College demands 9/11 tribute include flags from other countries — or face cancellation

posted at 7:25 pm on September 9, 2011 by Tina Korbe

The divisive developments surrounding planned 9/11 commemoratives continue to disappoint. Administrators at Marietta College in Ohio, for example, created a controversy over one student’s planned display of 2,977 American flags — one for each person who died in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The Blaze reports:

After receiving initial permission from the college to hold the memorial, [Sarah] Snow, a junior, said she received a second email saying the vigil would not be allowed unless it also included flags from the other countries too.

In a post on the Young America’s Foundation website, an organization for conservative students, Snow said her “jaw dropped” when she read the email.

“Why should we place the extra flags anyways? It was an attack on AMERICANS, AMERICAN ideals, AMERICAN capitalism, defense, and freedom,” she wrote. “The World Trade Center wasn’t hit because a Chinese accountant was working that morning; it was hit because American capitalists were there.”

When Snow visited the student life office, administrators told her they didn’t want a negative reaction from international students at the school — but Snow hadn’t received any complaints from international students, anyway.

At the very least, the PC police at Marietta College lack even a sense of the artistry of 2,977 flags of the same stars and stripes, the aesthetics of uniformity. Sheerly as a display, 2,977 U.S. flags make a far more striking statement than would a mixture of flags.

But at the most, Marietta’s administrators miss the poignancy of the post-9/11 patriotism that flourished across the country — and the poignancy of the opportunity to recall that period of a national consciousness, a renewed awareness that such a person as an “American” does, in fact, exist — and stands, as ever, for the ideals enshrined in our founding documents (the equality of persons before the law, inalienable rights, a government which derives its power from the consent of the governed, etc.) and for the practices historically embodied in our culture, including the capitalistic practices that led to our profound prosperity. It’s also to miss that America has always existed as an invitation to those who want to try freedom over the high-priced security of a nanny state or dictatorship — and that its flag is internationally recognized as a symbol of that freedom. To place flags in such a way as to count citizens of other countries among Americans is not to diminish their citizenship in their home countries but rather to express that they fell on the side of America in a visible, tangible, horrific clash between the Islamist terrorist’s worldview and the American’s worldview.

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I guess the Administrators forget what the headlines around the world said following Sept. 11:

WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.

And these newspapers were NOT American papers either.

I really hate some highly educated people….I really do.

siwrcw03 on September 10, 2011 at 8:10 AM

I don’t understand why this is a problem.

Posters must not be aware of the huge support from other countries following 9/11.(please look at this it is only 5 mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZiHN3z2o08

If nobody has time ,it shows other countries flying your flag,remembrance books,messages of support,tears,candlelit vigils..

Also here in the U.K the American National Anthem was played at Buckingham Palace ,the first time ever.
Watch this, but it will make you cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwrX-LN9-L0

American’s claim that their losses are not recognised following ww1/2.
There is a Global War on Terror,it would be helpful for American’s and against the terrorists to show unity and respect for other countries victim’s.
All lives being equal,where the non-American victims just collateral damage?
They were killed because they supported America,they deserve to be recognised in full not just by name.

mags on September 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM

cripe….i blame the lib teachers on this one…

shameful

cmsinaz on September 10, 2011 at 9:32 AM

This is the United States, not the United Nations! Obama and his little band of Muslim, Communists, Democrats, are trying to convince Americans that we can no longer be Americans. It won’t work and we will remember in November.

Marco on September 10, 2011 at 9:41 AM

This kind of BS from the administration of the college demonstrates terrorism works.

Wade on September 10, 2011 at 10:15 AM

I would recommend that anyone considering attending or sending their child to Marietta College in Ohio, think about other Universities. Obviously, Marietta College considers itself to be a college of “the world”. If you are an alumni, please remember this stance when you get your bi-semester call for giving to your alma mater. Miami of Ohio….You just got added to our list of colleges to visit. Marietta College of Ohio, not so much.

SandyToes on September 10, 2011 at 10:16 AM

I really hate some highly educated people….I really do.

siwrcw03 on September 10, 2011 at 8:10 AM

Too many are educated beyond their intelligence.

Wade on September 10, 2011 at 10:27 AM

I guess the Administrators forget what the headlines around the world said following Sept. 11:

WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.

And these newspapers were NOT American papers either.

I really hate some highly educated people….I really do.

siwrcw03 on September 10, 2011 at 8:10 AM

Even on 9/12/01, if you read beyond the famous Le Monde headline, the story was blaming the US and saying we had it coming.

Haiku Guy on September 10, 2011 at 10:29 AM

mags on September 10, 2011 at 9:12 AM

More relativistic pap.

Using your logic - all lives being equal – we should be sure to place some Saudi flags and Egyptian flags to commemorate the terrorists themselves since, after all, they gave their lives too, right?

catmman on September 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

I see no problem if the victims who were citizens of other countries are represented by the flags of those countries.

malclave on September 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM

That’s very honorable of you. So how about you figuring out how many foreign nationals from various countries died in 9-11, purchasing/making a bunch of foreign flags and driving them to an Ohio college in the middle of nowhere in time for the ceremony?

bw222 on September 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM

If your point is that the Student Organization shouldn’t be on the hook for last minute expenses dictated by the administration, I agree. If this was what the college wanted, they should have said so early and possibly provided some means of helping fund it.

But saying your can have a memorial as long as you remember what we want remembered hardly seems indicative of an environment open to ideas.

The good news is that the College is claiming this was all a misunderstanding and that they were only REQUESTING/SUGGESTING the inclusion of the other flags.

OBQuiet on September 10, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Instead of American flag, had she had put giant plastic vaginas on top of each flag pole or rainbow flags or palestinian flags or some other PC-approved symbols, the school administration would be pee’ing themselves while gushing flowery praise in the densest academese “informing” everyone of the “importance” of Ms. Snow’s display and how it speaks “essential truths about the realities of American imperialism and aggression until President Obama (PBUH) put a stop to it”.. and stuff.

She’d probably get a full ride scholarship…

DrDeano on September 10, 2011 at 10:45 AM

While there is certainly a heavy dose of PC involved in this, I can understand the point about other flags, however.

After all, how would everyone here feel if they happened to be killed in a terrorist attack abroad (let say France). Would everyone here really be perfectly happy being memorialized by a French flag instead of an American flag?

I didn’t think so.

JFS61 on September 10, 2011 at 10:47 AM

@mags on September 10, 2011:

I believe you misunderstand the attitude of an American patriot on 9/11. I believe that Ms. Snow nor anyone one here has anything but complete appreciation and gratitude for all those from other nations that were murdered that day and for the true support America received from the people of foreign nations and their governments on, and after 9/11.

The issue is that Ms. Snow is trying to honor all those slaughtered by the Islamic terrorists that day in a fashion that shows unity against the evil that slaughtered all those people – and among all the flags of the world the American flag is uniquely identified with that day like no other.

I’m certain that Ms. Snow is neither dishonoring nor diminishing those people from other nations that were killed that day.

On the contrary, in the context of 9/11, the American flag represents everyone, of any nationality, who believes in freedom from the forces of totalitarian theocracy and who stands for life over death.

Had the terrorists attacked Paris, France on 9/11 instead of America, we’d be honoring all the dead with French flags on that day.

DrDeano on September 10, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Ahhh….The real reason Marietta College of Ohio is against the US flag tribute of 9/11 ….http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/20/shock-study-us-flag-only-boosts-gop

SandyToes on September 10, 2011 at 11:31 AM

I am sure some Japanese pilots of those torpedo bombers were killed at Pearl Harbor but it’s not a good idea to put a flag with the Rising Sun there.

Herb on September 10, 2011 at 12:08 PM

I urge the organizers of the event to proceed: go ahead and plant the flags.

Then surround the field with volunteers bearing cameras to record any person who dares to either remove an American flag, or add a foreign flag. Make it known that pictures and names will be published as widely as possible.

landlines on September 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM

catmman on September 10, 2011 at 10:38 AM

So you don’t see any difference between the terrorists and victims from other countries?

DrDeano on September 10, 2011 at 11:09 AM

that shows unity against the evil that slaughtered all those people – and among all the flags of the world the American flag is uniquely identified with that day like no other.

Isn’t it better to show unity with other countries against evil.
It’s not instead of U.S flag,it’s as well as.
I think we all know it happened in America you don’t need to disguise the identity of victims to prove this.

Fly the U.S flag,just don’t fly each one to represent a victim that the families wouldn’t associate their loved one with.

mags on September 10, 2011 at 2:13 PM

@ mags, I think you’re parsing hairs here. To me the problem is the university is trying to interject it’s self where it doesn’t belong. As I understand it is a private tribute. If the student is asking for monies from the school to accomplish then, then they do have a say. If they want to do a tribute w/o monies from the school then the school can STFU.

ColdWarrior57 on September 10, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Ahhh….The real reason Marietta College of Ohio is against the US flag tribute of 9/11 ….http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/20/shock-study-us-flag-only-boosts-gop

SandyToes on September 10, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Lol. Ohh yes I forgot about that, You hit the nail on the head!

ColdWarrior57 on September 10, 2011 at 3:19 PM

After all, how would everyone here feel if they happened to be killed in a terrorist attack abroad

JFS61 on September 10, 2011 at 10:47 AM

I imagine it doesn’t feel that much different than being killed in a terrorist attack here.

RINO in Name Only on September 10, 2011 at 8:01 PM

There is that Ummah Babble again. It sounds and is creepy. Working out well in Iran, huh. Pakistan is like Paradise On Earth.
The fact is the higher the Muslims count in population the more violence, misogyny, illiteracy, war, and even disease. As far a personal freedom….well this is easy. Take a trip to any muslim run country. They make Mexico look like Disney Land.

pat on September 11, 2011 at 2:22 AM

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