ChiTrib editor: Say, maybe it’s time for Obama to withdraw from 2012

posted at 2:00 pm on September 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

It’s one thing for John Fund, Allahpundit, or me to speculate on whether Barack Obama will bother running for a second term.  It’s another when one of the editors of a home-town newspaper tells a President to pull out.  Stephen Chapman of the Chicago Tribune’s editorial board writes in today’s paper that it’s time for the battered champ to hang ‘em up:

I checked the Constitution, and he is under no compulsion to run for re-election. He can scrap the campaign, bag the fundraising calls and never watch another Republican debate as long as he’s willing to vacate the premises by Jan. 20, 2013.

That might be the sensible thing to do. It’s hard for a president to win a second term when unemployment is painfully high. If the economy were in full rebound mode, Obama might win anyway. But it isn’t, and it may fall into a second recession — in which case voters will decide his middle name is Hoover, not Hussein. Why not leave of his own volition instead of waiting to get the ax?

It’s not as though there is much enticement to stick around. Presidents who win re-election have generally found, wrote John Fortier and Norman Ornstein in their 2007 book, “Second-Term Blues,” that “their second terms did not measure up to their first.”

Well, there’s a scary thought.

So what would happen if Obama voluntarily stepped aside?  Chapman has the same thought that occurred to me last month:

The ideal candidate would be a figure of stature and ability who can’t be blamed for the economy. That person should not be a member of Congress, since it has an even lower approval rating than the president’s.

It would also help to be conspicuously associated with prosperity. Given Obama’s reputation for being too quick to compromise, a reputation for toughness would be an asset.

As it happens, there is someone at hand who fits this description: Hillary Clinton. Her husband presided over a boom, she’s been busy deposing dictators instead of destroying jobs, and she’s never been accused of being a pushover.

This presumes that Obama would go gently into that single-term good night, the first President who declined to run for another term since LBJ.  If he did, it still wouldn’t solve all of the Democrats’ problems.  The “deposing dictators” is a cute line, but she was part of the decision process that ended up refusing to submit the Libyan adventure for Congressional approval.  And the dictator hasn’t entirely disappeared yet, either, and we’re still not sure what will end up taking his place.

Even if Obama appeared to retire on his own a la LBJ, there would be a significant number of Democrats who would believe he’d been pushed — and pushed out by the Clintons and their clique.  It’s no secret that Obama wanted to keep the Clintons at as much arms-length as he possibly could.  He has not included Bill Clinton very often in official efforts even though Obama could clearly benefit from Clinton’s skills, and on the one memorable occasion where Obama called on the former President, Clinton ended up taking over the stage.  Hillary would appeal to the voters Obama is losing — suburban families in the Rust Belt and Midwest — but a palace coup in the Democratic Party could split the hard-Left progressives and would certainly poison the relationship between the Democratic Party and black voters.

And if Obama won’t go on his own, then there is no play for Hillary.  If she tried running a last-minute primary challenge now, all of the above comes into play — and she doesn’t have the time to build an organization that can compete with Obama’s in the field now.  (Neither does anyone else, either.)  After all, Hillary had the Clinton machine ready to deliver her to her 2008 coronation when Obama out-organized and out-boxed her, usurping her spot at the top of the ticket, and as an incumbent only has more resources on which to call this time around.

I’ve said repeatedly that I think a withdrawal by Obama is a low-probability event at best, and I still believe it to be a long shot.  However, when the home-town papers are starting to make the call for retirement, it’s maybe not quite as much of a long shot as before.

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It’s not going to happen nor do the leftys who are attacking him want him to pull out. They want him to move farther to the left.

Blake on September 18, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Whoa!

petefrt on September 18, 2011 at 2:04 PM

she’s been busy deposing dictators instead of destroying jobs,

Oh, yeah, how’s that “Arab Spring” working out for ya?

Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Never gonna happen. Obama worships himself. He’ll fight to the bitter end, then “retire” to a life on the lecture circuit bemoaning all the raaaaacists who cut his Magical Mystery Tour short.

OhioCoastie on September 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

LMFAO!

never going to happen.

upinak on September 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Maybe regretting you went to court to get Obama’s senate opponent’s sealed divorce records opened?

Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

We have had enough of the Clintons!

Col.John Wm. Reed on September 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

They could run Jarrett and cut-out the middleman.

cthulhu on September 18, 2011 at 2:08 PM

I’ve sent this to #GestapObama, I would appreciate it if everyone else did too, just to make sure the racist nature of the columnist is properly recognized.

Bishop on September 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM

drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip . . .

honsy on September 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Yeah, right…

The Narcissist-in-Chief will take one for the team.

I think if far more likely that Palin will jump in and give him the nightstick on her way to the Oval Office than it is for Obama to step aside.

There is nothing in his history that would point to this ever happening.

turfmann on September 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM

He won’t step aside but when the media and in your hometown is hoping that happens, it’s got to be really, really bad with the internal or honest polling.

Vince on September 18, 2011 at 2:09 PM

I can’t see the biggest narcissist in the world giving
up the biggest title in the world.

vcferlita on September 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Reported article to:

Atttaaaccckkkk Waaaatttccchhhh!!!!!

trs on September 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM

OhioCoastie on September 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Agreed. Wishful thinking by a libtard who’s seeing that they’ll probably lose the White House next year.

IR-MN on September 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM

No, it’s never going to happen. In fact, having it happen might be our worst nightmare. Run, Barry, run.

What so delicious though is this:

It’s one thing for John Fund, Allahpundit, or me to speculate on whether Barack Obama will bother running for a second term. It’s another when one of the editors of a home-town newspaper tells a President to pull out.

Let the games begin.

petefrt on September 18, 2011 at 2:11 PM

None of these idiots in the liberal media get it. But why should they? They’re liberals. Obama’s presidency — and his own judgment of that presidency — has nothing to do with conventional benchmarks or a standard criteria of national health such that we normally expect from any self-respecting American president. The “worse” he does by the standards these twits believe he cares about is in fact a kind of perverted achievement. Obama intends his “legacy” to be the total undoing of traditional America.

This cannot be accomplished in four years. He needs the next four — chockful of EOs and recess appointments and judgeships and his multifarious other covert stratagems — to finish the job of “transforming” America.

rrpjr on September 18, 2011 at 2:11 PM

If you think for one nano-second that mo and jarrett would let this happen, well a re-think is needed! Even if bho wanted to, I don’t believe his ego would allow it either, he won’t do it just out of spite!
L

letget on September 18, 2011 at 2:13 PM

So, when does this person lose thier job for talking about Obama?

upinak on September 18, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Enjoy your audit.

rogerb on September 18, 2011 at 2:14 PM

They are dreaming to think he would leave voluntarily….kicking and screaming will be more like it

cmsinaz on September 18, 2011 at 2:14 PM

This sounds like a racist ATTTTAAAAACK !!!

Someone report this ASAP.

The White House must be defended from these racists.

PappyD61 on September 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM

I wouldn’t go as far as you have Ed. Stephen Chapman is supposedly the Trib’s token conservative. His columns are featured in your sister blog – Town Hall. He’s pretty much like you – a RINO.

bw222 on September 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM

..this site disagrees with the Obama will step down mantra.

Note: not a cheap, shameless, blog-whoring link. This guy maintains a really good chronicle of The Boy King’s failures. You owe it a look.

The War Planner on September 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM

He’ll fight to the bitter end, then “retire” to a life on the lecture circuit bemoaning all the raaaaacists who cut his Magical Mystery Tour short.

OhioCoastie on September 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM

He’ll retire to the lecture circuit, if we’re lucky. If we’re not so lucky, he’ll retire to the USSC (appointed by his Dem successor), the UN, or some other kingly position in his ‘progressive’ new world order. From there this little thug will be clawing for power over us ’til his dying days.

petefrt on September 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM

He’ll give it up if Soros tells him to.

DrAllecon on September 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM

And then November 2012 will arrive and all the Liberals will shuffle on in to vote for Barack Obama again because, ::sigh::, life’s so unfair, and the biggest problem is, ::sigh::, he needs their support.

/forecasting ongoing Liberal disaster.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM

They are dreaming to think he would leave voluntarily…
cmsinaz on September 18, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Of course. They dreamed him into existence. Now they want to dream him out. It’s not that easy, boys. He’s their monster, and they’re all implicated in his damage.

rrpjr on September 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM

Oooo…Moochelle’s gonna write a nasty letter to the Editor…

kingsjester on September 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM

The ideal candidate would be a figure of stature and ability who can’t be blamed for the economy. That person should not be a member of Congress, since it has an even lower approval rating than the president’s.

I think Evan Bayh has positioned himself nicely to be that candidate. He says he has no plans to run. But what democrat has?

cubbieblue25 on September 18, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Oh my.

RedNewEnglander on September 18, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Mr. Precedent, your administration is in a quagmire. What is your exit plan?

phreshone on September 18, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Expect more Obama bashing from the left. They have to blame the messenger, otherwise people might think there is something wrong with the message. Can’t have that can we.

Spider79 on September 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

At this point I don’t think the Clinton’s are interested in risking what they consider to be Bill’s legacy.If Hillary were the nominee, the Dot Com bubble would be brought up more and more to explain the economy under Bill. We’d also have the opportunity to drag up everything the Left tries to forget about the Clinton’s.

I just don’t think Hillary is in that sort of fightin’ mood on behalf of the Democrats. She took a pretty sexist beating from them 3 years ago. I think she’s realized now that she can be quite comfortable going forward and doesn’t need all the stress.

FTR, I personally and politically dislike both Clinton’s strongly. Just wanted to make sure that was clear.

Jason Coleman on September 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Moochelle ain’t gonna give up her private jet and fawning staff.

Dingbat63 on September 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Wow. The bottom has fallen out. Rats…sinking ship.

kingsjester on September 18, 2011 at 2:22 PM

I don’t see Valerie Jarrett’s nail-marks any time soon midway up the front door interior.

There’s no way she, Axelrod, Daley and beer-drinkin’-on-the-clock-Barry will ever simply walk away from another term.

My estimation is they will need to be pried out of the place and then the entire White House debugged, fumigated and sprayed for certain possible ongoing elements after they are decamped in January 2013. Even Carville can’t help their disaster now.

57 states!

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM

I opened my Tribune at lunch (the real one! The kind that gets delivered to your door!) and flipped right to Op-Ed and almost spit out my salad when I saw the headline. And when I came to this page, I thought I might see a reference at the top, with one of those “Oh My; Trib columnist thinks Obama should resign.” I’m quite pleased to see you treat it as a full item.

I would add, as kind of a caution, that I believe Steve Chapman is along the Libertarian lines. He’s an equal-opportunity critic, it seems to me.

lizzieillinois on September 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Although I do have to wonder all this talk about him maybe stepping down isn’t some way to provide an “OUT” for the brewing scandals (Solyandra, Lightsquared,etc.)

If Solyandra is as big as it looks and if there’s a smoking gun about pressuring the general, they might be looking for a way to get out without having to face the music.

Jason Coleman on September 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Moochelle ain’t gonna give up her private jet and fawning staff.

Dingbat63 on September 18, 2011 at 2:20 PM

I would not put it past her to leave D.C. with that under tow. If there’s a rationalization to be had, I’m sure she’ll think of something to claim all of that is owed to her.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Like I posited the other day, Trump will run as a 3rd party candidate with Hillary as Veep. If they win, Trump will resign within weeks to tend to his businesses – leaving us with the she-Devil as President.

(Hey – crazier theories have been posted here lately!)

honsy on September 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

can’t we get some editorial support over there at the Trib???

/Blago

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

The Troops agree.

GTFO, Obama.

/A small, little man.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

As it happens, there is someone at hand who fits this description: Hillary Clinton. Her husband presided over a boom, she’s been busy deposing dictators instead of destroying jobs, and she’s never been accused of being a pushover.

Except when it comes to allowing her husband to abuse and screw other women.

hepcat on September 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Obama is dumb, found out, worn out, unloved and depressed.

However, he still is the narcissist and socialist thug he’s always been. Michelle would never let him live down that he gave up her Marquise de Pompadour life-style.

As Ed said, the blacks would never forgive anyone that their One was shamed.

Altogether the left and the media, I know, same thing, wanted him.

Live with the malicius fool you brung. The shame s/b total, 40 states or bust in 2012. If not, the populace deserves what they have and can only blame themselves.

Schadenfreude on September 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Wow, this may make me re-subscribe to The Trib!

Seriously, I do NOT want Hilary to replace BO–we have already had one “historical” election based on identity politics. I most certainly do not want another!

I also don’t want him to be nominated to the SC, should he decide to retire and hand the presidency over to HRC, b/c you know she would get in, by hook or by crook (more likely crook). She would appoint him in a flash.

I have to agree, Soros and Jarrett will NEVER let this happen.

herm2416 on September 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Oh, my. Stepping down would make him a “Quitter!”

Palin stepped down and received harsh criticism. The thought of being compared to Palin in any respect must be a horror for Duh Won.

Oh, well. It’s either quit or face the music for the next year. Which is worse for poor wittle Barrwie?

Cody1991 on September 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Ahhh.. Here we go again. I’ve said it about 25 times.

“Keep your eye on Evan Bayh”

There was a reason he retired during Zero’s first term. And, he took his war chest with him. And, did I mention he is a Fox News contributor?

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Given Obama’s reputation for being too quick to compromise, a reputation for toughness would be an asset.

Clearly Chicago is not on the same planet I inhabit.

Buy Danish on September 18, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Great, just great article, on topic.

But, please. Don’t share any of this with AttackWatch.com, the third and newest operation set up by this president inviting good and decent Americans to hand over the names of critics who say mean things about the president.

It seems ominous — and would have been denounced as Orwellian if George W. Bush had done anything of the sort. But the truth is, it’s sad. The aim, I’m sure, is to inspire liberals — who now hate Obama’s enemies far more than they love Obama — to get involved in his re-election.

In 2008, the “politics of hope” campaign trained volunteers to testify about how they “came to Obama” the way one talks of “coming to Jesus.” Now they ask supporters to help build a digital enemies list. Which they’ll do, of course. But not because they love him.

Schadenfreude on September 18, 2011 at 2:31 PM

What I think is odd are the number of people that are already conceding (albeit tactitly) that Obama’s political goose is cooked next year (I tend to agree with them but I’m not a Democrat). What really stands out to me is how far Obama has fallen in terms of influence and relevance. Could anyone here have imagined back in 2008/09 that there would be mainstream articles being written proposing that Obama need not seek a second term? I couldn’t have. What is really interesting to me though is who/what is pushing these articles out there. Someone on the Dem side wants him out – the only question is who.

volnation on September 18, 2011 at 2:32 PM

To Obama, the White House is a place to plant his feet. All over the furniture. IN front of anyone. At any meeting. Stick his feet up. ‘Cause he’s, you know, so above all that.

The Resolute Desk is gonna’ need a resurfacing after Barack, Michelle and the Mother in Law are shown the door in January 2013.

Postcards from the Oval Office

If he does run again, I pray God it’s him running out of town.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM

This is just a bunch of lefties try to gin up a sympathetic 52%.

darwin-t on September 18, 2011 at 2:34 PM

If Hillary ran, she’d have to run on the Obama record. Just saying she was in foreign policy and didn’t have anything to do with domestic wouldn’t do. She would want to run on the Clinton record.

Wethal on September 18, 2011 at 2:34 PM

she doesn’t have the time to build an organization that can compete with Obama’s in the field now.

Don’t agree. I think the Clintons could have a viable campaign operation up and running in a matter of weeks.

Mark1971 on September 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Obama under the bus, eh? The irony nourishes me.

29Victor on September 18, 2011 at 2:36 PM

Dick Daley is preparing to go all Godzilla on their offices…

JohnGalt23 on September 18, 2011 at 2:36 PM

The Troops agree.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Notice the music to keep the cricket away.

petefrt on September 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

I’m down.

ernesto on September 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

I think Hillary as Cassius to Obama’s Caligula is a far more-entertaining prospect than a voluntary abdication.

Immolate on September 18, 2011 at 2:38 PM

Hussein Hoover. I like that.

Chuck Schick on September 18, 2011 at 2:38 PM

in which case voters will decide his middle name is Hoover, not Hussein.

“Delano” would be more accurate.

cktheman on September 18, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Don’t agree. I think the Clintons could have a viable campaign operation up and running in a matter of weeks.

Mark1971 on September 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM

They won’t.

They will retire with dignity; as they should.

Now, about those JeffersonsObamas… eh, not so much. They will retire to the luxury of an ACORN office and solicit donations from Dollar Store shoppers.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Tru dat rrpjr

cmsinaz on September 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Don’t agree. I think the Clintons could have a viable campaign operation up and running in a matter of weeks.

Mark1971 on September 18, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Yup. They have friends in low places. An Obama loss in the general election would (will) be a devastating blow to the Dem Party. If O were to bow out and H were to jump in, she’d have staff & donors lining up for miles.

29Victor on September 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

I’m down.

ernesto on September 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

does that “im down” mean “i’m down with that” like “I agree” or “I’m down” as in “I’m depressed.”?

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

I can see him doing this. Save for his enormous ego, he has plenty of millions left over from the ’08 campaign. He might decide to just cash in and walk.

NoamSayin on September 18, 2011 at 2:46 PM

The most devastating fact is this:

That millions of Americans were fooled into voting for this fraud. Not only that… As a result of othat fateful vote, millions of American taxpayers were saddled with the debt that this fraud wrought upon them. And their children. And their grandchildren. And their grandchildren’s grandchildren.

Will we right this ship? Of course we will. This is America.

Will we be fooled again? No, No We Won’t.

.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

A teachable moment.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:46 PM

I can see him doing this. Save for his enormous ego, he has plenty of millions left over from the ’08 campaign. He might decide to just cash in and walk.

NoamSayin on September 18, 2011 at 2:46 PM

Campaign cash has to go back to the Debbie Wasserman Schultz, head of the DNC.

/That’ll be fun to watch. The money.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:47 PM

The Trib must be hearing rumblings from some of the Chicago money people who backed Obama in 2008, e.g. Penny Pritzker.

Like Ace said. they will throw a President under the bus before they will admit that liberalism has failed.

rockmom on September 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

The guy can’t even admit that he’s made any mistakes other than not concentrating enough on “communicating the message”, and everything that’s wrong is the fault of someone (or some thing) else. So I don’t see Mr. President giving up the post. I think he may be forced to give up the post if people do their due dilligence and investigate his involvement in some of these scandals that are coming to light.

scalleywag on September 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Don’t disrespect Hoover by comparing Obama to him. Hoover at least got a dam built that is still providing power to millions 75 years later. That’s a greater legacy than Obama will ever have.

Mark1971 on September 18, 2011 at 2:49 PM

America Awakes.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:50 PM

I think he may be forced to give up the post if people do their due dilligence and investigate his involvement in some of these scandals that are coming to light.

scalleywag on September 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

I wonder if we’ll see more investigations into the Tony Rezko scandal and others….?

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM

The Trib must be hearing rumblings from some of the Chicago money people who backed Obama in 2008, e.g. Penny Pritzker.

Like Ace said. they will throw a President under the bus before they will admit that liberalism has failed.

rockmom on September 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

I think the Left recognizes that Obama won’t win a second term.

So they’re (almost certainly) scrambling to wedge Hillary in there. Or the newest Kennedy generational item. Whichever, the bottom line is that the Left recognizes Obama won’t win re-election, so they’re beginning the re-do and it does appear that Hillary is the most “ready to go” item.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM

How on earth would someone like Evan Bayh run a counter-insurgency campaign within this Democrat party? Democrats are definitively and immiscibly a machine party — ruled, driven and operated at the street level by the organized machine. It’s preposterous even at the theoretical level. Even a Hillary Clinton candidacy at this point is nonsensical.

No, there will be no Evan Bayh, or anybody else. The democrats sold their soul to the Left many years ago — despite the warnings from tribunes like Harry Truman and John Kennedy — and now the reckoning is here. There is no escape.

All we’ll see in the next 14 months is a rising crescendo of desperation. Remember — we have a desperate Leftist cornered in the most powerful position in the world. As they say — do the math. This “math” will be chilling and unprecedented.

rrpjr on September 18, 2011 at 2:52 PM

So they’re (almost certainly) scrambling to wedge Hillary in there. Or the newest Kennedy generational item. Whichever, the bottom line is that the Left recognizes Obama won’t win re-election, so they’re beginning the re-do and it does appear that Hillary is the most “ready to go” item.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM

She won’t rescue the Dem party. What they did to her in 2008 was inexcusible and unforgivable. Let them Dems twist in the wind. She’ll retire with Bill with dignity. As she should.

She has been absolutely gracious on all fronts. FUBO, I hear that’s the latest chant.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM

I think he may be forced to give up the post if people do their due dilligence and investigate his involvement in some of these scandals that are coming to light.

scalleywag on September 18, 2011 at 2:48 PM

I wonder if we’ll see more investigations into the Tony Rezko scandal and others….?

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM

To state the obvious, any/all investigations are only possible and occur when there’s a GOP majority present, and renewal in GOP good-faith as to party-voter-support.

However, note that there is such an abundance of grimy information already available about “Barack Obama” and little of it has made a dent in his 25% hardcore Left supporters, particularly as from among media and social media.

All this means it’s critical to maintain and gain Republican majorities in Congress.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Tony Rezko scandal and others….?

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM

That would be a great start, it might even be enough.

scalleywag on September 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM

I wonder if we’ll see more investigations into the Tony Rezko scandal and others….?

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM

I once knew a girl.. her name was unusual. She called herself January.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:56 PM

I want him to run and to be beaten like no other person in the history of this country. I want it to be a LEGENDARY beating. Moochelle and Barry should become the laughing stock of the world. They deserve nothing less.

UnEasyRider on September 18, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Hillary is the most “ready to go” item.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM

She won’t rescue the Dem party. What they did to her in 2008 was inexcusible and unforgivable. Let them Dems twist in the wind. She’ll retire with Bill with dignity. As she should.

She has been absolutely gracious on all fronts. FUBO, I hear that’s the latest chant.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM

I don’t consider Hillary as well nor as much a victim as some do.

She’s “the most ready-to-go” candidate, is what I expressed. Already packaged, already sold to people who are sold by such (the Left). What Hillary would decide, I have no idea, but I doubt she’d decline a nomination for the Presidency regardless of what her experiences have been.

I certainly wouldn’t vote for her, however, just saying that it sure looks likely that should Obama go away, it seems likely that Hillary would be the Left’s next tactic.

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:58 PM

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

The former.

ernesto on September 18, 2011 at 2:58 PM

“Candidate Clinton, what would you have done differently than President Obama?”

“Ummm, ahhhh, ummmm, ahhhh, ummmm, ahhhh…”

Rational Thought on September 18, 2011 at 2:58 PM

I want him to run and to be beaten like no other person in the history of this country. I want it to be a LEGENDARY beating. Moochelle and Barry should become the laughing stock of the world. They deserve nothing less.

UnEasyRider on September 18, 2011 at 2:57 PM

DITTO!

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM

I’m down.

ernesto on September 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM

does that “im down” mean “i’m down with that” like “I agree” or “I’m down” as in “I’m depressed.”?

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

coffee… nose… screen… LMFAO! Nice!

upinak on September 18, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Never happen. His narcissism would never allow it, and the Democrats would never admit they nominated the wrong candidate.

Del Dolemonte on September 18, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Ditto also. I think that bho and mo ARE already the laughing stock of the world. It makes me sick those two are in the wh and how the world leaders view them. My country has not has such in my long life time there.
L

letget on September 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Lourdes on September 18, 2011 at 2:58 PM

You are absolutely right. I think my point was that she won’t run because she doesn’t have to run. They want her to run. They are ‘sorry’ for the way they treated her. They (the media) are ‘sorry’ for allowing Zero to throw down the race card against Bill.

Hillary has her creds; so does Bill. They’re going to retire in laughter as they watch Zero try to swim in his own mucking stew.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM

The “deposing dictators” is a cute line, but she was part of the decision process that ended up refusing to submit the Libyan adventure for Congressional approval.

Deposing dictators? Are they kidding? In addition to the Libya debacle, Hillary was one of the morons who forced Honduras to allow its dictator wannabe back into the country, after they had expelled him. Hillary has been enabling dictators, not deposing them.

AZCoyote on September 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM

She’ll retire with Bill with dignity. As she should.

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM

How can she remain with him and still claim to have shred of dignity?

darwin-t on September 18, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Ditto also. I think that bho and mo ARE already the laughing stock of the world. It makes me sick those two are in the wh and how the world leaders view them. My country has not has such in my long life time there.
L

letget on September 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM

At least back then we had funny sitcoms Obama’s murca?

/We got nuttin

Key West Reader on September 18, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Obama: “Can I keep the Nobel Prize and the million dollars?”

faraway on September 18, 2011 at 3:06 PM

does that “im down” mean “i’m down with that” like “I agree” or “I’m down” as in “I’m depressed.”?

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 2:44 PM

And could Hillary’s campaign motto be “Go Down on Clinton in the Office?”

29Victor on September 18, 2011 at 3:07 PM

“Oval Office”

29Victor on September 18, 2011 at 3:08 PM

It is time for the full up comedy gold parade to begin with Obama. There is so much pent up comedy that could be done with this guy. It has just been waiting in the wings and it is waaaay overdue for a rollout. creative, nonhollywood/snl folks versed in comedy need to bring it and bring it haaard.

ted c on September 18, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Ditto also. I think that bho and mo ARE already the laughing stock of the world. It makes me sick those two are in the wh and how the world leaders view them. My country has not has such in my long life time there.
L

letget on September 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM

An anecdote: my teenage kid uses Twitter (I don’t), and she tells me the other day she went to the @MichelleObama page and it was nearly all negative. People really do not like Michelle Antoinette. It’s just another tough feature of Barry’s re-election efforts — the country does not like his wife so she isn’t going to be very useful on the stump on his behalf. He has to run for re-election while continuing to keep his tacky nouveau riche wife as invisible as possible.

Rational Thought on September 18, 2011 at 3:09 PM

I wouldn’t go as far as you have Ed. Stephen Chapman is supposedly the Trib’s token conservative. His columns are featured in your sister blog – Town Hall. He’s pretty much like you – a RINO.
bw222 on September 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM

True. Yet the Trib still published the editorial, fully knowing the content and that everyone would read or hear about it. Having gone from a propaganda tool for the Obama campaign in 2007-08 (I cancelled my subscription because I didn’t want to support Obama with my money, even if by proxy; it was ridiculous), to Obama should be a OTP. They’re sending a message.

conservative pilgrim on September 18, 2011 at 3:10 PM

A little belated buyer remorse?

bayview on September 18, 2011 at 3:11 PM

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