ChiTrib editor: Say, maybe it’s time for Obama to withdraw from 2012

posted at 2:00 pm on September 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

It’s one thing for John Fund, Allahpundit, or me to speculate on whether Barack Obama will bother running for a second term.  It’s another when one of the editors of a home-town newspaper tells a President to pull out.  Stephen Chapman of the Chicago Tribune’s editorial board writes in today’s paper that it’s time for the battered champ to hang ‘em up:

I checked the Constitution, and he is under no compulsion to run for re-election. He can scrap the campaign, bag the fundraising calls and never watch another Republican debate as long as he’s willing to vacate the premises by Jan. 20, 2013.

That might be the sensible thing to do. It’s hard for a president to win a second term when unemployment is painfully high. If the economy were in full rebound mode, Obama might win anyway. But it isn’t, and it may fall into a second recession — in which case voters will decide his middle name is Hoover, not Hussein. Why not leave of his own volition instead of waiting to get the ax?

It’s not as though there is much enticement to stick around. Presidents who win re-election have generally found, wrote John Fortier and Norman Ornstein in their 2007 book, “Second-Term Blues,” that “their second terms did not measure up to their first.”

Well, there’s a scary thought.

So what would happen if Obama voluntarily stepped aside?  Chapman has the same thought that occurred to me last month:

The ideal candidate would be a figure of stature and ability who can’t be blamed for the economy. That person should not be a member of Congress, since it has an even lower approval rating than the president’s.

It would also help to be conspicuously associated with prosperity. Given Obama’s reputation for being too quick to compromise, a reputation for toughness would be an asset.

As it happens, there is someone at hand who fits this description: Hillary Clinton. Her husband presided over a boom, she’s been busy deposing dictators instead of destroying jobs, and she’s never been accused of being a pushover.

This presumes that Obama would go gently into that single-term good night, the first President who declined to run for another term since LBJ.  If he did, it still wouldn’t solve all of the Democrats’ problems.  The “deposing dictators” is a cute line, but she was part of the decision process that ended up refusing to submit the Libyan adventure for Congressional approval.  And the dictator hasn’t entirely disappeared yet, either, and we’re still not sure what will end up taking his place.

Even if Obama appeared to retire on his own a la LBJ, there would be a significant number of Democrats who would believe he’d been pushed — and pushed out by the Clintons and their clique.  It’s no secret that Obama wanted to keep the Clintons at as much arms-length as he possibly could.  He has not included Bill Clinton very often in official efforts even though Obama could clearly benefit from Clinton’s skills, and on the one memorable occasion where Obama called on the former President, Clinton ended up taking over the stage.  Hillary would appeal to the voters Obama is losing — suburban families in the Rust Belt and Midwest — but a palace coup in the Democratic Party could split the hard-Left progressives and would certainly poison the relationship between the Democratic Party and black voters.

And if Obama won’t go on his own, then there is no play for Hillary.  If she tried running a last-minute primary challenge now, all of the above comes into play — and she doesn’t have the time to build an organization that can compete with Obama’s in the field now.  (Neither does anyone else, either.)  After all, Hillary had the Clinton machine ready to deliver her to her 2008 coronation when Obama out-organized and out-boxed her, usurping her spot at the top of the ticket, and as an incumbent only has more resources on which to call this time around.

I’ve said repeatedly that I think a withdrawal by Obama is a low-probability event at best, and I still believe it to be a long shot.  However, when the home-town papers are starting to make the call for retirement, it’s maybe not quite as much of a long shot as before.

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How can she remain with him and still claim to have shred of dignity?

darwin-t on September 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM

I guess you’d have to ask her.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Do Alinskyites quit? So much change to implement is so little time. No way he’d drop out. The Left isn’t rioting across the country yet. That’s when Obama’s “mission accomplished” moment will be realized.

Blue Collar Todd on September 18, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Unfortunately, Chapman’s article is a blog. It appears it did not run in the print version of the paper. Yet it is a good start if he manages to survive his executive editor’s wrath.

You never know, this may have been planned to test the waters of public opinion. It may be wishful thinking, but maybe the Trib hierarchy approved it.

Corky Boyd on September 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Oval Office”

29Victor on September 18, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Sign of Progress

Pass This Bill!

Translation: Bend Over. Here it comes. Again.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:17 PM

When you’ve lost Chicago…

Ace ODale on September 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM

I don’t feel sorry for Hillary when I think of how she tried to trash every woman who accused Bubba of sexual harassment. She was starting to trash Monica as a flaky bimbo with fabricated story until the blue dress came out with the presidential sample on it. She and Bubba have run over everyone who got in their way.

Why their famous oppo research failed them with Wright, I don’t know. They could have discovered him and Rezko if they wanted. They didn’t take Obama seriously and msicalculated the delegate vote (CA was not a winner-take-all state).

They deserved to lose. Tough nuts.

Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Well this adds to my theory that Obama will pull an LBJ and not run. BTW did someone report this to the proper authorities?

Rndguy on September 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM

ObamaCorn Wall Street Takeover is a complete Fap.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:21 PM

Hi Ed;

Here’s the type of withdrawal speech that I think the narcissist Obama could give – it blames others and makes him appear noble:

“My fellow Americans:

The problems we face now here at home and across the globe are in a critical stage. Partisan politics have no place in times like this. And neither do personal agendas. As it has in the past, the entire world is looking to the United States of America to lead humanity back from the brink of global war and darkness and into the fields of light, peace, and prosperity. American presidents have always borne this responsibility with humility and courage. And by drawing inspiration from those who have served before me, I have tried to meet these challenges with the same determination and optimism. But these are different times.

Heightened partisanship and a non-stop 24 hour news cycle dominated by “gotcha” yellow journalism has made statesmanship more difficult than ever – despite the world needing it more than ever. Partisan posturing has become especially pernicious recently, as we have entered an election cycle. Now, the bipartisan compromises and non-partisan strategies we most need are all but impossible. I see only one way to erase the partisan divide which is preventing the effective actions our nation – and the world – are crying out for.

And that is why tonight I am announcing that I will not seek a second term.

By removing myself from the partisan political equation I hope to elevate the debate, remove the biggest stumbling block to national unity, and bring the full force of this great and united nation back together again so that together we can meet the challenges we now face. I could do no less. Personal ambition is meaningless compared to advancing the cause of liberty and prosperity and to protecting the American Dream.

It has been my honor to lead the Democrat party the last three years. I pass that responsibility to others. From this day forward, I have only one job. It is not personal or political. It transcends politics. It is purely humanitarian. I am sure with this new non-political and non-personal approach members of Congress and I will rise to the occasion – in unified action, as the Congress and past presidents have always done since our nation’s founding.

Now, we have one job to do – together: Bind the nation’s wounds and roll up our sleeves. I look forward to it with all my heart, with what wisdom God has given me, and with the courage I get from your support and prayers.

Thank You. And God Bless America.”

reliapundit on September 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

They deserved to lose. Tough nuts.

Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM

As much as I love Rush, he had a hand in Obama’s winning. Operation Chaos.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Now, we have one job to do – together: Bind the nation’s wounds and roll up our sleeves. I look forward to it with all my heart, with what wisdom God has given me, and with the courage I get from your support and prayers.

Thank You. And God Bless America.”

reliapundit on September 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Hmmmmmmmm

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:25 PM

reliapundit on September 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

This will not work for two reasons:

1. He has been a divider throughout, never fostered unity.

2. He has never been the president of all the people, not for a second.

May he stay until Jan. 20th, 2013.

Schadenfreude on September 18, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Why their famous oppo research failed them with Wright, I don’t know.
Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM

They’d never gone up against a true Alinskyite. They’d gotten fat and spoiled feasting off pathetic republicans. If they’d gone nuclear with him they probably figured he had as much if not more to go nuclear on them. And they were insiders enough not to want to bring down the entire house.

rrpjr on September 18, 2011 at 3:36 PM

The Chicago Tribune writer is setting the stage for Obama to lose and go to Africa to live with all the splendor. Maybe Michelle found a home for the family on her expensive trip to Africa where she couldn’t say enough good things about being there. Can you imagine how she will hate America after Obama loses?

Obama wants to be King! What Country in Africa needs a King?

Think he is too arrogant to quit and definitely would not quit to have Hillary run.

PhiKapMom on September 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Just remember: videotapes being withheld by the Los Angeles Times can be released; stories about Vera Baker can suddenly start appearing; newspapers might suddenly compete for Pulitzers with story after story detailing suspicious connections between Obama and shady investments or characters, like Lightsquared or Rezko/Northern Trust/whomever; there might be investigations into Acorn or voter fraud in which the President played a direct role. There could be stories about his Columbia transcript, or how exactly he got into Harvard Law School, and who paid the tuition bill.

If the press turns on Obama, he will rue the day. All the stories that are normally written about politicians over a period of his entire career have been set aside in his case, since he has been the media darling for these six or seven years. But those stories haven’t ceased to exist. They can still be published, and-worse- they might be published essentially all at once.

MTF on September 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Why their famous oppo research failed them with Wright, I don’t know. They could have discovered him and Rezko if they wanted. They didn’t take Obama seriously and msicalculated the delegate vote (CA was not a winner-take-all state).

They deserved to lose. Tough nuts.

Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM

From Zsa Zsa’s site, circa 2008:

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, in a wide-ranging interview today with Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporters and editors, said she would have left her church if her pastor made the sort of inflammatory remarks Sen. Barack Obama’s former pastor made.

“He would not have been my pastor,” Clinton said. “You don’t choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend.”

Obama’s lead in national polls had slipped since clips of the retired Rev. Jeremiah Wright began being played on national news programs, but he has since rebounded, according to a Gallup poll. The uproar prompted Obama to give a major speech on race in America last week.

His campaign accused Clinton of exploiting the controversy.

“After originally refusing to play politics with this issue, it’s disappointing to see Hillary Clinton’s campaign sink to this low in a transparent effort to distract attention away from the story she made up about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia. The truth is, Barack Obama has already spoken out against his pastor’s offensive comments and addressed the issue of race in America with a deeply personal and uncommonly honest speech. The American people deserve better than tired political games that do nothing to solve the larger challenges facing this country,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

-snip-

The Clinton campaign had refrained from getting involved in the Wright controversy, but Clinton herself, responding to a question this morning, denounced what she said was “hate speech.”

“You know, I spoke out against Don Imus (who was fired from his radio and television shows after making racially insensitive remarks), saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that,” Clinton said. “I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving.”

Clinton: Wright ‘would not have been my pastor’ – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_558930.html#ixzz1YKqWwQj3

Del Dolemonte on September 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM

I don’t know why everyone believes Shrillery would have such a cake walk. She is pretty much the same candidate Obama was: no private sector experience, far-left resume, HillaryCare, has never made a payroll, has all the same friends/advisers that he does. Add to that the fact that her tenure at State has been a historical disaster: Russia rising, China rising, the “Arab spring” that is actually the spread of sharia across the Arab world — woman are slaves where they were once free, Jews/Christians are being ethnically cleansed, etc. She’ll not get through a campaign without that being revealed in its full horror.

The Obamabots would be hysterical, and she would have to slice and dice their boy in order to run a decent campaign. No matter how Barry resigns, once the shock wears off the GOP candidates will start hitting Hillary with being “the female Obama” or something like that. “Don’t make the same mistake twice, America!” will be the campaign theme, and she’ll be on defense the entire time — and forced to throw Barry under the bus in a most brutal fashion.

I don’t see this being a viable choice for her, despite what is undoubtedly her insatiable desire to be president. The fact is, she wanted to be president in the same vein — or a more far left vein — as Barry.

Rational Thought on September 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Well, he could always change his name..

tinkerthinker on September 18, 2011 at 3:41 PM

A malignant narcissist will never admit anything bad is his fault. Obambi is in it until the moving vans pull up to the White House to inform him that it is over.

Mallard T. Drake on September 18, 2011 at 3:41 PM

I was discussing this post with my husband just a few minutes ago. In his view, there is no way the Democrats will ask Obama to step down and not run for reelection in 2012 because the optics in the black community would be nothing short of devastating. The talk would be a bunch of white Democrats “lynched,” in the political sense, a black president when the times got tough. The black vote would be non-existent for the new Democrat running in Obama’s place, and the GOP would win the presidency easily, assuming there’s no third party candidate diverting votes away from the Republican nominee.

I think he may be right.

Kim Priestap on September 18, 2011 at 3:43 PM

This will be the most profitable campaign ever… Look for Axelrod to keep the machine raising money, maybe not as much as 2008, but for them not to spend it on the campaign, but skim it into foreign accounts… Sort of like The Producers

phreshone on September 18, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Now the alphabet soup of regulatory agencies and the IRS can exact their revenge on the Tribune just to make sure everyone else stays in line. Has Obama studied how Putin keeps the Russian media in line?

KW64 on September 18, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM

That post needs to be a full page ad-buy in the NYT.

Above the fold.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:48 PM

A malignant narcissist will never admit anything bad is his fault. Obambi is in it until the moving vans pull up to the White House to inform him that it is over.

Mallard T. Drake on September 18, 2011 at 3:41 PM

He’ll still be issuing edicts from the retirement home.

John the Libertarian on September 18, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Two words: Chicago Machine.

If Ayers/Daley/Soros tells Bammy to step down, then he will…if he knows what’s good for him.

Ace ODale on September 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM

That would be a great start, it might even be enough.

scalleywag on September 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Maybe that could be the Dems persuader. ” Bail or jail”.

katy the mean old lady on September 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM

A malignant narcissist will never admit anything bad is his fault. Obambi is in it until the moving vans pull up to the White House to inform him that it is over.

Mallard T. Drake on September 18, 2011 at 3:41 PM

…And even then, he may have to be forcibly evicted. Obama has already shown that he will not respect laws he doesn’t like.

landlines on September 18, 2011 at 3:54 PM

If the press turns on Obama, he will rue the day. All the stories that are normally written about politicians over a period of his entire career have been set aside in his case, since he has been the media darling for these six or seven years. But those stories haven’t ceased to exist. They can still be published, and-worse- they might be published essentially all at once.

MTF on September 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Absolutely. They are first, last, and foremost, hyenas. They are smelling blood.
No way in hell would the Trib have published that a year ago.

katy the mean old lady on September 18, 2011 at 3:55 PM

I’m on the lowdown.

ernesto on September 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

FIFY ;)

honsy on September 18, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Oh, please. This is all being done to make Barack look like a sympathetic (instead of pathetic) figure.

SouthernGent on September 18, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Now if they can only get Barry’s EGO to agree.

GarandFan on September 18, 2011 at 4:02 PM

I was discussing this post with my husband just a few minutes ago. In his view, there is no way the Democrats will ask Obama to step down and not run for reelection in 2012 because the optics in the black community would be nothing short of devastating. The talk would be a bunch of white Democrats “lynched,” in the political sense, a black president when the times got tough. The black vote would be non-existent for the new Democrat running in Obama’s place, and the GOP would win the presidency easily, assuming there’s no third party candidate diverting votes away from the Republican nominee.

I think he may be right.

Kim Priestap on September 18, 2011 at 3:43 PM

I think the conventional wisdom is that should such a scenario occur, Obama will play along happily in blaming his resignation on Republican racism, his inability to work with Republicans in Congress because he is black, the rise of the racist Tea Party movement which will not stop until it destroys him, and the tragic reality that America wasn’t ready for a black president because the Republican Party and political conservatives are entirely racist.

And then he’ll throw his support behind Shrillery, saying something to the effect of “I just hope those Republicans and Tea Baggers don’t hate women as much as they hate blacks.”

And then the media will cry “Shame! Shame! Shame, America! You ran a good man from office because you’re racist!” And newspapers all over the world will run headlines saying “America wasn’t ready for Obama. She can’t cast off her racism. Will American racism ever end?”

I think that’s the general imagery such folks are working with. Obama didn’t fail as a president, America (and mostly conservative America) failed Obama by making it impossible for him to govern because he is black. And, sadly, in many quarters it would work.

Rational Thought on September 18, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Campaign cash has to go back to the Debbie Wasserman Schultz, head of the DNC.

/That’ll be fun to watch. The money.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

I thought I heard somewhere the candidate gets to keep that dough. Didn’t Hillary run through something like this back in ’02?

/receipts will be produced.

NoamSayin on September 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Hillary won’t run. She made it quite clear that she’d only run in 2008 if there was substantial support. Obama and the media turned that against her by saying she was presumptuous about getting the Presidency. Obama stole her platform (because Hillary was friends with Obama and had an open door policy which Obama used to have advance knowledge of her platform before declaring himself where Hillary found out about it on the news) and he changed a few things here and there. There is no way that Hillary will ever run again. Her own party betrayed her, but she’s not about to give up on it. She understands how the game is played.

Even if Obama were to throw his support behind Hillary, she still won’t run. Besides, Obama wants the title, not the job. No way in hell is he ever going to step aside.

MrX on September 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM

As much as I love Rush, he had a hand in Obama’s winning. Operation Chaos.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Exactly! No Hillary! Conservative bloggers who are pushing for Chaos Part Deux, please stop!

Connie on September 18, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Mr. Precedent, your administration is in a quagmire. What is your exit plan?

phreshone on September 18, 2011 at 2:19 PM

See “kicking and screaming” above (cmsinaz on September 18, 2011 at 2:14 PM)

Barnestormer on September 18, 2011 at 4:29 PM

No thank you. Madame “smart power” can pack her bags as well. From Honduras to Israel and the ME to Russia she has been almost as big a disaster as her boss. Her screw ups just haven’t had as noticeable of an effect on our daily lives, YET.

MJBrutus on September 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

As it happens, there is someone at hand who fits this description: Hillary Clinton. Her husband presided over a boom, she’s been busy deposing dictators instead of destroying jobs, and she’s never been accused of being a pushover

I beg to differ. Hillary Clinton has been busy spreading the caliphate by enabling Islamicists and intolerance to the West.

onlineanalyst on September 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Now if they can only get Barry’s EGO to agree.

GarandFan on September 18, 2011 at 4:02 PM

…and the Marquise de Pompadour’s appetite…

Keep them there, until Jan. 20th, 2013.

Schadenfreude on September 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

I think that’s the general imagery such folks are working with. Obama didn’t fail as a president, America (and mostly conservative America) failed Obama by making it impossible for him to govern because he is black. And, sadly, in many quarters it would work.

Rational Thought on September 18, 2011 at 4:03 PM

You may be right, but wouldn’t/won’t those same comments be made if he runs and loses?

Red State State of Mind on September 18, 2011 at 4:44 PM

They’re all the same. All Obama did was expose the Democrat party for what it is. Now, like roaches when the lights are turned on, they all want to run and hide.

What they are really looking for is a new face. Not a new agenda. A new mask to wear, not a change of clothing.

JellyToast on September 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Clinton and Obama ran on nearly identical platform and policies. The chief difference: the insurance mandate. Hillary was for it, Obama against it.

rrpjr on September 18, 2011 at 4:53 PM

The Clinton campaign had refrained from getting involved in the Wright controversy, but Clinton herself, responding to a question this morning, denounced what she said was “hate speech.”

“You know, I spoke out against Don Imus (who was fired from his radio and television shows after making racially insensitive remarks), saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that,” Clinton said. “I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving.”
Clinton: Wright ‘would not have been my pastor’ – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review Del Dolemonte on September 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM

She just responded to a direct question she oculdn’t avoid. That old Clintonian way would have been to smoke this out ahead of time, and leak it through someone they knew in the media, and try to keep her fingerprints off it.

(Admittedly, the whole MSM was afraid of being accused of raaaacism for any kind of criticiam of the One.)

Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 4:54 PM

This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up.

Greek Fire on September 18, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Well if Obama left AFTER the time to enter most of the Primaries went by, then that would leave the Super Delegates alone to pick who would run next.

Wouldn’t that be fun?

ajacksonian on September 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM

The ideal candidate would be a figure of stature and ability who can’t be blamed for the economy. That person should not be a member of Congress, since it has an even lower approval rating than the president’s.

It would also help to be conspicuously associated with prosperity. Given Obama’s reputation for being too quick to compromise, a reputation for toughness would be an asset.

As it happens, there is someone at hand who fits this description: Hillary Clinton. Her husband presided over a boom, she’s been busy deposing dictators instead of destroying jobs, and she’s never been accused of being a pushover.

Yes, please run Hillary in 2012! We could use the break….

I’m always amazed when people act as if Hillary is a plausible alternative. She’s a lousy politician, and she’s been an embarrassing Secretary of State. She’s never accomplished anything in public life — just like Obama. And her only role in government was a few years as a part-time senator as she was clearly gearing up to run for president — just like Obama. And as far as politics goes, she’s basically just about as radical as Obama. In fact, the one thing she was known for in the Clinton White House — well, except for demanding all staffers get out of the hallways when she walked through — was HillaryCare, which was virtually identical to ObamaCare.

In fact, she really seems to be nothing more than a less successful and less likable version of Obama himself. Would she actually do anything differently? She might be somewhat more competent, but that’s never actually been demonstrated anywhere.

tom on September 18, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Now, we have one job to do – together: Bind the nation’s wounds and roll up our sleeves. I look forward to it with all my heart, with what wisdom God has given me, and with the courage I get from your support and prayers.

Thank You. And God Bless America.”

reliapundit on September 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

sounds a lot like the fundamentals of Sarah’s resignation speech. Of course refusing to run for a second term would be akin to quitting. Bwahaha.

AH_C on September 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Stephen Chapman: “As it happens, there is someone at hand who fits this description: Hillary Clinton.”

Imagine that, what a stroke of luck for the nation.

slickwillie2001 on September 18, 2011 at 5:14 PM

sounds a lot like the fundamentals of Sarah’s resignation speech.

AH_C on September 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Only to someone who has never actually read the transcript of that speech.

Del Dolemonte on September 18, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Regarding the Dems being terrified of losing the Black vote: Blacks are 12% of the population, concentrated in states that are Dem strongholds anyway. Dems need Blacks to win local elections, not national ones. If I’m a Dem strategist I tell the Blacks to pound sand if they don’t like the strategy of running someone else. Dems don’t care about Blacks anyway. I just wish Black voters would grow a pair, step off the plantation the Dems have made for them, and see if their lives improved after voting Repub for a few cycles. What have you got to lose ? You’re hardly in paradise right now.

teacherman on September 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

The “deposing dictators” is a cute line, but she was part of the decision process that ended up refusing to submit the Libyan adventure for Congressional approval.

Deposing dictators? Are they kidding? In addition to the Libya debacle, Hillary was one of the morons who forced Honduras to allow its dictator wannabe back into the country, after they had expelled him. Hillary has been enabling dictators, not deposing them.

AZCoyote on September 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM

I was trying to figure out how Hillary had ever taken a deposition of a dictator, since that’s the only definition of “deposing” that fits her. I guess I just figured she’d been taking depositions while dodging sniper fire.

tom on September 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Might be time to recheck the dictionary for the definition of “hubris.”

Barack Obama thinks he has a problem.

He doesn’t have a clue that he is the problem.

IndieDogg on September 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Is this a signal to the Democrat Party – it’s okay with us back in Chicago, go ahead primary his butt :)

Dr Evil on September 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Just remember: videotapes being withheld by the Los Angeles Times can be released;

MTF on September 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM

That’s always been my contention – you’ll know the dem machine has completely turned on him when the Khalidi tape is leaked.

PatMac on September 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

but a palace coup in the Democratic Party could split the hard-Left progressives and would certainly poison the relationship between the Democratic Party and black voters.

There is is again…that obligatory sop to the slaves of the dem party.

Why is that their vote even matters to them? How many are registered and eligible to vote anyway? 2 million?

Twana on September 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM

There is is again…that obligatory sop to the slaves of the dem party.

Why is that their vote even matters to them? How many are registered and eligible to vote anyway? 2 million?

Twana on September 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM

It’s not about reality – it’s about perception “Got White Guilt”

Dr Evil on September 18, 2011 at 5:29 PM

it’s about perception “Got White Guilt”

And that’s one thing I’m sorely lacking after 50 years of trying to make things right. To say nothing of having my taxes squandered to ‘level the playing field”.
I’ve had my fill.

Twana on September 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM

I think it’s entirely possible that Obama won’t run for re-election. There are 17 Dem/Ind Senate seats up for re-election in 2012, and I can’t see them being willing to go down with the ship if it looks like Obama will lose big. Not to mention the plans to take back the House.

If the Dem base stays home, the Dem Senators lose big. I’m certain they’d rather have a POTUS candidate who would generate some Democrat excitement that would help them down ticket.

And I think Obama could be persuaded to find some good excuses to bow (no pun intended) out. Narcissists would rather quit than lose.

Just a thought.

SlaveDog on September 18, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Life’s a b!tch and then you get reelected?

In this environment that’s like hoping for a colonoscopy, without the lube or anesthesia.

A liberal President next term will wonder how a Republican could be so mean (I cleaned that up).

Speakup on September 18, 2011 at 5:39 PM

A liberal President next term will wonder how a Republican congress could be so mean (I cleaned that up).

Speakup on September 18, 2011 at 5:39 PM

So, regardless of the damage being done to the country by them, this clown wants to make sure DemocRAT policies continue – even at the expense of his erstwhile messiah.

Knott Buyinit on September 18, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Attaaack Waaaaaaatch!

Knott Buyinit on September 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM

The more likely scenario is that the Obama is already planning on his third term and being named President for life….

albill on September 18, 2011 at 5:45 PM

The reason this wouldn’t really work is that to be effective, the new Dem candidate would have to – to a large extent – run against Obama’s policies. It wouldn’t be enough to simply not be obama – the person would have to explain who they would do things differently than Obama. I suppose they could try and claim that the policies were right but they were incompetently implemented or something, but would that really fly?

How is a dem going to run by claiming all the dem policies are wrong?

Monkeytoe on September 18, 2011 at 5:45 PM

it’s about perception “Got White Guilt”

And that’s one thing I’m sorely lacking after 50 years of trying to make things right. To say nothing of having my taxes squandered to ‘level the playing field”.
I’ve had my fill.

Twana on September 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM

But others are still out there, trying to square that circle, and they will vote to make themselves feel better. ( People can argue if that’s a rational or thought out response, to the civil duty of voting) That’s the appeal that’s made to them- vote and feel better about yourself – you did your part to make things right. And it works like a charm every time on those folks. I don’t know why, they don’t ever notice, that nothing get’s better, for the people, they are supposedly voting in their interest, to make amends to. Perhaps because they don’t care about them truly. They only care about how the way they vote, makes them feel good about themselves. White Guilt has a lot to answer to in this country. It’s held a lot of people back through promoting dependency on the state. There is a golden rule, If you can do no good at least do no harm.

Dr Evil on September 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

If only.

RebeccaH on September 18, 2011 at 6:16 PM

No way.

A dem needs 90%+ black support to win in PA, OH, FL.

If Barry is pushed, Hillary or whomever else is the Dem nomi ee will lose all 3 and thus the election. blacks will not vote GOP but they will stay home in droves

angryed on September 18, 2011 at 6:18 PM

It’s been a long time and I didn’t finish watching the whole season of “24″ but the one scene that stuck with me is that there was some maneuver to take “President Logan” down. It was the last episode of the series, and I remember the SS dude while Logan was giving a speech he couldn’t believe he had to pull him out and escort him out b/c he was under arrest…he said, “What?” “Repeat that?” and nobody noticed…he knew.

I can’t find that; yelp?

ProudPalinFan on September 18, 2011 at 6:26 PM

“with what wisdom God has given me, and with the courage I get from your support and prayers.

Thank You. And God Bless America.”

reliapundit on September 18, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Maybe, but he isn’t one to over-”God/prayer” his speeches. He has to maintain secular approval from his atheist lib friends. Allah, I am not referring to you.

leftnomore on September 18, 2011 at 6:28 PM

Found it:

Later, Logan is kidnapped by Jack aboard Marine One, whose intent is to extract a confession from him. Jack tries to get him to confess, but fails. Jack is deeply tempted to kill Logan, but the president remarks that he would be remembered as a martyr like Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy, while Jack would be viewed as an assassin like John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald. Jack decides not to kill Logan and is subsequently arrested. However, unbeknownst to the president, Jack placed a microtransmitter in Logan’s pen while frisking him. He accuses Martha privately of helping Jack and threatens to send her to a psychiatric facility. He ends up confessing his part in the day’s events with the microtransmitter still emitting. Logan is consequently arrested by the Secret Service during his eulogy of David Palmer.

Karen Hayes speculates that Logan may be granted clemency for his actions in exchange for his immediate resignation, in order to protect the country from the embarrassment of a trial. Hal Gardner was then expected to be sworn in as the new President. It was revealed in Season 6 that Logan resigned from office after pleading guilty to obstructing justice and was placed under house arrest. To prevent a damaging scandal enveloping the Presidency his role in David Palmer’s assassination and providing nerve gas to terrorist groups were not publicized.

(From Wiki)

ProudPalinFan on September 18, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Given the immensity of his ego and his phenomenal narcissicism, I just can’t see him stepping aside, period. But especially for Hilary.

ProfessorMiao on September 18, 2011 at 6:44 PM

as an incumbent only has more resources on which to call this time around.

Yup! That good ol stimulus is going to pay off for the boy king.

capejasmine on September 18, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Why would he quit now, he’s done such a great job all you have to do is ask him. He’d have to be hauled out kicking and screaming to leave the campaign which is where he really comes alive. This idea must mean the far left has someone else in mind, but not Hillary.

Kissmygrits on September 18, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Not only will he not step down, he will run for, and quite possibly get, his parties nomination to try again in 2016.

Rebar on September 18, 2011 at 7:24 PM

No, there will be no Evan Bayh, or anybody else. The democrats sold their soul to the Left many years ago — despite the warnings from tribunes like Harry Truman and John Kennedy — and now the reckoning is here. There is no escape.

All we’ll see in the next 14 months is a rising crescendo of desperation. Remember — we have a desperate Leftist cornered in the most powerful position in the world. As they say — do the math. This “math” will be chilling and unprecedented.

rrpjr on September 18, 2011 at 2:52 PM

The reckoning is here.

petefrt on September 18, 2011 at 7:24 PM

ProudPalinFan on September 18, 2011 at 6:35 PM

If he steps down, it not be ‘voluntary’. It will be for a ‘deal’ such as this.

I don’t watch much TV, and I never got into “24″. Is there a place on the internet or TV to watch the series?

petefrt on September 18, 2011 at 7:35 PM

The reckoning is here.

petefrt on September 18, 2011 at 7:24 PM

The last two special elections for house seats NV and NY flipped to Republicans in Democrat friendly districts. Obama is polling under 50 in California, yeah we’re real close……..

Dr Evil on September 18, 2011 at 7:48 PM

The real question is Obama able to walk away from a second term? It might not be something he would or could willing do. The key to that question is to what degree his narcissism affects his ability to make decisions.

That Obama is a narcissist has long been established. That in itself is not always a negative trait or means that they are doomed to failure. Bill Clinton is also a narcissist. Clinton was a successful president and has continued to be a successful statesman afterward the presidency.

Narcissist tends to be highly intelligent. It is the primary factor in their successfulness in manipulating situations to their benefit. Clinton’s intellectual ability was often seen and played a role in his enjoyment of being president.

Obama is quite the opposite. Those who support and surround him, his enablers as they are, profess him to be highly intelligent. Those statesmen and others who have had a chance to privately discuss matters with him often find him intellectually lacking. Further placing into question his intellectual abilities is his reliance on someone else to do the work required for his claimed accomplishments. Obama does not willingly make decisions that he cannot shift the responsibility of to someone else if that decision proves wrong. This strongly suggests that he has a fear of failure and most likely is deeply embedded in his narcissistic psychosis. It is also strongly suggested in his fear of those that do not support him. He almost never allows those near him that do not support his views. He almost never takes questions from individuals that have not been given the question he wants to answer. He has attacked demonize large groups of people, or individuals that oppose him.

Unlike Clinton who found being President of the United States a challenging and rewarding position, Obama wishes he had the power to wave a wand, or being a king, or like his counterpart in China, to just have the ability to just say make it so without having to make anyone agree with him or question what he was doing. That he actively seeks ways to circumvent Congress and the will of the people is further indication that he is aware of in failure and inability to do what he envisions himself able to do.

Obama knows that he not only is failing, but had failed, and failure is not one of his options. We are seeing the results of that fear and failure now. Obama’s latest actions are the ones most troublesome. Demanding a joint session of Congress at a time that was punitive to his enemies, to establish a campaign is not something a sane man does. Nor is campaigning with statements of “If you love me, help me pass this bill” which has not even been presented to Congress.

He came into office believing himself to be able to do what ever he wanted because he won, and the people had given him a mandate to pass the healthcare law and a mandate given to him in his childhood to use it to undo capitalism and replace it with socialism. He has to achieve those goals. If he is not re-elected the healthcare and his mandate of socialism will fail.
Obama cannot declare that he will not run for a second term.

Then there is problem of Michelle. She has grown accustom to lavish vacations paid for by the tax payers. They make 1.7 million a year. That is not enough to cover her travel expenses even if she flew coach. If he does not win, he is going to be sitting on the curb.

Franklyn on September 18, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Months ago in an interview Palin said she didn’t think the field was set – on either side of the aisle. The reporter ignored her – as did all other commentators.

Perhaps she’s waiting to see if Obama gets a primary challenge.

Which would happen in the next few weeks since the first state filing deadlines are the middle of October …

If so, Palin has incredible discipline. Just sayin’…

hrh40 on September 18, 2011 at 8:01 PM

No thank you. Madame “smart power” can pack her bags as well. From Honduras to Israel and the ME to Russia she has been almost as big a disaster as her boss. Her screw ups just haven’t had as noticeable of an effect on our daily lives, YET.

MJBrutus on September 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Agreed. And she helped put the $crews to Poland and to Georgia. Her sucess has been in looking relatively more competent than the rest of the “keyston cops” administration.

DrStock on September 18, 2011 at 8:18 PM

As much as I love Rush, he had a hand in Obama’s winning. Operation Chaos.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Operation Chaos was telling Republicans and Independents to vote for Hillary in the Primaries, not Obama. Obama was winning several primaries in a row when Rush tried to stop him by having people vote for Hillary. To make sure the Democratic party was NOT united behind their nominee, that looked to be Obama at that point. I don’t think that Rush actually thought they could affect enough primaries to actually swing the nomination to Hillary.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Franklyn on September 18, 2011 at 7:48 PM

That was stop on, excellent. I hope people take the time to read every word.

I think the difference in narcisism between Obama and Clinton is that Obama was raised feeling entitled and this sense of entitlement and having everything go easy for him carried through the 2008 election. He believed all the Messiah spin said about him. Clinton came up the hard way.

Obama has a chip on his shoulder from his childhood and a resentment of America from his elders and mentors.

Clinton was just messed up by the disfunction in his family, but it sharpened his skills and intellect and made him pragmatic.

Since he was a young teenager in the private school in Hawaii through Columbia and Harvard and elected office at a young age, Obama was entitled and because of his race was sped along the path to the White House.

Never paid dues. Never worked hard. Never lived in the real world. Always treated with kid gloves and praised.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 8:50 PM

*spot on, not stop on.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 8:50 PM

A malignant narcissist will never admit anything bad is his fault. Obama is in it until the moving vans pull up to the White House to inform him that it is over.

Mallard T. Drake on September 18, 2011 at 3:41 PM

I can’t even begin to imagine how Obama would handle this. He and everyone else will blame it on racism, of course, and say they never really gave his ideas a chance and the put up road blocks to his success and legislation.

But aside from that excuse to allow him to arrogantly go on, he will still never get over it.

At least I hope that is the scenario. Never underestimate the Republicans ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I was discussing this post with my husband just a few minutes ago. In his view, there is no way the Democrats will ask Obama to step down and not run for reelection in 2012 because the optics in the black community would be nothing short of devastating. The talk would be a bunch of white Democrats “lynched,” in the political sense, a black president when the times got tough. The black vote would be non-existent for the new Democrat running in Obama’s place, and the GOP would win the presidency easily, assuming there’s no third party candidate diverting votes away from the Republican nominee.

I think he may be right.

Kim Priestap on September 18, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Yup.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 9:00 PM

teacherman on September 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Although Blacks are only 12% – 13% of the population nationally, they do affect national eletions. Dems don’t win close elections if they stay home. In the some states that usually go Dem, they are about 14-20% of the population. In some Southern States with higher populations, there is still a good number who do not participate and the states often go Republican. Overall, only 50-60% of Americans of all races vote. A few percentage points here or there does make a difference in close elections.

As you know, it is the state electoral votes that decide who wins the Presidency.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 9:19 PM

And as more Blacks entered into the middle class after REagan, more became Independent. Although most are still Dem most voted for Obama. Something I can totally understand in 2008. Alot of Black people had to put up with alot of crap in their life.

I can’t understand it in 2012 after seeing Obama for 4 years. But it will happen again anyway.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 9:22 PM

hrh40 on September 18, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Well, she did say in India that there could be a primary challenge to Obama and she’s waiting for that. She doesn’t think much of the republican field but if the Democrats ran a woman by primarying Obama she might sit this one out.

promachus on September 18, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Just a thought.

SlaveDog on September 18, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Some good thoughts. But if Obama looks like he is tanking in the polls, I can see Dems spin it and campaign it that “we need to elect Dems in Congress and Senate to counter the obvious coming win of a crazy Tea Party controlled Republican.” (even if it’s Romney) Kind of light a fire under the Dems to get them to the polls even if some don’t care about Obama.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 9:30 PM

I think a more likely scenario would be the Dems searching for a third party who could syphon votes from the Repub and let Obama win. Palin and Perry are smart to court Trump.

Elisa on September 18, 2011 at 9:36 PM

elisa on September 18, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Excellent point but, as someone earlier noted, the real impact of the Black vote has to do with the actual number of registered voters, that actually go and vote consistently. True, no-shows would affect elections, but I submit that no-shows constitute the great majority of the vaunted Black vote, and its significance is greatly over estimated on the national (which, as you pointed out, is really the state) level. Blacks can swell the margin of victory, but , it’s my belief, that if they all stayed home you’d see no difference in the results of a Presidential election.

teacherman on September 18, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Obama is in this until the end. No way will he not run. And his campaign is/will be more of the same Dirty Chicago Politricks.

galvestonian on September 18, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Step down when you can declare ‘Martial Law’…?

… You guys are in for a real wake up call.

Seven Percent Solution on September 18, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Why is that their vote even matters to them? How many are registered and eligible to vote anyway? 2 million?

Twana on September 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM

There are 55 million blacks in America. I’m pretty sure there’s more than 2 million that vote.

And another thing: With probably the exceptions of California and New York, it is the blacks that turn states blue. Without Philly & Pittsburgh, PA is red. Same with Michigan and Illinois. Without Detroit and Chicago, those states are red.

Lanceman on September 18, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Ace has the goods. This National Post piece explicitly blames the media sycophancy for the mess in which we find ourselves, in having elected an obviously incompetent President.

A few more like this and even the NYT will feel obligated to take a bite out of the President’s reputation. Obama should be in full panic mode, just as Carville suggested.

MTF on September 18, 2011 at 10:52 PM

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