Texas loses 500 energy-related jobs due to EPA regulation

posted at 2:45 pm on September 12, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama demanded that Congress act immediately to pass his jobs bill, even though the White House hasn’t yet delivered it, because Americans can’t wait for 14 months to get back to work.  That’s certainly true for Luminant employees in Texas.  The energy firm will have to close several facilities and lay off hundreds of workers — not because Congress hasn’t passed a jobs bill, but because Obama’s EPA has made it impossible to continue operations:

Texas energy company Luminant announced on Monday new burdensome Environmental Protection Agency regulations are forcing it to close several facilities, which will result in about 500 job losses.

The company will be idling — stopping the usage of — two energy generating units. It will also cease extracting lignite from three different Texas mines.

The EPA regulation Luminant cites as too burdensome is the new Cross-State Air Pollution rule, which requires Texas power generators to make “dramatic reductions” in emissions beginning on January 1, 2012. …

The company said it has been trying to meet the new standards, but won’t be able to do so without closing down several facilities and eliminating 500 jobs.

Gee, you think this might come up in tonight’s debate?  Republicans snatched a draw from the jaws of victory when they convinced Obama to move his jobs speech from Wednesday before the debate to Thursday, but tonight’s CNN debate gives all of the candidates a fresh chance to attack Obama on jobs and his new plan.  Rick Perry will almost certainly bring up Luminant as an example of the kind of regulatory attacks on his state that he has fought since Obama took office, as well as to discredit Obamas’ direction on economic growth and job creation.

In looking at CNN’s poll, which was conducted to give maximum promotion to the debate tonight, Perry didn’t do any harm to himself in last Wednesday’s debate.  In order to maintain his momentum, Perry will have to follow up on two specific issues, and one general impression.  First, he has to offer a framework for Social Security reform.  Michele Bachmann and Mitt Romney are licking their chops on this issue, but as the poll shows, Perry didn’t damage his support with his blunt response last week.  However, he needs to follow that blunt talk up with some solutions, one that will convince people that he plans to protect those who have no time to adjust their retirement plans after a lifetime of contributions to the system.

Second, Perry has to do better on climate-change questions.  The EPA issue plays directly into that.  His meandering response on Wednesday seemed curious and alarming for a man who has repeatedly challenged the context of the so-called “consensus” on AGW.  He needs to be more confident and clear tonight.  Third, Perry needs to improve his delivery a bit and eliminate the pauses as he searches for a correct word or phrase.  Delivery counts, and Romney is a pro at debate delivery.

For Romney, he needs to emphasize that he brings solutions to the table.  Given the lack of traction that his attacks on Perry’s remarks have gained thus far, he needs to contrast himself in a positive rather than negative manner to the Texas governor.  Tim Pawlenty gave a big hint to that strategy in his endorsement remarks today by staying away from the Social Security question and focusing instead on Romney’s private-sector expertise and his record of rescuing failing enterprises.  That plays into entitlement reform, too, but going in that direction won’t lose conservatives who want some tough, blunt talk on entitlements — and besides, Romney is much better at being the positive, steady hand than he is at being an attack dog.

Bachmann’s debate performance last week was inexplicable.  She never contrasted herself from the other candidates on the stage in any meaningful sense, and she has nothing left to lose by doing so.  She can call Perry out on the “Ponzi scheme” rhetoric, but she herself isn’t exactly a stranger to heated and blunt talk.  That’s a potential minefield for Bachmann as it is for the other House candidates on stage, because both Perry and Romney can challenge Bachmann on why she hasn’t written a bill herself reforming Social Security as a member of Congress.  Neither man really needs to get into an accomplishment challenge with Bachmann like Pawlenty did, but it’s a fair question if Bachmann starts challenging Perry on not having a reform plan at the ready now.

The rest of the candidates will be a sideshow in tonight’s debate, but it will be interesting to see whether Newt Gingrich attacks the moderators again for the third straight debate.  Expect the big topic tonight to be jobs, rather than Social Security or evolution or submission to spouses, as various Tea Party groups will co-moderate the panel — and a focus on jobs should help Perry more than anyone else on stage.

Update: I should note that Rick Perry will still have to answer for this language comparing Social Security to a criminal enterprise:

“Let’s look at what would happen if someone in the private sector did a similar thing. Suppose two grandparents created a trust fund, appointed a bank as trustee, and instructed the bank to invest the proceeds of the trust fund so as to provide for their grandchildren’s education. Suppose further that the bank used the proceeds for its own purposes, so that when the grandchildren turned eighteen, there was no money for them to go to college. What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.”

Oh, wait, pardon me — Perry didn’t write that.  Mitt Romney did — last year, in his book No Apology (via Andy McCarthy).

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It’s OK, since Texas is a red state.

Oil Can on September 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Oh, wait, pardon me — Perry didn’t write that. Mitt Romney did — last year, in his book No Apology (via Andy McCarthy).

SNORT

Go Perry – I hope he has a SS answer primed and ready to go tonight.

gophergirl on September 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Did he actually use the term “criminal enterprise” because unless he did, old people won’t be offended at being called part of a Ponzi scheme. Or at least that’s what I’m being told here at HotAir. Old people are insulted and scared and apparently stupid so start blowing smoke up their butts and make it snappy.

Cindy Munford on September 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

What this country needs is more cowbell Mittens!

VelvetElvis on September 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM

The company will be idling — stopping the usage of — two energy generating units. It will also cease extracting lignite from three different Texas mines.

Obama, 2008: The cost of coal-fired electricity will skyrocket.

He kept his promise…

Steve Z on September 12, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Delivery counts, and Romney is a pro at debate delivery.

So saying,”and, and, and…” rapidly is better than a brief pause? OK……

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 2:56 PM

In this 1960 Supreme Court decision [Flemming vs. Nestor] Nestor’s denial of benefits was upheld even though he had contributed to the program for 19 years and was already receiving benefits. Under a 1954 law, Social Security benefits were denied to persons deported for, among other things, having been a member of the Communist party. Accordingly, Mr. Nestor’s benefits were terminated. He appealed the termination arguing, among other claims, that promised Social Security benefits were a contract and that Congress could not renege on that contract. In its ruling, the Court rejected this argument and established the principle that entitlement to Social Security benefits is not contractual right.

J_Crater on September 12, 2011 at 2:57 PM

You have to do Obama math.

500 Rednecks in TX unemployed < 1 union construction worker hired to dig a ditch in Michigan.

In Obama world this is an acceptable trade off.

angryed on September 12, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Listen to Ed, gov. Perry……

cmsinaz on September 12, 2011 at 2:58 PM

These are private sector jobs. They don’t count. Only government jobs matter to The Whine.

rbj on September 12, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Sorry, I’m totally ignorant about this debate. It is tonight, on CNN and will actually have real questions about events concerning us all??

Mord on September 12, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Did he actually use the term “criminal enterprise” because unless he did, old people won’t be offended at being called part of a Ponzi scheme. Or at least that’s what I’m being told here at HotAir. Old people are insulted and scared and apparently stupid so start blowing smoke up their butts and make it snappy.

Cindy Munford on September 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

That’s right, little girl and don’t you whippersnappers go messin’ with our comfort zone and make us vote democrat again, dadgummit!

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 3:00 PM

FLASH!

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal endorses Rick Perry! Take that, T-Paw!

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM

FLASH!

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal endorses Rick Perry! Take that, T-Paw!

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM

They were teasing about a special guest on Facebook over the weekend. Guess this is who they meant.

I’m not surprised but am very glad he’s doing this as early as he is. Should help matters along.

gophergirl on September 12, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Everyone should pounce on this besides Perry…..this is dear leaders economy

cmsinaz on September 12, 2011 at 3:04 PM

ERCOT has been threatening rolling blackouts for two months here in Texas due to high electricity demands, and you’re telling me Barry’s people are shutting down two generating plants?

Absolutely insane!

txsurveyor on September 12, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Come on people! It’s only five hundred jobs. We have millions of people unemployed. Just think how much cleaner the air will be in neighboring states because of these regulations.

Skandia Recluse on September 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Jindal > tpaw

IMHO

cmsinaz on September 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Can I bill the EPA for food lost due to rolling blackouts?
I didn’t think so.

tomg51 on September 12, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Obama hates Texas, but we hated him first.

kg598301 on September 12, 2011 at 3:07 PM

Obama hates Texas, but we hated him first.

kg598301 on September 12, 2011 at 3:07 PM

Amen to that

tomg51 on September 12, 2011 at 3:09 PM

The American Jobs Act is a Ponzi scheme

faraway on September 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM

We the people of Texas, should get a good lawyer, and sue the pants off of Obama, and the EPA for this.

capejasmine on September 12, 2011 at 3:12 PM

kg598301 on September 12, 2011 at 3:07 PM

Darlin, you told it like it is! I ha!e bho and his whole slimy team. He has and is trying to crater TX along with all red states who won’t vote for him.
L

letget on September 12, 2011 at 3:12 PM

sue the pants off of Obama

well creased pants

faraway on September 12, 2011 at 3:14 PM

BREAKING: Obama Seeks to Raise Taxes on Oil Companies to Pay for Jobs Plan

…who’ll pass those taxes onto ALL Americans at the gas pump.

Congress needs to pass a POTUS Economic Literacy Act.

Nobody this stupid should be qualified to take the oath of office.

Terp Mole on September 12, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Obama is lost

J_Crater on September 12, 2011 at 3:15 PM

That’ll teach Perry -mere mortal – to mess with a Chicago Messiah.

Message to Perry: Messiah types don’t just get even -they destroy!

Don L on September 12, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Jindal > tpaw

IMHO

cmsinaz on September 12, 2011

By an order of magnitude! (if only there were larger arrows on the keyboard).

JonPrichard on September 12, 2011 at 3:19 PM

What if they just refused to comply , as Obama does with federal judges?What an image for an election -Obama troops shutting down energy sources.

Sarah, the energy president, would roll him up for grizzly bait-figuratively speaking of course.

Don L on September 12, 2011 at 3:20 PM

:) JP

cmsinaz on September 12, 2011 at 3:21 PM

OK, So we’re losing some coal-fired electricity in Texas. At least we have all that wonderful wind power to make up for it. Right?

From the article:

As I wrote in these pages earlier this month, Texas has 10,135 megawatts of installed wind-generation capacity, which is nearly three times as much as any other state. And yet, on Wednesday, all of the state’s wind turbines mustered just 880 megawatts of power when electricity was needed the most. Put another way, even though wind turbines account for about 10 percent of Texas’s 103,000 megawatts of summer electricity-generation capacity, wind energy was able to provide just 1.3 percent of the juice the state needed on Wednesday afternoon to keep the lights on and the air conditioners humming.

iurockhead on September 12, 2011 at 3:23 PM

And Obama’s goons believe he can win Texas…with what, spitballs?

Yes, yes, recall Zell Miller, in different context.

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Might the issue be framed as one of payback by the white house for Perry’s threatening to secede?

Don L on September 12, 2011 at 3:26 PM

You gotta fight for your right to pollute!

Constantine on September 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM

So, how was Obama’s latest unemployment speech today anyway?

forest on September 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Did he actually use the term “criminal enterprise” because unless he did, old people won’t be offended at being called part of a Ponzi scheme. Or at least that’s what I’m being told here at HotAir. Old people are insulted and scared and apparently stupid so start blowing smoke up their butts and make it snappy.

Cindy Munford on September 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

LOL, Guess the Seniors can’t add or subtract:-)

Rush actually said this on his show today. Romney said S.S. was a fraudulent, criminal enterprise in his “No Apology” Book. I wrote it down as Rush was saying it:-)

Sort of hypocritical, I’d say.

bluefox on September 12, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Never in the history of our country has a president and his administration declared war on so many states and millions of small businessmen who are the backbone of our nation. He is either totally corrupt or completely incompetent because there is no doubt this is being done on purpose. No doubt whatsoever.

volsense on September 12, 2011 at 3:32 PM

FLASH!

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal endorses Rick Perry! Take that, T-Paw!

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Thanks!! That’s better than 2 Pawlenty’s:-)

bluefox on September 12, 2011 at 3:33 PM

ERCOT has been threatening rolling blackouts for two months here in Texas due to high electricity demands, and you’re telling me Barry’s people are shutting down two generating plants?

Absolutely insane!

txsurveyor on September 12, 2011 at 3:05 PM

The lights are going out. Just like in the final pages of Atlas Shrugged.

UltimateBob on September 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM

ERCOT has been threatening rolling blackouts for two months here in Texas due to high electricity demands, and you’re telling me Barry’s people are shutting down two generating plants?

Absolutely insane!

txsurveyor on September 12, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Yes it is insane, but vindictive. How many blue states is the Admin. & the EPA targeting?

bluefox on September 12, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Romney is so fake he will just come up with some mumbling crap about how his version was not at all like what Perry said while then repeating the exact same language. Just like he did with Obamacare.

We need a rock rib hardcore not some fluttering piece of plastic. Radical major moves to deregulate, CUT CUT CUT SLASH END gov programs, free the people and business so we can again proper, invent, and grow. Industry saving money by going half way around the world instead of opening factories here in the states is a absolute disgrace produced by over regulation, bureaucratic red tape, and general intrusive taxing.

C-Low on September 12, 2011 at 3:36 PM

kg598301 on September 12, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Darlin, you told it like it is! I ha!e bho and his whole slimy team. He has and is trying to crater TX along with all red states who won’t vote for him.
L

letget on September 12, 2011 at 3:12 PM

That is the truth!!

bluefox on September 12, 2011 at 3:38 PM

That’ll teach Perry -mere mortal – to mess with a Chicago Messiah.

Message to Perry: Messiah types don’t just get even -they destroy!

Don L on September 12, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Well, Imposters don’t have the final Word:-)

bluefox on September 12, 2011 at 3:40 PM

BREAKING: Obama Seeks to Raise Taxes on Oil Companies to Pay for Jobs Plan

…who’ll pass those taxes onto ALL Americans at the gas pump.

Just when I thought he couldn’t get any dumber.

Boy am I glad I didn’t send any of my sons to Harvard.

fogw on September 12, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Goody!
Now Houston’s mayor won’t buy those electric cars, right?
Right???

tomg51 on September 12, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Obama intends to reduce Texas and the U.S. into a third world sh!thole. If you think businesses are suffering now, wait until there are daily rolling blackouts. If the electricity is unreliable and unpredictable, I believe you will see many business go under.

txsurveyor on September 12, 2011 at 3:47 PM

You gotta fight for your right to pollute!

Constantine on September 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Well hell, everyone knows that arbitrary and oppressive regulation over any enterprise with the nerve to provide both a service to the public and employment to her citizens is FAR more important than people being allowed to make a living, or God forbid, a profit. We have to protect THE ENVIRONMENT!!

I wonder what THE ENVIRONMENT would look like if everyone was broke, hungry, and homeless.

CantCureStupid on September 12, 2011 at 3:50 PM

You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.

They — you — you can already see what the arguments will be during the general election. People will say, “Ah, Obama and Al Gore, these folks, they’re going to destroy the economy, this is going to cost us eight trillion dollars,” or whatever their number is. Um, if you can’t persuade the American people that yes, there is going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term, because of combinations of more efficient energy usage, changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliance, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, the economy would benefit.

I’m sick of hearing all the whining about Obozo’s energy plans, massive regulations and stagnant economy. It’s not as if he didn’t say EXACTLY what he would do if elected.

You guys should have been using those mercury light bulbs for more than 2 years now.

KMC1 on September 12, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Perry still needs to answer for his open borders stance.

ConservativePartyNow on September 12, 2011 at 3:54 PM

TOO many debates!

People will tune out.

golfmann on September 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM

golfmann on September 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM

I agree, I haven’t watched one yet. Just get what was said on Fox and HA. Gotta read all the news on those running also.
L

letget on September 12, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Cindy Munford on September 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM

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Get off my lawn !!! Unless you have beer for me…

ExpressoBold on September 12, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Republicans and conservative groups should document all the jobs Obama has killed. So far he’s killed jobs in the oil drilling, coal mining, electricity production industries, just by my observation. I know there’s many more industries he’s hurt, but I’m not getting paid to document them.

OxyCon on September 12, 2011 at 4:03 PM

If people would pull their heads out of their butts, instead of giving the usual knee-jerk reaction, they would see that Perry isn’t looking to abolish SS for current recipients, but reform it for those paying into it now, because they surely (myself included) won’t get any of it back. At the same time allowing people to opt out, which I would do in a heartbeat. He should blow off the repeated attacks, and tell the others to get a clue and figure it out for themselves. Next, move on to the priority of jobs, and hammer Obozo over and over about his refusal to allow any kind of oil exploration or drilling, which could instantly create 500k to 1 million jobs, and new exploration would yield even more. It’s not rocket science…

stacman on September 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM

TOO many debates!

People will tune out.

golfmann on September 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM

I agree, but I think within the next 1-2 the field will be narrowed down to two, and the rest can go home…

stacman on September 12, 2011 at 4:09 PM

[Perry's]…open borders stance.

ConservativePartyNow on September 12, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Which doesn’t exist, unless your real issue in the matter is keepin’ the damn Meskins out.

In which case, go right ahead and supply the Democrats with talking points in the eventual election — whoever the Republican nominee may be. I’m sure Axelrod will send you a nice thank-you note.

Regards,
Ric

warlocketx on September 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Obama and the EPA don’t care. It’s not like it’s a “Blue” state or anything.

GarandFan on September 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Perry has to memorize the names of climate scientists in order to make the “journolists” happy. Then, he must know the name of every obscure head of state or dictator around the globe. The media don’t care about issues, they just want to make R candidates look inept.
Like anyone really gives a shit the name of the 2nd vice general in Tuvalu.

lonestar1 on September 12, 2011 at 4:26 PM

If only pollution site bubbles were expanded to be for all of the US.
In case the blue states haven’t noticed, we (TX) produce and pollute so you don’t have to.

tomg51 on September 12, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Obama and the EPA don’t care. It’s not like it’s a “Blue” state or anything.

GarandFan on September 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM

That is the reason Texas is being targeted and most other red states will follow.

Too bad the voters believed a lie in 2008 and those that didn’t have to suffer.

I only hope they are not ready to support another liar(s) on the R ticket this time. Finding a lot of “Conservatives” & “Republicans” supporting the left talking points etc that some Candidiates are spouting. They don’t seem to realize there is a reason that the W.H./Media/Rove attacked Palin and now Perry. I only hear crickets from that group on Romney and the other Candidates.

bluefox on September 12, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Like anyone really gives a shit the name of the 2nd vice general in Tuvalu.

lonestar1 on September 12, 2011 at 4:26 PM

You are right, that’s all it is about. There doesn’t need to be a debate every week either. I’d decline and campaign. You don’t see Sarah giving them the time of day, even tho she isn’t a Candidate yet. I doubt even if she was, she’d be at their beck & call.

bluefox on September 12, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Terrific video.

“IHS Global Insight published a 277 page study quantifying the opportunity for job creation and GDP growth in the United States. OMSA distilled that info into a 4-minute video.”

OMSA: Offshore Drilling Creates American Jobs

“Clear the bureaucratic gridlock and industry will create 230,000 jobs by 2012.”

It’s obvious Obama has no interest in creating jobs.

INC on September 12, 2011 at 5:02 PM

From Power Line:

Want More Jobs? The Low-Hanging Fruit Is Energy

They’re not talking green, either!

INC on September 12, 2011 at 5:05 PM

It’s OK, since Texas is a red state.

Oil Can on September 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Yeah, Obama hates our guts, because we didn’t vote for his sorry a$$ in 2008. That’s okay; we’re going to have the last laugh.

Ward Cleaver on September 12, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Obama has to target the oil and energy companies to get our job numbers down. He cannot compete with Rick Perry on the economy so he will continue to use the EPA and the Dept. of Interior to destroy jobs here in Texas so he can point to our ‘failing economy’ of which he himself created.

Actually, 500 jobs is only the first round of Luminant employees that will be laid off. With this initial layoff you also must factor in the support staff. Luminant relies heavily on Fluor and other major contractors to maintain the plants, usually at a 2 to 1 ratio, so this layoff is affecting more like 1500.

libertylady on September 12, 2011 at 5:09 PM

By the way, there’s nothing about this on the Dallas Morning News site. Instead, this headline, in the “Perry Watch” section (requires their rip-off subscription deal to read):

Perry’s warning of Texas job losses from EPA action fell flat

Ward Cleaver on September 12, 2011 at 5:21 PM

J_Crater on September 12, 2011 at 2:57 PM

+1000

unclesmrgol on September 12, 2011 at 5:49 PM

You guys sure you want to go to the mat for Luminant? Not exactly a free market corp. Lots of corps out there buying off energy assets and than using their paid off cronies for “extra” access.

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Sweeper, please name names. Allegations are easy.

Luminant is a corporation with a bottom line. Put me in a room with a dozen Luminant execs and a dozen of Obama and his goons. Guess which one will assault my character then empty my pockets???

libertylady on September 12, 2011 at 6:11 PM

I mean really, this is an unholy matrimony between KKR and Goldman Sachs. The 500 workers that they present to you means no more to them than it does to Obama. If they could profit from the burning of puppies they would do so. We might want to ask if Luminant has engaged in any “less than market friendly” activities themselves, before portraying them as the victim.
Enemy of my enemy might work in war, but this is a more “lay down with dogs” situation

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Luminant is a corporation with a bottom line. Put me in a room with a dozen Luminant execs and a dozen of Obama and his goons. Guess which one will assault my character then empty my pockets???

One would assualt your character, the other would charm you into believing they are with you. Both would slit your throat and empty your wallet. Doesn’t matter to them.

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 6:15 PM

There is no such thing as Luminant and everyone in the energy field knows this. They are one of many banking front companies.

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Just for clarification; I am not defending the Obama administration.

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 6:18 PM

Sweeper, the laid off employees ARE victims to this Administration’s left-wing ideology.

Burning puppies? Honestly? Geez.

libertylady on September 12, 2011 at 6:25 PM

One last note; While I respect and admire the parent company’s Advisory Chairman, it kinda take this into a political, rather than a practical discussion. (sorry for the run on sentence)

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Luminant may be held by a holding company, however, there are THOUSANDS of dedicated hard working men and women that work very hard every day to keep your lights and air conditioning on.

libertylady on September 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM

libertylady on September 12, 2011 at 6:28 PM

As do I. I have said nothing negative about the hard working men and women.

But I’ve said nothing positive about the lobby fronting management who do exactly what they are complainging about now. If there is an energy crunch, we need to look into TXU’s role of squelching competition.

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Sweeper, the laid off employees ARE victims to this Administration’s left-wing ideology.

Burning puppies? Honestly? Geez.

libertylady on September 12, 2011 at 6:25 PM

Yet when they shut down less poluting but more expensive unit, i don’t remember any claims of victimization.

The reason they gave for shutting down the gas fired units was “over capacity”.

sweeper on September 12, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Sweeper, the gas plants were running at a loss. When natural gas is more than $4 per mmbtu, units were operating at a loss so therefore they WERE shut down as an economic decision. Again, Luminant is a corporation with a bottom line. Companies cannot act like the government and operate at a loss.

I agree having Baker as the Advisory Chairman is political. BTW,I am not a fan of his. His high dollar clout hasn’t really helped Luminant, has it? I agree it is crony capitalism but it is an egg before the chicken analogy. If government regulations weren’t so far-reaching, then perhaps the need for expensive lobbyist wouldn’t be so great.

libertylady on September 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM