Terror threat update: Feds fear plot involves dirty bomb?
posted at 8:48 pm on September 9, 2011 by Allahpundit
Before we get to the dirty bomb stuff, I get to say “I told you so” about where this threat came from. Last night I speculated that it was Younis al-Mauritani, the AQ capo charged by Bin Laden with organizing international plots. He was captured recently in Pakistan — no one’s quite sure precisely when — thanks to a joint CIA/ISI operation. According to an intel official who spoke to Daveed Gartenstein-Ross today, al-Mauritani is indeed the source of the intelligence on the new plot. Former Bush counterterror advisor Fran Townsend also suspected it was al-Mauritani, but she adds a wrinkle:
Source says Pak-US CT relationship still rock bottom. No trust. Al Mauratania arrest was targt of oppty. US gettg no direct access 2 him.
If the U.S./Pakistani relationship is still at rock bottom and we’re not getting these details straight from the horse’s mouth, who knows how much of what Pakistan is telling us — or not telling us — is true. Sending us off on a wild goose chase would be partial payback for humiliating them with the Bin Laden raid. But then, so would holding back key details that might help us break this thing up before it goes off.
Anyway, the dirty bomb. If you’re looking for cheap, relatively easy ways to cripple an already hobbled economy, nothing will do it faster than spreading some cesium all over Wall Street:
The crossroads of the world came to a grinding halt at various times Friday because for police Times Square has become a sort of ground zero in the latest terror threat. Sources told CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer that another attempt to explode a bomb there a key concern, and the intelligence is that it could be a dirty bomb…
Kramer recently talked exclusively with Kelly about the possibility of a dirty bomb, but now sources said the classroom drills might have to be put into practice. Intelligence sources said the terrorists could be trying to make a dirty bomb this time my mixing radiological isotopes with an explosive device.
That’s why the NYPD is deploying all kinds of radiation detectors, panel trucks with sophisticated instruments. On Friday, cops had personal radiation detectors on their belts, and radiation detectors are being used by police within a 50-mile radius of New York City — in New Jersey, Connecticut, and Pennsylvania and on Long Island.
The Daily claims that this one goes right to the top:
The mastermind behind the terror plot announced yesterday was the man who filled Osama bin Laden’s shoes as al Qaeda’s new No. 1: Ayman al-Zawahiri.
In early August, Zawahiri personally recruited three terrorists to travel to the U.S. to perpetrate a string of car-bomb attacks on Washington, D.C., and New York City to coincide with the 10th anniversary of September 11, according to high-ranking sources in the counter-intelligence community who spoke with The Daily on condition of anonymity…
To reach the U.S., two of the operatives traveled to Pakistan through Iran, sources said. In Pakistan they met up with a third operative and traveled to Kabul, Afghanistan. In Kabul they “dropped and swapped” passports and other identification before traveling to Dubai, Saudi Arabia. From there they traveled to the U.S.
I find it hard to believe Zawahiri “personally recruited” anyone. The guy who used to hold his position took a bullet in the face a few months ago; the guy who replaced him as number two was hit by a drone missile within the last few weeks. He has bigger things to worry about right now than staffing, which as I understand it is usually farmed out to the operational guys. Besides, Zawahiri isn’t known for his charm; there are surely more persuasive people than him in the inner circle to make the martyrdom pitch to whichever young jihadi schmuck they’ve got lined up for the next plot. On the other hand, precisely because Zawahiri isn’t Mr. Popularity inside Al Qaeda, he must be looking for some sort of near-term “victory” over America to consolidate his authority within the group. And the fact that the two operatives here allegedly traveled through Iran lends credibility to the idea that this plot is being managed at the highest levels. Remember, before he was killed, Atiyah al-Rahman was AQ’s operational chief and its liaison to Iran, charged with moving jihadis through that country and into Pakistan. Could be that he put this plot together with Zawahiri’s blessing and set it in motion before he died.
Who are the would-be attackers, you say? Details are sketchy, but The Daily hears there are three of them and that two are American citizens, one of Egyptian descent and the other of Yemeni ethnicity. Needless to say, it makes sense that AQ would want citizens for this since it’s easier for them to enter the U.S. More from the Times:
Two senior American law enforcement officials said the tip came from an informant in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region who passed word of the purported plot, intended to coincide with the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, to American intelligence officers on Wednesday. The informant said two American citizens of Arab ancestry had left Afghanistan, traveled through one or other countries and reached the United States as recently as last week.
The officials said they had only a vague physical description of the two men — one described as 5 feet tall, the other 5-foot-8 — and a first name for one of them that is common in the Middle East. The tipster also described a third conspirator, but he appeared to have traveled to Europe…
The other law enforcement official said some of the informant’s account “didn’t seem right.” The official questioned, for instance, why the two men would leave the United States and then come back to carry out an attack, unless they received training in Pakistan. But there is no evidence yet that either man trained there, two officials said.
A WSJ report published last night speculates that there are three Al Qaeda operatives who’d be prime for a mission like this because they’ve lived here before: Adam Gadahn, Adnan al-Shukrijumah, and Jude Kenan Mohammad, who’s suspected of being in Pakistan and under indictment for providing material support to terrorism. Problem is, none of them quite match the descriptions above. Neither Gadahn nor Mohammad are of Yemeni, Egyptian, or other Arab ancestry (Mohammad is Pakistani) and Gadahn’s way too visible for a covert operation inside the U.S. anyway. Shukrijumah is of Saudi descent, but if you’re willing to overlook that discrepancy, he’s a fairly close match to the descriptions. He is of Arab ancestry and he’s also short like one of the alleged attackers (some estimates peg him at 5’3). U.S. counterterror officials have feared him dating back to the days of 9/11 partly because of his interest in — ta da — dirty-bomb plots, and he was linked most recently to the foiled 2009 plot to bomb New York City’s subways on — ta da again — the anniversary of 9/11. He used to live in Florida, speaks excellent English, and can easily pass as Hispanic or Caribbean, so he’s an ideal infiltrator if AQ leadership is willing to part with him. Here’s a selection of FBI photos of him and here’s a video of him showing off his fluency in English. Have a look, just in case.
Exit question: If the dirty-bomb rumors are true, who gave them the radioactive material?









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All bombs are dirty, fyi.
Stay safe DC and NYC.
carbon_footprint on September 9, 2011 at 8:50 PM
Well, they have had at least ten years to work on this.
Great.
Dr. ZhivBlago on September 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM
NO! What the Feds (read: O’Bambi) really fear is a further erosion of public support if it is demonstrated that this regime cannot protect the country like W. did.
honsy on September 9, 2011 at 8:54 PM
Harry Reid. Remember Yucca Mountain?
GarandFan on September 9, 2011 at 8:54 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-pleads-guilty-u-nuclear-export-case-194225103.html
William Amos on September 9, 2011 at 8:56 PM
al-Qa’eda MUST make a statement.
It is the tenth anniversary.
They suffered a humiliating defeat in Iraq.
UBL and other HVTs are dead.
Theyve been thwarted multiple times stateside.
If they do not make a statement on this anniversary, they will be seen by many Americans and others as largely ineffectual, despite their gains in the Maghreb and African horn.
I have no confidence our intelligence operatives actually have the locations of their targets.
blatantblue on September 9, 2011 at 8:57 PM
(phone rings at 3 AM)
George W. Bush: “Hello?”
O’bama: “Want your old job back?”
Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM
“You never want to let a serious crisis go to waste”—Rahm Emmanuel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow
PappyD61 on September 9, 2011 at 9:01 PM
Exit question: If the dirty-bomb rumors are true, who gave them the radioactive material?
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Me thinks,possibly….Libya!!
canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 9:02 PM
Couric interview with Michelle Obama, 2008
The ultimate national security advisor.
Limerick on September 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM
I know there are more things important, but I’m wondering how the country reacts politically to a successful attack of any kind on the 9/11 anniversary. I would assume there would be a moment of rallying, but a successful attack on 9/11 with all the aforementioned knowledge and heightened threat level?
I just hope this DHS is up to preventing it. What’s on Obama’s schedule for Sunday?
BKeyser on September 9, 2011 at 9:04 PM
Remember this when people start urging us to incorporate Sharia law into the US legal system and also add that Islam is a religion of peace. Anyone who believes that is totally insane. Muslims urge murdering infidels—which means anyone not a Muslim—so what is the result? Terrorism and death.
chai on September 9, 2011 at 9:05 PM
Likely golf.
chai on September 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM
Thankfully the Democrat party sees this as important since it is related to reelection.
Hening on September 9, 2011 at 9:07 PM
Well, they passed through Iran, didn’t they? Trick is transporting it…
Firefly_76 on September 9, 2011 at 9:07 PM
Ron Paul’s friends, the Iranians?
I hope to God this is not true. It would too awful to contemplate.
Terrye on September 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM
The ultimate national security advisor.
Limerick on September 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM
Limerick:Yup,it looks like 2011-2012,will be
Year of Fear,just before Election Season!:)
canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM
I can’t believe that this is a highly organized plot if those involved came to the USA in August to do an attack on September 11th. More likely this would be a hack job, -few-tanks of propane etc.
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Not necessary to malign Paul. If it were the Iranians though, there are ways to trace such things.
Firefly_76 on September 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM
The Russians.
Knucklehead on September 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM
So,unlike Bush,the MSM are busy alerting
the Goons,on this intell!!
canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 9:13 PM
A guy in Sweden wanted to build his home nuclear reactor with fuel bought off the Internet.
irishspy on September 9, 2011 at 9:14 PM
Ron’s got his escape plan to Mexico and safety at the ready. Thankfully there is no fence at present to keep him prisoner in the US.
Indeed.
whatcat on September 9, 2011 at 9:14 PM
if even a hint of a dirty bomb is sniffed, ship 500 nukes over to India, let the ISI choke on that.
rob verdi on September 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM
Mogilevich’s organization is currently run by Dmitri Firtash… he is big in the natural gas and energy sector and helped Mogilevich swindle the Russians 3 times on natural gas. Mogilevich was cited by the French back in the mid-1990′s as the one who contacted AQ when they were based in Egypt about radioactive material.
These guys do not play around and when I hear of Russian mob money showing up in Mexico I immediately think of the Mogilevich group as they know the energy business inside and out. Any mob group that plays rough with the likes of Russia and Iran is not to be sneezed at.
ajacksonian on September 9, 2011 at 9:19 PM
Maybe we should bring those Washington state longshoreman over to NYC and have them man the bridges- no c***s***ing dirty nuker would get anywhere close to Manhattan.
BKeyser on September 9, 2011 at 9:19 PM
Uranium Found at bin Laden Base
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Newsmax.com Wires
Monday, Dec. 24, 2001
LONDON — Uranium and cyanide have reportedly been discovered in drums at an al-Qaeda terrorist base near Kandahar in southern Afghanistan.
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http://www.unitedstatesaction.com/nuclear_terrorism.htm
canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 9:19 PM
There are radiological isotopes in just about every hospital in the U.S. with a Nuclear Medicine department. I don’t know how much material would be needed to make an effective dirty bomb or how difficult it would be to acquire.
SlaveDog on September 9, 2011 at 9:20 PM
A guy in Sweden wanted to build his home nuclear reactor with fuel bought off the Internet.
irishspy on September 9, 2011 at 9:14 PM
irishspy:I heard about that,and his work-station was the
kitchen table!!
canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM
The Russians seem to have an adequate supply of polonium 210.
SlaveDog on September 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM
I have to ask a very uncomfortable question folks.
If all this is true and this happens on this weekend memorial…would it not, somehow benefit America? Meaning…that the PC addled, ignorant Holders, and Big Sis would be proved to be incompetent, ignorant and willfully compliant in the PC madness that refuses to strike back at islam / muslims?
If this happens….demorats would never seek office higher than street sweepers for the next 100 years. If this happens…America needs to strike at the heart of Islamo-fascists….islam. The saudi’s who are the biggest instigators of anti American hate…..need to be eliminated.
If this happens…people like “BloomTurd” will never be elected to positions where American lives are ever sacrificed again.
When this happens…and it will….how do we respond? Certainly it won’t be to capitulate to the erection of a Victory mosque at Ground Zero.
I think even the liberal, brain damaged freaks of New York….would want some revenge?
Twana on September 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM
Remember this from 2006: Outcry as (Bulgarian) Border Guards Seize British ‘Dirty Bomb’ Lorry Heading for Iran
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM
Define “Effective”.
BallisticBob on September 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM
Twana on September 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM
As someone who works in DC and has family in NYC, I understand but certainly do not appreciate your hypotheticals. Reminiscent of Krugman’s suggesting that a bigger natural disaster would stimulate spending and improve the economy.
Firefly_76 on September 9, 2011 at 9:28 PM
Sorry, I’ve already exceeded my level of expertise.
SlaveDog on September 9, 2011 at 9:29 PM
Something that would render Times Square a no go zone for the nest 1000 years?
Better yet….the entire upper East side uninhabitable for the nest 1000 years?
I guarantee that property values in New Jersey would triple.
Twana on September 9, 2011 at 9:30 PM
Great news. I hesitate to be a hateful cynic about libs in this situation, but I can’t help but wonder how many of them either:
1) Look forward to an attack so they can say “See! PBHO can respond just as well as preznit chimpy did!”
2) Accept a bombing as our just rewards for Americans being imperialistic warmongers or whatever it is they think these days.
Bishop on September 9, 2011 at 9:32 PM
HI AP:
MY SCENARIO:
MEDICALLY USED NUCLEAR MATERIEL
IN BOMBS
DETINATED IN TUNNELS AND MAJOR TRAIN STATIONS
PENN STATION AND AND GCT
DISABLING THEM FOR YEARS
WHEN THERE’S NO MONEY FOR ALTERNATIVES
MAKING MANHATTAN
AND ALL IT’S REAL ESTATE
WORTHLESS
CAUING A BANKING COLLAPSE AND GLOBAL DEPRESSION
reliapundit on September 9, 2011 at 9:32 PM
I’m with ya.
IMO, it really wouldn’t matter what kind if radiation got spewed from said dirty bomb. Even if it was low level and non-lethal, the psycological effect would be tremendous.
BallisticBob on September 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM
I spent a couple of days in Russia this spring on a cruise. I’ve traveled all over the world by myself, and Russia was by far the scariest place I’ve ever been to. The stories told by the crew of the ship and their encounters with the Russian mafia was enough to scare the living hell out of anyone.
Knucklehead on September 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM
Knowing how stupid these terrorists are, they probably will buy thousands of smoke detectors and take out the Americium-241 thinking that the radioactive label on them actually means something serious.
Mohammad: Farid, it says Warning: Radioactive!
Farid: Stupid infidels. God is great!
keep the change on September 9, 2011 at 9:34 PM
Speaking of Fear,
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The densest element in the known Universe has been found – Pelosium
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Pelosium: A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium. Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311.
These particles are held together by dark forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.
The symbol of Pelosium is PU.
Pelosium’s mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium molecule, leading to the formation of isodopes.
This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientist to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass. When catalyzed with money, Pelosium activates CNNadnausium, an element that radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons as Pelosium.
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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2485914/posts
canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 9:37 PM
I would flee the country in fear if it weren’t for that damn fence keeping us all in.
29Victor on September 9, 2011 at 9:37 PM
2) Accept a bombing as our just rewards for Americans being imperialistic warmongers or whatever it is they think these days.
Bishop on September 9, 2011 at 9:32 PM
Bishop:Thats Non-Crazy/Loony Talk!:)
canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 9:39 PM
National Planning Scenarios had such an attack listed.
In this scenario, the Universal Adversary (UA) purchases stolen Cesium Chloride (CsCl) to make a Radiological Dispersal Device (RDD), or “dirty bomb.”
180 fatalities; 270 injuries; 20,000 detectible contaminations
10,000 evacuated to shelters in safe areas (decontamination required prior to entering shelters) 25,000 in each city are given shelter-in-place instructions Hundreds of thousands self-evacuate from major urban areas in anticipation of future attacks .
Decontamination/Cleanup: The extent of contamination will be a major challenge, because 137Cs is highly water soluble and is chemically reactive with a wide variety of materials, including common building materials such as concrete and stone.
Approximately 36 city blocks will be contaminated to varying degrees. Contamination will settle on streets, sidewalks, and building surfaces, and will be found in several kilometers of the subway system (City One). Building interiors will become contaminated due to ventilation systems, doors, windows (because negative building pressure can draw aerosols in through very small openings), and foot traffic. Personal property—including vehicles and items insidebuildings—will also become contaminated, but many items can be adequately decontaminated for free release.
sharrukin on September 9, 2011 at 9:40 PM
If you were to ask President Obama…. GW Bush.
Hog Wild on September 9, 2011 at 9:41 PM
I agree. Just the idea of it would be enough.
But this is all speculation at this point. None of this may be real. The same set of facts at a time other than the 10th anniversary of 9/11 may not have been released to the public.
My 2 cents.
SlaveDog on September 9, 2011 at 9:44 PM
Man oh man, those ‘Days of Rage’ people are going to be upset if they can not occupy Wall Street because of radioactive contamination.
Skandia Recluse on September 9, 2011 at 9:48 PM
The problem is that even a trace of radiation in a bomb that didn’t even hurt anyone would cause a full-on meltdown panic in the U.S. media. People getting doses smaller than an X-ray would believe they are going to die of radiation poisoning and that their food and water are ruined forever. New York City would become a ghost town overnight. The hysteria about radiation in this country is ridiculous.
rockmom on September 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM
Hmm…that’s a different vacation choice, I have to say.
SlaveDog on September 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM
Let me guess. Two of them are named Mohammed and the third is named Muhammad.
Dandapani on September 9, 2011 at 9:53 PM
It was a cruise through the Baltic’s i.e. Denmark, Sweden, Estonia, Finland, Germany and the fjords in Norway.
Don’t believe the hype or the pretty travel brochures about St.Petersburg or Moscow, it’s propaganda.
Knucklehead on September 9, 2011 at 9:54 PM
I considered visiting Russia too, but opted instead for a nice mud hut in the Congo.
Bishop on September 9, 2011 at 9:56 PM
If the fellas are just showing up now everything must already be in place. Otherwise it is the poor little brown boys calling wolf again. It has its own effect and is pretty cheap to engender. Riyadh and Tehran are the castles where the Princesses are kept. Everything else is Whack-a-Mole.
BL@KBIRD on September 9, 2011 at 9:57 PM
Not Saddam Hussein.
It’d be funny, if weren’t so damn pathetic, that so liberal many weenies here in the TC area want to commemorate 9/11 with peace dances and paeans to tolerance.
AQ wants to commemorate 9/11 by killing as many people as they can and crashing the economy for shits & giggles.
My head hurts.
Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2011 at 10:03 PM
Or, as the media would term them, “youths”.
whatcat on September 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Is that where you’ve been for the past couple of weeks? You have been missed!
Knucklehead on September 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM
I wonder if the liberals plan to release a dove?
whatcat on September 9, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Went to the mountains with my boys and older girls to get their minds right for what’s coming their way. It’s amazing how quickly young people will take to wilderness skills if they don’t have preconceived notions of things being “icky”.
Bishop on September 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM
Let me guess. Two of them are named Mohammed and the third is named Muhammad.
Dandapani on September 9, 2011 at 9:53 PM
Or, as the media would term them, “youths”.
whatcat on September 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM
“Did you say utes?”
tank_killer69 on September 9, 2011 at 10:15 PM
Good for you and lucky for your kids too. I’m taking off Sunday for Prague to hang around with those lucky people who don’t complain to much about their new found freedom.
Knucklehead on September 9, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Potassium Iodide, KI. Get a bottle, throw it in the refrigerator.
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2011 at 10:22 PM
Keep a weather eye everyone. These savages could easily divert from D.C. or NY to other big cities when they see preparations being made.
tank_killer69 on September 9, 2011 at 10:24 PM
Great city. Took a backpack tour of Europe with my wife ten years ago and stayed for 3 days in Prague; walked back and forth over that major bridge with the tarnished statues on it (forget what it’s called) to see the sites and had a lot of fun.
Only one bit of trouble while there, we got accosted by a crooked subway cop who threatened to arrest us for supposedly not buying subway tickets unless we paid him off. Luckily a pair of Englishs-speaking Czech soldiers happened by and helped us out.
Bishop on September 9, 2011 at 10:27 PM
The Charles Bridge. The people of the Czech Republic are extremely nice and helpful, I was surprised how many spoke English. This will be my second trip there in a year.
Knucklehead on September 9, 2011 at 10:32 PM
YES! The Charles Bridge, you need to cross that to get to the imperial palace or whatever up on the hill, right?
We met many fine people, especially at the little pubs, though the restaurants made us laugh when the waiters got pissed that we thought paying for salt and utensils was unfair. It was really only pennies but we always pretended to be indignant just to get a reaction.
Bishop on September 9, 2011 at 10:40 PM
The Royal Palace on Castle Hill. I think I had the best time over in the New Town section, following the path of the Velvet Revolution with my handy Rick Steves book (yeah I know he’s a Libtard)!
Knucklehead on September 9, 2011 at 10:49 PM
Dude is lecturing a class of what look like college freshmen on the correct way to jumpstart a car. Is that all he’s got??
a capella on September 9, 2011 at 11:09 PM
A flip answer would be Iran, but I doubt any radioactive material would accompany him on a flight from Dubai. The most secure way would be to ship it in a shipping container and have it prepostioned near the target area. I am sure there are folks near NYC and DC who could store it and build it into a stolen delivery van.
This guy is slick and from the photo of him without facial hair, a hard one to spot.
Thanks for all the information.
Corky Boyd on September 9, 2011 at 11:25 PM
What better way to get that 40% approval up to 60-70% than by having a national security “crisis”?
angryed on September 9, 2011 at 11:25 PM
Mark Steyn today: liberals never see enemies; they just see friends who haven’t been hugged yet.
Dhuka on September 9, 2011 at 11:32 PM
Several options:
1>Iran
2>Pakistan military
3>Former soviet states.
4>Libyan rebels.
antisocial on September 9, 2011 at 11:51 PM
I was thinking the same thing today. What if it is a diversion. Maybe it is LA, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston… I hope this is a false alarm. I also hope millions of eyes are going to be really awake. There is no other motive to release such info.
antisocial on September 9, 2011 at 11:56 PM
I was thinking the same thing today. What if it is a diversion. Maybe it is LA, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston… I hope this is a false alarm. I also hope millions of eyes are going to be really awake. There is no other motive to release such info.
antisocial on September 9, 2011 at 11:56 PM
Before we moved to Texas-5 months ago TODAY-my husband worked about a block north of Chicago’s Union Station-in his company’s HQ. Union Station is a couple of blocks west of the building formerly known as the Sears Tower. An explosion there would be catastrophic. *shakes head sadly*
annoyinglittletwerp on September 10, 2011 at 12:11 AM
The types of radioactive materials which would work in a dirty bomb are unstable and have unique and traceable signatures. So if that is true, whether they are caught or succeed in setting it off, we should be able to figure out exactly where it came from.
It is of course notable that al Qaeda has floated buzz about anniversary and revenge plots before, which generally have proven untrue. Not that anyone should let their guard down, naturally.
Adjoran on September 10, 2011 at 12:20 AM
If traced to Iran, what would little Bammie do?
Nothing. Cover it up.
slickwillie2001 on September 10, 2011 at 12:24 AM
Much more likely it would be traced to the Russians, IMO. Those guys give me the creeps much more than any of the Middle Eastern hellholes.
Nelsen on September 10, 2011 at 12:39 AM
Vicious creepy. I’ve never seen such sour looking people in my life.
Knucklehead on September 10, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Yeah, pissing off people who handle your food is hilarious. What could possibly go wrong, lol.
xblade on September 10, 2011 at 1:16 AM
You realize the libs were using your exact words when Bush was in office, right? Spare the bullshit for 2 seconds and seriously think about today’s reality.
You-Eh-Vee on September 10, 2011 at 1:17 AM
“If the dirty-bomb rumors are true, who gave them the radioactive material?”
We’d find out.
Then, should deploy a real tactical nuke on the country of origin…
Oh… Wait… Obama’s president.
We’d send a strongly worded letter to the UN, then apologize for taking their time to review the matter…
Danny on September 10, 2011 at 1:19 AM
If there is much fallout, will Al Gore be more justified in proselytizing AGW?
Danny on September 10, 2011 at 1:21 AM
Islam is THE dirty bomb.
profitsbeard on September 10, 2011 at 1:41 AM
Asked and answered..
Viper1 on September 10, 2011 at 6:16 AM
One of the really nasty plots that was uncovered in its infancy post-9/11 was started by a group in the Trinidad & Tabago. It involved the lovely concept of hijacking a liquified natural gas carrier headed to the US, then starting to open the gas vents as it went towards the dock… then introducing a tiny explosion into the mix. It would be the largest fuel air explosive ever detonated in an uncontrolled way. And the shockwave after it sucked air in from the surrounding area would then head outwards. That would first suck air out of nearly everything in a 2-4 blockk radius and then expel it outwards at high velocity at ground level.
Anyone know of any vital areas near water where a large LNG tanker could run up close to it and explode?
The group did have ties to al Qaeda and the UK found the plot and warned T&T… which then pulled the guy in who was the head of his local cult and stopped the plot but then let him out soon afterwards. In theory the government keeps an eye on him. In fact a plot revolving around 5 or 6 people hiding on-board a LNG tanker would be very hard to find or stop. And it would have all the trademarks of al Qaeda. Doesn’t take much to make that a somewhat more ‘dirty’ bomb. Some packages of stuff in lead envelopes. Just a few pounds. Wouldn’t that be a nasty thing to wake up to some fine morning? A major seaside or port area suddenly having some few blocks flattened and being irradiated… and if you had a bridge or tunnel nearby, well, pressure does what it will with those structures… yes I can think of places that I wouldn’t like something like this to happen to…
ajacksonian on September 10, 2011 at 7:09 AM
Mogilevich’s claim to was during the YBM Magnex scandal where he temporarily cornered the market on permanent magnets via the Canadian commodities exchange. He bilked investors, filtered the money out of the country and skipped town before anyone even realized they had been swindled. That was circa ’93-’94. He utilized the part of the money transfer system that had been compromised by confederates at Bank of NY, and that system had hundreds of front companies scattered around the globe which acted as intermediaries for Red Mafia money transfers.
They aren’t just stone cold killers, into white slavery, traffic narcotics from the Golden Triangle, and all the usual stuff… they are into industrial and large scale fraud of a sort that has dwarfed BCCI. I have problems naming other criminal groups that can swindle Russia and get paid, by contract, for their services of up to $10 billion/year. That is ‘profit’ after operating expenses. Mogilevich, Marc Rich and a couple of others spearheaded the legislation that allowed criminal operations to run large industrial complexes in Russia as they were about the only ones who actually understood the concept of ‘profit’.
And all of the organizations, they don’t threaten. Why bother? Some of their opponents get poisoned, some get to have a skydiving session sans parachute, others get themselves irradiated, most usually just get shot/strangled/knifed to death. And that is just what they do overseas. They are much more ruthless at home.
Aren’t we all happy that Holder got Marc Rich a pardon?
So when you hear Mexican drug cartels linking up with Red Mafia organizations and helping to smuggle people into the US from the Middle East… why… its like we just love being attacked on all fronts, now, doesn’t it? Be a shame if criminals got in charge of the Mexican petroleum system, wouldn’t it? The drug cartels don’t think on that scale… they are in the pocket change business. The Red Mafia, however, extorts money from Iran, swindles Russia and jacks up prices on natural gas going through Eastern Europe headed towards Western Europe. Be shame to have that happen to the US, now, wouldn’t it?
ajacksonian on September 10, 2011 at 7:22 AM
This story can’y possibly be true. If al Mauratania is disclosing vital information to the Pakistanis then he is certainly being subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques and the pristinely ethical Obama administration would never listen to such reports. In fact, if the Pakistanis had started to report al Mauratanias blatherings there would have been an urgent shipment of ear plugs to Pakistan.
Basilsbest on September 10, 2011 at 7:58 AM
Quick! Surrender your liberty and we will protect you! Hurry!
shawk on September 10, 2011 at 8:31 AM
Terrorists:
– Did you read the NYT this morning?
– Yep. Looks like NYC and DC are locked down.
– Yeah. Guess we’ll have the set the bombs of in Chicago and LA
– Let’s send an Email to the Times thanking them for the heads-up.
– Yeah. What would we do without them?
Rod on September 10, 2011 at 9:05 AM
I’ll take your word for it I guess.
labrat on September 10, 2011 at 9:55 AM
Church. Oh, no, I guess not. Never mind.
MikeA on September 10, 2011 at 10:00 AM
Libs are hoping the bombs go off for 2 reasons.
1. It will kill Americans and dead Americans is always a good thing.
2. Obama finally gets to show his super duper leader skills.
angryed on September 10, 2011 at 10:22 AM
This story stinks.
It reels of George Orwell’s “Ministry of Truth”.
Skandia Recluse on September 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Have you forgotten?
kingsjester on September 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM
sigh…reeks, of course, not ‘reels’.
cataracts and numbness in my fingers….
old age sucks…
Skandia Recluse on September 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM
I hope this is just an empty threat or if it isnt that our law enforcement/intel guys stop it.
In related news AQ got its hands on perhaps twenty thousand stinger like SAMS capable of knocking out aircraft at 11,000 feet.
They only need to manage to smuggle a couple across one of our open borders.
Of course, Israel is much closer to Libya where they got them.
dogsoldier on September 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM
My money is on golf and food.
dogsoldier on September 10, 2011 at 11:20 AM
I actually had a horrible dream a few nights ago about some nuclear incident in NYC. I made sure to have business to attend to upstate this weekend…
ernesto on September 10, 2011 at 11:47 AM
No sweat. Napolitano is on the job, keeping a sharp eye out for white homegrown suspects affiliated with flyover militias.
tpitman on September 10, 2011 at 11:57 AM
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