Surprise: Solyndra execs to take the Fifth at congressional hearings next week

posted at 4:45 pm on September 20, 2011 by Allahpundit

That’s not what they said would happen last week. Remember? Philip Klein, September 13:

[GOP Rep. Cliff] Stearns, speaking to bloggers at the Heritage Foundation, said the executives called the committee staff yesterday and asked whether they would be allowed to delay their testimony until next week. If they were granted the additional time, they said they’d agree not to exercise their Fifth Amendment right not to answer questions.

“We’re a little flexible if they’ll come next week and testify freely and openly and transparently,” Stearns said. “I can’t say for sure, but most likely they’ll come next week and I think it would be very worthwhile for them to speak transparently and without taking the Fifth.”

Fast-forward a week and there are now four separate federal investigations into the company ongoing. Count ‘em: (1) The FBI’s been probing in conjunction with the Department of Energy; (2) the Treasury Department launched its own inquiry just a few days ago; (3) the House Energy and Commerce Committee is the body that’s been negotiating with Solyndra execs to appear before it and testify; and (4) earlier today Darrell Issa said his House Oversight Committee would start looking into the matter. That’s a lot of heat for a busted solar firm to absorb. And so, the inevitable:

Solyndra LLC’s chief executive and chief financial officer will invoke their Fifth Amendment rights and decline to answer any questions put to them at a Congressional hearing on Friday, according to letters from their attorneys obtained by Reuters.

In the letters sent to the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, attorneys for Solyndra CEO Brian Harrison and CFO W. G. Stover said they advised their clients not to provide testimony during the hearings.

How excited do you think the White House is, with public interest in Solyndra’s sweetheart federal loan peaking, for these two to decline to answer questions in full view of cable news cameras on grounds that doing so might place them in legal jeopardy? I can already see the YouTube montages — 20 or 30 iterations of “on the advice of counsel, I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination” all stitched together, maybe with a photo of Obama looking constipated overlaid while the audio plays. Chop chop, RNC ad team!

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They aren’t going to testify.

tetriskid on September 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Obama deserves this: It couldn’t happen to a bigger Jerk.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Welcome to the jungle, baby, you’re gonna die!

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Well,well,well.Of course they really can’t answer questions you know… It’s an on-going investigation already being done.Smart move by Obama to keep them mum. Of course they could be offered immunity…. Just saying…

sandee on September 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

colluding with the white house on the proper story must take time.

rob verdi on September 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

OMG!

See my earlier post for translation!

herm2416 on September 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM

a pardon is only 14 months away.

rob verdi on September 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Wow.

Didn’t expect this.

tetriskid on September 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Delicious

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Teflon wears out. It isn’t durable like steel or cast iron. Use it enough, pretty soon, stuff starts to stick to it.

a capella on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Funny thing is its the democrats who want Solyndra tried in the court of public opinion. They will throw them under the bus to save Obama.

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/environment/la-fi-solyndra-investors-20110920,0,5216539.story?track=rss

Reps. Henry A. Waxman (D-Beverly Hills) and Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) asked that executives from two of Solyndra’s largest private investors, Argonaut Private Equity and Madrone Capital Partners, be called to testify at a hearing Friday or in the near future.

One important question for the committee to examine is whether there were sound reasons to make an investment in Solyndra,” Waxman and DeGette wrote. “Some sophisticated and experienced private venture capital investors thought the answer was yes, and they invested over $1 billion in Solyndra — twice the support provided by the federal government.”

William Amos on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Is anyone surprised?

tpw on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Chop chop, RNC ad team

I wonder if they can even decline to attend. I don’t think they can, but the optics, yaknow….

ted c on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

“I’m not here to talk about the past.” – Mark McGwire, Solyndra executive

Doughboy on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Welcome to the jungle, baby, you’re gonna die!

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 4:48 PM

no youtubage, no cool points.

ted c on September 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM

They are toast even if they are not guilty of any crime except being dumb executives. Obama and the Chicago machine will see to it.

Johnnyreb on September 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Is anyone surprised?

tpw on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Yes, I’m SHOCKED! SHOCKED it tell you.

This is unpresidented…I mean unprecidented. Unexpected even.

Laura in Maryland on September 20, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Impatient for Hitler version.

a capella on September 20, 2011 at 4:53 PM

This is Watergate™ quality stuff. Obama, however, will come dancing through this without missing a single round of golf. The country is being run by a thugocracy with the help of the MSM propaganda machine.

Absolutely no stink will get on the Exotic Other.

NickDeringer on September 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM

colluding with the white house on the proper story must take time.

rob verdi on September 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

The cover up is what always gets them.

Popcorn time!!

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM

no youtubage, no cool points.

ted c on September 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM

I use BING!

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM

They are toast even if they are not guilty of any crime except being dumb executives. Obama and the Chicago machine will see to it.

Johnnyreb on September 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM

This is why they should ask for immunity and throw Obama under the bus. If they have anything on him it probably would be the only thing to save their hides…

sandee on September 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2011/09/20/tesla-motors-got-big-bucks-too-in-program-gop-wants-to-axe/

Bankrupt solar maker Solyndra isn’t the only Bay Area company that got half a billion dollars in loans from the feds. Tesla Motors, the all-electric car manufacturer headquartered in Palo Alto, received $465 million in low-interest loans in 2009 from the Department of Energy to jumpstart production of electric cars.

William Amos on September 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Please FOX and GOP candidates – bring this up at the debate.

gophergirl on September 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

As transparent as a pane of plate glass. God bless us all for putting in place the most ethical government EVAH!

Limerick on September 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

No way out. Obama is in the maze, running hard and fast, not ever realizing there is no exit, and we’re all watching for entertainment.

Run, Barack, run! Left, man, turn left..no the other left..

This is the point in Chauncey Gardners life that didn’t make it into the film, and thats the part where he becomes self-aware, and realizes he is a moron, and knows he isn’t smart enough to disengage without everyone else knowing.

Hahahahahahaha!

Yes….fast and furious…very nice.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

William Amos on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Or, in the case of Waxman, he is reacting to the cooling towards of Obama in his District… and distancing himself, just in case.

VastRightWingConspirator on September 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

I like the teflon wearing out story… Eventually the crap has got to get on THE ONE.
NO one will go to jail for him. Remember these are Libs and they talk a good game but none of them wants to be some bad man’s boyfriend.

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM

AP, I’ll help with that video…
If that hearing gains any media traction the spinmeisters are going to be dizzy.

JusDreamin on September 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Please FOX and GOP candidates – bring this up at the debate.

gophergirl on September 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Since I missed the last debate, has the NLRB/Boeing thing ever been mentioned?

Knucklehead on September 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM

no youtubage, no cool points.

ted c on September 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM

I prefer this version.

Left Coast Right Mind on September 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM

They could take self-incrimination off the table with conditional immunity and get the big criminals.

forest on September 20, 2011 at 5:00 PM

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM</blockquote

Best post I've read in quite a while. I'm still smiling.

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Since I missed the last debate, has the NLRB/Boeing thing ever been mentioned?

Knucklehead on September 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM

I think so, but only in passing. It was definitely brought up at the first debate which I believe was in South Carolina, so needless to say the crowd went nutz over the mention. The problem there is that the first GOP debate had only 5 participants and the biggest name on stage that night was T-Paw who ain’t even in the race anymore.

Doughboy on September 20, 2011 at 5:00 PM

a pardon is only 14 months away.

rob verdi on September 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM

I don’t think President Palin will pardon them

ConservativePartyNow on September 20, 2011 at 5:01 PM

“Some sophisticated and experienced private venture capital investors thought the answer was yes, and they invested over $1 billion in Solyndra — twice the support provided by the federal government.”

William Amos on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Sure thing, Nostrils. Now have them explain how they feel about the billion bucks they lost.

So what Nostrils is really saying is that Obama got suckered into taking on $500M of a failed stock by “some sophisticated and experienced private capital investors”.

Caveat Emptor.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:01 PM

I’m sure Eric Holder will be calling the CFO and CEO offering them pardons in exchange for donations to Obama 2012.

GarandFan on September 20, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Please FOX and GOP candidates – bring this up at the debate.

gophergirl on September 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Since I missed the last debate, has the NLRB/Boeing thing ever been mentioned?

Knucklehead on September 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM

No! We haven’t heard enough of Gardasil yet! More Gardasil! After all, Santorum hasn’t completely become irrelevant like Bachmann has yet.

It will be another Mitt and his two pets attacking and piling on Perry night.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Teflon wears out. It isn’t durable like steel or cast iron. Use it enough, pretty soon, stuff starts to stick to it.

a capella on September 20, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Except for Bill Clinton Teflon. Nothing sticks to that.

In fact, it took his own DNA sticking to a blue dress to get him into trouble.

Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Brian Harrison bumped into the president at a party last week.

He said, “Pardon me.”

Vashta.Nerada on September 20, 2011 at 5:03 PM

a pardon is only 14 months away.

rob verdi on September 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM

I don’t think President Palin will pardon them

ConservativePartyNow on September 20, 2011 at 5:01 PM

I think Rob was insinuating how Obama will pardon them before he leaves for Chicago after his first and only term.

Man, you think Clenis abused his pardon powers?
Rezko and Blago must be happy that they only have over a year to serve.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Solyndra execs to take the fifth at congressional hearings next week

So they are planning on showing up drunk at the hearings? :)

honsy on September 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM

No! We haven’t heard enough of Gardasil yet! More Gardasil! After all, Santorum hasn’t completely become irrelevant like Bachmann has yet. It will be another Mitt and his two pets attacking and piling on Perry night.

I think Santorum is the ony candidate that has his/her act together.

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Solyndra execs to take the fifth at congressional hearings next week

So they are planning on showing up drunk at the hearings? :)

honsy on September 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Since the tax payers are buying, why not?

forest on September 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM

“…maybe with a photo of Obama looking constipated overlaid while the audio plays.”

I only wish that “Fast and Furious” was getting this much attention…

Seven Percent Solution on September 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Except for Bill Clinton Teflon. Nothing sticks to that.

In fact, it took his own DNA sticking to a blue dress to get him into trouble.

Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Big difference with Bubba. See, Bubba knew he was caught and that there was no way out of it.

So he did the smart thing. He went through the full, heavy duty cycle on the dishwasher and came out shiny and new. Obama, on the other hand, pathologically believes that whatever he does is a gigantic breakthrough for mankind. We just don’t understand it yet. Because we’re stupid.

Bubba was way smarter than that. My god, he’s still married to Hillary, and gets all the chicks he wants. Life is good.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM

No! We haven’t heard enough of Gardasil yet! More Gardasil! After all, Santorum hasn’t completely become irrelevant like Bachmann has yet.

It will be another Mitt and his two pets attacking and piling on Perry night.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:02 PM

So I was drinking and dancing in Prague and missed a good one, huh?

Knucklehead on September 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Solyndra is guilty, and taking the 5th damns every other government subsidized green energy initiative by association.

canditaylor68 on September 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM

I think Santorum is the ony candidate that has his/her act together.

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM

I strongly disagree. I always liked Santorum but, just like Bachmann, I lose more and more respect in each debate. With a dozen or so debates left to go, they should pace themselves. Then again, they probably don’t suspect they are going to be around much longer. An “all in” strategy? Perhaps.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:11 PM

carbon_footprint,
yup, just hold out till after November. Either way they would get away with it.

rob verdi on September 20, 2011 at 5:11 PM

It’s OVER!

SolarGate!

Opposite Day on September 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

I think Rob was insinuating how Obama will pardon them before he leaves for Chicago after his first and only term.

Man, you think Clenis abused his pardon powers?
Rezko and Blago must be happy that they only have over a year to serve.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Not if he tries to do it in cuffs, walking into Leavenworth

ConservativePartyNow on September 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination” all stitched together, maybe with a photo of Obama looking constipated overlaid while the audio plays

While this looks bad (especially after the sudden reversal), I think we should refrain from assuming taking the 5th implies guilt. That’s a dangerous game and not what the 5th is meant for.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

So I was drinking and dancing in Prague and missed a good one, huh?

Knucklehead on September 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Noticed you were absent here.

I missed it live, but watched on DVR. It was gang up on Perry night except for Cain and Newt, who showed class rather than piling on a man who has admitted, several times, that he went about the issue the wrong way.
But then Bachmann tripled down, post debate, on the “Gardasil makes girls retarded” meme and lost all credibility as a candidate.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Not if he tries to do it in cuffs, walking into Leavenworth

ConservativePartyNow on September 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

As much as I would hate the office of the president to be tarnished like that, this image makes me feel peace.

The man has already tarnished the office for three years, tho.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:16 PM

So two Obama departments do a phony “investigation” while the House does two of its own. The phony Obama-run investigations will conclude “no wrongdoing” while the House committees are thwarted at every turn, eventually say it stinks to high heaven but the Obama Administration won’t turn over any documents, and the Obamamedia reports that “Obama has already been cleared of any wrongdoing in two thorough investigations” while the House is wasting taxpayers’ money on a “political witch hunt.”

This script is already written.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2011 at 5:16 PM

This script is already written.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Yes, most likely scenario.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:18 PM

SolyndraCon

faraway on September 20, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Good news is wasserman isnt going to be on committee anymore.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/sep/20/picket-wasserman-schultz-resigns-house-judiciary-c/

Wasserman Schultz resigns from House Judiciary Committee

William Amos on September 20, 2011 at 5:19 PM

The only way out of this for Obama is to prove that the execs defrauded the firm and the government loan overseers.

Taking the 5th is the smartest thing these guys could do.

It’s a two edged sword for The Won. It’ll be embarrasing to hear the litany of ‘on advice of counsel, i invoke my right against incriminating myself’. On the other hand, it adds no more fuel to the fire and gives them a chance to stall the investigations until past election day.

But then there is the Issa factor….

DrW on September 20, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Bankrupt solar maker Solyndra isn’t the only Bay Area company that got half a billion dollars in loans from the feds. Tesla Motors, the all-electric car manufacturer headquartered in Palo Alto, received $465 million in low-interest loans in 2009 from the Department of Energy to jumpstart production of electric cars.

William Amos on September 20, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Tesla’s cars are being manufactured in another country cuz it costs too much to do here as well…

lorien1973 on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I hope Waxman just goes for the jugular… Think of the campaign commercials!!

Khun Joe on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

While this looks bad (especially after the sudden reversal), I think we should refrain from assuming taking the 5th implies guilt. That’s a dangerous game and not what the 5th is meant for.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Lo, I understand the idea behind the 5th amendment, and agree totally.

But, I also know that if I’m on the witness stand, and I didn’t do anything wrong yet stand accused of something, you bet your ass I’m going to tell the truth, and not rely on my over-paid lawyer and the whim of a jury.

“Alibi? Damn straight I got one, and here it is”

vs.

“I ain’t saying nothing cuz I don’t have too”

So in effect, the only people who take the 5th are one of two things:

1. Stupid beyond belief
2. Guilty

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

SolyndraGate

DrW on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I think obama is about to see what a bus looks like from underneath

ConservativePartyNow on September 20, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Hey Carbon_footprint, who do you like then?
The crowd is not very exciting and Romney and Perry are both leading with a full blown Flip Flopping platform.

Newt is toast, Paul is a joke, Bacjman loks good but keeps stepping on it. Cain is/looks weak on Foreign policy.

I still think Santorum is the only true conservative that hasn’t shopt himself in the foot

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM

The only way out of this for Obama is to prove that the execs defrauded the firm and the government loan overseers.

That defense is gone with the admission of the DoE underlings that the company was on its ass and would be broke by Sept 2011.

Everyone knew what would happen. There’s no fraud to hide behind.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM

So in effect, the only people who take the 5th are one of two things:

1. Stupid beyond belief
2. Guilty

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Not so at all.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM

O/T:

Look who the TSA is hiring:

Miss. TSA official charged in fatal stabbing

Written by
Jerry Mitchell

One of the top federal Transportation Security Administration officials in the state of Mississippi has been arrested in connection with the killing of TSA worker Stacey Wright.

On Sunday, D’Iberville police found Wright, 43, stabbed to death in her apartment there.

Authorities said Ruben Orlando Benitez, 45, who serves as assistant federal security director for screening for the TSA in Mississippi, has been arrested.

Bond has been set for $3 million by Justice Court Judge Albert Fountain.

Now, don’t you feel especially secure with the TSA agents touching your junk? Last month, another one was arrested for possessing child porn!

honsy on September 20, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Broken promises from Obama Bundlers?

No Way!

Tim_CA on September 20, 2011 at 5:23 PM

I C they R Take’n advice from Tony Rezko

roflmmfao

donabernathy on September 20, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Didn’t you figure that when the FBI and Treasury got involved that Obama had moved C.Y.A.?


Knucklehead on September 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM

You can go here http://www.youtube.com/foxnews and vote on the questions that you think are most important by voting on the thumbs up or down.

Cindy Munford on September 20, 2011 at 5:25 PM

“Mr. President, what did you know & when did you know it????”

portlandon on September 20, 2011 at 5:25 PM

SolyndraGate

DrW on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I like “green-gate.” It reminds folks that the entire environmental movement is a fraud as old as time itself — as the saying goes, follow the money.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM

I can already see the YouTube montages — 20 or 30 iterations of “on the advice of counsel, I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination” all stitched together, maybe with a photo of Obama looking constipated overlaid while the audio plays. Chop chop, RNC ad team!

I want to see if they decline to confirm their names, on the advice of counsel.

You want to walk the walk of a gangster, you’d best be prepared to talk the talk of a gangster.

JohnGalt23 on September 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM

This is just the beginning of “Greengate”. We have pissed away tens of billions into the hands of BO’s cronies.

David in ATL on September 20, 2011 at 5:28 PM

I bet the fear of ATTAAAAAAAAAK WAAAAAAATCH got into them.

Lily on September 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM

I only wish that “Fast and Furious” was getting this much attention…

Seven Percent Solution on September 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM

C-BS keeps flogging it. Be patient.

Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM

If the CEO and CFO won’t testify I would at least hope the committee can determine why and how the decision was made by DOE to subordinate the taxpayers to private investors——even when evidence was mounting that business was not so good at Solyndra.

arnold ziffel on September 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM

My ideal candidate would be Palin, but since she is not running, as of yet, Perry gets my support. I like Cain, but as you said, he has the issue of not being a politician–which has strong and weak points. I like Newt, but not enthused about his baggage. I love how he speaks the truth to the MSM, tho. I like Romney as a person, but I do not trust him. He is the one who has truly flip flopped. Perry owns and admits to his mistakes. I like that about him.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Not so at all.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM

I’ve seen that video. Several things popped into mind right away.

1. The cop all but admits to multiple false arrests and prosecutions

2. In all of the cases represented, the suspect did not have an attorney present. Thats what the intent of the video is all about.

3. Every time I’ve been pulled over for speeding, I was.

4. Taking the 5th is just a dumb play if you are not guilty, especially at a Congressional hearing (which is just a tad bit different than the interview room at the graybar hotel).

Bottom line is this: They are free to invoke the 5th. I am free to assume they are guilty. I’ve been on juries before, and I know jurors use what ever information they want to form a verdict. That is what the judge tells you to do.

The judge never says “hey, the guy took the 5th amendment, so the only verdict you can bring is not guilty”.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM

$535 million in taxpayer dollars lost in a payola scandal but no one will speak about it.

Here we go again with another saga in payoffs from the White Mosque to its supporters.

madmonkphotog on September 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM

While this looks bad (especially after the sudden reversal), I think we should refrain from assuming taking the 5th implies guilt. That’s a dangerous game and not what the 5th is meant for.

Definitely. Moreover, no matter who you are or what you have or haven’t done, you’d be a fool to say anything at all under oath once the DoJ has decided it wants your scalp. Once you start talking, the slightest disagreement with a DoJ-friendly witness will land you in a perjury trial. The poster boy for that is Scooter Libby, sent to prison on nothing more than the word of Tim Russert.

Fabozz on September 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Perhaps the best of all the scandals is LightSquared. Just like ‘gate became the tag for future scandals after Watergate, I am hoping all future scandals will be tagged with ‘squared.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM

You want to walk the walk of a gangster, you’d best be prepared to talk the talk of a gangster.

JohnGalt23 on September 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM

“Uh…Don Corleone…yeah..I know him…we were in the olive oil business together….”

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:36 PM

SolyndraGate

DrW on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I like “green-gate.” It reminds folks that the entire environmental movement is a fraud as old as time itself — as the saying goes, follow the money.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM

With regard to the LightSquared scandal, I‘m a bit partial to the label I saw on another site: Lightworkergate.

Chip on September 20, 2011 at 5:39 PM

I guess we’ll need to add Solyndra’s lawyers to the “jobs created” column, eh?

jondun5 on September 20, 2011 at 5:42 PM

No! We haven’t heard enough of Gardasil yet! More Gardasil! After all, Santorum hasn’t completely become irrelevant like Bachmann has yet.

It will be another Mitt and his two pets attacking and piling on Perry night.

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Well, Santorum is trying to not allow Bachmann to out attack Perry:-)
Santorum: Perry ‘ignores reality’
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63945.html

Seems like Bachmann is taking Rollins advice, LOL
She restates her Gardasil! attack and then goes into immigration:-)
Oh, I know she steals some of Palin’s statements, but now she’s stealing her glasses? ROFL
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/09/19/bachmann_says_vaccine_retardation_claim_not_hers/?rss_id=Boston.com+–+Top+political+stories

Oh, speaking of Palin, she is going to be on Hannity tonight.
Sorry for hijacking the thread but had to get this in somewhere:-)

bluefox on September 20, 2011 at 5:42 PM

If it appears that someone needs to be charged with lying under oath to congress, do you know who we have to rely on to issue the warrant, process the warrant, and prosecute?

Not going to happen.

slickwillie2001 on September 20, 2011 at 5:43 PM

The judge never says “hey, the guy took the 5th amendment, so the only verdict you can bring is not guilty”.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM

That’s not the intent, either. If the guy invokes the fifth, he can’t talk. That is all. You can, of course, make up your mind based upon the other evidence presented.

I’m just saying I don’t like the game of “he took the 5th, so lets assume guilt”

If the DoJ is involved now (which I believe it is), the only smart play is to take the 5th. He’d be dumb to say anything that could be used against him later (as discussed in the video). Even an innocent omission is something they could come after you for.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM

SolyndraGate

DrW on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I like “green-gate.” It reminds folks that the entire environmental movement is a fraud as old as time itself — as the saying goes, follow the money.

Rational Thought on September 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Solyndra Green Gate?

It’s people! Solyndra Green is PEOPLE!

Chuck Schick on September 20, 2011 at 5:51 PM

but it’s the CHICAGA way……can’t I just give my friends hundreds of millions of dollars for nothing and why do you have to question me about it???

SDarchitect on September 20, 2011 at 5:54 PM

I hope Waxman just goes for the jugular… Think of the campaign commercials!!

Khun Joe on September 20, 2011 at 5:20 PM

“Good evening. My name is Henry Vaxman. I do not drink… vine.”

Mary in LA on September 20, 2011 at 5:55 PM

carbon_footprint on September 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM

I agree with all that you have said and Perry is probably going to be our guy. I though Palin would be devisive if she got in but at this point i would enjoy watching her eat The One’s lunch.

She has a lot of baggage but with that a lot of common sense.

A few more speaches form Obama and Barney Fife could win in 2012.

The judge never says “hey, the guy took the 5th amendment, so the only verdict you can bring is not guilty”.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Can you wait until one of these Solyndra guys cuts a deal with the House Judiciary Committee? That will be AWESOME!!!!

SayNo2-O on September 20, 2011 at 5:56 PM

I can already see the YouTube montages — 20 or 30 iterations of “on the advice of counsel, I assert my Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination” all stitched together, maybe with a photo of Obama looking constipated overlaid while the audio plays.

Perhaps…but for now, this will do just fine.

Jorge Bonilla on September 20, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Solyndra omertà.

Jim Treacher on September 20, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Barack Obama: It all depends on what the meaning of “is” is

katablog.com on September 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM

If the DoJ is involved now (which I believe it is), the only smart play is to take the 5th. He’d be dumb to say anything that could be used against him later (as discussed in the video). Even an innocent omission is something they could come after you for.

lorien1973 on September 20, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Certainly, but taking the 5th does not make the investigation go away. In fact, if anything, it increases the degree to which you will be investigated by other means.

So if I’m an under-staffer at Solyndra who knows what happened, and had nothing to do with it, and I get called into a hearing (or a courtroom) and refuse to answer questions, am I to think that once they stop asking questions I’m free to about my life as if the episode is over?

Not on your life. They will dig and dig until they find something, and it doesn’t have to be related to Solyndra. Suppose I claimed a charitable donation on my tax return, and they ‘know’ I don’t have a reciept.

The deal would be to face a felony tax evasion charge, or cut a deal by blabbing about something I had no hand in to begin with.

This is called compelling someone to testify. Morals, principals, and my right not to answer questions vs. a year in jail?

My choice is clear.

BobMbx on September 20, 2011 at 6:10 PM

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