Open thread: The NY-9 and NV-2 special elections; Update: AP calls it for Turner; Update: AP calls it for Amodei
posted at 8:35 pm on September 13, 2011 by Allahpundit
Polls close at 9 p.m. ET in New York and 10 p.m. ET in Nevada. PPP surveyed the latter race in just the past few days and predicts a double-digit win for Republican Mark Amodei. McCain barely won the district three years ago but thanks in part to a breezy 33/59 approval rating for Obama, this is now a walkover for the GOP.
The suspense is in New York. In one corner: Republican Bob Turner, who leads by six points in not one but two recent polls. That’s encouraging, as is the fact that the White House is already pre-spinning an expected defeat, but that margin is by no means a guarantee of victory in a special election. In the other corner: A guy who received a kiss-of-death endorsement this morning from Anthony Weiner; who can’t vote for himself today because he doesn’t live in the district — and has no plans to relocate if he wins; and whose secret weapon on the trail appears to be Bowser from Sha Na Na. There’s one simple question here. If Turner holds on, how much national significance does this victory have? Don’t the local quirks — chiefly a heavy Orthodox Jewish presence that’s placed special emphasis on gay marriage and the White House’s policy towards Israel — mean that this election is sui generis?
Says Nate Silver, maybe not:
A study by David Smith and Thomas L. Brunell on special elections to the House since 1900 finds that they do anticipate general election results to some extent: there is a modest, but statistically significant, correlation between how many seats change hands during special elections and which party does best in the next midterms.
The connection does not always work. In advance of the 2010 elections, Democrats won seven of the nine special elections to the House, with an even score as far as seats changing parties. (Democrats lost Hawaii’s First Congressional District to Republicans, but won New York’s 23rd, both under somewhat unusual circumstances with multicandidate fields.) Then they lost 63 seats in November…
But that assumes that parties are as cool-headed about the results as we’re attempting to be here. And they aren’t. A loss in New York’s Ninth District, after a rough couple of months for Democrats, will only worsen their morale. It could discourage other Democrats from running.
And it could affect campaign strategy in other races. Republicans might conclude that Israel is a vulnerability for Mr. Obama, for instance, and make it a bigger part of their campaigns. That may or may not be a good strategy for them — but it could affect the landscape of the campaign all the same.
In fact, state Democrats have already found the silver lining in a likely Weprin loss: It’ll be a “wake-up call” to Obama to change his policies before the party gets wiped out across the board next year. That makes sense superficially — Obama’s approval rating in the district is 36/52 — but what it means in practice, I have no idea. If in fact the district is a quirky outlier and not representative of mainstream Democratic opinion, which way is O supposed to shift policy-wise? Right, to pander to the more conservative Democrats of NY-9, or left, to pander to the base that’s not really in action tonight?
Here are the AP’s live results pages for NY-9 and NV-2, respectively. Exit question: Humpbot cameo if Turner wins?
Update: Benchmarks via Sean Trende:
In ’08, Weiner carried Brooklyn portion of NY9 52/48. Queens = 65/35. Queens = 70% total vote.There’s your benchmarks.
Update: More benchmarks via Nate Silver:
NY09 over/under line: Weprin (D) would need about 54% of the votes in Queens precincts, 42% in Brooklyn precincts, to tie Turner (R)
Update: With roughly 60 percent reporting, Turner leads by six as I write this — but there are almost 100 precincts still to come in from his stronghold in Brooklyn, so the margin’s bound to increase. At a minute before midnight on the east coast, the AP’s seen enough. Turner wins. The lede: “Republicans have scored an upset victory in a New York City House race that became a referendum on President Barack Obama’s economic policies.”
I should wait to do this until the race is called for Amodei in Nevada too, but with roughly 40 percent reporting, he’s out to an honest-to-goodness 20-point lead. We’ve seen enough there too, I think. Release the ‘bot.
Robot libido by sabotage
Update: Get out your broom. It’s over in Nevada too.









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Thank-You,Humpy Humpity Humpity Botaroo!!
canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 12:13 AM
The WH just announced that Barry will be getting a circumcision next week.
bayview on September 14, 2011 at 12:13 AM
SCHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!
El_Terrible on September 14, 2011 at 12:13 AM
I’m old school. C’mon, Kool and the Gang, kick it for me!!!
YAHOOOOOOOOO!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
theotherone on September 14, 2011 at 12:14 AM
Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Stop the jobs bill now. Do you hear us now??????
mobydutch on September 14, 2011 at 12:14 AM
The entire district gets reported to @attachwatch muy pronto…
txmomof6 on September 14, 2011 at 12:14 AM
Mark1971 on September 14, 2011 at 12:14 AM
THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!!!!
HEY HEY, HO HO, SCOTT WALKERS GOTTA GO!!!
El_Terrible on September 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM
I’ll betcha Dear Leader feels just like the object of Hunpbot’s affections tonight.
a capella on September 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM
CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES–COME ON!!
theotherone on September 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Is it me, or did the robot seem more excited tonight?
hawkdriver on September 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Now the question…uhm…what kind of Republican is Turner? Dare I ask?
SouthernGent on September 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Boom goes the Dy-No-Mite!
gaius on September 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM
HumpBots 2012?
chaswv on September 14, 2011 at 12:16 AM
I was able to break into the New York Times server and snatched tomorrow’s headline:
/
Seven Percent Solution on September 14, 2011 at 12:16 AM
We like to party!
scrubjay on September 14, 2011 at 12:16 AM
Dude.
ScottMcC on September 14, 2011 at 12:16 AM
how’s chuckie schumer feeling right about now
heh
cmsinaz on September 14, 2011 at 12:16 AM
TRUNKS.
Come on guys, do you really think the demrats are going to give up a seat this easily that they have held since 1920? I expect some “overlooked ballots” to be found. Especially if the turnout is low.
csdeven on September 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM
He’s a strong fiscal conservative and staunch Roman Catholic who adopted a boy whose mother died of AIDS, and he put Rush Limbaugh on television.
Any other questions?
KingGold on September 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM
As long as he doesn’t send twitpics of himself, I think he will be an improvement.
txmomof6 on September 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM
Yer harshin’ my mellow.
a capella on September 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM
Thank God and I hope that now that the Jews have figured out Obama and his Israeli hating master Soros…the Blacks won’t be far behind and the Latinos will not get in that line!
CCRWM on September 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM
When was the last time we saw the humpbot(s)?
Did we see him for the midterms? I don’t think we did…
Scott Brown?
Purple Fury on September 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM
..he’s the kind who beat a Dem in a heavily blue Dem NY district. Anything else is just gravy.
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Also, he used gay marriage and the GZ mosque as a cudgel and beat Weprin to a pulp.
He’s a guy after our own heart.
KingGold on September 14, 2011 at 12:18 AM
canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 12:02 AM
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..in light of the upcoming tenor of the prez campaign and the desperation Dems are about to feel after this election, here’s the 2012 theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_t5GPbp5IY
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:05 AM
The War Planner:Precisely,it’ll be thee most vicious in American
Political History,good musical theme btw!:)
canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Sounds good to me!
SouthernGent on September 14, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Looks like I’m late to the party, but…
Woohooo! We might fight amongst ourselves over the small stuff, but we come together when it’s time to party!
Go conservative candidates!
Pattosensei on September 14, 2011 at 12:19 AM
AWESOME!!!
conservative pilgrim on September 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM
We counted it twice – once when we took the House, and once when Charlie Crist went down in flames.
Countered by one bunnymelt – that was for Dingy winning.
KingGold on September 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM
Ahem:
“The Obama Wasserman Schultz White House is pleased to announce the sudden departure of a long term democratic fixture in Queens, NYC; namely one Anthony Weiner. The Wasserman Schultz White House will make a brief statement on Wednesday 9/15/11, after Barack wakes up, eats his peas, gets his briefs put on and stumbles downstairs.
Thank you for your interest in the Big White”
/
Ugh.
Key West Reader on September 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM
New Democrat meme: “The Turner Diaries” is actually Bob Turner’s diary.
Mark1971 on September 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM
How about melting bunny played backward?
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:11 AM
If you listen closely, melting bunny played backwards says “Hail Satan. Hail Satan. Hail Satan.” over and over.
Mark1971 on September 14, 2011 at 12:14 AM
Actually-I’m going to be getting a tattoo for my birthday and I’ve been threatening to make it ‘hail Satan’ just to p*ss off my fundamentalist mother-in-law.
LoL
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM
YEEEAH, Gotta have us some ‘bot!
Sekhmet on September 14, 2011 at 12:20 AM
..I’m not about to back down; how ’bout you? We’re going to the mat on this one. This scum gets flushed!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:21 AM
Woo HOoooo!!!
Let’s party like it’s a Post Obama defeat on Nov 05, 2012!!!!
portlandon on September 14, 2011 at 12:21 AM
Tomorrow’s punditry today:
In the Wisconsin recalls, the Democrats won two seats, one a heavily favorable district, the other following a sex scandal. This was a profoundly important bellwether of the 2012 elections.
In today’s special elections, the Republicans won two seats, one a heavily favorable district, the other following a sex scandal. This was a completely meaningless transitory event.
Fabozz on September 14, 2011 at 12:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk3mAX5xdxo
Paid for by the Committee to Erect David Wu on September 14, 2011 at 12:21 AM
It’s all like a dream…a beautiful dream…(not the gross Humpbot, the elections, I mean!)
cynccook on September 14, 2011 at 12:21 AM
Let’s talk about Green Energy jobs, oh wait…
txmomof6 on September 14, 2011 at 12:22 AM
Schumer is speechless.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz’ hair just got curlier.
Weiner’s wife locked him up in the freezer.
Michelle is having another fit at the U.S. flag-folding tradition.
Obama is indignant.
Axelturd goes on TV and claims victory tomorrow morning.
The Kos rats are scooting on the latrine slush, demanding that Obama get tough, on you rubes.
It’s soooo schadenfreudig.
p.s. crr6 might never come back.
Schadenfreude on September 14, 2011 at 12:23 AM
..exceptionally adroit, old son!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:23 AM
Purple Fury on September 14, 2011 at 12:17 AM
They made an appearance after kloppenschnook finally conceded to Prosser.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:23 AM
canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 12:18 AM
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..I’m not about to back down; how ’bout you? We’re going to the mat on this one. This scum gets flushed!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:21 AM
The War Planner:Amen,full speed ahead,and,Hopey’s deeds,words,
and especially his campaign promises,need to be
used against him!!:)
canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 12:23 AM
Hope Tapper is on his game tomorrow,…I need to see Carney sweat and fidget.
a capella on September 14, 2011 at 12:24 AM
This is good news!..:)
Dire Straits on September 14, 2011 at 12:24 AM
Tis but a scratch. I’ve had worse. Just a flesh wound.
hawkdriver on September 14, 2011 at 12:24 AM
There are not servers big enough, I fear….
txmomof6 on September 14, 2011 at 12:24 AM
I wonder if Rush is going to play this tomorrow or save it for 2012…?
Paolo Conte – Happy Feet
Seven Percent Solution on September 14, 2011 at 12:24 AM
The Tea Party loves it when people die of cancer…
cynccook on September 14, 2011 at 12:25 AM
A Dem candidate hasn’t been this angry at his predecessor’s penis since Al Gore.
Hollowpoint on September 14, 2011 at 12:25 AM
Otay,AWESOMELICIOUS night,I’m out,
going to spend some quality time,
snuffing out Germans,in Call of Duty,
Finest Hour!
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GoodNight to everyone——————————————-:)
canopfor on September 14, 2011 at 12:26 AM
God, I hope so. That was sweet music to my ears after Brown’s win.
KingGold on September 14, 2011 at 12:27 AM
NO Way! Not even then…the phase btw. winning and him actually leaving the WH will be one of the most dangerous.
Party on Jan. 20, 2013.
Schadenfreude on September 14, 2011 at 12:27 AM
Plus, the election is on Nov. 06, 2012.
Schadenfreude on September 14, 2011 at 12:28 AM
I must shower now. Might be back
Sekhmet on September 14, 2011 at 12:28 AM
agree, good tune :)
cmsinaz on September 14, 2011 at 12:28 AM
He’s gonna be like one from a solid red state.
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ladyingray on September 14, 2011 at 12:28 AM
I am hoping that Barry will not pull a LBJ, he needs to be crushed and totally repudiated in 11/12, to remain as a cautionary footnote for the country alongside Jimmie Carter.
bayview on September 14, 2011 at 12:28 AM
indeed…ugh
cmsinaz on September 14, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Don’t speak so quickly. Refer to my previous comments. We won the frickin’ lottery with this guy.
KingGold on September 14, 2011 at 12:30 AM
g’nite canopfor :)
cmsinaz on September 14, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Yep. This is only a bell weather if he is a strict Tea Party type rep.
csdeven on September 14, 2011 at 12:32 AM
..FIFY!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:35 AM
Mh, I wonder how Dave Rywall takes all this.
Schadenfreude on September 14, 2011 at 12:36 AM
Now, then. When does Dummy Washerman-Schultz come up for re-election?
cynccook on September 14, 2011 at 12:37 AM
I just read that Turner is the first Republican to win NY 9 in…NINETY years!!!
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:37 AM
i’m out like a light myself…
y’all stay cool
cmsinaz on September 14, 2011 at 12:37 AM
..hell, let’s start the party tonight and keep ‘er going for another 14 months!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:37 AM
Now the question…uhm…what kind of Republican is Turner? Dare I ask?
SouthernGent on September 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM
A victorious one.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:37 AM
lol @ the humpbot.
outstanding.
rickyricardo on September 14, 2011 at 12:38 AM
..goodnight, old son. Thanks for the posts!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:38 AM
Yahoo!
My son lived in Berkeley election night 2008, right along Shattuck Avenue, a block from campus. People took to the streets when the results came in, whoopin’ and hollerin’ and banging pans and smoking pot. I am beginning to hope we’ll have our revenge election night next year.
Bob's Kid on September 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM
..and hello and goodnight to you too, young lady!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM
Not a good enough qualification.
portlandon on September 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM
My point is the GOP won the seat.
The rest, be damned!!!
ladyingray on September 14, 2011 at 12:40 AM
Nine. Teen. Twenty. Two.
That’s when a Republican last represented this district. Take NY-23 and shove it, Donks.
KingGold on September 14, 2011 at 12:40 AM
..and hello and goodnight to you too, young lady!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM
Thank you, Sir! Sweet dreams to you as well.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:41 AM
Maxine will call New Yorkers racists.
Schadenfreude on September 14, 2011 at 12:41 AM
Regardless of the specialness of this district, shouldn’t the Dem have won on the strength of a “do nothing congress”?
Big trouble for Obambi.
mockmook on September 14, 2011 at 12:41 AM
2012. Just like all members of the House…
ladyingray on September 14, 2011 at 12:42 AM
YES!!!!!
Kataklysmic on September 14, 2011 at 12:42 AM
From the hood, eh?
Key West Reader on September 14, 2011 at 12:43 AM
Yahoo!
My son lived in Berkeley election night 2008, right along Shattuck Avenue, a block from campus. People took to the streets when the results came in, whoopin’ and hollerin’ and banging pans and smoking pot. I am beginning to hope we’ll have our revenge election night next year.
Bob’s Kid on September 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM
We lived in Islamabad On the Lake-I mean the West Rogers Park area of Chicago. I had just got home from a 20 hour day working as an election judge in an uber-muslim precinct and the fireworks started going off. People were running out into the street shouting hallelujah and the like while I was in our bedroom-sobbing.
Payback is going to be sweet.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Bob’s Kid on September 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM
Nov. 5, 2012, you bring the pot, I’ll bring the pans.
El_Terrible on September 14, 2011 at 12:45 AM
How about a Texas Rose or Texas Bluebonnet instead?
karenhasfreedom on September 14, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Schad…
… My rage is unmeasurable.
Seven Percent Solution on September 14, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Great job folks. Two stable Republican men, untethered to the fickle whim and whimsy of their unpredictable hormones like female Republican candidates, have added to the wave that will sweep us to victory in 2012.
Barack Obama is toast if Romney or Perry are nominated.
rickyricardo on September 14, 2011 at 12:46 AM
His/her internet identity was a house of cards that was probably getting too difficult to sustain.
slickwillie2001 on September 14, 2011 at 12:46 AM
Suck it, Bammy.
Cicero43 on September 14, 2011 at 12:46 AM
Hey. Ant-knee. Eat this, punk.
Woot! I swear I had such contempt for this klown going to school with him; thanks to the poster above. Eat it, Ant-Knee. Eat it.
Key West Reader on September 14, 2011 at 12:48 AM
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Bob’s Kid on September 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM
I was in class on election night…. Oy. My heart was broken as 90% of my classmates were wiggling in their seats in joy. Ohio went blue. It was blue :’(
El_Terrible on September 14, 2011 at 12:49 AM
How about a Texas Rose or Texas Bluebonnet instead?
karenhasfreedom on September 14, 2011 at 12:45 AM
I’m getting whatever on my left wrist-I’m a southpaw so my watch is on my right one-and I was thinking of getting a permanent bracelet or maybe something that looks like it’s henna.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 14, 2011 at 12:49 AM
Nourish me with your tears, Barry.
Ronnie on September 14, 2011 at 12:49 AM
Lissen up! Before I fold it up for the night, Drudge cites an Obama “Attack Watch” web site for those out oh-so-terrible, hurtful things people are saying about The Light Bringer can be reported:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/signup/o2012-attackwatch-report-an-attack
I say we shut it down!
The War Planner on September 14, 2011 at 12:50 AM
Oh hell yeah. Welcome to the party NY9!
Kenosha Kid on September 14, 2011 at 12:52 AM
Maxine
Key West Reader on September 14, 2011 at 12:52 AM
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