College demands 9/11 tribute include flags from other countries — or face cancellation

posted at 7:25 pm on September 9, 2011 by Tina Korbe

The divisive developments surrounding planned 9/11 commemoratives continue to disappoint. Administrators at Marietta College in Ohio, for example, created a controversy over one student’s planned display of 2,977 American flags — one for each person who died in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The Blaze reports:

After receiving initial permission from the college to hold the memorial, [Sarah] Snow, a junior, said she received a second email saying the vigil would not be allowed unless it also included flags from the other countries too.

In a post on the Young America’s Foundation website, an organization for conservative students, Snow said her “jaw dropped” when she read the email.

“Why should we place the extra flags anyways? It was an attack on AMERICANS, AMERICAN ideals, AMERICAN capitalism, defense, and freedom,” she wrote. “The World Trade Center wasn’t hit because a Chinese accountant was working that morning; it was hit because American capitalists were there.”

When Snow visited the student life office, administrators told her they didn’t want a negative reaction from international students at the school — but Snow hadn’t received any complaints from international students, anyway.

At the very least, the PC police at Marietta College lack even a sense of the artistry of 2,977 flags of the same stars and stripes, the aesthetics of uniformity. Sheerly as a display, 2,977 U.S. flags make a far more striking statement than would a mixture of flags.

But at the most, Marietta’s administrators miss the poignancy of the post-9/11 patriotism that flourished across the country — and the poignancy of the opportunity to recall that period of a national consciousness, a renewed awareness that such a person as an “American” does, in fact, exist — and stands, as ever, for the ideals enshrined in our founding documents (the equality of persons before the law, inalienable rights, a government which derives its power from the consent of the governed, etc.) and for the practices historically embodied in our culture, including the capitalistic practices that led to our profound prosperity. It’s also to miss that America has always existed as an invitation to those who want to try freedom over the high-priced security of a nanny state or dictatorship — and that its flag is internationally recognized as a symbol of that freedom. To place flags in such a way as to count citizens of other countries among Americans is not to diminish their citizenship in their home countries but rather to express that they fell on the side of America in a visible, tangible, horrific clash between the Islamist terrorist’s worldview and the American’s worldview.

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I simply love the diversity and tolerance shown by our young people.

*spit

The 9/11 anniversary should not be political, period.

carbon_footprint on September 9, 2011 at 7:27 PM

idiots, on the bright side the US government pours hundreds of billions of dumb loans to keep these guys afloat, oh wait.

rob verdi on September 9, 2011 at 7:28 PM

then cancel ya know-it-all a-holes.

RealMc on September 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM

What, do they want to see an Afghanistan flag?

John the Libertarian on September 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM

*****************CIVILITY*********************************

canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

why don’t American students start protesting this stuff? will the college administration pay attention to their concerns?

I say agree to cancel the tribute and get rid of the 2977 flags they were going to plant and have the student body congregate on campus with bigger flags and signs reading, “does our opinion matter?”

ramrants on September 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Here’s an idea – Give 17 Saudi, UAE, and Egyptian flags to the complaining party to represent the hijackers.

I don’t think they’ll like that one, but it will get the point across.

teke184 on September 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Sleeping America yawns again.

this Political Correctness is suicide for this country.

PappyD61 on September 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

You know, you make a great point. Very pertinent.

carbon_footprint on September 9, 2011 at 7:32 PM

But at the most, Marietta’s administrators miss the poignancy of the post-9/11 patriotism that flourished across the country

I don’t think they missed it at all. I think they were repulsed by it.

Socratease on September 9, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Can somebody fly a plane into the college’s office?

Vegi on September 9, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Here’s an idea – Give 17 Saudi, UAE, and Egyptian flags to the complaining party to represent the hijackers.

I don’t think they’ll like that one, but it will get the point across.

teke184 on September 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Yes!

clnurnberg on September 9, 2011 at 7:33 PM

So what happens if the students go ahead with their tribute and say is our 1st to fly the American flag? Do it and wait for the law to stop them.
L

letget on September 9, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!!!!!!!

USMCDevilDog on September 9, 2011 at 7:34 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

It is a huge problem when mandatory.

Wade on September 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Let’s see the emails. That’ll immediately clear this up.

This is what happens in a PC world. Shared suffering, to paraphrase a term from Our Glorious Leader.

madmonkphotog on September 9, 2011 at 7:36 PM

“Why should we place the extra flags anyways? It was an attack on AMERICANS, AMERICAN ideals, AMERICAN capitalism, defense, and freedom,” she wrote. “The World Trade Center wasn’t hit because a Chinese accountant was working that morning; it was hit because American capitalists were there”
=================================

Primary Target was America/Americans!

Secondary Target,and a twisted Serendipity was
Collateral Damage,of other nationalities!!

So now,it appears that every feel-good do-gooder,holier
than thou Lefty,wants to run their own little “Politically
Correct(ive) Party”,er,Memorial!!

canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 7:37 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/us-condemns-dangerous-west-bank-mosque-attacks-225053033.html

US condemns ‘dangerous’ West Bank mosque attacks

Such hateful actions are never justified. Those responsible should be arrested and subject to the full force of the law,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.

Three mosques have been sprayed with graffiti in Hebrew since Monday

William Amos on September 9, 2011 at 7:37 PM

One more college to cross off my list.

ctmom on September 9, 2011 at 7:38 PM

When Snow visited the student life office, administrators told her they didn’t want a negative reaction from international students at the school — but Snow hadn’t received any complaints from international students, anyway.

I hate to tell ya school pencil neck geek administrator……someone, somewhere, somehow, someday is going to do something to piss the kids off and they will need to know how to deal with it. If their offended let them do something uniquely American, protest it and put forth your ideals in instead of being a W.I.M.P.

Do the school allow US Flag on Cinco de Mayo aka Cinco-d-Drinko day? Or would that offend a protected group?

VikingGoneWild on September 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Specifically, the dean said that the American flags would be an insult to Muslims and Chinese. Hmmm. Interesting choices for concern.
Muslims attacked us, so we must not hurt their feelings? What about Muslim patriots? I think we all know the implied answer there.
There are none. American haters all.
As for Chinese. I know hurting the feelings of a communist enemy nation is harsh, but I suggest the Chinese students simply don’t care. The Chinese have a love of their own country far deeper than that of this college administrators love for America. And therefore our patriotism is a nonissue to them.

pat on September 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1364489&srvc=rss

Gov. Deval Patrick flatly refused to take a side on whether the Pledge of Allegiance should be banned in schools, dodging questions on Brookline’s controversy over patriotism yesterday.

“I don’t have to have an opinion on everything,” said Patrick, who is co-chairman of President Obama’s 2012 national campaign committee and believed to harbor presidential ambitions himself. He threw up his hands with a dismissive raspberry noise as he spoke.

William Amos on September 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM

There was a time when going to university meant you would learn something

Kini on September 9, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Not too much can get my blood boiling…but PC crud like this certainly does. Friggin’ liberals…and they wonder why their patriotism gets questioned…

JetBoy on September 9, 2011 at 7:42 PM

they didn’t want a negative reaction from international students at the school — but Snow hadn’t received any complaints from international students, anyway.

The administrators don’t accept that the values of the United States were the target of the attacks. The America flag represents our values. The other flags only project their intent to diminish that truth.

scrubjay on September 9, 2011 at 7:43 PM

It’s like when certain people were calling for the statue of the three guys who hoisted the American flag on the rubble of the twin towers to be one black, one hispanic, and one white…when all three happened to be white.

JetBoy on September 9, 2011 at 7:43 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

I have no problem with this either, however you know that’s not what they meant.

If they had, then they would have said sure, but would you mind substituting flags for those who were from other countries.

The way this looks, it is PC run amok.

INC on September 9, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Link to President.

http://www.marietta.edu/people/cabinet.html

derft on September 9, 2011 at 7:44 PM

87% of those killed on 9/11 were Americans.

The largest number of foreigners killed were from the UK (65 victims).

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2011 at 7:44 PM

I don’t travel outside of the country much, but do Americans complain about other countries not being inclusive as much as we seem to get. We have to include this or make somebody mad. Is this an evil little thing that just goes on here?

tomas on September 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Specifically, the dean said that the American flags would be an insult to Muslims and Chinese.

I missed that part.

It is PC run amuck–which is an oxymoron, I suppose, because PC always runs amuck.

INC on September 9, 2011 at 7:45 PM

I actually understand both viewpoints; there were a fair number of people from other countries killed (372). While the attack was on America, this was a global tragedy. And displaying the other flags as a smaller cluster would NOT take away from the American tragedy.

But the school should ASK for the consideration, not order it.

michaelo on September 9, 2011 at 7:47 PM

What if the Young America’s Foundation DO NOT Comply?

I guess then the Administrators at Marietta College, will shave the Young America’s Foundation heads and send them to the re-education camps. This is what happens when you have The Appeaser and Chief sitting in the Oval office! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

USMCDevilDog on September 9, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Just tell them it is an artistic representation of the Le Monde “We are all Americans” headline. If they don’t like it, tell them you’ll replace the flags with crosses.

rw on September 9, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Isn’t wonderful to see free speech principles so vigorously adhered to in academia?

Or at least it would be, if they had any understanding about what they are.

Anon Y. Mous on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Do it anyway and invite the media.

multiuseless on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

F@#$ them.

F@#$ them.

F@#% them and f@## them and f%$9 them all.

Get the @#%$ out of my country.

Sorry. I don’t know what else to say.

Professor Blather on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

That would mean 5 flags of the nation of Israel, and that will cause even greater problems with the far left.

slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

If they don’t like it, tell them you’ll replace the flags with crosses.

rw on September 9, 2011 at 7:48 PM

What do ya wanna do, give those lefties heart attacks?

JetBoy on September 9, 2011 at 7:50 PM

On American soil…

Fallon on September 9, 2011 at 7:51 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

It is a huge problem when mandatory.

Wade on September 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM

It’s a private college, and I don’t think that really qualifies as “mandatory”.

Now, if the post on the YAF forum is accurate, I do think the college dropped the ball on communication, and if the cause really was the fear of the reaction from international students the administration was being ridiculous. However, there are a couple of reasons, offhand, why I think the victims should be represented by their own countries’ flags:

1. Yes, 9/11 was an attack on American soil against American values, but including the other nations’ flags would point out that it wasn’t JUST an attack on America; other countries suffered collateral damage.

2. When I was in the army, I was just an REMF in peacetime. However, if I had been killed in an attack out in a club or something off post, I would have wanted to be remembered with a flag of the USA, not the FRG, if it came down to it.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Simple solution: choose 2977 crosses instead like at the Normandy war memorial.

AnotherOpinion on September 9, 2011 at 7:55 PM

There was a time when going to university meant you would learn something

Kini on September 9, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Kini:Aloha,and it reminds me of the OBL Snuffation Double Tap,
where the George Mason University Democrat students,headed
to the White House gates,to celebrate,and it became a scream
ing match,with the Republican students waving the American
flag,and the Lefty’s screaming them down,with “Yes We Can”,
“Four More Years”!!!

Yup,the Lefty’s are selective,when they need to wave the flag,
when it serves their political interests!!:)

canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 7:58 PM

To place flags in such a way as to count citizens of other countries among Americans is not to diminish their citizenship in their home countries but rather to express that they fell on the side of America in a visible, tangible, horrific clash between the Islamist terrorist’s worldview and the American’s worldview.

nice work tina. you’re right.

ted c on September 9, 2011 at 7:59 PM

F@#$ them.
F@#$ them.
F@#% them and f@## them and f%$9 them all.
Get the @#%$ out of my country.
Sorry. I don’t know what else to say.
Professor Blather on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

That’s all that needs to be said

blatantblue on September 9, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Simple solution: choose 2977 crosses instead like at the Normandy war memorial.

AnotherOpinion on September 9, 2011 at 7:55 PM

AnotherOpinion:Brilliant idea,accept,the Left will have a new
target,religion…*sigh*!

canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 7:59 PM

I have no problem with this either, however you know that’s not what they meant.

INC on September 9, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Maybe not, but the college did say they wanted the flags of the other countries that had losses, so they would not have had any further grounds for complaint.

That would mean 5 flags of the nation of Israel, and that will cause even greater problems with the far left.

slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

I consider that a happy bonus.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 8:00 PM

From the Marietta site:

Starting at 5 a.m., Sunday, Sept. 11, College Republicans are going to place 2,977 American flags, as well as complementary flags provided by Student Life to represent the other countries impacted by the attack.

Snow said the flags will remain up through the candlelight vigil. She says they also plan to hand out “Remember 9/11” buttons.

“I was in fifth grade when 9/11 happened and it was very traumatic,” Snow said. “I think that one event really changed the outlook a lot of us have on life. The past few years there hasn’t been too much on campus on the anniversary of Sept. 11, so we wanted to do something extra this year.”

Josiah on September 9, 2011 at 8:02 PM

F@#$ them.
F@#$ them.
F@#% them and f@## them and f%$9 them all.
Get the @#%$ out of my country.
Sorry. I don’t know what else to say.

Professor Blather on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

That’s all that needs to be said

blatantblue on September 9, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Oh, I can think of a few more to add…

JetBoy on September 9, 2011 at 8:03 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

That’s very honorable of you. So how about you figuring out how many foreign nationals from various countries died in 9-11, purchasing/making a bunch of foreign flags and driving them to an Ohio college in the middle of nowhere in time for the ceremony?

bw222 on September 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM

I actually understand both viewpoints; there were a fair number of people from other countries killed (372). While the attack was on America, this was a global tragedy. And displaying the other flags as a smaller cluster would NOT take away from the American tragedy.

But the school should ASK for the consideration, not order it.

michaelo on September 9, 2011 at 7:47 PM

I agree that foreign flags are OK. And they should be a separate grouping.

As for that 372 number…

1. Immediately subtract 19 from that number, as it includes the hijackers.

2. Most foreign countries had only 1 or 2 of their citizens killed. If there were a single flag by nationality for each victim, the number of American flags would still vastly outnumber any others.

3. More First Responders died that day than foreigners. And they aren’t even invited to the ceremony in New York.

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2011 at 8:11 PM

This in a nutshell is the root of our Republic`s woes. I am at a loss for words so I will leave it to the esteemed Professor Blather…

F@#$ them.
F@#$ them.
F@#% them and f@## them and f%$9 them all.
Get the @#%$ out of my country.

NY Conservative on September 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Remember the US Flag and garbage can ordeal!

t’s actually very symbolic of the party if you ask me!! The do as I say not as I do party… http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion/2008/09/06/republican-recycling/ This morning,

Republicans tell me that a worker at Invesco Field in Denver saved thousands of unused flags from the Democratic National Convention
that were headed for the garbage.
*********************************
**********************************

Guerrilla campaigning. They will use these flags at their own event today in Colorado Springs with John McCain and Sarah Palin. Before McCain speaks today, veterans will haul these garbage bags filled with flags out onto the stage — with dramatic effect, no doubt — and tell the story. “What you see in the picture I sent you is less than half of total flags,” a Republican official emailed. “We estimate the total number to be around 12,000 small flags and one full size 3×5 flag.”
———————————-

http://www.qubetv.tv/photos/detail/63106

canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 8:13 PM

PC will kill us all.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2011 at 8:19 PM

I hate to admit this but I went to Marietta for two years back in the 60s. It was full of Harvard, Yale, Vassar, etc. wannabes from the NE who couldn’t get into those schools. Also there was a separate Jewish fraternity and at least one fraternity that had a White-Christian membership clause. It was so pseudo-preppy it oozed pink and green and khaki. It really thought of itself as sort of Ivy League. I transferred out.

Deanna on September 9, 2011 at 8:20 PM

There was a time when going to university meant you would learn something

Kini on September 9, 2011 at 7:40 PM

These kids will learn something important.
What they’ll learn from this is just how tolerant and clear thinking their liberal administrators are.

justltl on September 9, 2011 at 8:22 PM

That’s very honorable of you. So how about you figuring out how many foreign nationals from various countries died in 9-11, purchasing/making a bunch of foreign flags and driving them to an Ohio college in the middle of nowhere in time for the ceremony?

bw222 on September 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM

I wish I could. However, in this instance I was speaking hypothetically… I had not at that time read the YAF post. Mea culpa.

I noted in a subsequent comment that I do believe that the college dropped the ball in communication. The request to include the other flags should have been made in June, when the request was approved.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Odd, I don’t recall any other flags being flown on my street immediately after 9/11.

GarandFan on September 9, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Typical proooogreeeesiiiiive liiiibeeeraaaalllls!! They don’t get it now, they didn’t get it on 9/11, and they will never get it.

ultracon on September 9, 2011 at 8:28 PM

If any of the international students wants to fly their country’s flag that day in memoriam, so be it. But basically forbidding an American memorial because it doesn’t consider the feelings of EVERYONE is absurd. If they don’t like the fact that they attend school in AMERICA, let them go to school somewhere else.

lynncgb on September 9, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Typical proooogreeeesiiiiive liiiibeeeraaaalllls!! They don’t get it now, they didn’t get it on 9/11, and they will never get it.

ultracon on September 9, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Ohhhhh…they get it alright, any excuse or means of shredding the fabric that is America.

NY Conservative on September 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM

I work at the college that I graduated from and I saw little flags that surrounded the entire campus green that is in the center of the school. All American. That’s how we do it in the South.

Go Owls!

RDE2010 on September 9, 2011 at 8:39 PM

They say that over half of the deaths were among the Muslim first responders. There should be a majority of Saudi flags (By protocol they must be twice the size and fly at twice the height of the American flags).

/CAIR

BL@KBIRD on September 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Many countries came to America’s aid after 9/11 – it is proper that they receive some acknowledgement. It’s only fair. Heck, five years ago I passed through Antietam, MD on Memorial Day – they flew Afghani and Iraqi flags. I don’t see why UK, Canadian, German, Swedish, New Zealand and even French flags can’t be displayed.

KillerKane on September 9, 2011 at 8:47 PM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

They can have their own flags in their own countries–this is America, and we have no business flying other flags here Yes, I’m a hard nose about this–it might be different if they died defending this country, but they didn’t.

lynncgb on September 9, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I heart you, lynncgb.

DrMagnolias on September 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Wow – I wonder how many foreign students are enrolled in this college of 1,417 students. Seventeen, maybe?

herdgadfly on September 9, 2011 at 8:54 PM

They can have their own flags in their own countries–this is America, and we have no business flying other flags here Yes, I’m a hard nose about this–it might be different if they died defending this country, but they didn’t.

DrMagnolias on September 9, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Or fight with us in Iraq and Afghanistan? Many foreign soldiers have fought side by side with our men and women, and many have been wounded and killed. Same goes for Korea and Vietnam.

I’m embarrassed as an American to hear so many Americans still insulting the French. Not enthralled with their leadership at any given point in time, but the French and Americans have shed a lot of blood together. We should at least show some respect for those men.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 9, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Here’s an idea – Give 17 Saudi, UAE, and Egyptian flags to the complaining party to represent the hijackers.

I don’t think they’ll like that one, but it will get the point across.

teke184 on September 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM

I suspect that if Ms. Snow brought those 17 flags and put them out there, she would meet the letter of the requirement levied upon her. If she were asked the meaning of the flags by the administrators, she could merely state that her research indicated that these flags and their numbers were in accordance with other nationalities which died on 9/11.

KillerKane on September 9, 2011 at 8:47 PM

We are commemorating an attack on America. Your statement could equally apply to an observance of Pearl Harbor Day — yet another day where I choose to fly our Flag and no other. And, perhaps we should inform the British that it’s only fair that our flag also be flown at their Tomb of the Unknown Warrior since they so gratiously accepted the Medal of Honor we awarded him.

unclesmrgol on September 9, 2011 at 9:12 PM

It is a huge problem when mandatory.

Wade on September 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Yepppp…that’s the problem–manadatory pc compliance so as not to upset others.

Gang-of-One on September 9, 2011 at 9:18 PM

You ever notice how liberals never, ever have a CONSTRUCTIVE thing to add to anything?

For example, did any of the moonbats offer to actually HELP by putting in some of the extra flags they so helpfully said would make this stop being so gosh-darned evilly Ameri-centric?

Of course not. All they want to do is shut it down. If this bizarre demand is met, they’ll just come up with ten more.

logis on September 9, 2011 at 9:20 PM

If it was a public university, you extremist Hot Airheads would have been in one of your unholy, righteous rages. You must be disappointed.

bifidis on September 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM

For example, did any of the moonbats offer to actually HELP by putting in some of the extra flags they so helpfully said would make this stop being so gosh-darned evilly Ameri-centric?

Of course not. All they want to do is shut it down. If this bizarre demand is met, they’ll just come up with ten more.

logis on September 9, 2011 at 9:20 PM

The school is providing the other nations’ flags for the memorial.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Marietta College should include all the other colleges in the nation at all of their events! I think they should also ask for donations for other colleges when during their annual fund raising! I bet they only think of their own college when asking for donations! How insensitive!

You know, there are other colleges out there in the world! They aren’t the only one. Don’t they care about offending people? I bet at their football games and other events they only include their own mascots! Why don’t they have mascots on their side of the field from other colleges? Why aren’t their cheerleaders cheering other teams? More insensitivity!

You know, I bet they even demand the student body to carry student ID cards! The horror!

JellyToast on September 9, 2011 at 9:31 PM

That’s Rich Galen’s alma mater, he ought to be real proud of them.

JimK on September 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM

What is wrong with these eggheads? I mean, seriously. You’d think they don’t know what country they’re in.

Murf76 on September 9, 2011 at 9:40 PM

,accept,the Left will have a new
target,religion…*sigh*!

canopfor on September 9, 2011 at 7:59 PM

A new target? They’ve been going after religion for decades.

chewmeister on September 9, 2011 at 9:49 PM

The school is providing the other nations’ flags for the memorial.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 9:29 PM

That’s so thoughtful of them./s

chewmeister on September 9, 2011 at 9:51 PM

I’m really starting to wonder what people here think the 2977 flags represent. Maybe I’ve got it wrong in thinking they’re supposed to be memorials to the victims.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Mash that up with the return that we should unite to Jesus Christ so America can prosper spiritually, and well, yeah, *ducks*

ProudPalinFan on September 9, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I’m really starting to wonder what people here think the 2977 flags represent. Maybe I’ve got it wrong in thinking they’re supposed to be memorials to the victims.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM

A few days after the attacks happened and all these deaths were accounted for, the list went by country. Sadly, Puerto Rico lost many, many people that day too, second to Americans – same but US Territory.

The countries with lives lost were broken down-in a way to unite against evil, that the terrorists killed someone-for example from Scotland-so that they realize that they do have a bone in this fight and, well, you know, *ducks*

ProudPalinFan on September 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM

While Americans were the majority representation on 9/11, there were plenty of other nations who lost countrymen that day. I see nothing wrong with planting flags for those people in their national colors. That’s not political correctness, that’s honor and dignity.

Now, planting flags so the “Muslims and Chinese” don’t get upset is silly. Which Muslims? The American, Somali, Saudi, Indonesian, etc, etc, etc. That smacks more of academic bureaucracy.

It looks like they worked it out, and that’s the best outcome.

Bigurn on September 9, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Here’s an idea – Give 17 Saudi, UAE, and Egyptian flags to the complaining party to represent the hijackers. I don’t think they’ll like that one, but it will get the point across.
teke184 on September 9, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Put the American flags in the shape of a building, and the Muslim flags in the shape of an airplane.

This is the big problem with liberalism: in their minds, reality always sends the wrong message.

logis on September 9, 2011 at 10:28 PM

2. When I was in the army, I was just an REMF in peacetime. However, if I had been killed in an attack out in a club or something off post, I would have wanted to be remembered with a flag of the USA, not the FRG, if it came down to it.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:53 PM

You’ve convinced me.

unclesmrgol on September 9, 2011 at 10:30 PM

Wouldn’t want to hurt anybody’s little feelers, don’t ya know.

mchristian on September 9, 2011 at 11:46 PM

Update: The college now says that the student may use only American flags if she will burn them during the vigil.

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Knott Buyinit on September 9, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Can somebody fly a plane into the college’s office?

Vegi on September 9, 2011 at 7:33 PM

..actually, what about an R/C model? That’d scare the puss out of ‘em.

The War Planner on September 10, 2011 at 12:13 AM

My memory isn’t what it once was, but hasn’t Marietta of Ohio been the source of several previous leftist PC outrages over the years, going back to the ’80s? Aren’t they known as a far-left enclave which pulls some publicity stunt every few years in just this fashion?

Adjoran on September 10, 2011 at 12:24 AM

If it was a public university, you extremist Hot Airheads would have been in one of your unholy, righteous rages. You must be disappointed.

bifidis on September 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM

LOL, how can a “Hot Airhead” be unholy and righteous at the same time, except in your unparallel universe?

Beam Me Up, Minerva!

Del Dolemonte on September 10, 2011 at 12:25 AM

pat on September 9, 2011 at 7:39 PM
Zuhdi Jasser is muslim and a patriot. There’s a muslim kid who was killed over in the Sandbox…who’s buried @ Arlington. His family said that’s what he would have wanted. That kid was a patriot too.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM

Yeah right. He was a big man on modernism in Islam.
Go play this out on someone else. Put your wife in her bag and cut her clit off because you care.

pat on September 10, 2011 at 2:11 AM

pat spat: What about Muslim patriots?… There are none. American haters all… Put your wife in her bag and cut her clit off

Does somebody need a timeout?

Tell us more. What about Secular Muslims?

The St. Petersburg Declaration
April 5, 2007
We are secular Muslims, and secular persons of Muslim societies. We are believers, doubters, and unbelievers, brought together by a great struggle, not between the West and Islam, but between the free and the unfree.

We affirm the inviolable freedom of the individual conscience. We believe in the equality of all human persons.

We insist upon the separation of religion from state and the observance of universal human rights.

We find traditions of liberty, rationality, and tolerance in the rich histories of pre-Islamic and Islamic societies. These values do not belong to the West or the East; they are the common moral heritage of humankind.

We see no colonialism, racism, or so-called “Islamaphobia” in submitting Islamic practices to criticism or condemnation when they violate human reason or rights.

We call on the governments of the world to

reject Sharia law, fatwa courts, clerical rule, and state-sanctioned religion in all their forms; oppose all penalties for blasphemy and apostasy, in accordance with Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human rights;
eliminate practices, such as female circumcision, honor killing, forced veiling, and forced marriage, that further the oppression of women;
protect sexual and gender minorities from persecution and violence;
reform sectarian education that teaches intolerance and bigotry towards non-Muslims;
and foster an open public sphere in which all matters may be discussed without coercion or intimidation.
We demand the release of Islam from its captivity to the totalitarian ambitions of power-hungry men and the rigid strictures of orthodoxy.

We enjoin academics and thinkers everywhere to embark on a fearless examination of the origins and sources of Islam, and to promulgate the ideals of free scientific and spiritual inquiry through cross-cultural translation, publishing, and the mass media.

We say to Muslim believers: there is a noble future for Islam as a personal faith, not a political doctrine;

to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baha’is, and all members of non-Muslim faith communities: we stand with you as free and equal citizens;

and to nonbelievers: we defend your unqualified liberty to question and dissent.

Before any of us is a member of the Umma, the Body of Christ, or the Chosen People, we are all members of the community of conscience, the people who must choose for themselves.

Endorsed by:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Magdi Allam
Mithal Al-Alusi
Shaker Al-Nabulsi
Nonie Darwish
Afshin Ellian
Tawfik Hamid
Shahriar Kabir
Hasan Mahmud
Wafa Sultan
Amir Taheri
Ibn Warraq
Manda Zand Ervin
Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

Terp Mole on September 10, 2011 at 5:12 AM

Elsewhere in taxpayer-funded wacademia…

For the 10th anniversary of 9/11, University of Maryland hosted yet another outrageous pro-sharia lecture (this year by Yasir Qadhi) at Stamp Union.

Yasir Qadhi’s Houston-based Ilmquest infamously hawked jihad incitement CDs by Al-Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki shortly after the Ft. Hood massacre.

Video: Yasir Qadhi preaching Holocaust denial

Your taxpayer-funded facilities at work.

Terp Mole on September 10, 2011 at 5:17 AM

Why are foreign students coming to America for an education if our ways are the curse of the West? Why must we bow to their demands? They have the freedom in this country to speak their minds that carries a death sentence in their own countries so why do they want us to be like their culture? It’s getting crazier by the day.

mixplix on September 10, 2011 at 5:22 AM

ok how about 2997 american and Israeli flags then?

if the flags were wrapped around important non muslim religious symbols and dropped in jars of urine it would be art and thus ok to use all american flags. perhaps a NEA grant would become available to fund buying the flags.

“Why are foreign students coming to America for an education if our ways are the curse of the West?”

because that’s how they are going about destroying us-from within. and decades of suicidal self loathing-guilt indoctrination by liberals via education and the media has handed them the weapons to succeed.

mittens on September 10, 2011 at 5:37 AM

Professor Blather on September 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM

That pretty well covers it. Thank you.

DrMagnolias on September 10, 2011 at 6:54 AM

Terp Mole on September 10, 2011 at 5:12 AM

There is no such thing as a “secular Muslim,” any more than there is a secular Christian.

DrMagnolias on September 10, 2011 at 7:00 AM

“The World Trade Center wasn’t hit because a Chinese accountant was working that morning; it was hit because American capitalism and liberty were there.”

The Chinese accountant was there because of American capitalism and liberty, either indirectly because of the prosperity that it brings or directly because of persecution. I’d rather see proportional representation of casualties from each nation, but it’s their ceremony. Unless it’s violent, leave them alone.

elfman on September 10, 2011 at 7:09 AM

Secular Muslims

Terp Mole on September 10, 2011 at 5:12 AM

Sounds nice, but I bet less than 5% of Muslims would agree with that, probably less than 25% in the US. Knowingly or not, they’d be renouncing large parts of the Quran and the prophet Muhammad.

elfman on September 10, 2011 at 7:31 AM

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