and cocktail parties etc. The truth is Perry has made a lot of money, he lives high on the hog, he hangs out with a lot of rich people and yet we have to listen to these tiresome ah shawks ma’am speeches from this guy. It just feels wrong to me.

Terrye on September 24, 2011 at 6:51 AM

I would very much have liked to avoid the red on red fighting we are seeing and have these candidates concentrate on Obama’s failed policies and how they would turn this nation around (remember the 2008 democratic primary race was composed of mostly bashing Bush/Republicans and very little red on red)….but the herd has to be thinned out.
You are right though…no need to panic.

Baxter Greene on September 24, 2011 at 2:02 AM

I absolutely agree with this. The herd does have to be thinned out and some red on red fighting has to take place..However, it is tiresome when one side of the fight is constantly dismissing the other side as Rinos or they are assuming that any fault of their own personal favorite is just a result of the media slamming their candidate.

Reagan faced a hostile media, but he also won big. He did not get on stage in a debate and come off like an idiot or a crazy person.

Terrye on September 24, 2011 at 7:03 AM

The Texas Dream Act is a problem for Gov. Perry.

kingsjester on September 24, 2011 at 7:49 AM

Any cruise that AP goes on would have to allow his cats and lotion…..

Just sayin’.

darwin-t on September 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM

Thread winner right here, and very telling. We have some people outraged at how a 20 yr old handled the situation, but the 47 yr old gay guy is given somewhat of a pass.

miConsevative on September 24, 2011 at 12:25 AM

Those of whom you refer aren’t interested in thinking about how youth affects reaction. They see an opening to bash a Palin. My wife of 38 years is an easy-going type that avoids conflict. When she was 22, fresh out of college, if an idiot like that had said that to her, his nads would have ended up between his shoulder blades.

NoNails on September 24, 2011 at 8:52 AM

I don’t know what’s sillier, the guy at The Fix using Perry to take a swipe at Palin, or AP seeing it as QOTD-worthy.

NoNails on September 24, 2011 at 8:53 AM

I think Perry’s “debate” performance deficiencies are overblown. Perry is what he is. Perry isn’t what some people think or wish that he is.

Imo, Perry’s real problems with the base, and particularly the Tea Party, have not really been exposed adequately. The Gardasil issue opened the door to one of his biggest problems, but it got side-tracked by Bachmann’s silliness about mental retardation, and by those who turned it into a debate about the efficacy of the vaccine and the horrors of cervical cancer.

Face it, Perry’s got a cronyism problem. Merck and Convergen are just two examples that will haunt his candidacy. He’s got a lot to explain about the ties between his donors and the Texas Emerging Technologies Fund awards.

NoNails on September 24, 2011 at 9:10 AM

The photo of Perry looks like he was “rode hard and put away wet”.

Amjean on September 24, 2011 at 9:22 AM

I don’t know what’s sillier, the guy at The Fix using Perry to take a swipe at Palin, or AP seeing it as QOTD-worthy.

NoNails on September 24, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Nah, I don’t think it was AP but rather some commenter who went off on a tangent with the Bristol Palin stuff.

ddrintn on September 24, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Nah, I don’t think it was AP but rather some commenter who went off on a tangent with the Bristol Palin stuff.

ddrintn on September 24, 2011 at 9:25 AM

It was AP who decided that the Perry-Palin comparison was QOTD-worthy.

NoNails on September 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Rush called it right last month when he said those debates were nothing more than TV productions done to make the networks look good. Hannity confirmed it yesterday on the radio when he said, good job FOX, great production. Why was Johnson there? Who chose those video questions, they were stupid. The debaters looked like kids fighting in a sandbox. You can always tell when Mitt is parsing his words, he starts to stutter.

Kissmygrits on September 24, 2011 at 9:44 AM

It was AP who decided that the Perry-Palin comparison was QOTD-worthy.

NoNails on September 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Ohhhh, OK, sorry. It’s still early for me here. I see what you meant now. I thought you were referring to that bar business.

ddrintn on September 24, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Daily Beast Cheat Sheet Perry is still beating Romney.

It’s Time to Buy Rick Perry Stock
Sep 23, 2011 6:46 PM EDT
Mitt Romney’s debate “win” won’t erase his evil socialistic Massachusetts history or make him any more likable—and by November 2012, Rick Perry just might not be too extreme or too Texas, says Michael Tomasky.

Dr Evil on September 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Mitt Romney’s debate “win” won’t erase his evil socialistic Massachusetts history or make him any more likable—and by November 2012, Rick Perry just might not be too extreme or too Texas, says Michael Tomasky.

Dr Evil on September 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Which means that Rick Perry is going to rely more on an anti-Romney vote than a pro-Perry vote (and the two aren’t quite the same). It doesn’t bode well for Perry. He’s going to have to step it up or else he’s finished, to end up somewhere in the polls in the Bachmann neighborhood.

ddrintn on September 24, 2011 at 10:07 AM

I am LOL at all of this.

First of all, we have MSM outlets telegraphing to us that we should run away from Rick Perry. That should tell us something right there.

Second of all, we are supposed to believe Perry is a bad candidate because he didn’t hold his own on foreign policy against Rick Santorum, when this comparison would have been like expecting George W. Bush in 2000 to win a debate against Condoleeza Rice.

Does ANYONE think this campaign is going to be about foreign policy?

LOL.

The MSM wants Mitt Romney to be our nominee. Obama’s people have a campaign against him in the can and did in 2008. (That doesn’t mean I think it will work, just that they they do have their knives sharpened and their focus-group-tested attacks ready.) They don’t have a freaking clue how to run a campaign against Rick Perry.

rockmom on September 24, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Rush called it right last month when he said those debates were nothing more than TV productions done to make the networks look good. Hannity confirmed it yesterday on the radio when he said, good job FOX, great production. Why was Johnson there? Who chose those video questions, they were stupid. The debaters looked like kids fighting in a sandbox. You can always tell when Mitt is parsing his words, he starts to stutter.

Kissmygrits on September 24, 2011 at 9:44 AM

And what have the ratings been for any of these? Are there really serious numbers of GOP primary voters watching them? I doubt it. So why are we falling for the MSM’s attempt to use them to damage Rick Perry ort any other candidate?

rockmom on September 24, 2011 at 10:18 AM

First of all, we have MSM outlets telegraphing to us that we should run away from Rick Perry. That should tell us something right there.

rockmom on September 24, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Wrong. People are running away from Perry because he’s been unimpressive.

ddrintn on September 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM

And what have the ratings been for any of these? Are there really serious numbers of GOP primary voters watching them? I doubt it. So why are we falling for the MSM’s attempt to use them to damage Rick Perry ort any other candidate?

rockmom on September 24, 2011 at 10:18 AM

So debates matter or they don’t matter. Make up your mind. The fact is, if Perry had done well in these debates you’d be saying how he’d sealed the deal.

ddrintn on September 24, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Who has the prudence and courage to bring expenditures into line with receipts and to return the Americans to a federal order?

Marsili.us on September 24, 2011 at 11:46 AM

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4