New Fast & Furious audio: Border Patrol agent killed by F&F weapons was “collateral damage”

posted at 6:18 pm on September 21, 2011 by Allahpundit

It’s not an ATF agent who utters those magical words, it’s the Arizona gun dealer who was working with the ATF on Fast & Furious. He utters them to an ATF agent, though, to which she replies with a cryptic “mm-hmm.” Callousness — or strategy?

However, the lawyer representing the Lone Wolf Trading Co. says owner Andre Howard made the tapes only after he suspected he was being lied to, and his language is meant to get Hope MacAllister, an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, to implicate herself and her agency in their illegal gun running scheme.

“He became very suspicious and in his own defense would tape key conversations with Ms. MacAllister and try to get her to make admissions about the truth of the matter,” said Dallas attorney Larry Gaydos. “Andre was trying to get her to admit that indeed they let guns go to Mexico.”…

Howard made the tapes in March 2011 after a meeting he and his attorneys held with federal officials. In that meeting, Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley continued to insist the guns Lone Wolf sold were stopped and seized before reaching Mexico.

But ATF officials are quoted in a Washington Post article and the Spanish language daily La Opinion saying just the opposite — blaming Lone Wolf for “selling guns to the cartels” with no mention that Howard was operating under the federal government’s direction, encouragement and approval.

The “collateral damage” exchange comes in the first clip below. The second clip, also between Howard and MacAllister, was posted yesterday at CBS and apparently shows MacAllister this time suggesting that the DOJ would have to tell Chuck Grassley to “sit your ass down” if he insisted on calling a hearing and demanding more info on F&F. And that’s where we’re at today in the curious case of an American law enforcement official shot dead by guns provided to drug cartels by the Department of Justice — aong with 200-300 Mexican citizens, of course. Exit question: Anyone covering this story anymore except CBS and Fox News?

Update: New from Reuters, just as I’m posting this. Is the DOJ’s probe of Fast & Furious actually a way to derail the House’s investigation?

In a letter released on Wednesday to Acting Justice Department Inspector General Cynthia Schnedar, they expressed deep concern over her decision to turn over to U.S. prosecutors in Arizona audio recordings obtained during her investigation.

Representative Darrell Issa, head of the House Oversight Committee, and Charles Grassley, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said Schnedar apparently did not consider the significant harm caused by giving the recordings to those under investigation.

They criticized the move as potentially obstructing the congressional probe into the operation because potential witnesses may have colluded about what to tell investigators

The letter described how an ATF supervisor, in discussing the congressional inquiry, allegedly said, “We are all on the same sheet of music. And if we stay on the same sheet of music, we will be all right.”


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Fast and Furious scandal? Vin Diesel? – MSM

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Fast and Furious scandal? Vin Diesel? – MSM

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Paul Walker smiles.

portlandon on September 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM

If those Mexicans were killed actually crossing the U.S-Mexico border by American agents, the lickspittle media would be hyping it from the rooftops.

But 300 dead Mexicans from a scheme developed by PBHO’s people, oh well.

Bishop on September 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM

And this is why I believe this scandal is the strongest one. Lives were lost, including agents. This was Obama’s “under the radar” fight on gun control. To have a footing in weapons bans citing how American guns were being fed to the Mexico Drug War. It backfired and they are in full cover up.

Hang the bastards.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM

It is time for the ENTIRE Congressional GOP to demand investigations on this – Obama’s budget be damned. The MSM will be forced to cover it .

Daemonocracy on September 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Paul Walker smiles.

portlandon on September 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Heh, I had to Bing that name.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:23 PM

About the coverage… nope. It’s been brushed under the carpet. Issa wants a special prosecutor, but not until he has all the facts to hold that prosecutor responsible. I read he said it is hard to turn over to the DOJ to investigate themselves. Smart man

sandee on September 21, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Can it not be said that the MSM is deliberately ignoring this scandal?

Just ask yourself one question: Were this a Republican administration….

Chip on September 21, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Exit question: Anyone covering this story anymore except CBS and Fox News?

Is that rhetorical? Is anyone else covering it? If I don’t see it on Fox or here, I don’t see it.

Cindy Munford on September 21, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Its a ploy by DOJ

http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-criticize-u-probe-mexico-gun-sting-220747245.html

Representative Darrell Issa, head of the House Oversight Committee, and Charles Grassley, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said Schnedar apparently did not consider the significant harm caused by giving the recordings to those under investigation.

They criticized the move as potentially obstructing the congressional probe into the operation because potential witnesses may have colluded about what to tell investigators.

“Each of these disclosures undermines our ability to assess the candor of witnesses in our investigation and thus obstructs it,” Grassley and Issa wrote.

William Amos on September 21, 2011 at 6:25 PM

And that’s where we’re at today in the curious case of an American law enforcement official shot dead by guns provided to drug cartels by the Department of Justice — aong with 200-300 Mexican citizens, of course.

we need to find out their names, their stories, and keep this going drip by painful drip until the whole story is known.

ted c on September 21, 2011 at 6:26 PM

In a way the slow burn on this scandal may help us in damaging Obama and holding these jokers to account. It can be used in the run up to 2012 and not be swept away by a compliant media who may be forced to cover what they are currently ignoring.

sharrukin on September 21, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Hope MacAllister, mm hmmm translation: lil fish get ate by bigger fish, it’s the circle of life.

Dr Evil on September 21, 2011 at 6:27 PM

I have many friends and family who are gun owners, as well as conservative, and when I mention F&F they have no idea what I’m talking about for the most part.

When I detail what has went on, their first reaction is disbelief. I can see on their faces: “If I haven’t heard it in the news this must be some far out there conspiracy that has very little basis in fact.”

It seems the MSM non-coverage is working to delegitimize the whole sordid affair.

preallocated on September 21, 2011 at 6:28 PM

we need to find out their names, their stories, and keep this going drip by painful drip until the whole story is known.

ted c on September 21, 2011 at 6:26 PM

Wouldn’t Mexican media have all this on hand. 200 people dead is a lot.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Does anyone know why the victim’s family is not hiring lawyers and causing a fuss?

Hate to poke at the family, but it seems if they don’t do anything it’s going to be a long time if ever that this will get the coverage/respect it deserves.

kim roy on September 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM

The founding principles of this Country is that no one is above the law…

… that even the President, and all who work for him are held to the same standards as a private citizen.

That is the mortar, or at least the ideal that holds this society together…

… Once that sacred trust is erased, the damage done is irreversable.

Good going Champ…!

Seven Percent Solution on September 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Standard Disclaimer Dept.

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Standard Disclaimer Dept.

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Too bad the body count isn’t fake.

Chip on September 21, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Exit question: Anyone covering this story anymore except CBS and Fox News?

Is that rhetorical? Is anyone else covering it? If I don’t see it on Fox or here, I don’t see it.

Cindy Munford on September 21, 2011 at 6:24 PM

C-BS in fact broke this story, last winter. Sharyll Atkisson was the lead reporter, and she kept on this story until she was mysteriously replaced by someone else right after the ATF guy testified in secret to Issa’s Committee over the 4th of July weekend.

Even more mysterious? C-BS put her back on the story just a few weeks later, and she’s still covering it.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Too bad the body count isn’t fake.

Chip on September 21, 2011 at 6:34 PM

But of course Watergate was far more evil.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:35 PM

This one will make Solyndra look like a bar bet that went unreported to the IRS 20 years ago, if even half of what we hear can be proved.

Unless I can be persuaded otherwise, and I would have to see some pretty jaw-dropping evidence, this is basically a covert assault on our second amendment that blew up in everyone’s face and now hundreds are dead…..hundreds.

Imagine if Canada did this to us. Any country, for that matter. I can’t believe that they let .50′s walk. Look up a .50 cal on youtube, if you don’t know what they are capable of.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Wouldn’t Mexican media have all this on hand. 200 people dead is a lot.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Not when thousands upon thousands have died in the Juarez area alone in the past four years.

It was just reported today that trunks of 30+ bodies were found under a bridge near Vera Cruz. Eleven were female and all showed signs of torture.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Look up a .50 cal on youtube, if you don’t know what they are capable of.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Yep, heads explode like watermelons.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:40 PM

KMA then let us kick backwards.

The law got rid of this kind of defense when getaway drivers were just as guilty as shooters in a crime. Why this hasn’t been front page news since day one is obvious. Shame on anyone involved, and shame on all FnF decisions makers, and justice for the dead and maimed.

Limerick on September 21, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Wouldn’t NRA be interested in exposing this.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

But of course Watergate was far more evil.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Interesting. A break in on behalf a paranoid president who was already going to win the election is more important than the murder of a U.S. Federal agent that may have been caused by the president.

Also notice how ratting out a U.S. based CIA agent was more important than the murder of a federal agent as well?

scotash on September 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Too bad the body count isn’t fake.

Chip on September 21, 2011 at 6:34 PM

But of course Watergate was far more evil.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Yeah, that’s their story and they’re sticking to it even with all the deaths and the apparent attempt at subverting the Constitution of Walkergate.

Chip on September 21, 2011 at 6:46 PM

The COVERUP from “the most transparent administration, evah!” continues with the complicity of the MSM.

Color me NOT SURPRISED.

GarandFan on September 21, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Exit question: Anyone covering this story anymore except CBS and Fox News?

You know, my cynicism is pretty thick. But I always thought that if government corruption went so far as to literally get people killed, then the SDM would cover it, even if it were democrat corruption. Lesson learned.

Weight of Glory on September 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Holder: There’s tapes?! If the DOJ takes over investigating itself, the investigation is over before it began.

Kissmygrits on September 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

This is why Obama is BFF with the mafia goonions. I have no doubt a lot more than “sit your ass down” is being threatened.

txhsmom on September 21, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Not when thousands upon thousands have died in the Juarez area alone in the past four years.

It was just reported today that trunks of 30+ bodies were found under a bridge near Vera Cruz. Eleven were female and all showed signs of torture.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Aren’t these murders a bit different even under those conditions.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Thanks for continuing your coverage of this, AP.

Were it not for the blogosphere, the Media would not be reporting this at all.

USCitizen on September 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM

The letter described how an ATF supervisor, in discussing the congressional inquiry, allegedly said, “We are all on the same sheet of music. And if we stay on the same sheet of music, we will be all right.”

So 300 Mexican citizens, Agent Terry, and who knows who else are dead, and the IG just says…I’m gonna side with the libs, and help with the cover up?

How can anyone that supported Obama, and claimed to be about justice, condone this? How????

capejasmine on September 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM

You know, my cynicism is pretty thick. But I always thought that if government corruption went so far as to literally get people killed, then the SDM would cover it, even if it were democrat corruption. Lesson learned.

Weight of Glory on September 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Compare how media handled Palins “map of terror” after Tuscon.

Most journalists are scum.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Aren’t these murders a bit different even under those conditions.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Yes, I agree in the sense that they were performed with guns fed from the American government. Absolutely they should be pissed.
But with all their troubles and deaths so rampant, I don’t think it even shows up on their radar.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Most journalists are scum.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:58 PM

That is proving to be the case, day after day.

Weight of Glory on September 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM

For Reference:

March 7, 2011 White House: No comment on ATF gun-walking controversy
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20040189-503544.html

March 23, 2011: Obama on “gunwalking”: Serious mistake may have been made
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20046151-10391695.html?tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea

Obama knew of the Scandal as far back as last March and most likely earlier.

Why hasn’t he appointed a Special Prosecutor and ordered a full investigation to clear his administration’s name?

Chip on September 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Not to sound overly clinical, but….why waste that kind of ammo on a person? I’d be going after bank trucks and “VIP” convoys. Scary scenarios I don’t even want to type out.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2011 at 6:35 PM

But is it true that CBS (I saw what you did there) and Fox are the only ones covering it? The death toll and the American agent death would make the average person think it would be hard to ignore.

Cindy Munford on September 21, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Another reason the MSM is basically ignoring this is the basic thrust of the story:
The Obama administration initiated an operation to attack the second amendment and gun ownership that resulted in deaths.

MSM: “There’s a problem here?”

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 21, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Wouldn’t NRA be interested in exposing this.

the_nile on September 21, 2011 at 6:43 PM

The NRA has been involved in the investigation, in fact they discovered it’s not just guns the 0bama regime has been handing out, but grenades too.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/townhallcomstaff/2011/09/07/katie_pavlich_on_nra_news_grenadegate_and_operation_fast_and_furious

Rebar on September 21, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Not to sound overly clinical, but….why waste that kind of ammo on a person? I’d be going after bank trucks and “VIP” convoys. Scary scenarios I don’t even want to type out.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM

True, it is definitely overkill.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM

And that’s where we’re at today in the curious case of an American law enforcement official shot dead by guns provided to drug cartels by the Department of Justice — aong with 200-300 Mexican citizens, of course.

we need to find out their names, their stories, and keep this going drip by painful drip until the whole story is known.

ted c on September 21, 2011 at 6:26 PM

This. You know that if this was a Republican scandal, the Mexican widows would be on 60 Minutes and every other news show, crying about their dead husbands and demanding justice.

slickwillie2001 on September 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM

True, it is definitely overkill.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Little known fact: The Mexican army has no tanks, only APC and armored cars – all vulnerable to .50 fire.

One of the reasons large swaths of Mexico are literally controlled by drug cartels, the central government can no longer claim sovereignty over the entirety of their territory.

Rebar on September 21, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Andre Howard is going to be ground up into little pieces.Fall guy deluxe.Before it is over they will have proof he did it all on his own.

docflash on September 21, 2011 at 7:11 PM

True, it is definitely overkill.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Like shooting a fly with an elephant gun, heh.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM

This DOJ is making Janet Reno look like an angel.

Well, not really, but you know what I mean…

hillbillyjim on September 21, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Little known fact: The Mexican army has no tanks, only APC and armored cars – all vulnerable to .50 fire.

One of the reasons large swaths of Mexico are literally controlled by drug cartels, the central government can no longer claim sovereignty over the entirety of their territory.

Rebar on September 21, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Interesting, didn’t know that. They need something bigger and stronger than those.

Like shooting a fly with an elephant gun, heh.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Yep.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Sure looks like some of our federal officials are accessories to murder.

mikeyboss on September 21, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Does anyone know why the victim’s family is not hiring lawyers and causing a fuss?

Hate to poke at the family, but it seems if they don’t do anything it’s going to be a long time if ever that this will get the coverage/respect it deserves.

kim roy on September 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Brian Terry’s family attended the Congressional Hearings this past summer and his cousin, a Secret Service agent testified on behalf of the family. At that time the family was considering filing a lawsuit. I would assume they’re waiting for further information from the investigation before they proceed.

GrannySunni on September 21, 2011 at 7:36 PM

The blatant lack of attention being paid by the MSM is one more nail the coffin they have been building for themselves! This is an “under the radar” attack upon the 2nd Amendment carried out by allowing people to be killed with the consent and direction of our current administration. They wanted bodies, it is the only way to get to their goal, right?

bluemarlin on September 21, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Well, I’ve been permanently off the MSM since they pushed Obama the Lightbringer unto us via the David Brooks “saps”.

piglet on September 21, 2011 at 8:24 PM

I tell my friends about this and they look at me sideways, incredulous, but I persist. I tell them hundreds of people are dead. I tell them no mechanism was in place to trace the guns moved in those straw purchases, which was supposedly the the raison d’être of the whole operation. I tell them high-ranking officials of the DoJ show up in front of Issa’s committee with indecipherable answers and hundreds of pages of blacked-out, redacted documents. I tell them everything I’ve learned. I tell them what I think the implications are: that this was an attempt to influence gun control legislation and tighten regulatory controls, that the violent deaths of hundreds of Mexican nationals and at least one Border Agent were not the unfortunate byproduct of a bungled operation gone horribly awry; rather, their deaths were the point of the whole affair. Multiple murders were the intended outcome.

It is incredibly frustrating, sad and maddening. If this country had a truly free and independent press, word of this monstrous scandal would be shouted from rooftops and loudspeakers in the street. As it is, there is only we few, talking among ourselves.

troyriser_gopftw on September 21, 2011 at 8:33 PM

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM

yep Hang em high

Grunt on September 21, 2011 at 8:37 PM

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM

yep Hang em high

Grunt on September 21, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Yep, in a perfect world of justice! In this one, who knows?

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 8:39 PM

If those Mexicans were killed actually crossing the U.S-Mexico border by American agents, the lickspittle media would be hyping it from the rooftops.

But 300 dead Mexicans from a scheme developed by PBHO’s people, oh well.

Bishop on September 21, 2011 at 6:22 PM

So true. Part of the problem is that, to most of the Make Believe Media, 300 dead bodies is no big deal if the goal of stricter gun control is furthered. Broken eggs, omelettes and what not. I don’t think they would flinch at 3,000 or even 30,000 quite frankly.

holygoat on September 21, 2011 at 8:51 PM

You can’t make an omelet without killing some Border Patrol Agents. Right, Mr. Holder?

Mason on September 21, 2011 at 8:52 PM

We need to start blasting this story across the blogosphere.

What is a concise website that has all of what we know so far?

Then post that to every story you reply to, no matter the topic.
Let people go read for themselves.

orbitalair on September 21, 2011 at 9:19 PM

As others have mentioned- the Sherlock Holmes clue – the dog that didn’t bark. So, just where is the NRA on all of this. They should be chomping at the leash. But nothing but ‘crikets’! There’s something missing in this picture!

Bob in VA on September 21, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Look up a .50 cal on youtube, if you don’t know what they are capable of.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Yep, heads explode like watermelons.

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:40 PM

carbon_footprint on September 21, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Not to sound overly clinical, but….why waste that kind of ammo on a person? I’d be going after bank trucks and “VIP” convoys. Scary scenarios I don’t even want to type out.

Mord on September 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM

The reason is range. The .50 BMG round is essentially a scaled up .30-06, which was the standard US battle rifle cartridge for 50 years until replaced by the 7.62×51 NATO in the ’50s. The .30-06 was the most commonly used sniper rifle cartridge as well, with an effective range when used by an expert marksman in an accurized rifle of 1000-1200 yards.

During the Viet Nam War, Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock rigged an M2 Browning heavy machine gun to fire single shots and mounted a Unertl scope for long range sniping from firebases. The .50 BMG cartridge had an effective range of over 2,000 yards in that setup, and Hathcock held the record for longest confirmed kill with a 2,500 yard shot using the modified M2 Browning from 1967 until 2002 when Canadian Master Corporal Aaron Perry made a slight longer shot with a vastly superior MacMillin TAC-50 in 2002 in Afghanistan.

Since then some very specialized loads have been designed that out-perform the standard .50 BMG in sniping applications, and even more specialized cartridges and loads surpass the .50 BMG performance in many respects. The current record is 2,707 yards held by CoH Craig Harrison, a British sniper using a specialized rifle shooting a .338 Lapua Magnum cartridge. The .338 Lapua is highly effective against soft targets at long ranges, but it doesn’t compare to the .50 BMG on harder targets. It doesn’t require as large and heavy a platform, so it is easier to carry and use on long range infiltration missions. But the .50 BMG is still the most commonly used extremely long range sniper cartridge, and it has the benefit of still being the most effective when used on harder targets like APCs.

So the .50 BMG is overkill on soft targets in some ways, but to get the range needed in the vast expanses of Afghanistan you will necessarily have more kinetic energy than you need for soft targets.

novaculus on September 21, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Exit question: Anyone covering this story anymore except CBS and Fox News?

Just wondering; still holding out hope that there will be consequences on this or Solyndra, eh?

Midas on September 21, 2011 at 9:57 PM

orbitalair on September 21, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Sipsey Street Irregulars has a great rundown. See the journalist’s guides in the right hand column.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/

Also check out Bob Owens columns at PJM, and Farago at The Truth About Guns – http://thetruthaboutguns.com/author/robert-farago/

Also check out the House Oversight Committee reports and hearing transcripts and videos of the hearing on Fast and Furious are also easily found on the net and very informative.

novaculus on September 21, 2011 at 10:03 PM

I smell “conspiracy to obstruct justice”

J_Crater on September 21, 2011 at 11:15 PM

The COVERUP from “the most transparent administration, evah!” continues with the complicity of the MSM.

Color me NOT SURPRISED.

GarandFan on September 21, 2011 at 6:46 PM

While I am also not surprised by the MSM’s complicity in this cover-up, I am no less sickened by it. They have been losing viewers/readers for some time and it hasn’t moved them to do better. What will?

SKYFOX on September 22, 2011 at 6:39 AM

novaculus.

Thanks, I just changed my sig on my favorite forum.

“Stand Up. Traitors are among us. Google Operation: Gunwalker and Fast and Furious.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/

This needs to go viral. Google turned up lots of hits, articles from different sources, so its not just HA and Fox, which is good.

Pass it on.

orbitalair on September 22, 2011 at 8:21 AM

Under the Obama regime, we’re all just “collateral damage”.

RebeccaH on September 22, 2011 at 9:18 AM

orbitalair on September 22, 2011 at 8:21 AM

You’re welcome. I have certainly done what I can to spread the information.

novaculus on September 22, 2011 at 1:24 PM