Video: The left’s got a fever and the only prescription is Elizabeth Warren talking about tax hikes

posted at 3:29 pm on September 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

Deep thoughts from the new frontrunner for Senate in Massachusetts. Transcript via Jonah Goldberg:

I hear all this, you know, ‘Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever. No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.

You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.

Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea. God bless — keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.”

What I like about this is how unbothered it is by the question of what the factory owner’s fair share of taxes might be. The implication, clearly, is that no amount would ever be fair. “We” built an entire civic infrastructure around this factory, without which it couldn’t operate, so really the factory owner can never thank us enough. It’s a blank check for tax hikes unto eternity. In essence: “I helped pay for that sidewalk, now give me your wallet.” In fact, if you had no knowledge of American tax law while listening to this shpiel, you might reasonably conclude that “factory owners” pay no taxes at all. They’re complete free riders — using the roads, relying on the police, making bank off the backs of public-educated workers, and never offering so much as a thin dime to the system in gratitude. In reality, that factory owner is paying for more of that road, public school, and cop’s salary than you or I are. Beyond that, though, I’m amazed at how easily she overlooks the wealth created by the factory as a contribution to society. Not all of it ends up in the owner’s pocket, even though he/she assumed the massive risk of starting the plant. The factory provides jobs; it generates demand for suppliers; and if it’s successful it cranks out a product that others use to generate wealth of their own. And the more wealth there is, the easier it is to pay for those roads and cops and schools. Memo from factory owners to Warren: You’re welcome.

The reason this is a viral hit on the left, of course, is because they think most of their political problems boil down to “messaging.” Their platform is foolproof — genius top to bottom — but the sheer ingenious complexity of the scheme means they have trouble explaining it to the common voting yokel. Case in point: ObamaCare. The program’s obviously brilliant, but poor O had a devil of a time explaining why in those 500 speeches he gave on it. Warren has them buzzing because, if this clip is indicative, she has a knack for explaining how rich parasites are getting fat off The People in terms average voters might understand. I don’t begrudge them a little viral excitement; lord knows, we’ve had endless fun with Chris Christie’s clips. But at least Christie’s focusing on entitlements, the long-term driver of America’s budget problems. Warren’s focusing on … this. Won’t solve much, but I’m sure it feels good.

Exit question: Does the social contract also require accountability with taxpayer money?

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Maiden name is Herring. I suppose her nick could be Red

a capella on September 22, 2011 at 3:32 PM

” You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory”

Unless it’s Gibson Guitars.

(Stolen from Ace’s)

JohnTant on September 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM

No one can be this stupid.

Mirimichi on September 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Its shows the liberal mentality. It really is Star Trek. Just go to a machine and order whatever you want and it appears.

Tax productivity, tax what people purchase, tax when people die.

Because we all know the magic machine will create more.

William Amos on September 22, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Maiden name is Herring. I suppose her nick could be Red

Or perhaps: pickled

cktheman on September 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM

I haven’t seen a lecture on Marxism in a while. That’s as I remember.

faraway on September 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM

What about the 50% who pay $0 in taxes and also use the highways every day? They don’t need to pay anything back to society, right Lizzie?

angryed on September 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM

You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory

UNTIL NOW! And they have a name, The Democratic Party!

GarandFan on September 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM

This stupid trick makes $350k for just one class at Harvard.

How much should we let her keep?

tetriskid on September 22, 2011 at 3:35 PM

You built a factory out there?

Yes, “out there”, but sure as hell not in Massachusetts.

I worked in MA for a couple of years and there are quite a few empty factories, but I don’t recall seeing any new ones.

forest on September 22, 2011 at 3:35 PM

She actually IS that stupid.

SgtRed on September 22, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Congrats Sen. Scott Brown on your reelection. I think it’s safe to call it this early.

If Warren really believes this(and she sounded sincere in the clip), then the woman is insane. And a Communist. By her rationale, a person’s entire wealth essentially belongs to the state since one could not earn any of it without the assistance of their fellow taxpayers and the benefits provided by government services.

Doughboy on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

She is successfully pandering to the 1-800-877-CASH now crowd.

portlandon on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

oddly enough the hundreds of billions in defense spending that has provided stability for the continental USA is left out of her rant.

rob verdi on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

And to think it costs $50K a year in tuition to be taught by this woman.

angryed on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

This is a typical left wing, Democrat screwball . . . the woman is an intellectual midget.

rplat on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

So, if you drive on roads, the government is responsible for your success or something?

Red Cloud on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

She must have given a nice pep talk on the floor of the NYSE today.

forest on September 22, 2011 at 3:37 PM

She is indisputedly nucking futz.

Tim Zank on September 22, 2011 at 3:37 PM

that’s such a stupid argument. Everyone agrees that teh gov’t has the power to tax and that certain functions are appropriate to gov’t.

So what? claiming that nobody would be rich w/o the gov’t and therefore taxes should be raised is simply circular reasoning.

It is a purely communist argument – the state is our loving father and anything we have is a gift from teh state, which the state can take away at any time.

the argument isn’t whether “rich people” benefitted from roads, schools, law enforcement, etc. – of course they did as everyone else does.

The question is how much of those and other things should the gov’t be involved in doing, how much should the gov’t be spending on those things, and how much should taxes be.

to simply assert “hey, you get services for your taxes” as the reason to raise taxes is simply not an argument. Are the services appropriate? Are they cost effective? should the gov’t even be engaged in those services? Those are the questions.

Liberals should be ashamed that their god Obama has someone as stupid as this woman as an appointee.

Monkeytoe on September 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM

You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory

Calling Solyndra.

faraway on September 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Pretzel logic.

Mirimichi on September 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM

What a complete loon.

Ward Cleaver on September 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM

You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory

Because if that happened, there wouldn’t be anything left for the Democrats to seize.

dirtseller on September 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM

I like the opposite…there is no public sector employee that has ever created any wealth on their own. They have used the tax dollars of the entrepreneurs to pay for their salaries, vacation time, health benefits, retirement plans, boondoggles,….etc..

joepub on September 22, 2011 at 3:39 PM

“There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.”

I beg to differ with ya, witch.

Schadenfreude on September 22, 2011 at 3:39 PM

The marginal utility of a road to a factory is far less than the tax bill currently being paid by the factory owner.

Vashta.Nerada on September 22, 2011 at 3:39 PM

If “we” built all these wonderful things, why will my federal quarterly tax payment be larger than the annual payments made by almost half the population combined.

forest on September 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM

What about all that money that was wasted on the welfare recipients education and the money that we continue to pay for them? Do we get refunds or something??//

lakeman on September 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Putting aside the fact that the people she is kvetching about are the ones who pay most of the taxes. More is never enough.

Notice the examples she provides. All of them are STATE and LOCAL government obligations. She doesn’t because she cannot justify the exorbitant excesses of Fed-zilla. Roads, firemen, cops, teachers are not the job of the Feds. The Constitution may as well be written ancient Greek for all the knowledge these public servants know about it.

MJBrutus on September 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Would someone also explain to her that the factory/company doesn’t pay taxes but collects them from consumers and employees? You know, the folks that use those roads, first responders, etc.?

Rufus on September 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Just think…


… she’s a teacher!

Seven Percent Solution on September 22, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Gosh, she is so smart…

d1carter on September 22, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Businesses are already paying road taxes, school taxes, taxes for fire and police, gas taxes, energy taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, and a tax on telephones dedicated to paying off the debt from the Spanish-American War (1898).

What we are currently debating is whether or not the “Big Chunk” of money businesses are allowed to keep will be what remains after various taxes suck up 52% or 55%.

Haiku Guy on September 22, 2011 at 3:41 PM

So, if you drive on roads, the government is responsible for your success or something?

Red Cloud on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

That’s her economic philosophy in a nutshell. Emphasis on “nut”. Obviously no rational person would argue that a wealthy person doesn’t have a responsibility as a member of society to pay taxes to fund basic services. But she’s acting like someone who’s well off got that way by never paying a dime and screwing over everyone else.

Doughboy on September 22, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Go back in time…

… What came first, the business or the government?

Seven Percent Solution on September 22, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Just think…

… she’s a teacher!

Seven Percent Solution on September 22, 2011 at 3:41 PM

She is paid $350K to teach one class…

But it’s cool… because “roads” or something.

tetriskid on September 22, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Why doesn’t the govt just build factories while they’re out creating all that other infrastructure?

rw on September 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Great dissection, AP.

As you point out, does the social contract only go one way? What are the reciprocal obligations of the state? Or the recipients of the state’s largesse that they take from others?

For the left, it seems that there is only one obligation under this contract: from those that produce and risk.

I welcome this discussion.

SteveMG on September 22, 2011 at 3:43 PM

I don’t begrudge them a little viral excitement; lord knows, we’ve had endless fun with Chris Christie’s clips. But at least Christie’s focusing on entitlements, the long-term driver of America’s budget problems. Warren’s focusing on … this. Won’t solve much, but I’m sure it feels good.

Also, what Christie says is generally intelligent, not idiotic. this woman is opening her mouth and letting crap spill out – there is no brain activity involved.

“You have money? that’s right, you only have that money b/c of the gov’t. Now give it here.”

I suppose you could use the reverse to argue that criminals should not be prosecuted for evading taxes. After all, for instance, a drug dealer makes his money despite the law – he has to provide his own protection and logistics, etc. He cannot rely on law enforcement to protect him, nor courts to enforce contracts. Thus, he makes his money without relying on the social contract and therefore it is unfair to prosecute him for not paying taxes on that ill gotten wealth.

Monkeytoe on September 22, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Excuses, libs live by them.

What business is it of Ms Warren’s that any American use their own tax payer funded roads or mandated safety services?

Except to incite hatred for political power.

Speakup on September 22, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Ask Mao who paid for the government?

faraway on September 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Equal parts Ivy Starnes and Ma Chalmers. For all the Libs who mock Ayn Rand and ‘Atlas Shrugged,’ Warren’s speech is a succinct summation of the views of those two minor characters.

elcapt on September 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Warren’s salary is what, $160k per year? You know, Warren wouldn’t be getting a salary or the perks of her job if not for all the little people around her working and being taxed, therefore I move to take 3/4 of Warren’s pay and redistribute it to the less fortunate.

Of course Warren will happily go along with that for the good of the people.

Bishop on September 22, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Does the social contract also require accountability with taxpayer money?

What, how dare you? We descended from Olympus at great personal inconvenience to live among you to tell you how to live. Now pay up and vote properly.

joeindc44 on September 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM

In the poll topic, I did say the difference between Brown and Warren is huge. The left loves her and we don’t need to give the mainstream media the ability to anoint her a rising star of the democratic party.

If Scott Brown is a RINO we should make sure he stampedes the heck out of this socialist academic, who moonlights as a regulator. I’d rather have a moderate in the Senate, then a darling of the political left. If she’s in the nightly news will have near nightly quotes of her wisdom for all Americans, to set her up to be President.

Scott Brown is our best hope to stop her now. Mike Ditka regrets not taking a chance to stop Obama in 2004, let’s not have any more regrets. If you don’t like Brown (and a lot of people said so in the poll topic, saying it would be the same), I suggest you stay quiet and focus your energies on places where a real conservative could be a real chance in 2012 (Utah, Indiana, Florida, Nebraska, Montana, Ohio, Arizona, West Virginia, among others and most of all the White House). But lets not give our next President, this headache by screaming RINO at Brown.

amazingmets on September 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Isn’t it half the workers who don’t pay a federal income tax? Or half the adults? And don’t talk to me about payroll tax. That’s supposed to be a retirement program. So those who pay no tax … and presumably are paid for working at their job … what do we owe them?

Why does everyone mentions roads, and Mississippi (though not this time) when they talk about the necessity of the federal government? How many roads can we build?

Paul-Cincy on September 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM

“You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory…”

Really…?

“Lunatic labor union holds security hostage and destroys property!”

Seven Percent Solution on September 22, 2011 at 3:48 PM

What about the 50% who pay $0 in taxes and also use the highways every day? They don’t need to pay anything back to society, right Lizzie?

angryed on September 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM

No, because they are on the receiving end of the social contract. And they’re oppressed or something. And the factory owner had to have exploited them in some way to get his dirty money. Yeah.

stvnscott on September 22, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Dear anti-Scott Brown whiners:

THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE.

A 74% ACU rating is better than a negative 150%.

fiatboomer on September 22, 2011 at 3:48 PM

So by this logic, if nobody were to build factories then we wouldn’t need the roads?
Marxism is so confusing.

ouldbollix on September 22, 2011 at 3:49 PM

It’s time for the Massholes to unite and give us our savior!

MeatHeadinCA on September 22, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Congrats Sen. Scott Brown on your reelection. I think it’s safe to call it this early.
Doughboy on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

I dunno about that. This is the state that elected Ted Kennedy a million times.

a capella on September 22, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Elizabeth Warren — Bernie Sanders with shorter hair?

dirtseller on September 22, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Nothing is better than giving a face to stupidity. And we all know that as Ron White said: “You can’t fix stupid.”

search4truth on September 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM

You built a factory college out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods students to market college on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers enroll students the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory ivory tower campus because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory ivory tower campus — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.

Thanks for opening the Harvard Gate to us barbarians, and our kids too!

Pay if forward!

Bruno Strozek on September 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM

…so really the factory owner can never thank us enough

The attitude you describe, AllahPundit, is precisely what Ayn Rand nails so beautifully in Atlas Shrugged. It is never enough, and you will be “guilted” into feeling ashamed of your success.

yubley on September 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM

you shrill, hysterical harpie/scold, don’t be silly. the “marauding bands” are too busy attacking random white people and flash mob robbing 7-11s to be rioting in the non-existant factories of MA.

mittens on September 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM

If we use the public roads – or schools – or any other state provided entity then we’re all beholden to the state?

Okay, we can now ban abortion since women use public roads to access the clinic and the people working there did too. Without the state abortion wouldn’t be possible.

Let’s see how that one goes over.

It’s silly.

SteveMG on September 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM

What a fascinatingly STUPID woman Elizebeth Warren truely is!

HOW could ANYONE think there would even be that road WITHOUT the FACTORY being there first? Has this idiot ever been to any place where a factory is actually built?

Someone should ask her where CEMENT comes from?

She is an idiotic marxist fool that should be ridiculed for her IGNORANCE every time she speaks in public!

Freddy on September 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Elizabeth Warren — Bernie Sanders with shorter hair?

dirtseller on September 22, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Bernie is a Socialist. Warren is a Mao loving Marxist.

faraway on September 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Imma gonna let you keep a chunk, but you bess be not talkin shizzle ’bout it.

John the Libertarian on September 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Did you notice there was not one dissenting or questioning face in the crowd?
Socialist sheep.

albill on September 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Yeah, factory owners live in a bubble at the factory. They don’t pay any property taxes or sales tax or gas tax. They don’t pay any taxes./

vcferlita on September 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Stupid, but she still hasn’t outdone Martha Coakley.

Ask her what team Tim Wakefield plays for. To really sink as a New England politician, you need a Red Sox-related gaffe.

See: John “Manny Ortez” Kerry and Martha “Schilling’s a Yankee lover!” Coakley.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

I hear all this, you know, ‘Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever. No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.

Nice to see that Harvard education paid off, comrade Warren.

What an insipid boob this woman is.

As someone else commented earlier. What about all those people living on their “entitlements” that WE pay for. Should they be allowed to go anywhere, since they’d have to use transportation, sidewalks, roads that they do NOT pay for? Hmmmmmmmm?

capejasmine on September 22, 2011 at 3:53 PM

It’s all about the Central Planning, and the successful completion of the current Five-Year Plan, Comrade!

Another Drew on September 22, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Yep, this means that Scott Brown is like her and it doesn’t matter that he loses. He is from Taxassachussetts after all, right?

Apologetic California on September 22, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Oh and by the way….she’s ahead of Brown. Is this what the people really want? Really???? Communism?

capejasmine on September 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM

What is Harvard’s endowment, Liz?

And how much does it pay its janitors, gardeners and maids?

Wethal on September 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM

You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory

True!
Before Obama, “You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory”, now like a “protection racket”, you should “worry about marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory” unless you pay up to Obama’s reelection cause!
Is this the Chicago way?

DSchoen on September 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM

This is what I remember her for…

d1carter on September 22, 2011 at 3:56 PM

so really the factory owner can never thank us enough.

spot on, AP.

ted c on September 22, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Makes the case against tenure quite nicely.

a capella on September 22, 2011 at 3:56 PM

The implication, clearly, is that no amount would ever be fair. “We” built an entire civic infrastructure around this factory, without which it couldn’t operate, so really the factory owner can never thank us enough. It’s a blank check for tax hikes unto eternity. In essence: “I helped pay for that sidewalk, now give me your wallet.”

Clearly? No. Not what she said, and not what she meant. Quite a stretch for you to extrapolate all that, probably because all you have in response is the simple-minded elitist nonsense that we all need to bow down to the factory owner and relieve him from paying taxes because we’re so fortunate that he’ll allow us to participate in the business he built all by himself. In a vacuum. Job creators! Oh please, job creators! We’ll give you whatever you want, just don’t take away our jobs!

Constantine on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

What is Harvard’s endowment, Liz?

And how much does it pay its janitors, gardeners and maids?

Wethal on September 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM

hehe

What came first? The Harvard endowment? or the Corporation?

faraway on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory

Why? Is congress not in session?

PackerBronco on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Did you notice there was not one dissenting or questioning face in the crowd?
Socialist sheep.

albill on September 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

And that in and of itself, is truly scary!!!

capejasmine on September 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Constantine on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

LOL! Are you a college freshman, by any chance?

a capella on September 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM

I don’t have a problem with a word in the excerpt. We d need to pay taxes to provide essential services. She just needs to define the word “hunk.” Keep that in the single digits, as a percentage of income, and we in agreement.

Ted Torgerson on September 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Why? Is congress not in session?
PackerBronco on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

No, because the public unions are on their annual late summer holiday; no thugs available to crash the place and beat people up.

Bishop on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Constantine on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Face reality. The factory owners pay a lot of taxes. A lot higher percentage of their income does than you or I do. No one here is saying they shouldn’t pay taxes. They’re just saying that they probably already pay enough.

strictnein on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Even Marx realized that the productivity of capitalism would create vast wealth and revolutionize social relationships making possible an eventual socialist society.

This mental defective believes that the state can wish wealth into existence. A total collectivist. She is BHO’s female doppelganger.

vilebody on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

It looks like she’s in someone’s home.

She better be thankful she’s not in California, otherwise she’d be fined for having a fraternal gathering without a permit!

bigdubs on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

“All your achievements are belong to us.”

DamnCat on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

She’s the front runner only in a badly screwed poll. AP your observation about the factory owner appearing not to pay taxes is spot on. She makes it sound as if producers have no right to live and contribute nothing.

Thats a very ignorant point of view she has there.

dogsoldier on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

… their income does than…

strictnein on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

fixed

strictnein on September 22, 2011 at 4:02 PM

oddly enough the hundreds of billions in defense spending that has provided stability for the continental USA is left out of her rant.

rob verdi on September 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Funny, that.

98ZJUSMC on September 22, 2011 at 4:02 PM

Clearly? No. Not what she said, and not what she meant. Quite a stretch for you to extrapolate all that, probably because all you have in response is the simple-minded elitist nonsense that we all need to bow down to the factory owner and relieve him from paying taxes because we’re so fortunate that he’ll allow us to participate in the business he built all by himself. In a vacuum. Job creators! Oh please, job creators! We’ll give you whatever you want, just don’t take away our jobs!

Constantine on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

[scratches head]

???

And your blog is still a failure.

stvnscott on September 22, 2011 at 4:02 PM

We d need to pay taxes to provide essential services. She just needs to define the word “hunk.” Ted Torgerson on September 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM

And essential. Don’t forget essential.

a capella on September 22, 2011 at 4:02 PM

Fine! I’ll just move my factory to China. Screw You!

Kini on September 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

The attitude you describe, AllahPundit, is precisely what Ayn Rand nails so beautifully in Atlas Shrugged. It is never enough, and you will be “guilted” into feeling ashamed of your success.

yubley on September 22, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Without people that feel guilty for their accomplishments, modern liberalism cannot exist.

slickwillie2001 on September 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

Can someone dig through her tax records?

She’s a tax dodger I bet.

Apologetic California on September 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

Will this kind of garbage work in MA? As for those who are worried that some of us don’t sufficiently love Sen. Brown…..I don’t vote there. I cheered him on, he is ok but I won’t be donating to his campaign.

Cindy Munford on September 22, 2011 at 4:05 PM

and a tax on telephones dedicated to paying off the debt from the Spanish-American War (1898).

That has been paid for some time yet it still magically appears on your phone bill every month.

jdkchem on September 22, 2011 at 4:06 PM

First you wrote this:

Clearly? No. Not what she said, and not what she meant. Quite a stretch for you to extrapolate all that

Then you wrote this:

probably because all you have in response is the simple-minded elitist nonsense that we all need to bow down to the factory owner
Constantine on September 22, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Looks like you were doing some stretching and extrapolating of your own since AP didn’t say that.

You feel stupider than usual right now, don’t you?

Bishop on September 22, 2011 at 4:06 PM

She is paid $350K to teach one class…

But it’s cool… because “roads” or something.

tetriskid on September 22, 2011 at 3:42 PM

That is remarkable, actually. 350k? A class!?

RDE2010 on September 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM

a capella on September 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM

President of the Drama Club.

Cindy Munford on September 22, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Why does anyone owe more, and why does anyone deserve more, than they are paid for doing their job? Elizabeth Warren wants to speak loudly and strongly from the point of view of society, of the collective. Well, I’m part of that “society”, and I don’t want her speaking for me. I will help pay for minimal government services. Beyond that, I’d prefer to make my own decisions about what to give to the “collective”.

Paul-Cincy on September 22, 2011 at 4:09 PM

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