Justice Department tells GOP investigators: Guns from “Fast and Furious” linked to three more murders in Mexico

posted at 9:20 pm on September 14, 2011 by Allahpundit

Three murders, that is, plus an attempted murder. Oh, and four kidnappings too.

The bad news for the White House? This is merely what we know right now. There may be more F&F-related violent crimes to come. The good news? If you’re caught between two hugely embarrassing scandals, better that the media focuses on the one without a body count, no?

According to the Justice Department letter:…

On July 1, 2010, two AK-47 type assault rifles purchased by Fast and Furious suspects were recovered in Sonora, Mexico after a shootout between cartels. Two murders were reported in the incident using the weapons…

On Nov. 14, 2010, two AK-47 type assault rifles purchased by Fast and Furious targets were recovered in Chihuahua, Mexico after “the kidnapping of two individuals and the murder of a family member of a Mexican public official.” Sources tell CBS News they believe this is a reference to a case we previously reported on: the terrorist kidnapping, torture and murder of Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez. Rodriguez was the brother of then-attorney general Patricia Gonzalez Rodriguez. The terrorists released video of Rodriguez before his death, in handcuffs surrounded by hooded gunmen.

On May 27, 2011, three AK-47 type assault rifles purchased by Fast and Furious targets were recovered in Jalisco, Mexico after having been fired. No other details of the incident were provided, but the date and location match with another incident previously reported by CBS News. On May 27 near Jalisto, cartel members fired upon a Mexican government helicopter, forcing it to make an emergency landing. According to one law enforcement source, 29 suspected cartel members were killed in the attack.

I’m thinking we should start a new sub-blog devoted to chronicling the bloodletting by Mexican cartels using F&F guns. We could call it “Attack Watch.”

Via Townhall cousin Katie Pavlich, here’s Issa laying into another assistant AG at a hearing on Fast and Furious a few days ago. Remember: No one important knows anything.

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We could call it “Attack Watch.”

I just reported you to AttackWatch for that.

amerpundit on September 14, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Just make it all go away! -Liberals

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:25 PM

But Obama will be reelected because his administration has suffered no scandals.

Doughboy on September 14, 2011 at 9:25 PM

No scandals if you overlook New Black Panthers voting intimidation, Fast and Furious, Gibson Guitar Raid and Solyndra Green (is people!).

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:27 PM

How many guns were sold? Thousands?

Skandia Recluse on September 14, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Oh, and Vagasil for all 5 year olds!

Sorry, that was Rick Skerry.

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:28 PM

But Obama will be reelected because his administration has suffered no scandals.

Doughboy on September 14, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Control the flow of information and you can control the masses.

darwin-t on September 14, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Oh, and Vagasil for all 5 year olds!

Sorry, that was Rick Skerry.

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:28 PM

*SNORT*

darwin-t on September 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM

I’m thinking we should start a new sub-blog devoted to chronicling the bloodletting by Mexican cartels using F&F guns. We could call it “Attack Watch.”

Morbid but brilliant AP! At what point does the MSM actually have to report on this?

bluemarlin on September 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM

We will probably never know the true number of murders linked to the Fast and Furious. What ever number the administration comes up with, it will be conservative lower than actual.

DAT60A3 on September 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM

At what point does the MSM actually have to report on this?

bluemarlin on September 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Never

darwin-t on September 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Elijah Cummings is an a**hole.

Mark1971 on September 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM

The Department of Justice’s Operation Fast and Furious:
Accounts of ATF Agents
************************

JOINT STAFF REPORT
Prepared for
Rep. Darrell E. Issa, Chairman
United States House of Representatives
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
&
Senator Charles E. Grassley, Ranking Member
United States Senate
Committee on the Judiciary
112th Congress
June 14 2011
****************

http://grassley.senate.gov/judiciary/upload/ATF-06-14-11-Joint-Issa-Grassley-report-on-agent-findings.pdf

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:31 PM

We could call it “Attack Watch

Can AllahPundit quote himself in the QOTD? Or would that rupture the time-space continuum?

John the Libertarian on September 14, 2011 at 9:31 PM

From Death Panels to Death Counts

faraway on September 14, 2011 at 9:31 PM

$500 billion to fix Fast and Furious, stat!

WisCon on September 14, 2011 at 9:32 PM

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Too bad Mr. Cummins didn’t apologize to the dead men’s families…nothing wrong with getting angry at someone’s death at the hands of a bureaucrat…

right2bright on September 14, 2011 at 9:33 PM

UnF*****GBeleivable!!

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:33 PM

It just floors me that the LSM and America aren’t up in arms (pardon the pun) over this, Solyndra, etc, etc, etc.

How many people got duped by white guilt and the ability to read a teleprompter.

gophergirl on September 14, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Honorable Weich…?

Really…?

Seven Percent Solution on September 14, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Ahem,

Liberal/Progressive Collateral Damage!!
(sarc).

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Vagasil for all 5 year olds!

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Clearasil for all beta males!

John the Libertarian on September 14, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Anyone want to talk about Solyndra?-Obama

artist on September 14, 2011 at 9:35 PM

They are coming after Issa with everything and everybody(LSM) they can muster…

d1carter on September 14, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Clearasil for all beta males!

John the Libertarian on September 14, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Damn, why didn’t I think of that? Genius.

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Does anyone know who has the authority to appoint a special prosecutor for Fast and Furious? Obviously Holder won’t appoint one to investigate himself.

flyfisher on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Fast and Furious, Gibson Guitar Raid and Solyndra Green (is people!).

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:27 PM

You know what would fix everything? More government spending and programs.

trubble on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Funniest part of whole video… Mr. Cummings talking about integrity….

kringeesmom on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

What would be happening if the demrats still held congress?

/s

csdeven on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

I say….when does the tsunami wave of corruption,incompetance
finally crash onto,er,in to the Oval Office!

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

I have it on good word from Charles Gibson that there’s no such thing as “Fast and Furious”.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM

At what point does the MSM actually have to report on this?

bluemarlin on September 14, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Never

darwin-t on September 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM

I know, it was a stupid question!

bluemarlin on September 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM

***********************REDACTION***************************

Equals………

********************TRANSPARENCY*****************************

Yes We Can,Fired Up/Ready To Go!

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:40 PM

WTH? Why is Vin Diesel involved in this scandal?

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:41 PM

I have it on good word from Charles Gibson that there’s no such thing as “Fast and Furious”.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM

It’s probably a topic that’s better suited for the cable channels, sniff sniff.

John the Libertarian on September 14, 2011 at 9:41 PM

I’m thinking we should start a new sub-blog devoted to chronicling the bloodletting by Mexican cartels using F&F guns. We could call it “Attack Watch.”

That’s top shelf blog booze right there, folks.

Weight of Glory on September 14, 2011 at 9:41 PM

You know what would fix everything? More government spending and programs.

trubble on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Hell, the first stimulus failed. It failed because it should have been 978 Gadzillion!

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Elijah Cummings is an a**hole.

Mark1971 on September 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM

“My people…” – Eric Holder

Seven Percent Solution on September 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM

I say….when does the tsunami wave of corruption,incompetance
finally crash onto,er,in to the Oval Office!

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Better chance of hitting him if it crashes on a golf course.

Patrick S on September 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM

I’m thinking we should start a new sub-blog devoted to chronicling the bloodletting by Mexican cartels using F&F guns. We could call it “Attack Watch.”

The Snark is strong with this one.

Dr Evil on September 14, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Heres Weichs letter!
************************

This responds to your letter concerning your concerns
of weapons trafficking along the Southwest border.

http://grassley.senate.gov/about/loader.cfm?csModule=security/getfile&pageid=33355

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Best line ever,AP.

Vera on September 14, 2011 at 9:47 PM

MSNBC’s all over this, right?

JammieWearingFool on September 14, 2011 at 9:47 PM

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM
Better chance of hitting him if it crashes on a golf course.

Patrick S on September 14, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Patrick S:Oh crap,your right,the golf course is actually,his
mobile Oval Office,*smacks head…duh*!

canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 9:48 PM

This is just one more post to report to Obamasnitch.com

They must be getting flooded today what with all this loose talk about guns and loans and other racist thoughts.

Drained Brain on September 14, 2011 at 9:49 PM

All of those other guns are still out there, and so far they haven’t been dropped at crime scenes, but you know they are being used nefariously.

But PBHO and Holder didn’t know jack about this. Nope.

Bishop on September 14, 2011 at 9:49 PM

This is merely what we know right now. There may be more F&F-related violent crimes to come.

Hundreds (or is it thousands?) of guns. It’s going to be FandFpalooza.

SlaveDog on September 14, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Let’s take bets. Which scandal will bring this administration down? A week ago I would have said Fast and Furious, now I am thinking Solyndra Green (is people!).

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:51 PM

“… better that the media focuses on the one without a body count, no?”

Unless you are a family member that will never see your loved one again…

… solely because Marxist/Socialist liberal politicians and career bureaucrats wanted to push their ideological agenda “under the radar”.

Makes me want to vomit…!

Seven Percent Solution on September 14, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Let’s take bets. Which scandal will bring this administration down? A week ago I would have said Fast and Furious, now I am thinking Solyndra Green (is people!).

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:51 PM

I’d have to go with Fast and Furious. No one died in Solyndra.

But who knows. Scandals have a life of their own.

SlaveDog on September 14, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Too bad Mr. Cummins didn’t apologize to the dead men’s families…nothing wrong with getting angry at someone’s death at the hands of a bureaucrat…

right2bright on September 14, 2011 at 9:33 PM

He doesn’t care. They didn’t share his skin hue.

honsy on September 14, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I’d have to go with Fast and Furious. No one died in Solyndra.

But who knows. Scandals have a life of their own.

SlaveDog on September 14, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Great point, and the very reason I believe Solyndra will bring them down. It is inconsequential compared to F&F.

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:56 PM

“We could call it “Attack Watch.”

C’mon AP, pull a Gohmert!!!

Gohawgs on September 14, 2011 at 9:56 PM

FYI: I have reported all of you to AttackWaaaaaaatch. Racists.

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:59 PM

“No laws were broken!”
/crr6

“Obama lied. Mexicans died.”

Khun Joe on September 14, 2011 at 10:00 PM

It’s called “The Sergeant Shultz Defense” – “I (we) know NOTHING!”

GarandFan on September 14, 2011 at 10:01 PM

Replace Cummings with Lt. Col. West. Let’s see if his inquiries will make these scums to go the restroom often.

ProudPalinFan on September 14, 2011 at 10:01 PM

Let’s take bets. Which scandal will bring this administration down? A week ago I would have said Fast and Furious, now I am thinking Solyndra Green (is people!).

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Great question. ABC is digging in their claws on Solyndra and they appear to know more than they’re saying. I think they’re going to get into the money laundering.

I’m frankly surprised ABC has gone this far on it – I think they finally figured out they could make a huge amount of money being the only major alphabet to investigate the WH for real. In addition, journalists willing to be honest at the end of this administration will make their bones and be rock stars in the next admin and beyond.

So the scandal that brings him down may not end up being the most egregious scandal (as Fast and Furious is far more serious), but the one that the media is actually willing to investigate beyond lip service.

It could also be that Solyndra may be the tipping point and then the MSM will begin to cover Fast and Furious in earnest. But there’s not that much time left for investigation in Obama’s first and only term.

Missy on September 14, 2011 at 10:02 PM

BTW, hold fast, Issa! I hope you have good security.

Missy on September 14, 2011 at 10:03 PM

I’m thinking we should start a new sub-blog devoted to chronicling the bloodletting by Mexican cartels using F&F guns. We could call it “Attack Watch.”

Genius

Erich66 on September 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM

Missy on September 14, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Great analysis Missy. I agree.

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 10:10 PM

I have it on good word from Charles Gibson that there’s no such thing as “Fast and Furious”.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Surely Charles Gibson recognizes this as part of the Obama Doctrine. You know, Blast and Spurious.

onlineanalyst on September 14, 2011 at 10:11 PM

I’m thinking we should start a new sub-blog devoted to chronicling the bloodletting by Mexican cartels using F&F guns. We could call it “Attack Watch.”

SOMEONE should report the DOJ and their attempts to smear the President. This is obviously racially motivated. This just screams out to be reported to ATTACK SWATCH. STAT.

***when the Whoredog Media goes after Issa then we’ll KNOW something is going down. Until then Issa ain’t doing jack. And you know Speaker GolfBud is NOT interested in going after the Democratic Jesus in the White House.

PappyD61 on September 14, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Who is this Cummings idiot apologizing on behalf of this Assistant AG? Surely, an Obama lapdog.

Erich66 on September 14, 2011 at 10:22 PM

That video looks old… I seem to remember that dem kissing Justice Dept ass exactly the same before.

Issa really ought to be going to the media letting EVERYONE know what the justice dept idea of transparancy is.

That is worse than the 18 minute gap from Nixon. This is a 3 year gap.

clement on September 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Great analysis Missy. I agree.

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 10:10 PM

I’d like to think that journalists will actually remember what the fourth estate is supposed to do, but it’s been such a loooooong time…

disa on September 14, 2011 at 10:29 PM

We aren’t the Mexican people (those still in Mexico) demanding that their government demand the extradition of Obama and Holder to Mexico to stand trial?

Lon Chaney on September 14, 2011 at 10:34 PM

It’s called “The Sergeant Shultz Defense” – “I (we) know NOTHING!”

GarandFan on September 14, 2011 at 10:01 PM

I saw nothing. I heard nothing. I know nothing. I have not even gotten up any morning since January, 2009.

OberfeldwebelSchultz on September 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Does anyone know who has the authority to appoint a special prosecutor for Fast and Furious? Obviously Holder won’t appoint one to investigate himself.

flyfisher on September 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Not going to happen until the democratics get on board, and they never will. It’s too close to little Bammie.

That’s a problem with the system we have. If Congress is doing an investigation and they need enforcement of a subpoena, want to charge someone with perjury or contempt, etc, their only route is through Holder. When Holder is the crook being investigated the system can’t work.

slickwillie2001 on September 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Let’s take bets. Which scandal will bring this administration down? A week ago I would have said Fast and Furious, now I am thinking Solyndra Green (is people!).

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 9:51 PM

I’m thinking Solyndra.

Fast And Furious has a body count, but the White House can play games and claim they weren’t involved because they have managed to obfuscate blame past Holder to this point.

Solyndra is a lot bigger cut-and-dry case of them doing underhanded stuff and pissing $500 million in federal funds away to a campaign contributor, as they have records of Kaiser coming to the White House as well as the White House leaning on the budget office to sign off on Solyndra to get the loan.

teke184 on September 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM

Cummings is a tool. Apologizing to that obscurantist POS from the DoJ was almost more than I could stand. Hundreds of pages of blacked-out redactions in lieu of discovery. Dozens if not hundreds of people murdered. Wordy non-answers to direct questioning. It goes on and on.

Watergate was a badly executed, politically motivated hotel break-in and subsequent payoff scheme. Teapot Dome was a sweetheart oil reserve deal brokered by the Harding’s Ohio Gang. This…this is something else entirely.

These are the same people who engineered the unsealing of Jack and Jeri Ryan’s sealed divorce proceedings prior to the Illinois Senate race. These are the people who ensured Chicago machine fixer Tony Rezco’s continuing silence even while in federal custody–or should we say especially while in federal custody. And how about Mayor Daley’s sudden, irresistible urge to retire just as Rahm Emmanuel resigns from the Obama Administration. We don’t see anything approaching this level of dirty tricks and downright criminality even among the robber barons of the Gilded Age or the bosses of Tammany Hall.

I understand Issa is being investigated now. The charges are goundless, of course, but the point isn’t to prove anything criminal or unethical. The point is to distract him from this investigation and undermine his credibility.

I don’t think people truly understand who and what is running the federal government right now, the nature and motivations of the people in charge. They planned these large-scale straw purchases knowing innocents would die as a result, and they did it to give cause to greater regulatory controls and more prohibitive gun control legislation.

One more time: not only did the officials who planned this disastrous operation know people would die, they wanted them to die.

troyriser_gopftw on September 14, 2011 at 10:59 PM

It really shouldn’t matter what your political leanings are when you think about this.

It really shouldn’t.

KMC1 on September 14, 2011 at 11:14 PM

I’m thinking we should start a new sub-blog devoted to chronicling the bloodletting by Mexican cartels using F&F guns. We could call it “Attack Watch.”

Yeah! let’s do it!

ted c on September 14, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Why is McCain so polite to these stooges? These lying scumbags make Sgt. Schulz lOok like a cooperating witness. They know nothing, they see nothing, despite the fact that these crimes are being committed in their own agencies, and they have been summoned to testify before the Senate about them. If they truly don’t know, which I don’t believe for a second, they have intentionally instructed their underlings not to inform them, and they have intentionally avoided informing themselves before appearing.

Time has long since passed to confront them, and call them out for the liars and perjurers they are. It is time for shouting and pounding on the podium and demanding the production of evidence.

McCain should insult them and pin them down. WHEN will you produce the evidence? WHAT DAY, EXACTLY?

These corrupt scum have the blood of innocents on their hands.

TIME TO DROP THE GLOVES AND GET DOWN TO BARE KNUCKLES.

novaculus on September 14, 2011 at 11:22 PM

The rabbit hole goes deeper:

A third gun linked to “Operation Fast and Furious” was found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, new documents obtained exclusively by Fox News suggest, contradicting earlier assertions by federal agencies that police found only two weapons tied to the federal government’s now infamous gun interdiction scandal.

Sources say emails support their contention that the FBI concealed evidence to protect a confidential informant. Sources close to the Terry case say the FBI informant works inside a major Mexican cartel and provided the money to obtain the weapons used to kill Terry.

Unlike the two AK-style assault weapons found at the scene, the third weapon could more easily be linked to the informant. To prevent that from happening, sources say, the third gun “disappeared.”

http://nation.foxnews.com/operation-fast-and-furious/2011/09/09/third-gun-linked-fast-and-furious-identified-border-agents-murder-scene

The FBI is obstructing justice and tampering with evidence, in the murder of an American law enforcement officer. Tell me with a straight face that they did it without the orders of Holder.

Rebar on September 14, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Obama putted while justice was gutted.

profitsbeard on September 15, 2011 at 12:05 AM

Do you guys even bother to read Sipsey Street Irregulars or David Codrea at Examiner?

You could be ahead of the curve if you do, rather than waiting on the mainstream media to do the work that journalists in touch with ATF whistleblowers are already doing, or already have done. Props to Ms. Pavlich, though – she seems to be moving pretty fast on the story.

CPL 310 on September 15, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Missy on September 14, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Brilliant post.

Odie1941 on September 15, 2011 at 1:15 AM

If my loved one in Mexico has been killed by a “Fast and Furious” gun, I would be screaming bloody murder and retaining the best lawyer I could find to target someone in the U.S. government for the felony of:

Criminal facilitation

In some jurisdictions, criminal “facilitation” laws do not require that the primary crime be actually committed as a prerequisite for criminal liability. These include state statutes making it a crime to “provide” a person with “means or opportunity” to commit a crime, “believing it probable that he is rendering aid to a person who intends to commit a crime.”[1]

Here’s footnote [1]”

^ (See e.g., N.Y. Penal Law § 115.05 (McKinney 1996); see also Ariz. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 13-1004 (1996); Ky. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 506.080 (Baldwin 1996); N.D. Cent. Code § 12.1-06-02 (1995). Cited in the U.S. Dept. of Justice report: Report on the Availability of Bombmaking Information, April 1997.)

cane_loader on September 15, 2011 at 2:01 AM

Is it possible for any Justice Department to be more corrupt than this one headed by Holder??

Selective law enforcement…race-based justice…and now actively participating in the murder of US Citizens!!!

LONG PAST TIME TO IMPEACH!!!

landlines on September 15, 2011 at 2:40 AM

So Cummings is more worried about the witness’s “feelings”.

What a doofus.

There are people dead over this program and he’s worried about some bureaucrat’s feelings.

ButterflyDragon on September 15, 2011 at 3:16 AM

Mr. Cummings (D): Mr. Weiss, let me apologize for [your treatment at this committee by Mr. Issa because of your stonewalling] because: “You’ve gotta go home to your family”.

Yeah, tell that to the murdered agent’s family. I’m sure they’d like to have him back home as well.

scotash on September 15, 2011 at 6:36 AM

The buck stops at …”where’s Janet Reno when you need her? Never mind -Joe, Joe Biden…congratulations Joe, you’re going to take one for the lipper!”

Don L on September 15, 2011 at 7:48 AM

A third gun linked to “Operation Fast and Furious” was found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, new documents obtained exclusively by Fox News suggest, contradicting earlier assertions by federal agencies that police found only two weapons tied to the federal government’s now infamous gun interdiction scandal.

Sources say emails support their contention that the FBI concealed evidence to protect a confidential informant. Sources close to the Terry case say the FBI informant works inside a major Mexican cartel and provided the money to obtain the weapons used to kill Terry.

Unlike the two AK-style assault weapons found at the scene, the third weapon could more easily be linked to the informant. To prevent that from happening, sources say, the third gun “disappeared.”
http://nation.foxnews.com/operation-fast-and-furious/2011/09/09/third-gun-linked-fast-and-furious-identified-border-agents-murder-scene

The FBI is obstructing justice and tampering with evidence, in the murder of an American law enforcement officer. Tell me with a straight face that they did it without the orders of Holder.

Rebar on September 14, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Like I’ve said before, and caught some heat from a poster for saying, it’s no surprise the FBI would stoop to underhanded dealings like this. They were implicated in Waco and Ruby Ridge, and it’s not beneath any of these alphabet police forces to participate in coverups or lawbreaking. The ATF does it all the time.

fossten on September 15, 2011 at 8:14 AM

TREASON.

These people pissed all over the Constitution and no one cares.

orbitalair on September 15, 2011 at 8:17 AM

We’ll be lucky if Mexico doesn’t sue us in an international court over this. F&F is the same type of thing we’ve been accusing Iran of doing, supplying guns to bad guys so they can do bad things. This president is no better than Imadinnerjacket.

Kissmygrits on September 15, 2011 at 8:54 AM

We’ll be lucky if Mexico doesn’t sue us in an international court over this. F&F is the same type of thing we’ve been accusing Iran of doing, supplying guns to bad guys so they can do bad things. This president is no better than Imadinnerjacket.

Kissmygrits on September 15, 2011 at 8:54 AM

That’s the sad state of our union.

Dr Evil on September 15, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Anybody keeping a list of the scandalous incidents of this administration?

Thanks to the obstructionism of AG Holder, the gun-running scandal doesn’t implicate the White House, yet.

Solynda, on the other hand, already has WH fingerprints all over it.

I haven’t forgotten the quashing of the Black Panther case.

LarryD on September 15, 2011 at 10:28 AM

carbon_footprint on September 14, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Odie1941 on September 15, 2011 at 1:15 AM

Thank you.

Incidentally, Tom Maguire at JustOneMinute has made carbon’s excellent question the subject of his latest post:

Pick Your Pony

Missy on September 15, 2011 at 11:33 AM