Again: Bachmann is RIGHT on the principles, but it gets dicey citing cases where individual anecdotes need to be vetted before tossing them out on TV. She came dangerously close to using the same demagogic tactics Perry employed in obstinately defending the order even after it was repealed.

Malkin is correct. Bachmann didn’t need to expand her argumnet beyond parental rights. I have seen a few speeches where Bachman went steroid when she didnt have to

However, Perry jumped the shark in my pond with his lame explanation of in state tuition for illegals – that you had a choice of educating them or having them on the dole, We have 8 million unemployed citizens, many wishing they could be on the dole. Does perry believe the public buys that in-state tuition keeps illegals off the dole?

Bachmann might believe what she said, but I do not believe Perry was giving an honest answer, not his answer about the fence not being buildable near a river

Of the two, Perry was fudging for sure

But that was the clear inference from Bachman and Palin. Quid pro quo. Corruption. Dirty politics. Unfounded and uncalled for. Shame.

Elisa on September 13, 2011 at 11:31 PM

If Palin’s the nominee-I prefered Palin over MB-I was going to actively campaign for her. Not anymore. That crap she said on Greta has cost her with me. She’ll get my vote(Duh!) but that’s ALL she’ll get from me. If she runs in the primary I will actively campaign against her.
Maybe we could start a petition campaign to pressure Jindal into running.
You with me?
*sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 1:41 AM

Jindal as President. I think I’m getting the vapors. lol

If only. Maybe one day. But how would I choose between Jindal and Rubio in the future?

I know how you feel. But I know I would put Palin’s bumper sticker on my car (and risk it being scratched here in NJ) anyway.

But you are right. After that interview with Greta, my heart won’t be in it and I see her differently. Also when she wouldn’t praise Cain enough in that interview.

In February 2007, “the Associated Press reported that Texas Governor Rick Perry, who had just required HPV vaccinations for all girls entering sixth grade, had accepted $5,000 from Merck’s political action committee the same day that Perry’s chief of staff met with key aides about the vaccine.”

The AP reported this back in 2007, and Rick Perry stated the same thing at the CNN TEA party debates.

It’s not.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 3:57 AM

How can you say that with certitude?

Its obvious that both Rush and Hannity are eager and ready to begin carrying Rick Perry’s water just as they did for GW Bush. And it looks like Ed Morrisey also has a bucket in his hand with RP written on the outside of it…. Darvin Dowdy

Darvin Dowdy on September 14, 2011 at 7:20 AM

Hardly, those are some pretty manners you have, insulting your host Mr Morrisey. Obviously you haven’t been raised right.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 3:57 AM

A perry supporter saying someone has lack of character has lost all sense of reality.

She’s not a saint-she’s a politician. Nothing more.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 3:57 AM

That would make her equivalent to Obama. Now who’s making it personal? Retract your claws, kitten. You’ll damage the good sofa.

She’s not a saint-she’s a politician. Nothing more.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 3:57 AM

Welcome to the real world…

The Boss Emeritus calls this a “really, really stupid attack on Palin” in an update to the linked post above, but I’m not entirely convinced. In the same post, Michelle argues:

The point is that Perry rushed to mandate the Merck-pushed order less than 8 months after it had received FDA approval. Clinical trial and safety data was extremely limited at the time. And scientific assessments are still coming in about the long-term and synergistic effects of this and other vaccines.

Sorry, that’s just silly. Once the drug is approved for use – not trial use – there is no reason NOT to use it. I don’t know what she considers “limited” data but the results were in and spectacular. The ratio of effectiveness to side effect is almost immeasurable because there are only mild local side effects noted and it is virtually 100% effective in immunizing against the targeted viruses. Not only is that remarkable for a vaccine, but for any drug.

I don’t give a rat’s patootie what “some have said” – that’s a liar’s rhetorical device which Obama prefers. Anecdote is not the singular of data. Instead of parroting unsubstantiated and anonymous rumors of side effects, she could just be honest about it. There is plenty of legitimate criticism of Perry’s action and policy, but there is no evidence of serious side effects from Gardisil.

steebo77 on September 14, 2011 at 2:37 AM

It’s not.
I disagree w/ Perry about the vaccine. You attack the issues-not the man. The girls were making it personal.
Palin’s line of attack on Greta speaks volumes about her LACK of character. Bachmann attacked in a way that didn’t surprise me-except her rabid anti vacc BS. I expected better from Palin. Why-I have no idea.
She’s not a saint-she’s a politician. Nothing more.

I wear the epithet(?) Palinista with pride.

BemusedMalkinite on September 14, 2011 at 3:18 AM

Yes epithet, that’s the word. I had a brain freeze the other day and couldn’t get euphemism out of my head, but I knew that word wasn’t right.

Yeah. I like it. How long has the term “Palinista” been around and used constantly?

ddrintn on September 13, 2011 at 8:46 PM

I like Perrynoiacs. ;)

I’m not sure what good for the conservative cause is accomplished by keeping Gardasil in its usual expensive state, not covered by copays – or by Palin had she refused to accept federal money that had already been alloted for Gardasil distribution.

I get that Perry was heavyhanded about it, but really, is this the hill you want the GOP nomination to die on?

If Palin’s the nominee-I prefered Palin over MB-I was going to actively campaign for her. Not anymore. That crap she said on Greta has cost her with me. She’ll get my vote(Duh!) but that’s ALL she’ll get from me. If she runs in the primary I will actively campaign against her.
Maybe we could start a petition campaign to pressure Jindal into running.
You with me?
*sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 1:41 AM

And what if that “crap” is true?

I am surprised Rush contributed to the bogus smoke screen.

Amjean on September 13, 2011 at 11:16 PM

Rush is right, it is a distraction to turn this into a whack job diatribe against the safety of vaccines and even Michelle Malkin said as much. Raising concerns about Perry’s ties to Merck or raising questions about his bypassing the legislature is perectly legitimate, but saying the vaccine makes people retarded completely killed whatever traction she may have gained. She pushed the whole “little girls” line too much as well – does she want this to be a question on whether Perry wants to hurt little girls? Her was unfocused and with the retardation line looked hysterical.

Sarah Palin focused like a laser on the Merck connection which is what Bachmann should have done.

Elisa on September 13, 2011 at 11:31 PM

If Palin’s the nominee-I prefered Palin over MB-I was going to actively campaign for her. Not anymore. That crap she said on Greta has cost her with me. She’ll get my vote(Duh!) but that’s ALL she’ll get from me. If she runs in the primary I will actively campaign against her.
Maybe we could start a petition campaign to pressure Jindal into running.
You with me?
*sigh*

That doesn’t mean that the FDA never approves an unsafe drug, but they at least preform due diligence before approving it. If it was FDA-approved, then it was fairly well tested.
tom on September 13, 2011 at 7:07 PM

List of withdrawn drugs

Unfortunately it often takes years before the biggest dangers are manifested. The CDC has some records of already admitted adverse effects from Gardasil, including death, at it’s site.

whatcat on September 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Sometimes the FDA is wrong. But you can’t really accuse them of recklessness. And if the FDA has approved a drug, you can’t really claim that a state government is jumping the gun for using it.

The better point is that all drugs have side effects, even vaccinations, and that governments should be very cautious about mandating them. How recently the FDA approved them is NOT a good argument.

MM is right about a lot, but she doesn’t have a perfect record.

Rush is wrong with his rant on Bachmann. While what she said is over the
top, it should in no way offer a smoke screen to the real issue
of Perry trying to force a mandate on the citizens who didn’t want it. If Obama did what Perry did (and he has) we
would be screaming about it. Instead, Rush and others are
jumping all over MB. (and full disclosure – I don’t think MB
is qualified to be president – however, like the fact that she is in the debates).

I am surprised Rush contributed to the bogus smoke screen.

Amjean on September 13, 2011 at 11:16 PM

Thank you for expressing my thoughts so perfectly (except the one about Bachmann’s qualification to be president) that I now wouldn’t have to type them out! :)

EVERYTHING you said here is obvious, and it’s disturbing that more on the Right are getting caught up in the hoopla over what really was/should have been an inconsequential comment by Bachmann. We are becoming a nation of wimps, so much so that even Rush is being affected by the contagion.

Perry needs to be kept on a tight leash. That being said, I am not too bothered with the idea of him President because I believe that his bad political wishes aren’t viable nationally. He’ll still leave me feeling slimed, though, no matter what! :)