CNN poll shows Perry the man to beat in GOP race

posted at 10:45 am on September 12, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Despite all of the handwringing over Rick Perry’s response on Social Security, a new CNN poll shows him maintaining a double-digit lead over Mitt Romney.  Not only does Perry lead 30-18, but his electability numbers haven’t declined since defending his earlier “Ponzi scheme” remarks.  In fact, his electability quotient has risen since the last debate (via Gabriel Malor at AoSHQ):

The survey, released Monday morning, indicates that 30 percent of Republicans and independents who lean toward the GOP support Perry for their party’s nomination, with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 18 percent. Romney, who’s making his second bid for the White House, had been leading the list of Republican candidates in the national polls, but since Perry launched his campaign a month ago he’s jumped ahead of Romney to capture the top spot. …

“Perry doesn’t simply have the most support in a hypothetical ballot – he also tops the list of GOP candidates on every personal quality tested,” adds Holland.

Thirty-six percent, for example, see him as the strongest leader in the field, with Romney second at 21 percent. According to the poll, 35 percent say Perry is the Republican candidate most likely to get the economy moving again, with Romney in second at 26 percent.

Nearly three in ten say that Perry is the candidate who is most likely to fight for his beliefs, with Palin in second place at 23 percent and, significantly, Romney in a distant tie for fourth at just 11 percent.

But Perry’s biggest strength may be the electability factor, with 42 percent saying he has the best chance of beating Obama next year. Some 26 percent say Romney has the best chance of defeating the president.

This poll also shows Bachmann dropping far into the second tier, with only 4% supporting her.  Palin comes in third at 15%, but taking Palin out doesn’t help Bachmann much; she only picks up 3 points to 7%.  Romney adds the same to his support without Palin, while Perry adds two points.

More to the point, Perry leads the enthusiasm race, with 35% pronouncing themselves “enthusiastic” if Perry won the nomination.  Only 27% would feel the same way about Romney, and 23% about Palin.  Romney wins the “pleased but not enthusiastic” category with 49%, but Perry gets 42% here as well , while Bachmann scores 17% and 40%, respectively.  When it comes to identifying which candidate agrees with voters the most, Perry has a 9-point lead over Palin, 26/17, with Romney barely edging Ron Paul for third place, 15/14.  Bachmann comes in at 8% and fifth place.

Perry wins in other key categories as well.  He outscores Romney by 15 points on leadership, 36% to 21%, with Palin third at 14%.  Perry also edges Palin on likeability, 25/22, with Romney a close third at 21%.  But as CNN notes, Perry creams Romney on electability against Obama by 42/26, easily outperforming his support at this moment.  No one else is in double digits; Palin gets 7%, while the rest of the field comes in at 5% or less.

If Romney and Bachmann think that by attacking Perry on Social Security they can make a case for leadership in an era of reform, well, they could be right — but they may find their Social-Security-is-OK argument backfiring with an electorate that has clearly awoken to the fiscal trainwreck coming from entitlement programs.  If Perry can successfully offer a framework for real reform in Social Security in this debate, he may wind up in control of the race.  I’ll have more on that later today.

Update: Byron York notices that older voters seem to appreciate some blunt talk about Social Security, too:

In a new CNN poll that finds Perry at the front of the Republican pack, the Texas governor’s lead among GOP voters age 65 and older is actually bigger than his lead among younger voters. Fifty-two percent of respondents over 65 say Perry is their choice for president, versus just 21 percent who choose Romney.  In the overall numbers, Perry leads Romney 32 percent to 21 percent, with Ron Paul following at 13 percent, Bachmann and Gingrich at seven percent each, Herman Cain at six percent, and Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum at two percent each.

Republican voters over 65 also believe Perry has the best chance of defeating President Obama in next year’s general election.  Perry leads Romney 58 percent to 22 percent among older voters on that question.

Breaking down the age results in different categories, Perry leads Romney by 24 percent to 19 percent among GOP voters under 50.  Among GOP voters 50 and older, Perry leads Romney by 41 percent to 22 percent.

When asked to choose between leadership and pandering, most people will choose leadership.

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Rick Perry new king of the Polls !

William Amos on September 12, 2011 at 10:48 AM

Despite all of the handwringing over Rick Perry’s response on Social Security, a new CNN poll shows him maintaining a double-digit lead over Mitt Romney.

What do you know, all that Straight Talk worked out okay.

Chip on September 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Gene Simmons said Perry would be the next president.

Social Security isn’t the third rail anymore. People understand that in tough economic times sacrifices are needed. It’d be nice to see politicians make the same realization.

Iblis on September 12, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Romney needs to go away.

Rubio, Ron Johnson, & several others won in 2010 with an honest message.

tetriskid on September 12, 2011 at 10:51 AM

check out page 9, huge lead in the 50-64 and 65+ categories. guess they arent taking the scarebait from romney and bachman

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM

CUDA!

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM

I wrote here that this poll is disastrous because Mitt’s statistically tied with someone who isn’t even in the race. To me, that’s stunning, possibly moreso than Romney’s electability argument being demolished.

LFRGary on September 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Wrong – Perry might be the man to win – Romney is the man to beat (please)!

jake-the-goose on September 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Turner is being smashed by Weprin on entitlements.

And Turner is in the lead, in a solid D district.

Why?

artist on September 12, 2011 at 10:54 AM

I’m surprised it’s this close.

Romney’s support includes the Chamber of Commerce and K Street types, along with the mindless group who thinks that the 1990s and early 2000s strategy of running to the middle is today’s political paradigm.

It isn’t.

It is for Mitt.

It is for Karl Rove, TPaw and some other political Lilliputians, but it isn’t today’s political dynamic.

The electorate wants to vote for someone who is the opposite of Obama – not someone who is a little less bad than Obama.

Look for Mitt to fall off into oblivion soon or, if he is already, there, for the polls to start picking up on it.

molonlabe28 on September 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM

:)

Here’s hoping he kicks some RINO backside tonight as well.

gophergirl on September 12, 2011 at 10:55 AM

Gene Simmons said Perry would be the next president.
Iblis on September 12, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Gene Simmons voted for Obama, so maybe he’s on to something.

Dongemaharu on September 12, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Perry pulls into a big lead over Romney in what? 3 weeks?

Imagine what Palin’s numbers will be 3 weeks after she announces.

huckleberryfriend on September 12, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Despite all the concentration on knocking Palin down and convincing everyone Palin won’t run, she is still in a strong position to start from.

I thought Bachmann had stolen Palin’s thunder.

I guess that wasn’t exactly the truth, but more agenda driven meme building.

The next 6-8 weeks is when things get really interesting as people settle back into their routines after the summer vacations are over and the kids are settled back into school and college.

Let’s get it on!

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Well, heck. It was my GRANDPA that first pointed out to me that social security was a scam.

bitsy on September 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM

You can see it in Mitt’s face how he thinks Tea Partiers are a bunch of hillbilly rednecks.
He ain’t fooling anyone.

NeoKong on September 12, 2011 at 11:02 AM

When asked to choose between leadership and pandering, most people will choose leadership.

Gee, who woulda thunk it? I can’t wait to see Mittens try to backtrack on the Mediscare stuff.

Doughboy on September 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM

I’m sorry but it strikes me as more than passing strange that pretty much the same people who told me Fannie and Freddie were fine are the same people telling me Perry is wrong on SS and they are right ….. * SRUG * just saying

Aggie95 on September 12, 2011 at 11:05 AM

Update: Byron York notices that older voters seem to appreciate some blunt talk about Social Security, too:

Well, that’s because they’ll get their money (as they should). My generation on down, though, will get kicked in the gonads unless it’s fixed. It’s patently criminal.

SouthernGent on September 12, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Gig’em!

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 11:09 AM

From headlines:

Not sure why, but CNN/Opinion Research incorrectly reports the results of their last survey (8/24 – 8/25) in the results of their current survey (9/9 – 9/11). Here are the correct numbers:

Candidate / September / August / Change

Perry / 30 / 27 / +3
Romney / 18 / 14 / +4
Palin / 15 / 10 / +5

Paul / 12 / 6 / +6
Cain / 5 / 2 / +3
Gingrich / 5 / 6 / -1
Bachmann / 4 / 9 / -5
Santorum / 2 / 1 / +1
Huntsman / 2 / 1 / +1

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 10:30 AM

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 11:10 AM

You can see it in Mitt’s face how he thinks Tea Partiers are a bunch of hillbilly rednecks.
He ain’t fooling anyone.

NeoKong on September 12, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Well, Romney is a dumbass cult member.

tetriskid on September 12, 2011 at 11:12 AM

But Perry’s biggest strength may be the electability factor, with 42 percent saying he has the best chance of beating Obama next year.

This is the big one. People are putting faith in him to make Obama a one-termer. This number should grow when Obama starts screaming out his flat, hollow campaign slogans.

sherry on September 12, 2011 at 11:12 AM

Imagine what Palin’s numbers will be 3 weeks after she announces.

huckleberryfriend on September 12, 2011 at 10:58 AM

When make-believe is all you have, you go with it.

My prediction is that if she doesn’t announce, her support will remain steady right through the convention, on the assumption that it’s all part of her perfect plan.

TexasDan on September 12, 2011 at 11:13 AM

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Here are the original results of the August 24-25 polling, as reported in August.

The September 9-11 poll results not only misstate the August 24-25 numbers, but also the August 5-7 and July 18-20 numbers. Not sure what’s up with that.

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Palin comes in third at 15%, but taking Palin out doesn’t help Bachmann much; she only picks up 3 points to 7%. Romney adds the same to his support without Palin, while Perry adds two points.

Evidence that Palin’s entry would hurt Romney more than it would hurt Perry?

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Turner is being smashed by Weprin on entitlements.

And Turner is in the lead, in a solid D district.

Why?

artist on September 12, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Because even with his track shoes on, Weprin can’t run awway from Barack Hussein Obama fast enough…

JohnGalt23 on September 12, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Evidence that Palin’s entry would hurt Romney more than it would hurt Perry?

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:15 AM

I think that’s a fair reading…

JohnGalt23 on September 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Palin’s significant changes in her demographics from the last CNN poll done after two weeks ago:

Brackets August poll:

Men 14% (8)

Whites 15% (10)

65+ 9% (2)

Non college24% (16)

<$50K/yr 22% (14)

Republicans16% (8)

Conserv 15% (8)

TP support 14% (6)

TP neutral 18% (14)

technopeasant on September 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Thanks for posting that. It looks like Paul and Palin are both really surging.

Inkblots on September 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM

So much for Perry falling to single digit lead. So much for Michelle falling back to where she was for most of this silly season — low single digit. Like I said before. I expect Michelle to step down by end of this month. Love her, but her place is in the House (no pun intended) and to angle for a leadership position there, since the current leadership needs to go.

Perry needs to press on with his stance that SS needs to be on the table (yes, I know about today’s op-ed) and let America decide if it is high time to have a legitimate discussion. If that happens, Mittwit & Oboobi won’t have a snowball’s chance demogouging it when America knows well that it is a ponzi scheme.

AH_C on September 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM

I want to hear Perry’s proposal for how to change things, but he’s certainly right that SS is a ponzi scheme as it is today, and things much change. He is also right that it should never have been put in place in the first place and that it should be left to the states. Even though he is right about this, he, as do I, still believes that it cannot just be scrapped in today’s political climate. Now more than ever, seniors are probably ready to support real and effective changes to SS. It certainly shows leadership to speak the truth about what SS really is today. I think Rep Paul Ryan may be in agreement with Perry on this one. We just need to see Perry’s plans, ASAP.

Oh and I like the blunt talk whether it comes from Perry or Palin ;) It’s really nice to hear.

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:18 AM

CUDA!

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM

JETS!

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Bachmann and Cain need to make headlines or drop out pretty soon.

John Deaux on September 12, 2011 at 11:20 AM

huckleberryfriend on September 12, 2011 at 10:58 AM

about where they are now. a quitter wont win this thing.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:20 AM

JETS!

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Da Bears

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:21 AM

TexasDan on September 12, 2011 at 11:13 AM

dont mock The Plan™ dude

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:21 AM

CUDA!

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM

I don’t even support her and I refer to her as Mrs. Palin or SP-because to call her by here first named or her girls basketball handle is disrespectful.
She’s not your bestest buddy. You aren’t meeting her today for a chat @ Starbucks.
Rick Perry doesn’t know me from Eve. Mrs. Palin doesn’t know you from Adam.
‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

The backfire has begun

cmsinaz on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

John Deaux on September 12, 2011 at 11:20 AM

Include Santorum and other single digit folks in that too. Oh and get in Sarah if you are. We should have this down to those with a real chance very soon. We need to focus on them.

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Undeclared candidate still drawing 3rd, within margin of error to second place?

Has this ever happened before?

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Among GOP voters 50 and older, Perry leads Romney by 41 percent to 22 percent.

Heh. Makes it so difficult to continue pidgeon holing all seniors as selfish, grasping jerks with no concern for the younger generations.

a capella on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

I don’t even support her and I refer to her as Mrs. Palin or SP-because to call her by here first named or her girls basketball handle is disrespectful.
She’s not your bestest buddy. You aren’t meeting her today for a chat @ Starbucks.
Rick Perry doesn’t know me from Eve. Mrs. Palin doesn’t know you from Adam.
‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Who crapped in your cornflakes this morning?

You sure get riled up over little things.

A one word post…”Cuda!” and your ranting and raving?

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM

‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Some people are enthusiastic by nature.

Different strokes for different folks.

Lighten up for crying out loud.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM

I don’t even support her and I refer to her as Mrs. Palin or SP-because to call her by here first named or her girls basketball handle is disrespectful.
She’s not your bestest buddy. You aren’t meeting her today for a chat @ Starbucks.
Rick Perry doesn’t know me from Eve. Mrs. Palin doesn’t know you from Adam.
‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

When people shout “‘Cuda!” at Tea Party rallies, Palin has only ever smiled. I think she gets a kick out of it. And remember the whole “can I call you Joe?” thing?

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Heh. Makes it so difficult to continue pidgeon holing all seniors as selfish, grasping jerks with no concern for the younger generations.

a capella on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Very true. Of course Perry has stated repeatedly that current seniors won’t be affected, so maybe they just feel safe (until the adds with Perry throwing them over a cliff come out of course).

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Who crapped in your cornflakes this morning?

You sure get riled up over little things.

A one word post…”Cuda!” and your ranting and raving?

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM

I have an odd feeling that annoyinglittletwerp will soon descend into Lourdes territory with her rantings and ravings. I hope not, but I do have a feeling.

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:28 AM

‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

‘cuda.

‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!‘CUDA!

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

you people just have to stop this hagiography of sarah. every little thing you conflate into some sort of historical event. kinda like the libs do w/ obama. check this link and you’ll see perry was polling in 2nd and 3rd before announcing.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

Heh. Makes it so difficult to continue pidgeon holing all seniors as selfish, grasping jerks with no concern for the younger generations.

a capella on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Remember, that includes only GOP seniors, who are far more likely to have alternate retirement savings than seniors in general. For your typical Dem senior, whose only retirement income is SS, those numbers will be far different.

JohnGalt23 on September 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

I guess if you count Reagan’s exploratory committee in early 1979 as a quasi-entry into the race the answer is no.

But I know why Palin never formed an exploratory committee. Because you would take as much heat from the MSM being a quasi-candidate than being a real one.

In addition she has The Undefeated and her speeches to the TP movement and her position of Fox News to keep her face in the news and doing it with a zero burn rate.

technopeasant on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

So in spite of the fact that all of America come to her rallies Palin can only garner 15% in his poll?

Has ‘unseen’ hung himherself yet?

rickyricardo on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

you’ll see perry was polling in 2nd and 3rd before announcing.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

Now he is in front.

Polls are fluid.

He may not stay there.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

TexasDan on September 12, 2011 at 11:13 AM

dont mock The Plan™ dude

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:21 AM

LOL! I do wish she would get in, I really do. Maybe then her devotees will wake up to political reality.

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

I don’t even support her and I refer to her as Mrs. Palin or SP-because to call her by here first named or her girls basketball handle is disrespectful.
She’s not your bestest buddy. You aren’t meeting her today for a chat @ Starbucks.
Rick Perry doesn’t know me from Eve. Mrs. Palin doesn’t know you from Adam.
‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Nope. I’m not biting. This is one of those crazy fishing deals, right?

Dongemaharu on September 12, 2011 at 11:31 AM

the_nile on September 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

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MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:34 AM

When make-believe is all you have, you go with it.

My prediction is that if she doesn’t announce, her support will remain steady right through the convention, on the assumption that it’s all part of her perfect plan.

TexasDan on September 12, 2011 at 11:13 AM

I predict that Palin will announce, but thanks for the advice. I will sit out the primary and wait for the general election if Palin doesn’t run. Thanks TexasDan.

chief on September 12, 2011 at 11:34 AM

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

my point was that sarah in 3rd undeclared is nothing historic,

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:35 AM

So in spite of the fact that all of America come to her rallies Palin can only garner 15% in his poll?

Has ‘unseen’ hung himherself yet?

rickyricardo on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

I don’t think so, as long as steebo’s decoder ring keeps churning better numbers.

cartooner on September 12, 2011 at 11:36 AM

chief on September 12, 2011 at 11:34 AM

I’ll put down your order for the all new Official Palin Write In Pencil(tm).

Step right up folks!

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:36 AM

I just love how all the talk of “shared sacrifice” NEVER involves cutting the benefit packages of “Representatives”.
But “they” sure do seem to think the rest of us should just roll right over and forget about the money STOLEN FROM US.

KMC1 on September 12, 2011 at 11:37 AM

I hope all conservatives and Republicans get behind Perry so we can unite against the Marxist Dictator Obama!

ObamatheMessiah on September 12, 2011 at 11:37 AM

rickyricardo on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

You are starting to sound more like Lucy everyday.

Palin gained ground since the last CNN poll done two weeks ago and now is only trailing Mitt Romney by 3 points in the horse race without being a declared candidate.

What you just posted makes no sense whatsoever.

Yes Perry has a double-digit lead over both Romney and Palin. I acknowledge that.

But for you to resort to trashing Palin for garnering 15% of the vote for the GOP nomination is simply disingenuous especially now that no other very conservative candidate is above 5% in the vote.

technopeasant on September 12, 2011 at 11:38 AM

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:34 AM

Is this you proving you can be more idiotic than the worst Palinista? Or is this part of the circular firing squad I keep hearing about that we should avoid?

Dongemaharu on September 12, 2011 at 11:38 AM

you people just have to stop this hagiography of sarah. every little thing you conflate into some sort of historical event. kinda like the libs do w/ obama. check this link and you’ll see perry was polling in 2nd and 3rd before announcing.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

Perry has been polling second or third since when? 2 months ago? Palin has been polling in the top 3 for 3 years now, has never formed an exploratory committee, or announced her candidacy.

I happen to be a Perry supporter since he announced, so can that “you people” bullcrap.

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

my point was that sarah in 3rd undeclared is nothing historic,

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Who said it was “historic”?

All it means to me is despite the long campaign to knock her down and keep her out, she is still in a strong position to start from.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Dongemaharu on September 12, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Would like your Offical Palin Crying Towel in taupe, mauve or ecru? We’ve run out eggshell but they’re on back order.

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Dongemaharu on September 12, 2011 at 11:38 AM

He didn’t have to prove that. The overwhelming majority of HA posters knew that already.

kingsjester on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

dude, follow the thread or butt out. the OP i replied to is the one wwho proclaimed it more sarahistory.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:40 AM

I hope all conservatives and Republicans get behind Perry so we can unite against the Marxist Dictator Obama!

ObamatheMessiah on September 12, 2011 at 11:37 AM

Let’s have a primary first, shall we?

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM

All it means to me is despite the long campaign to knock her down and keep her out, she is still in a strong position to start from.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Speaking of said campaign, from New York Magazine of all places:

The New Anti–Sarah Palin Documentary Won’t Make Many Haters Happy

Final score: Palin 7, Broomfield 1

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM

kingsjester on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

Due to overwhelming demand we must limit the Official Palin Crying Towel(tm) to one per customer at this time.

But we have plenty of Official Palin Write In Pencils(tm)!!

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM

I don’t even support her and I refer to her as Mrs. Palin or SP-because to call her by here first named or her girls basketball handle is disrespectful.
She’s not your bestest buddy. You aren’t meeting her today for a chat @ Starbucks.
Rick Perry doesn’t know me from Eve. Mrs. Palin doesn’t know you from Adam.
‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Willard “Mitt” Romney? I don’t hear you gnashing your teeth when people are chanting “Mitt.Mitt.Mitt.”

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM

It’s almost 11 where you are. Does Mom have your spaghettios ready for lunch yet?

kingsjester on September 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM

So in spite of the fact that all of America come to her rallies Palin can only garner 15% in his poll?

Has ‘unseen’ hung himherself yet?

rickyricardo on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

Hey dumbass, there is the little fact that Palin hasn’t declared her run for president.

I would think the fact that an undeclared candidate that the media and bloggers have said isn’t running and can’t win happens to be in third place is not a bad position.

Where was the great Rick Perry polling before he announced his intentions to run? Yeah, that’s what I thought.

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:34 AM

WTF? Are you drinking already Brutus?

chief on September 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM

dude, follow the thread or butt out. the OP i replied to is the one wwho proclaimed it more sarahistory.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:40 AM

dude, butt yourself out.

I can manage myself without your advice, alright?

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM

chief on September 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM

You say that now, but you’ll be begging for both the Official Palin Crying Towel(tm) and the Official Palin Write In Pencil(tm) when reality ro-sham-bo’s you.

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:46 AM

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM

I think we are and sounds like ObamatheMessiah has chosen a candidate. Nothing wrong with that right?

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Based on conversations I have had, people realize that SS is worse than Ponzi scheme(this ponzi scheme is not voluntary) and it may collapse until radical changes are made. So I am not surprised that Perry leads the pack.

antisocial on September 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Final score: Palin 7, Broomfield 1

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM

That was funny.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Would like your Offical Palin Crying Towel in taupe, mauve or ecru? We’ve run out eggshell but they’re on back order.

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM

That you know of the existence of taupe, mauve and ecru causes me to worry about you…

JohnGalt23 on September 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

kingsjester on September 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Mmmmm spaghettios

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Agree with Ed. Perry now needs to come up with a framework for reforming SS. But first, he ought to meet with key proponents of serious reform, including Paul Ryan. He’ll get sound advice and perhaps a powerful endorsement or two as part of the effort.

CliffHanger on September 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Romney’s whole platform is that he’s electable. I was listening to James Carville this morning handicapping Perry and Romney chances. He was going after Perry a lot stronger than he was Romney. That should tell people something. The Democrats will build up the weaker candidate till they win the Republican nomination Then they use the MSM to tear them down in the general.

September 12, 2011 Fox Business News
Carville on Obama’s Chances in 2012
Political strategist James Carville discusses the president’s chances at re-election.

Dr Evil on September 12, 2011 at 11:50 AM

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM

you responded to my reply to someone else and i should butt out?? go away little troll. come back when you can follow a conversation.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Final score: Palin 7, Broomfield 1

steebo77 on September 12, 2011 at 11:41 AM

That was funny.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Even the one point awarded to Broomfield was pretty weak tea.

NoNails on September 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Are you drinking already Brutus?

chief on September 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM

mmmmmmmmmmmm beeer

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:52 AM

So in spite of the fact that all of America come to her rallies Palin can only garner 15% in his poll?

Has ‘unseen’ hung himherself yet?

rickyricardo on September 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

Let’s see Palin an undeclared candidate who the majority do not believe will run is polling at 15% 3 pts behind Mitt Romeny. Considering Palin will get an announcment bounce like all candidates have got that places Palin in a strong second place ahead of Mitt and trailing Perry by about 7-10pts. I see her getting about a 5-8pt bounce with her announcment. Then the race becomes about a choice between cronyism and sudden relentless reform. Bachmann is down at 4pts and her campaign is over when Palin gets in. Mitt seen running in third place after all the time and effort he is putting in the race will be seen as the spoiler.

The fact that Perry’s support as stoppedat 30% looks like his momentuem is ebbing and the poll was taken before the Mitt bachmann all out asult on Perry about Social security.

I say this poll if you believe in polls which I don’t is very good news for Palin. As the most vetted candidate in history Palin is still at her low point and Perry as the least vetted candidate is at his high point.

I have always stated that when Palin enters the race it will basically be a three way tie. This poll doesn’t show anything to counter that argument. Perry may be a couple points higher afte r PAlin announces than Palin and Mitt but he is within easy striking distance from both.

I’ll take sudden relentless reform over the good old boy network and I think most of america will too.

unseen on September 12, 2011 at 11:52 AM

I think we are and sounds like ObamatheMessiah has chosen a candidate. Nothing wrong with that right?

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Nope, nothing wrong with that, I just don’t like the calls for unity before anyone has even had a chance to vote their own way.

Now is the time to hash it all out, and once there is a winner then it is time to unite against Obama.

It sounds sometimes like some people would like to simply check the RCP average of polls tomorrow morning and hand the leader the nomination right now with no votes cast at all.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:52 AM

dude, follow the thread or butt out. the OP i replied to is the one wwho proclaimed it more sarahistory.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:40 AM

Undeclared candidate still drawing 3rd, within margin of error to second place?

Has this ever happened before?

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Show me where I claimed this to be some huge historical feat by Super-Sarah?

I merely asked it this had happened before.

Your finding stuff that just isn’t there.

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:53 AM

you responded to my reply to someone else and i should butt out?? go away little troll. come back when you can follow a conversation.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM

You are getting more convincing the nastier you get.

Keep going and you yet may get me thinking your way!

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Even the one point awarded to Broomfield was pretty weak tea.

NoNails on September 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Yeah it was. It’s more like 8-0.

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:54 AM

Would like your Offical Palin Crying Towel in taupe, mauve or ecru? We’ve run out eggshell but they’re on back order.

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM
That you know of the existence of taupe, mauve and ecru causes me to worry about you…

JohnGalt23 on September 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

As someone who works in the field of interior design, I can tell you those colors went by the wayside several years ago. If you want a drawing card, go with teal, forest, charcoal or honey. Get with the program! :)

sherry on September 12, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:52 AM

I’m with you, but don’t think it’s worth responding to people calling for unity. Glad they found their candidate. Hope he/she holds up under the scrutiny ;)

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Perry’s team should be talking to Palin right now. the fact that they aren’t would mean that they understand she is getting in the race. After all an “endorsement” from Palin we have been told right now would seal Perry’s run. So why aren’t an army of Perry people in AK trying to get that endorsement?

Oh that’s right because Palin isn’t endorsing she is running.

unseen on September 12, 2011 at 11:56 AM

‘Nuff with the ‘Cuda crap.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 12, 2011 at 11:23 AM

‘Cuda, ‘Cuda, ‘Cuda!!!

You say that now, but you’ll be begging for both the Official Palin Crying Towel(tm) and the Official Palin Write In Pencil(tm) when reality ro-sham-bo’s you.

MJBrutus on September 12, 2011 at 11:46 AM

I won’t be begging for shit. I will continue to move along each day like always.

I’m more worried about ‘my’ Red Sox right now than a primary that doesn’t even cast a vote until February 2012.

Thanks for your concern though.

chief on September 12, 2011 at 11:57 AM

Undeclared candidate still drawing 3rd, within margin of error to second place?

Has this ever happened before?

portlandon on September 12, 2011 at 11:24 AM

dude, follow the thread or butt out. the OP i replied to is the one wwho proclaimed it more sarahistory.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:40 AM

That’s what you are getting bent out of shape over?

It was a question, not a declaration.

Maybe you should follow your own advice and follow the thread of your own conversations better before you go telling me what to do, Jerky. :)

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:57 AM

unseen on September 12, 2011 at 11:52 AM

the poll was taken between sept 9 and the 11th, right in the middle of the bachman romney SS attack on perry. did nothing to him. look at his numbers w/ seniors. strong as can be. sarah cant beat him.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 11:59 AM

unseen on September 12, 2011 at 11:56 AM

This is a real question and I’m just curious where you stand unseen, so don’t give me the beat down. ;) k?

If Sarah does not run and does endorse someone (I don’t care who), would you care about that endorsement or do you already have a back-up candidate in mind if she doesn’t run. I ask because of the news out today about T-Paw. I was surprised by his choice and wondered what impact he might have on the race. My guess is not much since his support was pretty low, but you never know.

kerrhome on September 12, 2011 at 12:00 PM

Brian1972 on September 12, 2011 at 11:54 AM

yeah, lots of “convincing” happens on these threads!! i wasnt trying because i doubt you could be convinced. you started out commenting way off topic of what my post was about anyway. you were bbomb-throwing to began with.

chasdal on September 12, 2011 at 12:01 PM

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