Uh oh: WH pleading with Senate Dems to back jobs bill

posted at 12:05 pm on September 16, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

In a further indication just how badly the White House fumbled the jobs bill, The Hill reports that administration officials had to meet with opponents in Congress to convince them to back the plan.  Unfortunately for Barack Obama, those opponents weren’t House Republicans.  They were Senate Democrats — and so far, it’s still no sale:

Senior administration officials met with Senate Democrats for an hour and a half on Thursday to answer their complaints about President Obama’s jobs bill.

Democratic lawmakers voiced objections to several of the president’s proposals to pay for the $447 billion stimulus package, including an elimination of tax breaks for the oil-and-gas industry.

David Plouffe, a senior adviser to the president, acknowledged after a marathon meeting in the Senate’s Mansfield Room that not all Democrats are sold on the plan. …

“I think the vast majority of them are excited about it,” Plouffe said after the meeting.

“The vast majority”?  It only takes four of them to keep it from passing on a floor vote, as Democrats only have a 53-47 advantage in the Senate.  In the news report itself, there are already enough Democrats objecting to derail it entirely.  Mark Begich, Jim Webb, Mary Landrieu, and Barbara Mikulski are all named in this report as opposing the bill.  None of them face voters in 2012, having to explain backing tax hikes, massive new spending, and a rerun of the 2009 Porkulus flop.  If Mikulski objects to the bill, will Ben Nelson in Nebraska back it?  Claire McCaskill in Missouri? Mark Pryor, who has to stand for re-election in Arkansas in 2014?  None of the endangered Democrats in the next two cycles will dare vote for $450 billion in new spending to do the exact same thing that didn’t work in 2009.

Chuck Schumer hosted the meeting, according to the report, which is curious in itself.  Why not Harry Reid?  Isn’t he the Majority Leader?  Why not Dick Durbin, who is Reid’s second in command and presumably a backer of the jobs bill from his fellow Illinois politician?  Schumer tried to paint a picture of unity on the way out of the meeting:

“There were some disagreements on different parts here and there but the overall feeling was that the administration is open to suggestions from members about different policy issues on jobs and strategic ways to deal with jobs,” he added.

“Open to suggestions” means “back to the drawing board.”  This is why a competent White House would have asked their allies in the one chamber of Congress their party still controls for input before writing the bill.  Their failure to engage with their allies had Senate Democrats publicly blasting the plan earlier this week, ruining Obama’s strategy of blaming Republicans for stalling on his jobs bill.  If the White House can’t even convince Democrats to take the plunge with Porkulus II: Economic Boogaloo, Republicans will argue, then why should they?

We can also count Pennsylvania Senator Bob Casey as an example of what battleground-state Senators will do when presented with Obama’s jobs bill.  In an interview with KDKA, Casey says he won’t go for the package as presented — and instead backs the idea from House Republicans to break up the bill into a series of votes on each component:

“I’m afraid if we tried to pass one big bill, I think there’s a lot of skepticism about big pieces of legislation with all kinds of different component parts. We should break this up”, said Casey. He later stated, “Why not have a series of votes on job creation strategies – five votes, 10 votes, I don’t care if it’s 25 votes.”

So that’s five Senate Democrats on the record as opposing the bill so far, which is why Reid won’t schedule it for a vote. The AJA has become a complete debacle for Obama and his team. If the Senate can’t move it — and I doubt it will ever come to the floor — then Obama will have made himself as irrelevant as he possibly could have on jobs and the economy, and painted himself as a man with no clue as to how to boost the economy … or even get a bill passed.

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LOVE ME!

Christien on September 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM

What, don’t they love him anymore?

lorien1973 on September 16, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Won’t Nancy let you borrow her inflatable gavel?

rogerb on September 16, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Congress is such a nuisance – I wish I could just bypass it./O

OldEnglish on September 16, 2011 at 12:13 PM

OT: Oh no. Abbas to request full membership at UN. Not good

ConservativePartyNow on September 16, 2011 at 12:14 PM

It’s a tough community to organize, isn’t it?
Welcome to the real world.

tomg51 on September 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM

I’ve got a novel idea: let Congress write all bills.

flyfisher on September 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM

“I think the vast majority of them are excited about it,” Plouffe said after the meeting.

I bet they became really excited when Obama started handing out dead fish wrapped in newspaper … with a smile of course.

darwin on September 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Anybody hear from Joe Manchin yet?

forest on September 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Why not Harry Reid?

I suspect the recent Nevada election has him shakin in his loafers. And it’s not caused by senility or old age.

capejasmine on September 16, 2011 at 12:16 PM

An “hour and a half” ( of white house time ) and “vast majority.” wow that’s some kool aide you’re selling.

This bill is so radioactive Reid won’t go near it either. Has anyone actually introduced it in the house, or is it still on the table in the mailroom?

dogsoldier on September 16, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Incompetence?Or is it something else?

docflash on September 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Since Obama’s bill is primarily a spending (and tax increase) bill, doesn’t the Constitution require that it originate in the House?

Wouldn’t it be “out of order” if passed by the Senate first?

SouthernRoots on September 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Lame Duck.

Rebar on September 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Congress is such a nuisance – I wish I could just bypass it./O

OldEnglish on September 16, 2011 at 12:13 PM

No Dem is going to want to be irrelevant, and Obama knows this. We also know, Obama would love to be a supreme ruler. What he says, goes. He’s mentioned that, several times.

I sometimes wonder if this isn’t the real reason for the push back. They’re getting wise to the true intentions of the regime.

capejasmine on September 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM

“I’m afraid if we tried to pass one big bill, I think there’s a lot of skepticism about big pieces of legislation with all kinds of different component parts. We should break this up”, said Casey. He later stated, “Why not have a series of votes on job creation strategies – five votes, 10 votes, I don’t care if it’s 25 votes.”

As a Penna.voter,why didn’t you take that approach with the Obamacare bill? Oh! That’s right, your party controlled all three branches at the time.

oldernwiser on September 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM

I’m in yhe process of writing an e-mail to harry red “demanding” that this bill be put up for a vote in the Senate immediatly. “All or nothing” as obozo has demanded. Then we can blame the Republicans. Oh wait………….

VegasRick on September 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I think it’s nice to see Obama on his knees for a change. ;)

lorien1973 on September 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM

You senate dems are, like, totally ruining my campaign bill to villify House Republicans (a.k.a. the new Bush).

New Attaaaaaaaack Waaaaaaaatch! honors for:
Mark Begich
Jim Webb
Mary Landrieu
Barbara Mikulski

NickelAndDime on September 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM

LOVE ME!

Can’t you just picture Jim Carrey standing there with his hands out pleading to Aniston in Bruce Almighty?

cktheman on September 16, 2011 at 12:21 PM

If they spent an hour and a half, i’ll wager more than 5 senate dems are refusing to go along. I’ll bet a “vast majority” said, “thanks for this scooter. no thanks!”

dogsoldier on September 16, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Who knew so many Democrat sens were racist, terrorists who put party ahead of country?!??

angryed on September 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Casey is a freshman Senator, up for re-election in PA next year, and Obama is upside-down in the state big time (those bitter clingers!) and may take Casey down with him.

But Casey has the onions to criticize “big pieces of legislation” that need to be broken up, when the hypocrite voted for ObamaCare?

crushliberalism on September 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM

SouthernRoots on September 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM

It’s supposed to start in the house, yes.

dogsoldier on September 16, 2011 at 12:22 PM

I think it’s nice to see Obama on his knees for a change. ;)

lorien1973 on September 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM

What, you haven’t seen the first Lady at all? Obama is always on his knees and Mrs. Obama definitely wears the pants.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 16, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Since Obama’s bill is primarily a spending (and tax increase) bill, doesn’t the Constitution require that it originate in the House?

Wouldn’t it be “out of order” if passed by the Senate first?

SouthernRoots on September 16, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Pffft. The constitution? That silly piece of paper written 100 years ago by dead white dudes with funny wigs. Nobody takes that seriously, except those radical tea partners. Get with the times man.

angryed on September 16, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Casey thinks an extension of the payroll tax cut would help create more jobs and explains that the original extension put $1,000 in the working man’s pocket.

Seemes to be geared to the working population with the idea that it will be spent to provide more jobs? Is that all they’ve got?

Vince on September 16, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Looks like Manchin isn’t to keen on it either:

Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin (who campaigned using a bad promo for Top Shot) predictably led the white-flaggers, issuing a statement shortly after the speech saying he had “serious questions about the level of spending that President Obama proposed.

Note to Tommy Christopher: West Virginia is a state. Manchin is from there.

forest on September 16, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Super roundup of responses to Speaker Boehner’s speech to the Economic Club in DC:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/277387/liberate-jobs-nro-symposium

Slow and steady with the pro-growth method is attracting Dems disgusted with Obamanomics, and no slurs were even directed toward the nudnik.

onlineanalyst on September 16, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Carter on steroids. The biggest implosion in presidential history that I can remember. Sho’ ’nuff hate it for ol’ Scooter.

kingsjester on September 16, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Obama 2012: Pretty Please?

Jim Treacher on September 16, 2011 at 12:27 PM

This approach will benefit Obama with female voters. I’m told they find desperation so sexy.

SKYFOX on September 16, 2011 at 12:28 PM

New Kardashian “Peak Shoulder” all the rage in Washington!Perhaps this may be an area of common ground?

http://themorningspew.com/2011/09/16/a-peak-at-michelle-obama-shouldering-the-kardashian-look-biden-too/

bloggless on September 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM

What, you haven’t seen the first Lady at all? Obama is always on his knees and Mrs. Obama definitely wears the pants.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 16, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Where I come from we call those tents.

VegasRick on September 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM

I think it’s nice to see Obama on his knees for a change. ;)

lorien1973 on September 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I’ve seen him in that position many times.

Sincerely yours,

Larry Sinclair

honsy on September 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM

bloggless on September 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM

A set of fangs would complete the blood-sucking Bela Lugosi look.

onlineanalyst on September 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM

where’s the love?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_nXlvY6Io

ted c on September 16, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Obama 2012: Pretty Please?

Jim Treacher on September 16, 2011 at 12:27 PM

+1 I’m hoping his inevitable implosion didn’t start too early.

flyfisher on September 16, 2011 at 12:35 PM

+1 I’m hoping his inevitable implosion didn’t start too early.

flyfisher on September 16, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Me, too. However, I sure am enjoying it…and it makes blogging easier.

kingsjester on September 16, 2011 at 12:37 PM

then Obama will have made himself as irrelevant as he possibly could have on jobs and the economy, and painted himself as a man with no clue as to how to boost the economy … or even get a bill passed.

unrequited love?

ted c on September 16, 2011 at 12:37 PM

None of the endangered Democrats in the next two cycles will dare vote for $450 billion in new spending to do the exact same thing that didn’t work in 2009.

Tut, tut, Ed! The White House has assured us that Porkulus I saved or envisioned 3.2 million jobs.

John the Libertarian on September 16, 2011 at 12:37 PM

The AJA has become a complete debacle for Obama and his team.

Sensing a trend….?

(I think they call it a “death spiral”)

Tim_CA on September 16, 2011 at 12:38 PM

The administration still hasnt figured out that operating in a vacuum has a downside

Koa on September 16, 2011 at 12:43 PM

None of the endangered Democrats in the next two cycles will dare vote for $450 billion in new spending to do the exact same thing that didn’t work in 2009.

DWS told us that Porkulus 1 worked! She thinks we are just too dumb to know we are better off then we were before Porkulus 1. Since DWS is the leader of the DNC and speaks for the Democratic Party, how can any Democrat disagree with Porkulus 2?

IowaWoman on September 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM

SCOAMF.

Red Cloud on September 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM

David Plouffe, a senior adviser to the president, acknowledged after a marathon meeting in the Senate’s Mansfield Room that not all Democrats are sold on the plan. …
“I think the vast majority of them are excited about it,” Plouffe said after the meeting.

What a bunch of crap. The “vast” majority of whom? I’ll bet he heard crickets when he asked if anyone would help him. The socialist utopia (nightmare for all of us) is beginning to dissipate enough even for some of the “slowest” to realize what has been going on for three years. I hope there’s some jail time in this for some of them!

HomeoftheBrave on September 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Welcome to lame duck status, Mr. Obama!

michaelo on September 16, 2011 at 12:47 PM

The administration still hasnt figured out that operating in a vacuum has a downside

Koa on September 16, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Sure does. He just expected the Senate dems to go lockstep with him regardless of the consequences. I guess he missed that spectacular drubbing last november and the two recent special elections.

Is it possible his immediate crew have him convinced that the recent losses are not about him?

dogsoldier on September 16, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Bill Nelson wont touch this if he wants to have any chance of keeping his Senate seat in FL next year.

RadClown on September 16, 2011 at 12:50 PM

I think it’s nice to see Obama on his knees for a change.
lorien1973 on September 16, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Funny… That is exactly what Larry Sinclair said.

LegendHasIt on September 16, 2011 at 12:52 PM

WH pleading with Senate Dems to back jobs bill

Because following his orders on Obamacare worked out so well for them.

obladioblada on September 16, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Posted elsewhere:

Jobs bill – Just Obama Bull Sh…t

Chip on September 16, 2011 at 12:54 PM

This is why a competent White House would have asked their allies in the one chamber of Congress their party still controls for input before writing the bill. Their failure to engage with their allies had Senate Democrats publicly blasting the plan earlier this week, ruining Obama’s strategy of blaming Republicans for stalling on his jobs bill. If the White House can’t even convince Democrats to take the plunge with Porkulus II: Economic Boogaloo, Republicans will argue, then why should they?

Didn’t you hear maxine waters say the black caucus’s hands were all over it! No wonder it will go no where. It will be used to pay back unions – FORGET IT!

Bambi on September 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM

honsy on September 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Darn. I didn’t read comments far enough before posting. GMTA

LegendHasIt on September 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM

I hope I don’t get sick of popcorn.

tinkerthinker on September 16, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Is Casey finally waking up that we in PA are fed up with ØbamaCrap and his butt is toast if he continues to support it.

petefrt on September 16, 2011 at 12:58 PM

The man with no clue.

Har-har

Empty-suit, narcissitic, moron.

DuctTapeMyBrain on September 16, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Mark Begich
Jim Webb
Mary Landrieu
Barbara Mikulski
Bob Casey

You’ve all been reported to Attack Watch for inhibiting progress.

Washington Nearsider on September 16, 2011 at 1:02 PM

It couldn’t happen to a bigger as$hole.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 16, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Bill Nelson wont touch this if he wants to have any chance of keeping his Senate seat in FL next year.

RadClown on September 16, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Don’t bet on it. Nelson is a dimwit. Barely above Murray. He got elected ’cause he was a astronot, you know.

Lanceman on September 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM

On Moaning Joe today, I was told that Obama is the only mature adult in DC and that the GOP will enrage the public if they don’t agree to Obama’s proposals, all of which they’ve backed in the past. I don’t recall any mention of any Dem senators having reservations.

Seriously, Mika, Mike Barnicle, Eugene Robinson, and Scarborough told that this will be doomsday for Boehner and the GOP.

BuckeyeSam on September 16, 2011 at 1:10 PM

“The difference is, you’ve got me.”

“I have a gift, Hairy.”

I smiled a little schadenfreudian smile when he uttered those lines.

Lanceman on September 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Democratic lawmakers voiced objections to several of the president’s proposals to pay for the $447 billion stimulus package, including an elimination of tax breaks for the oil-and-gas industry.

You mean Oboobi didn’t confer with the dems before laying out his plan?

Ooops, I guess the product would then b a Donk plan, and not his own immaculate plan; after all he’s a better speech-writer than his own staff etc, ergo he’s a better legislator than any in his caucus.

AH_C on September 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM

It’s all theater.

SouthernGent on September 16, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Speaking of jobs, here’s Mike Bloomberg’s assessment of the situation from NYC:

“We have a lot of kids graduating college, can’t find jobs,” Bloomberg said on his weekly WOR radio show. “That’s what happened in Cairo. That’s what happened in Madrid. You don’t want those kinds of riots here.”

RadClown on September 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM

honsy on September 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Darn. I didn’t read comments far enough before posting. GMTA

LegendHasIt on September 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM

LOL! It happens to me, too – on occasion. No biggie!

honsy on September 16, 2011 at 1:23 PM

BuckeyeSam on September 16, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Yeah, that bit about them backing all his ideas in the past is a bald faced lie. The GOP never supported 471 billion in tax increases, or it would have made news.

dogsoldier on September 16, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Wait. What happened to this being a brilliant win, win, win strategy for Zero? Is he actually going to succeed in turning that into a loss? Or is this far from over?

stvnscott on September 16, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Lame Duck Dick.

Rebar on September 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM

FIFY.

The War Planner on September 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Has anyone actually heard if a dem in the house submitted this thing?

Last I read no one had actually submitted it. Still.

dogsoldier on September 16, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Last I read no one had actually submitted it. Still.

dogsoldier on September 16, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Submission is for Muslims.

honsy on September 16, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Not to get bogged down in procedural technicalities, but the Constitutional law genius might consider actually lining up a sponsor or two for his Porkulus II masterpiece before hyperventilating about passage–so that it’s actually, you know, A BILL.

Barnestormer on September 16, 2011 at 1:45 PM

It appears that Obama has done more than bankrupt America.
His political capital is gone; he is now politically bankrupt.

Has there ever been a more dramatic crash and burn in US History?

The Rock on September 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM

I support the American Jobs Act. We should pass this bill right now.

I think it’s HB 2911, right?

Jason Coleman on September 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Reid will deny Obama three times before the elephant roars.

pedestrian on September 16, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Jason Coleman on September 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM

H.R. 2911.

Barnestormer on September 16, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Obama will soon be campaigning against the whole congress, both Dems and Reps, pushing them as the cause of all of America’s problems. After all, their approval ratings as a whole are much lower than Obama’s. He will claim that only he can fight against the Washington career politicians with the help of the American people. If only he could do what “needs to be done” without congress’ interference. How long before he starts musing about an American run totally by the President of the People, and the merits of abolishing Congress. Term limits…. Poof, we don’t need no term limits….let’s have a president for life!! Sound familiar???

AverageJoe on September 16, 2011 at 2:38 PM

Speaking of jobs, here’s Mike Bloomberg’s assessment of the situation from NYC:

“We have a lot of kids graduating college, can’t find jobs,” Bloomberg said on his weekly WOR radio show. “That’s what happened in Cairo. That’s what happened in Madrid. You don’t want those kinds of riots here.”

RadClown on September 16, 2011 at 1:19 PM

When the sh*t hits the fan in NYC, somehow I don’t think it’s going to be college graduates out there shattering the windows. Except maybe for Billy Ayers’ guys.

bofh on September 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Why not Harry Reid?
I suspect the recent Nevada election has him shakin in his loafers. And it’s not JUST caused by senility or and old age.

FIFY

eyedoc on September 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Ha Ha Senate Dems voting Present.

lakeman on September 17, 2011 at 8:57 AM