WaPo: Obama going full populist with new budget proposals

posted at 9:25 am on September 19, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Looks like Barack Obama’s first term as President has ended for all intents and purposes, and the Obama 2012 campaign has begun in earnest instead, according to the Washington Post.  Obama’s new proposals on the federal deficit and jobs have gone all-in on taxes while leaving the biggest drivers of federal deficits mainly untouched.  In fact, despite repeatedly admitting this year that entitlement programs have to change, Obama has offered nothing more in his deficit-reduction package than rosy predictions of the impact of fighting waste, fraud, and abuse:

Combined with his call this month for $450 billion in new stimulus, the proposal represents a more populist approach to confronting the nation’s economic travails than the compromises he advocated earlier this summer.

Obama will propose new taxes on the wealthy, a special new tax for millionaires, and eliminating or scaling back a variety of loopholes and deductions, officials say. About half of the tax savings would come from the expiration next year of the George W. Bush administration tax cuts for the wealthy.

But the president won’t call for any changes in Social Security, officials say, and is seeking less-aggressive changes to Medicare and Medicaid than previously considered. He will propose $320 billion in health-care savings but will not include raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67, officials said.

Any reduction in Medicare benefits would not begin until 2017, they said. Other cuts in domestic spending would bring the total spending savings to $580 billion. About $1 trillion in savings is also expected from winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Obama will pledge to veto any cut in entitlements that does not also include increases in tax revenue.

The supposed savings of $1 trillion from “winding down the wars” assumes that we would have been fighting in Afghanistan a decade from now, which everyone recognizes as politically impossible now.  Harry Reid tried proposing the same thing as “budget reduction” and drew derisive laughter as a result.  Some of the supposed savings would also have to come from fixed costs that won’t go away when troops return to the US, either, which makes the notion that we’ll see anything like $1 trillion in savings from this part of Obama’s plan entirely delusional.

The rest of this plan looks like a campaign document, and a dishonest one at that.  Obama wants higher taxes now in exchange for minimal reductions in Medicare six years from now, a deal that not even the most naive and trusting Republican would make.  It’s on the edge of being insulting, but Obama gleefully leaps over the edge in crossing from governance to campaigning.  He knows this has no chance of making it out of the Republican House, and that’s the point — so much so that David Frum blasts it as a “stunt”:

On one side, the GOP, pledged to the Ryan plan, the most radical redefinition of government from the right since 1964.

On the other side, the president, offering the sharpest left turn since Teddy Kennedy’s challenge to Jimmy Carter in 1980.

The president’s new brainwave is a stunt that threatens the country’s long-term prosperity and growth. The lapse of the Bush tax cuts plus a new millionaire tax bracket thrusts us back to the high rates of the 1970s. The proposed new five-bracket structure opens new temptations to economically wasteful tax arbitrage.

And remember: all this comes atop the tax increases already embedded in the Affordable Care Act (taxes that, I won’t refrain from pointing out could have been negotiated away back in 2010).

Frum doesn’t like the Paul Ryan plan to reform entitlements and government spending either, but does note that Obama seems intent on fighting Paul Ryan from as far left as possible, rather than proposing a plan that could peel some Republicans off in support.  It’s designed specifically to avoid an agreement, which will not just mean that Obama has given up on doing anything useful for the next fourteen months.  It will also undermine the efforts in Congress to find ways to trim $1.5 trillion in future spending growth, mandated as part of the debt-ceiling deal last month.  The new proposal threatens to derail Congress entirely until after the 2012 election.

Obama must believe that this puts him in a better political position than where he’s at now, but it’s difficult to see how.  Pandering to the populist, class-warfare Left in his base might win him some momentary cheers from that direction, but the sudden shift to tax hikes and class warfare won’t encourage capital to enter any risk-taking behavior.  After years of talking about entitlement reform, Obama’s switch to tax hikes without significant spending cuts is out of step with the American electorate, as the 2010 midterms amply demonstrated.  Republicans couldn’t do a better job of painting Obama and Democrats as a tax-and-spend party than the latest salvos from the Oval Office in this supposed deficit reduction package and Porkulus II.

Obama seems to forget that Ted Kennedy lost to Jimmy Carter in the 1980 primaries — and that Carter lost to Ronald Reagan in the general election, and lost big.  Unleashing his inner Carter is likely to produce a similar outcome, and this time around Democrats will lose a lot more ground on Capitol Hill than they did 31 years ago while Watergate’s echoes bounced between the two ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.

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Badger40 on September 19, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Obama will propose new taxes on the wealthy, a special new tax for millionaires, and eliminating or scaling back a variety of loopholes and deductions, officials say. About half of the tax savings would come from the expiration next year of the George W. Bush administration tax cuts for the wealthy.

Knowing that the House will never pass ANY of these tax increases, can we know say the Obama is totally unserious about this jobs bill?

dirtseller on September 19, 2011 at 9:28 AM

Is McCain gonna reach across the aisle for this one?

Akzed on September 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM

He doing the Full Monty hoping the plebs come to his rescue. It is all he has, playing the victim to ‘victims’. There is nothing else to run on.

Limerick on September 19, 2011 at 9:31 AM

It is important that Obama just keeps proposing his policies…the more he does, the less relevant he becomes.
Class warfare is so 90’s…

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM

A free-range chicken in every pot, a Chevy Volt in every garage, and see that rich dude down the street with the fancy clothes, well I am going to make HIM and guys like him pay for it all!

Bishop on September 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Knowing that the House will never pass ANY of these tax increases, can we know now say the that Obama is totally unserious about this jobs bill?

(Don’t use the keyboard too early in the morning)

dirtseller on September 19, 2011 at 9:34 AM

the millionaire tax is now considered a guiding prinicple Ed…

cmsinaz on September 19, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Will this fool’s cultist supporters ever have an epiphany or a spontaneous rejuvenation of dormant brain cells and realize that he is lost in a thick fog without a compass or a map?

rplat on September 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Bishop on September 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Exactly.

kingsjester on September 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM

The stock market is dropping like a lead balloon this morning. It’s going to be a long campaign.

bopbottle on September 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Is McCain gonna reach across the aisle for this one?

Akzed on September 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Doubtful. I don’t see any Republican reaching across the aisle on this. They were united on Obamacare and Porkulus(save for the Maine sisters), so with 2012 fast approaching, I don’t think any Republican is interested in committing career suicide.

Doughboy on September 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM

It’s 100% set-up for demagoguery. A total waste of time otherwise.

Despicable.

forest on September 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM

The ideologues are in control in the White House and are still incredibly confident in their own abilities to run an Alinsky-style campaign, with the assistance of the big media. If their strategerie is falling apart a year from now and it’s looking more and more likely that not just Obama, but the entire Democratic platform, is going to get crushed in November, the panic, finger-pointing and anger at not just conservatives but the voting public in general is going to be something to behold.

jon1979 on September 19, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Under Obama’s proposal, muni bond interest would become taxable. This is sheer class warfare madness with collateral damage to states, and local governments.

WannabeAnglican on September 19, 2011 at 9:36 AM

So let’s get real. Yes, Obama could do better. But we could do a lot worse….New York Times. Bob Keller

And that is what we are facing…they actually think that Obama is the better solution…they think that others could or will do worse…

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Demanding huge tax increases while the economy is cratering has got to go into the Guiness book of records for stupid ideas.

Employers coast to coast are moving away just as fast as they can and this clown is driving out anyone who was still on the fence.

dogsoldier on September 19, 2011 at 9:37 AM

A page right out of Hugo Chavez’s playbook.

How very communist of you, Obozo.

KMC1 on September 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM

PBHO has begun the entrenching, soon enough he will lay the tanglefoot and claymores and then….the racial cards will be layed out. With people from both parties starting to push for him to check out in 2012, PBHO will seek help from the only people he has left, his unwavering racial brethren. Balloons will then go up.

Bishop on September 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Unhappy members of the Congressional Black Caucus “probably would be marching on the White House” if Obama were not president, according to CBC Chairman Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.).

“If [former President] Bill Clinton had been in the White House and had failed to address this problem, we probably would be marching on the White House,” Cleaver told “The Miami Herald” in comments published Sunday. “There is a less-volatile reaction in the CBC because nobody wants to do anything that would empower the people who hate the president.”…

“We’re supportive of the president, but we getting tired, y’all,” Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) said in August. “We want to give [Obama] every opportunity, but our people are hurting. The unemployment is unconscionable. We don’t know what the strategy is.”

Rather than targeting Obama’s leadership, many CBC members aimed their fire at the Tea Party movement over the summer’s congressional recess…

Who are the racists?
Basically saying that if a white person made the same decisions…
The fools don’t get it, they don’t remember it was their own “black skin” that sold them into slavery…and now their “own” has taken their jobs, and future…it ain’t the skin, it’s what is between their ears…

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 9:41 AM

It’s on the edge of being insulting,

Ed, you are far too kind. It’s way over the edge of insulting. Suppose this plan actually came to fruition. It means Dear Liar’s successor would get saddled with “he cut Medicare” unlike the previous guy.

It used to be that presidents would make fantasy proposals that would at least shield their successor. This guy isn’t even doing that.

rbj on September 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM

The president’s new brainwave is a stunt that threatens the country’s long-term prosperity and growth.

When you’ve lost David Frum…

Who’s next?

Kathleen Parker? (oops)
David Brooks? (oops)
Peggy Noonan? (oops)
Cokie Roberts?

pain train on September 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM

He’s toast.

I cannot see him recovering from these numbers at this point. Goodbye, Obama.

Key West Reader on September 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Almost treasonous.

publiuspen on September 19, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Christopher Buckley? (oops)

Any candy-ass RINO’s left? (my apologies to AP in advance)

pain train on September 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM

He’s implementing a scorched earth policy to provoke a destructive class warfare conflict.
BTW, the DJI average is -200 after 15 minutes.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM

So let’s get real. Yes, Obama could do better. But we could do a lot worse….New York Times. Bob Keller

Only if we had someone named “Adolph”, “Hugo”, “Joseph”, “Fidel” or “Benito” . . . and even then the difference would be questionable.

rplat on September 19, 2011 at 9:50 AM

As I wrote this morning, he’s spent.

beatcanvas on September 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM

If you take one step back and look, it becomes clear that this “plan” Obama is “unveiling” is, among other things, reactionary.

Where’s all that radical Hope and Change he promised? Where are the serious discussions about fundamentally altering the tax structure – flat taxes, national sales taxes, etc.?

Demonize the rich and soak them. Take ’em out. What allegedly a WaPo reporter once said cruelly about Mitt Romney’s father is much better applied to Obama:

Deep down he’s shallow.

Drained Brain on September 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Who, other than the 25 Frum Forum followers, cares in the least what David Frum thinks about anything?

Canadians who can’t play hockey or aren’t hot chicks are totally useless (e.g. Dave Rywall, David Frum and David Brooks). In Canada, if you want to ensure your son will be a loser, name him David.

bw222 on September 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM

It should be made clear that IF…. by some hook or CROOK, Obama wins again, he will with 100% certainty be impeached and removed from office for a LONG list of crimes and unconstitutional actions.

Make it fact… and see what they do.

They stick with him and destroy their party and their featherbedded positions.

golfmann on September 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM

Good to see this act of desperation. He can’t hide his track record. People are pretty wary of his promises by now. You go, Barry!

a capella on September 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM

He’s toast.

I cannot see him recovering from these numbers at this point. Goodbye, Obama.

Key West Reader on September 19, 2011 at 9:42 am

Can you imagine what those numbers will look like after another solid year of his class warfare shinola?

Naturally Curly on September 19, 2011 at 10:01 AM

the lsm is in full spin mode pushing this this am…

cmsinaz on September 19, 2011 at 10:02 AM

I think he wants the rioting in the streets.

It’ll be so much easier to govern under martial law.

BobMbx on September 19, 2011 at 10:04 AM

It’ll be so much easier to govern under martial law.
BobMbx on September 19, 2011 at 10:04 AM

Maybe in the big cities, out here where I live not so much.

I didn’t memorize every line from “Red Dawn” for my health.

Bishop on September 19, 2011 at 10:08 AM

2008 Hope N Change = 2011 Hope N Choke.

Dr Evil on September 19, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Maybe in the big cities, out here where I live not so much.

I didn’t memorize every line from “Red Dawn” for my health.

Bishop on September 19, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Wolverines!

Dr Evil on September 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Deep inhale – smell that? There’s nothing like the smell of fascism in the morning/

Dr Evil on September 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM

He’s started putting his mouth to the microphone and screaming into it with a deranged look on his face at his events also known as campaign rallies.

It has to be seen to be believed. He’s scaring the kiddies but luckily the msms is censoring most of it. I’ve never seen Chavez or most dictators act this out of control. Most of them know better.

We always said it wouldn’t be a pretty sight when this narcissist felt trapped. It could become a demolition of historic proportions.

No Niks on September 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Wolverines!
Dr Evil on September 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Shhhhhhhhhh….you trying to get me arrested?

Besides, I’m a Minnesotan: Gophers!

Bishop on September 19, 2011 at 10:15 AM

So, let’s get this straight. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid spend over three trillion in the past three years, (not counting his phony half trillion jobs bill), and he won’t touch SS and will address Medicare in 2017???? Now that’s what I call “leading from the rear”.

Rovin on September 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM

What, no cartoon?

John the Libertarian on September 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Pandering to the populist, class-warfare Left in his base might win him some momentary cheers from that direction, but the sudden shift to tax hikes and class warfare won’t encourage capital to enter any risk-taking behavior.

Obama is prepared to knowingly and intentionally damage to the economy and the country in his effort for re-election.

Yes, that is the language of the criminal law. What he is prepared to do may not be technically criminal but it is in clear violation of his oath of office. His massive ego and narcissism no doubt lead him to believe that whatever is good for him is good for the country, but three years of what is good for Obama and the Democrats should be enough for everyone else to reach the opposite conclusion.

Obama has one year left. How much damage he and his Democrat allies will do before we can rid ourselves of them in 2012 is anyone’s guess, but as for now the minimum appears to be plunging us into a double-dip recession. His strategy is transparent: Create chaos, despair, and division, and blame it on his opponents.

novaculus on September 19, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Look at pretty much any African country and that’s what O’Dinglenuts has in mind for the USA. Zimbabwe is his fave, but even South Africa, with its truly horrific crime rates and crumbling economy will do…

mr.blacksheep on September 19, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Who, other than the 25 Frum Forum followers, cares in the least what David Frum thinks about anything?

Canadians who can’t play hockey or aren’t hot chicks are totally useless (e.g. Dave Rywall, David Frum and David Brooks). In Canada, if you want to ensure your son will be a loser, name him David.

bw222 on September 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM

That was awesome. Reminds me of an earlier thread talking about weird names. A poster said he hated the name “Josh” because every son of a goofy soccer mom will have to spend his life proving he is not a beta male.

arnold ziffel on September 19, 2011 at 10:22 AM

On one side, the GOP, pledged to the Ryan plan, the most radical redefinition of government from the right since 1964.

On the other side, the president, offering the sharpest left turn since Teddy Kennedy’s challenge to Jimmy Carter in 1980.

And on the third side, the Third-Way Ostrich Party led by David Frum, who are wetting their pants and crying “please, can’t we just leave government and entitlements the way they are, you radicals?!”

Right, Dave. $15 trillion in debt and escalating like a lumber yard fire. Why on earth do Ryan and his “radical” friends want to change anything?

Jaibones on September 19, 2011 at 10:25 AM

bopbottle on September 19, 2011 at 9:35 AM

It is going to be long miserable road to sanity.

antisocial on September 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Barry’s bubble is bursting.

GarandFan on September 19, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Obama supporters don’t do math (or economics), and will fall for this nonsense. Can he get enough people to fall for this? It’s all he’s got. He has to save his base. I am still very nervous. I am amazed at how many people let their emotions dictate their thoughts.

It should be obvious to all that this man is a Marxist thug, but as I said, there are way too many “feelers” who want desperately to believe that the Magic Negro can make it all go away. (that ought to get me on Attack Watch.com.)

Oh, his other weapon is to destroy the reputation of whatever Republican he runs against.

xrayiiis on September 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM

Buffett = the Oracle for Obama (or was it “from Omaha”?).

gullxn on September 19, 2011 at 11:07 AM

arnold ziffel on September 19, 2011 at 10:22 AM

bw222 on September 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Joshua and David are strong, masculine Hebrew names. Plenty in the IDF to make up for the losers who bear them. I just feel sorry for any kid named Barack in 2008-2009.

thebrokenrattle on September 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM

It’s all starting to fall apart….the way it inevitably does when you’re a fraud and a phony (as Rush puts it “the most inexperienced man in any room he enters).

Not only is li’l bammie clueless, but he’s surrounded himself with inexperienced lib-tards who share both his lack of real word (read “private sector”) experience, and his demented (read “socialist”) world view.

This petulant little narcissist will never give an inch….he’ll continue to fall in the polls, and the ’12 elections will be a disaster for what’s left of the Dems….it doesn’t take a genius to see it.

Tim_CA on September 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Why show a partial cartoon in the title if you don’t include it in the text of the post????? ARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!

E9RET on September 19, 2011 at 11:15 AM

I find it silly that they name a millionaire tax after a billionaire. That’s how they roll–claim to go after millionaires, then go after anyone earning 200k. Claim to go after anyone earning 200k, then go after everyone who stills pays income tax. Bait, switch, rinse, repeat.

Christien on September 19, 2011 at 11:36 AM

“Unleashing his inner Carter. . . “

Great phrase, Ed! Though it’s been breaking out pretty regularly the last few years.

And behind that tired hound, pawing at the ground is his inner Marx. /Mr Lynn

MrLynn on September 19, 2011 at 11:44 AM

From – Politico, News Letter:

“President Barack Obama on Monday made an impassioned plea for what he described as his balanced plan to reduce the deficit, arguing that his proposal for a so-called “Buffett rule,” which would prohibit millionaires from paying a lower tax rate than middle-class Americans, is not “class warfare” as Republicans have charged.

“All I’m saying is that those who have done well, including me, should pay their fair share in taxes,” Obama said, adding that he would veto any legislation “that puts all the burden on closing the deficit on ordinary Americans.” ”
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Obama is absolutely desperate. He’s whining, pleading and begging for passage of a “plan” that’s not published and is nothing more than a ploy for the redistribution of wealth. He is without a doubt the epitome of incompetence and ineptness.

rplat on September 19, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Yep, create a new tax on the people that use their money to create jobs and build businesses, burn up half the new tax revenue through government corruption and waste, and give the remaining half to the people that use their money to create jobs and build businesses. Brilliant.

slickwillie2001 on September 19, 2011 at 12:00 PM

Brace yourself for some blasphemy: Maybe the GOP should consider some sort of “millionaire tax” as a campaign move.

We’ve repeatedly heard that you can confiscate 100% of the income of people making over $1M and you won’t make a dent in the deficit or debt because there simply aren’t enough of them. By the same token, you won’t make much of a dent in investment or hiring if you put a relatively small tax surcharge on such income.

What if the GOP proposed something like a 10% surcharge on short-term capital gains above $1M, a 5% surcharge on long-term capital gains above $1M, a cap on non-taxable bond income of $250K, etc.? I’m picking those numbers out of thin air, and the precise numbers aren’t important. The point is, if you really limited a new tax to taxable income in excess of $1M, it would probably have damn little effect on the economy but would totally undermine O’s talking point that the GOP exists to protect millionaires. And you could tailor it to do minimum harm (e.g., favoring long-term over short-term capital gains, or taxing “carried interest” from hedge funds, or exempting home/farm sales, etc., etc.). Again, the point is to have some sort of GOP plan that “asks the millionaires to pay their fair share” more as a talking point than a policy. It would be a counter-stunt.

Is it fair to those folks? Not necessarily (although I really don’t know what “carried interest” is or why Warren Buffett escapes taxes on it). But I’m not suggesting a 50% surcharge, just some window-dressing. And the GOP can reverse it as part of an over-all tax reform package when they have control of the House, Senate and Presidency in 2013. So it might be in effect for just one year. Would I prefer a flat tax? Yes. Would I prefer huge entitlement reforms? Yes. But that’s not happening with a Democrat Senate and President.

From an economic point of view, there may even be some justifications: As an example, tax-exempt government bonds are a nice safe way for many of us to balance our portfolios with a low risk investnment, and a place to shift an increasing amount of our investment as we approach and enter retirement. But some people (e.g., John Kerry) largely escape taxes by keeping tens or hundreds of millions in such bonds. In such cases, the tax exemption (as opposed to the low risk) is distorting the market and favoring such bonds over equities. This does not help growth. To the extent the GOP appears to be arguing for smart policy as opposed to being “the party of no,” that’s all the better.

Most important: We’re fighting a skillful demagogue. He’s trying to maneuver the GOP into opposing something that has populist appeal. The only way he gets re-elected is to make the election about class warfare. If the GOP has to spend all of its time opposing taxes on “millionaires,” O might just get re-elected.

Again, I’m not generally advocating increased taxes in a recession. The point is that we’re in a knife fight with a skilled opponent. We don’t need to out-debate him on market economics, we need to disarm him. If we can do that with a tax increase of, say, 0.00001%, who would say no?

Here endeth the blasphemy: Let the attacks begin.

SwampYankee on September 19, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Yep, create a new tax on the people that use their money to create jobs and build businesses, burn up half the new tax revenue through government corruption and waste, and give the remaining half to the people that use their money to create jobs and build businesses. Brilliant.

slickwillie2001 on September 19, 2011 at 12:00 PM

Conveniently this new “revenue” against the “millionaires” doesn’t kick in until 2013. Just like all the other horrific things Obama has managed to shove down our throats.There in lies the beauty of his sinister plan…

sandee on September 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM

It is important that Obama just keeps proposing his policies…the more he does, the less relevant he becomes.
Class warfare is so 90′s…

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM

…Actually, it’s so 30’s

landlines on September 19, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Obama has one year left. How much damage he and his Democrat allies will do before we can rid ourselves of them in 2012 is anyone’s guess dependent upon the Congress, who holds the purse strings, and how much spine, if any, they possess.

novaculus on September 19, 2011 at 10:21 AM

FIFY

Freelancer on September 19, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Truly, the plan is brilliant.

If you drew a Venn diagram of the intersection between wealth targeted by this plan, and wealth used by businesses to expand employment, you would draw one circle.

Take more money out of that slice of the GDP pie which creates jobs, and expect that slice of the pie to create more jobs. What could possibly go wrong?

Businesses will downsize yet again, production will fall, consumer confidence will spiral downward, spending will NOT be stimulated, and the brink upon which we are currently teetering will collapse, sending the U.S. plummeting toward Greece.

Freelancer on September 19, 2011 at 2:07 PM

OT: Chicago elected a Dhimmicrat tyrant (Rahmbo) as mayor, now they have to suffer the consequences.

FlatlanderByTheLake on September 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Unleashing his inner Carter is likely to produce a similar outcome, and this time around Democrats will lose a lot more ground on Capitol Hill than they did 31 years ago

31 years ago, America was a place that looked at the welfare state as a shameful thing. Now it’s a badge that must be reckoned with at the expense of being branded racist, heartless, headless, etc. To that point, Ed, what percentage of voting Americans paid no federal income tax 31 years ago compared with the majority plus of dependocrats today? What percent of voting Americans were on some form of public assistance 31 years ago compared to our Obammunist welfare state nightmare? 44 MILLION AMERICANS ON FOOD STAMPS. The dhimmicrats have bricked their path to oligarchical nirvana with state educated drones fed sugar water flickers of resentment in their fake-trophy fluffed sheetrock stalls, all meant to ready them for the day when the simmering victimocracy boils over. Of course Zero goes full monty populist, that’s where the action is.

Western_Civ on September 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM

The new proposal threatens to derail Congress entirely until after the 2012 election.

This could result in a freaking slaughter of the Democrats in 2012.

disa on September 19, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Obama wants higher taxes now in exchange for minimal reductions in Medicare six years from now, a deal that not even the most naive and trusting Republican would make.

Are you absolutely sure about that Ed? After all, you are talking the party of McCain, Grahamnesty, and even to a certain extent Boehner.

/wouldn’t rule anything out right now

AZfederalist on September 19, 2011 at 10:17 PM