Palin’s smarter than people think, says — Ralph Nader

posted at 3:25 pm on September 19, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Almost two weeks ago, I noted that the New York Times seemed shocked, shocked that Sarah Palin had suddenly turned into an anti-establishment conservative populist in a Labor Day weekend speech in Iowa.  The Gray Lady wasn’t the only media outlet who missed, well, almost all of Palin’s political career.  Salon’s Justin Elliott was so stunned by the speech that he turned to Ralph Nader to analyze the sudden new direction taken by Palin.  Nader pronounced himself impressed:

We decided to call the longtime left crusader about a speech Palin gave in Iowa earlier this month, one which seemed to mark the transformation of Palin from a standard-issue movement conservative to something more independent and more reformist. And Nader told us he liked what he heard.

“I think she’s a lot smarter than most people credit her,” says Nader. “Judging by her comments, she is squarely in the camp of conservative populism, opposed to corporatism and its corporate state.”

Palin delivered the speech in question in Indianola, Iowa, on Sept. 3. As Anand Giridharadas later observed in the Times, the media responded primarily by “ignoring the ideas she unfurled and dwelling almost entirely on the will-she-won’t-she question of her presidential ambitions.”

What were the “new” ideas again?

But there was also some refreshingly new material. She described a “permanent political class,” one that is hypocritical and devoted to personally profiting off of government. (“Seven of the 10 wealthiest counties are suburbs of Washington, D.C.,” she noted.) She spoke of “the collusion of big government and big business and big finance.” And she took aim at both parties for governing in service of their big campaign contributors.

This sounded to us like Nader. And Nader agreed.

Er, new? Only if one’s attention to Palin was restricted to the relative costs of tanning beds and her 2008 campaign wardrobe.  Palin has not just talked about fighting the establishment, she has done it throughout her political career.  She fought corruption in the Alaska GOP, and she defeated one of the state’s political dynasties, the Murkowskis, to win her term as governor.  Palin did that while talking constantly about breaking the bonds between big business and big government.

Bear in mind that Palin drew an avalanche of media attention in the summer and fall of 2008, with dozens of reporters descending on Wasilla looking for background on Palin.  Actually, “background” is too nice a word for it; they were looking for dirt.  More than three years after getting named to the GOP ticket in 2008, the national media is just now getting around to noticing that Palin isn’t just some rube, but is a grassroots activist with years of both rhetoric and accomplishment in fighting the establishment.  So much for a vibrant, objective national media, eh?

And just like when the NYT suddenly discovered Palin’s anti-establishment cred, I suspect that the newfound respect from Nader and Salon doesn’t have much to do with surprise as it does with trying to take a few indirect shots at the Republicans running for President.  If Palin does toss her hat in the ring, don’t expect this late media infatuation with Palin as a smart crusader to last very long.

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Fish in a barrel.

SouthernGent on September 19, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Sarah Palin’s already endured the medias hate, so for them to turn on her, would in fact be nothing novel, it would actually be returning to normal, can’t say the same about the others…

Sharr on September 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM

..unleash the torrent. Another 1,000-comment post.

The War Planner on September 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM

The media may take to liking Palin only to the extent she attacks the GOP.

hawksruleva on September 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Consistent communist and Palestine-lover supports Palin.

Run from him as fast as you can.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/sarah-palin-glen-rice-rumors-cast-politician-in-new-light-091511

I never saw this posted on the Hot Air. I apologize if it was.

Another Palin convert apparently.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Because if there’s any endorsement a conservative needs, it’s that of the wild-eyed Ralph Nader.

Who, by the way, is also known for calling Obama an “Uncle Tom for Wall Street.”

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Libtards: always a day late and a dollar short of new revenue

skanter on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Palin has not just talked about fighting the establishment, she has done it throughout her political career. She fought corruption in the Alaska GOP, and she defeated one of the state’s political dynasties, the Murkowskis, to win her term as governor. Palin did that while talking constantly about breaking the bonds between big business and big government.

Give reasonable discussion a chance here.

She was in office how long? And then she left the job before her term was up.

Seriously, people need to address this without the very familiar stories about the lawsuits and legal costs. She left the job, that’s the bottom line, and had a short career as governor of Alaska.

As governor, she might have figured a way to complete her term in office and resolve or protect herself and the state from the “legal costs” she claims she left to avoid accruing. But, instead, she left the job.

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Explain why we need to ignore the facts, please. (i.e., lawsuits and legal costs)

kingsjester on September 19, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Well I am suspicious of Gov. Palin now. She is earning positive feedback from some of the filthiest folks. Not good.

antisocial on September 19, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

You’re as predictable as the old media.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Well, heck, these are the same folks who thought Obama was the “second coming”. I don’t think Palin would want these people to change their opinion of her.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

How exactly is the act of leaving the job more important than the reasons for it?

Count to 10 on September 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Spot on hawksrule

cmsinaz on September 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

HA definition of insanity – Asking the same question over and over again because you can’t or won’t accept the answer.

Fallon on September 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Well I am suspicious of Gov. Palin now. She is earning positive feedback from some of the filthiest folks. Not good.

antisocial on September 19, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Don’t hammer her, focus on the commie that Nader was, is, and will be.

If, however, the Palin camp sees this as a +, send them to the mirrors because they will shatter.

He is a full-fledged communist, who hates Israel and favors Palestinian thugs. She should distance herself from him, pronto.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Palin has always been battling corruption and corporatism. I find her far preferable to all these other garden-variety conservatives. She doesn’t just want the GOP to win so it can then access the same old ‘gravy train,’ she wants to bust up the whole crony system, due to waste and how it dis-favors the people in preference for entrenched interests.

idesign on September 19, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Well I am suspicious of Gov. Palin now. She is earning positive feedback from some of the filthiest folks. Not good.

antisocial on September 19, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Good grief.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:38 PM

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Simply vile.

cs89 on September 19, 2011 at 3:39 PM

I think there is a chance that Palin could surprise EVERYONE and leverage a third-party-triangulation type of strategy into the white house.

In a rebuke to Krugman, Amity Shlaes digs a little deeper into our history and thinks we are closer to the 1890s when BOTH parties were guilty of letting crony-capitalism run amok.

If there is to be a TRUE rebuke of the establishment – which is what is NEEDED – it is going to get very interesting. With the establishment still wet-creaming about Christie, they are NOT going to be of ANY help. Sarah Palin will be the ONLY person capable of pulling it off

singlemalt 18 on September 19, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Simply vile.

cs89 on September 19, 2011 at 3:39 PM

I never read the guy anyway but this one I just had to read to the finish.

The fact that he has a job astounds me.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Wait… Nader is still alive?

upinak on September 19, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Another Palin convert apparently.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

You forgot the sarc tag.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

You forgot the sarc tag.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

OOPS – I did

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Thank God the scales are finally falling from their eyes.

John the Libertarian on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Your Palin hate is quite disgusting….

idesign on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

How exactly is the act of leaving the job more important than the reasons for it?

Count to 10 on September 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Not that I agree with it, but it is easier for the public to hear “she quit” and internalize that then it is for the public to hear the rational for why she resigned and understand and agree with it (and of course, there will be those who think it was the wrong decision for her to resign).

So, I think it is a political difficulty for her. Not one that is impossible to overcome, but a difficulty nontheless if she gets in the race.

Monkeytoe on September 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Your Palin hate is quite disgusting….

idesign on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

EXCUSE ME?

I posted an article for discussion and forgot the sarc tag. Pardon me.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM

The media may take to liking Palin only to the extent she attacks the GOP.

hawksruleva on September 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM

This.

Expect the media to find all sorts of new respect for Palin, once it’s apparent she’s 1.) not running and 2.) eager to trash Perry and/or Romney.

Vyce on September 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Wait… Nader is still alive?

upinak on September 19, 2011 at 3:40 PM

LOL. He actually died 3 years ago. This is a automaton version of him stolen from Disneyland.

portlandon on September 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Hmmm. I wonder if blowback against the Joe McGinniss narrative (and that vile Mike Tyson interview) is at last leading some people to give Palin a second look?

Aitch748 on September 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Wait… Nader is still alive?

upinak on September 19, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Last seen driving his Chevy Corvair down Highway 101 in California.

Knucklehead on September 19, 2011 at 3:43 PM

And, about what Nader’s up to (and so also the DNC), is the same tactic they deployed leading up to the 2008 election: the GOP potential candidate/s is/are the same as the DNC’s hero, there’s no difference, their goals are the same, their politics are the same, “we’re your friend, my friend.”

Remember the whole McCain claims that there was little difference between his views on all the issues and Hillary Clinton’s? Then Palin joined McCain and echoed that tactic, her views same as McCain’s on all the issues…

Which means she was in agreement with Hillary Clinton, by deduction of reason there.

I simply don’t trust Palin, that’s what it comes down to, and she seems far more a routine politician than she does a darling and people obsessed with her seem to have lost their ability to reason. That’s a summation of my take on Palin, after reading the thousands of attack comments by Palin supporters on this site and elsewhere. I can’t say that’s Palin herself but it reflects very badly on who she is and who is pushing her on the public.

I just don’t trust the “movement,” let me put it that way. I’d like to instead elect a tried and true CEO to the Presidency and am willing to avoid personality-fervor appeals for the ability to put someone in office instead who can actually do an excellent job and have real results to show for it and often.

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

singlemalt 18 on September 19, 2011 at 3:39 PM

If Palin runs third-party, for any reason whatsoever, she, and all who claim to follow her, will be exiled from the conservative movement for a decade. Of this I have no doubt.

If she doesn’t want to play by the rules, she doesn’t deserve the support of the team.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Your Palin hate is quite disgusting….

idesign on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

EXCUSE ME?

I posted an article for discussion and forgot the sarc tag. Pardon me.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Consider the source.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Thank God the scales are finally falling from their eyes.

John the Libertarian on September 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM

He was, is, will be a communist, for whom the most leftie dem. is never left enough. SP should distance herself from him, pronto.

She is a big Israel adherent, he is the antithesis.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

She already said that she wouldn’t do that.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

This is why they fear her.

Sekhmet on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Consider the source.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

True.

Seriously though – who knew forgetting the “/” would get me branded as a Palin “hater”.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Seriously, people need to address this without the very familiar stories about the lawsuits and legal costs. She left the job, that’s the bottom line, and had a short career as governor of Alaska.

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

People need to address her resignation while ignoring its context??? What, you want us to just make something up now?

Aitch748 on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

How exactly is the act of leaving the job more important than the reasons for it?

Count to 10 on September 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Um, since always?

Especially when the reasons for leaving include a desire to have a reality TV show.

Hollowpoint on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Why do you and others like you insist on ignoring Palin’s long history of public service? Why do you camp on one issue that has a valid explanation (for reasonable people) as if it’s her only government or executive experience? How can one possibly have a reasonable discussion if you want to exclude the crux of it ~ i.e., FACTS ~ because it’s inconvenient to your flimsy argument? Go ahead and beat that dead horse, Lourdes…

greeneyedconservative on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

And as I stated in headlines (and have previously mentioned in comments here), I think she’s running, and doing so as a “conservative populist.”

To elaborate a bit: The Tea Party movement is a grassroots movement of “the people” seeking connection with the messages of the founding of this nation: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. It has Libertarian overtones, a generally Conservative foundation (“I’ll take care of me & mine, but get high taxes & burdensome regulation out of the way!”), and appeal in “flyover country.”

Palin’s history and message strikes the right note to capitalize on this movement- her “crony capitalism” criticisms IMO are designed to reinforce distrust of elites in BOTH parties who helped get us in the mess we find ourselves today.

Whatever you call them, “Independents,” “Reagan Democrats,” etc. I think there’s a swath of ordinary folks she can appeal to & build a coalition with the GOP base to develop a groundswell of support.

(Ducking now for incoming remarks that I’m a “cultist,” unrealistic, etc.)

cs89 on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

WOMB-SHIFTER SCANDAL: A Daily Caller writer calls out Tucker Carlson and the blogger who posted race-based filth from Mike Tyson directed and Sarah Palin.

Mutnodjmet on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

I just don’t trust the “movement,” let me put it that way. I’d like to instead elect a tried and true CEO to the Presidency and am willing to avoid personality-fervor appeals for the ability to put someone in office instead who can actually do an excellent job and have real results to show for it and often.

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

A full-fledged RINO, who will continue apace what’s goind on, just not so fast.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

singlemalt 18 on September 19, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Sarah Palin is not the person to win a third party bid for president.

She would do nothing but fracture the Republican party and give the WH back to Obama.

No. She could not pull it off.

Not that the idea isn’t an intriguing one as a hypothetical.

catmman on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

The media may take to liking Palin only to the extent she attacks the GOP.

hawksruleva on September 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM

This.

Expect the media to find all sorts of new respect for Palin, once it’s apparent she’s 1.) not running and 2.) eager to trash Perry and/or Romney.

Vyce on September 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM

GOP needs some bruising.

the_nile on September 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Palin is spreading an important message.

Throw out the ruling Crony Capitalist Club, of which the Dems, Bush, Mitt and Rick are lifetime members.

idesign on September 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM

I just don’t trust the “movement,” let me put it that way. I’d like to instead elect a tried and true CEO to the Presidency and am willing to avoid personality-fervor appeals for the ability to put someone in office instead who can actually do an excellent job and have real results to show for it and often.

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

And what “real” results are you expecting?

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Ed that was a perfect takedown.

If Palin does toss her hat in the ring, don’t expect this late media infatuation with Palin as a smart crusader to last very long.

The over/under is 2 shakes of a lamb’s tail.

Ted Torgerson on September 19, 2011 at 3:48 PM

True.

Seriously though – who knew forgetting the “/” would get me branded as a Palin “hater”.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Your mistake was posting anything that was not pro-Palin.

She may be tough enough to take it, but for some people, it is too much to tolerate and must be attacked vociferously. Up to, and including, any one who posted, or commented on the post.

Take it as a badge of courage.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

If she doesn’t want to play by the rules, she doesn’t deserve the support of the team.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

So exactly what “team” support has she had so far?

More importantly, WHO’S RULES should she or any of us be so concerned aobut???

singlemalt 18 on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

I hate that picture of Palin, it always looks like she is feeling her lymph nodes to see if she is sick or checking her heart rate.

jeffn21 on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Seriously though – who knew forgetting the “/” would get me branded as a Palin “hater”.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

It’s a forgiveable mistake. There are those here that would post that link and relish every word in it.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

She has left fewer jobs than Romney has…
She is smart, so smart that she can’t decide whether to run as the most powerful person in the world or not…guess it depends on the salmon run…

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Not that the idea isn’t an intriguing one as a hypothetical.

catmman on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

She already said that she wouldn’t do it.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Is the book out yet that levels the Glenn-Rice-Tryst allegations? Who is the guy who wrote the book? Is this 100% libel/slander or is it rooted in some fact?

The fact that there is even a discussion about this sort of thing makes me want to puke. Libs love to do this sort of crap. They bring down the level of debate into territory that only the vile of people dare tread.

That is of course if it’s purely a case of a wack-job journalist doubling up on absurd. If it’s real, it deserves to see the light of day.

However, crap like

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/sarah-palin-glen-rice-rumors-cast-politician-in-new-light-091511

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

make’s my skin crawl. Douche nozzle.

preallocated on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Your mistake was posting anything that was not pro-Palin.

She may be tough enough to take it, but for some people, it is too much to tolerate and must be attacked vociferously. Up to, and including, any one who posted, or commented on the post.

Take it as a badge of courage.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Your mistake is not knowing when to stop.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

If she doesn’t want to play by the rules, she doesn’t deserve the support of the team.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

Meh. If the Republicans insiders don’t want to play by the rules, they doesn’t deserve the support of the team. It goes both ways.

I don’t think Palin needs to step outside the GOP. She can win with an R after her name if the DC insiders don’t try to knee cap her, like they did Goldwater.

Fallon on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

I never thought I’d say this, but given the current field, she’s looking pretty darn electable.

John Deaux on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

WOMB-SHIFTER SCANDAL: A Daily Caller writer calls out Tucker Carlson and the blogger who posted race-based filth from Mike Tyson directed and Sarah Palin.

Mutnodjmet on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Saw that….

Looks like Carlson will be on Greta tonight to grovel for forgiveness.

Tucker is a great example of a beltway RINO.

idesign on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

If she doesn’t want to play by the rules, she doesn’t deserve the support of the team.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:44 PM

What “rules” pray tell has she broken?

tencole on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

It’s a forgiveable mistake. There are those here that would post that link and relish every word in it.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

That’s what posting and trying to work at the same time gets me – in trouble LOL

Honestly like I said above – the guy disgusts me on all levels.

Thanks for not jumping down my throat.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Seriously though – who knew forgetting the “/” would get me branded as a Palin “hater”.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

You shall be staked out in the tundra and have polar bear cubs devour you…or listen to the excuses of palinistas as to why Sarah has not decided to run…your choice. (personally take the cubs)

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Whatever you call them, “Independents,” “Reagan Democrats,” etc. I think there’s a swath of ordinary folks she can appeal to & build a coalition with the GOP base to develop a groundswell of support.

(Ducking now for incoming remarks that I’m a “cultist,” unrealistic, etc.)

cs89 on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

It’s possible, but the polls don’t support that she can accomplish it at this point. Her numbers are terrible with dems and with independents and she is not even doing that great in the GOP. I’m not saying she can’t change her numbers, but if her current strategy is to snipe from teh sidelines and gain followers, it isn’t working. She needs to fish or cut bait. I know that her strongest supporters believe she is pulling a rope-a-dope and will jump in at the last possible moment to a groundswell of support.

I don’t see that happening. I see her losing time and opportunity the longer she stays out (if she intends to run) and her “will she / won’t she” game may back-fire by creating animosity against her in the GOP base.

Monkeytoe on September 19, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:50 PM

I know, hence my use of the term “hypothetical”.

It can be tossed around for discussion, but as a serious consideration its a non-starter.

catmman on September 19, 2011 at 3:52 PM

As governor, she might have figured a way to complete her term in office and resolve or protect herself and the state from the “legal costs” she claims she left to avoid accruing. But, instead, she left the job.

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Tell us oh mighty know it all, how “might” she have accomplished such an easy task?

Vince on September 19, 2011 at 3:53 PM

I meant “most vile” …

And, its not just SP that gets this treatment. has interracial vampire orgies in his basement, buys coke by the brick, kills hookers in his spare time, or is most likely gay. Take your pick.

preallocated on September 19, 2011 at 3:53 PM

True.

Seriously though – who knew forgetting the “/” would get me branded as a Palin “hater”.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

I’m a Palinista but yeah, idesign does have a hair trigger at times. I’ve never noticed you ragging on Palin so the thought never entered my mind. :)

Aitch748 on September 19, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Your mistake is not knowing when to stop.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

No mistake. There are some here that are so “Palin or no one”, they will stop at nothing to destroy the other republican candidates.

Until they figure out the world doesn’t revolve around palin, they will not be able to participate civilly in any political discourse.

They are doing more to damage Palin than the candidates, or posters, they attack

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:54 PM

As governor, she might have figured a way to complete her term in office and resolve or protect herself and the state from the “legal costs” she claims she left to avoid accruing. But, instead, she left the job.

Lourdes on September 19, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Your criticism in disingenuous. Can you imagine the outcry that would have occurred if Palin, while governor, attempted to have Alaskan law changed to limit claims against Alaskan governors or to have the legal fees for such claims paid for by the state?

GaltBlvnAtty on September 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Especially when the reasons for leaving include a desire to have a reality TV show.

Hollowpoint on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Seriously?!?

I will not insult you by pretending that you actually believe what you just said.
…WF Buckley

tencole on September 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM

What “rules” pray tell has she broken?

tencole on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Going third-party is breaking a rule. It says implicitly that you’ve alienated both parties and simply want to satisfy your vanity. And candidates who do that deserve to lose and lose big.

See Charlie Crist and Ralph Nader.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Steven Bannon had Joe McGinniss, Amy Siskind And Scott Conroy on his KABC Radio program last night and they came to the same conclusion that Palin has set the ground work and can run on the Crony Capitalism and use it in both the primary and the general.

KBird on September 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Your mistake was posting anything that was not pro-Palin.

She may be tough enough to take it, but for some people, it is too much to tolerate and must be attacked vociferously. Up to, and including, any one who posted, or commented on the post.

Take it as a badge of courage.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

It was a vile piece.

the_nile on September 19, 2011 at 3:57 PM

When she announces that she isn’t going to run, is she going to return all the PAC money that was solicited while teasing a possible run that she knew wouldn’t happen?

Hollowpoint on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

What “rules” pray tell has she broken?

tencole on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Going third-party is breaking a rule. It says implicitly that you’ve alienated both parties and simply want to satisfy your vanity. And candidates who do that deserve to lose and lose big.

See Charlie Crist and Ralph Nader.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Palin hasn’t gone third-party and has explicitly ruled out doing so. So that’s one rule she HASN’T broken and most likely WON’T break.

Aitch748 on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

KingGold: And Murkowski? I don’t see her being shunned by the GOP after losing her primary.

Scott H on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

catmman on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

catmman on September 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM

I’m not saying it would be an actual third-party run, but the use of a triangulation strategy in order to achieve the same results as the Gipper did capturing the “Reagan Democrats”, would become a significantly more viable strategy if the lefties are going to challenge obomba; the appearance of an alternative would be easier for many of the unwashed to comprehend.

singlemalt 18 on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Going third-party is breaking a rule. It says implicitly that you’ve alienated both parties and simply want to satisfy your vanity. And candidates who do that deserve to lose and lose big.

See Charlie Crist and Ralph Nader.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM

When has Palin ever said she would run third party? NEVER that’s when. You really shouldn’t make stuff up just to give yourself a new opportunity to bash Palin. It’s unbecoming a King.

greeneyedconservative on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

He is a full-fledged communist, who hates Israel and favors Palestinian thugs. She should distance herself from him, pronto.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2011 at 3:37 PM

I must have missed the part where Palin embrassed Nader.

heshtesh on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

No mistake. There are some here that are so “Palin or no one”, they will stop at nothing to destroy the other republican candidates.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:54 PM

And there are some here that are so “anyone but Palin” they will stop at nothing to destroy her at all costs.

If Palin enters the race I’m going to remember all the comments like yours.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

The Left when it runs out of lies, smears, snark, and can no longer think of anything to make up, and after exhausting every single wrong answer are sometimes, though rarely, left with the truth.

Which then astounds them, no end, because they don’t have a shred of decency or an ounce of common sense amongst them.

ajacksonian on September 19, 2011 at 3:59 PM

When she announces that she isn’t going to run, is she going to return all the PAC money that was solicited while teasing a possible run that she knew wouldn’t happen?

Hollowpoint on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

She will donate to a Kleenex fund for the Nistas. Right now they use them for one reason and later for their tears.

CW on September 19, 2011 at 3:59 PM

True.

Seriously though – who knew forgetting the “/” would get me branded as a Palin “hater”.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM

I used your link and wondered if you were being sarcastic or mean and nasty. I was tempted to respond to that infantile, a-hole but felt it was best to ignore him.

Vince on September 19, 2011 at 3:59 PM

She is smart, so smart that she can’t decide whether to run as the most powerful person in the world or not…guess it depends on the salmon run…

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

It looks like her “indecision” destroys her opponents.

You could call it tactic…

the_nile on September 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Steven Bannon had Joe McGinniss, Amy Siskind And Scott Conroy on his KABC Radio program last night and they came to the same conclusion that Palin has set the ground work and can run on the Crony Capitalism and use it in both the primary and the general.

KBird on September 19, 2011 at 3:56 PM

I heard the interview…

It was outstanding..:)

idesign on September 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM

When she announces that she isn’t going to run, is she going to return all the PAC money that was solicited while teasing a possible run that she knew wouldn’t happen?

Hollowpoint on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

How much does she owe you?

faraway on September 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM

I never thought I’d say this, but given the current field, she’s looking pretty darn electable.

John Deaux on September 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Bingo !!!

singlemalt 18 on September 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Going third-party is breaking a rule. It says implicitly that you’ve alienated both parties and simply want to satisfy your vanity. And candidates who do that deserve to lose and lose big.

See Charlie Crist and Ralph Nader.

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Sarah has NEVER said that she’d go third party and you know it….she has said several times that 3rd party is not an option.

BTW….you got a copy of that “rulebook”…I seemed to have lost mine.

tencole on September 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Ain’t you just a classy “thing”.

heshtesh on September 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM

I used your link and wondered if you were being sarcastic or mean and nasty. I was tempted to respond to that infantile, a-hole but felt it was best to ignore him.

Vince on September 19, 2011 at 3:59 PM

I’m going to quit while I’m extremely behind and never post another / link again.

I’ll just go back to pro Perry posts. I don’t get in trouble with those :)

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Ain’t you just a classy “thing”.

heshtesh on September 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM

For the 100th time – I forgot the sarc tag.

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM

She is smart, so smart that she can’t decide whether to run as the most powerful person in the world or not…guess it depends on the salmon run…

right2bright on September 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM

As the candidates continue to beat each other up, Sarah’s “indecision” looks brilliant.

tencole on September 19, 2011 at 4:02 PM

Aitch748 on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

You do realize I was shooting down the idiocy from the previous poster who said “Palin’s the only one who can pull off a third-party run,” and not asserting that she’ll actually do this?

Personally, I don’t think she’s going to run. In fact, I think she’s signed on to this unholy Romney-Bachmann alliance to put the Mittster in the White House and make Palin Energy Secretary. After all, she’s smart enough that she’d never sign on to Bachmann’s conspiracy theory nonsense about HPV – right?

KingGold on September 19, 2011 at 4:02 PM

No mistake. There are some here that are so “Palin or no one”, they will stop at nothing to destroy the other republican candidates.

Until they figure out the world doesn’t revolve around palin, they will not be able to participate civilly in any political discourse.

They are doing more to damage Palin than the candidates, or posters, they attack

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 3:54 PM

And then there are a-holes like you who have been attacking palin since she was picked as a VP candidate.

the_nile on September 19, 2011 at 4:02 PM

gophergirl on September 19, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Ain’t you just a classy “thing”.

heshtesh on September 19, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Gophergirl wasn’t agreeing with the, um, “sentiment” expressed in that, um, “article.”

Aitch748 on September 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM

tencole: Palin’s indecision does look brilliant… as a political move. Most of her supporters, though, would prefer a ‘straight shooter’ rather than a brilliant politician.

I think she is bleeding more support than she’s gaining.

Scott H on September 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM

And there are some here that are so “anyone but Palin” they will stop at nothing to destroy her at all costs.

Who cares about them? They are as nuts as the rabid Palin supporters. Give them the scorn they deserve.

If Palin enters the race I’m going to remember all the comments like yours.

darwin on September 19, 2011 at 3:58 PM

I don’t care, you are yappin’ at the wrong oak on this. I was all for Palin until the rabid Palin fans disgusted me with the attacks on the other candidates.

cozmo on September 19, 2011 at 4:04 PM

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