AP fact check skewers Porkulus II: Economic Boogaloo speech
posted at 8:45 am on September 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
In Barack Obama’s speech to the joint session of Congress, the President emphasized that his new jobs plan had four specific qualities that made it easy to pass this bill immediately, as Obama chanted repeatedly during his speech. His plan would be fully funded, it would not add to the deficit, it would create jobs immediately, and it was chock-full of bipartisan ideas. The Associated Press fact-checked these claims, and found them all false.
Paid for? No:
Obama did not spell out exactly how he would pay for the measures contained in his nearly $450 billion American Jobs Act but said he would send his proposed specifics in a week to the new congressional supercommittee charged with finding budget savings. White House aides suggested that new deficit spending in the near term to try to promote job creation would be paid for in the future – the “out years,” in legislative jargon – but they did not specify what would be cut or what revenues they would use.
Essentially, the jobs plan is an IOU from a president and lawmakers who may not even be in office down the road when the bills come due.
Bipartisan? Uh-uh:
Obama’s proposed cut in the Social Security payroll tax does seem likely to garner significant GOP support. But Obama proposes paying for the plan in part with tax increases that have already generated stiff Republican opposition.
For instance, Obama makes a pitch anew to end Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, which he has defined as couples earning over $250,000 a year or individuals over $200,000 a year. Republicans have adamantly blocked what they view as new taxes. As recently as last month, House Republicans refused to go along with any deal to raise the government’s borrowing authority that included new revenues, or taxes.
Deficit-neutral? Negative:
It’s hard to see how the program would not raise the deficit over the next year or two because most of the envisioned spending cuts and tax increases are designed to come later rather than now, when they could jeopardize the fragile recovery.
And immediately effective? Not even close:
One is to set up a national infrastructure bank to raise private capital for roads, rail, bridges, airports and waterways. Even supporters of such a bank doubt it could have much impact on jobs in the next two years because it takes time to set up.
The AP doesn’t address Obama’s insistence that this package will work at all, and rightly so, since that is more of a political analysis than a fact check. However, the same elements Obama insisted last night would stimulate job growth were the same elements that comprised the 2009 stimulus bill. We have the same speeded-up infrastructure spending (this time masquerading as an “infrastructure bank”), the same money for state bailouts dressed up as rescue packages for teachers and first responders, the same Making Work Pay-type temporary tax cut for workers, and a “hiring tax credit” that flopped when Jimmy Carter first tried it.
Obama didn’t offer one single new idea last night. He didn’t even offer an idea on how to pay for the bill, whose price tag Obama never mentioned once in his speech but has now bloated from an initial estimate of $300 billion to $450 billion. Instead, he told Congress to figure out how to carve the cost out of future spending while it battles over meeting its $1.5 trillion commitment from last month’s debt-ceiling increase.
Over and over again last night, Obama lectured Congress to “pass this bill.” It seems more like Obama passed the buck — and now wants to wash his hands of the failures of Obamanomics.
Update: Let’s get a translation of the AP from My Cousin Vinny (mildly NSFW):









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You lie!
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Obama gave another speech?
roy_batty on September 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM
Let me spend all this money now, and you have to figure out how to pay for it later. And if you don’t agree to this deal, I’ll hold it against you.
What a complete joke this jack@ss is.
rbj on September 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM
Obama (or whoever is pulling his strings) knows that the recession is about to double dip, what with the Eurozone ready to implode, so this speech was just a way to preemptively blame the Republicans for obstructionism and for causing the impending disaster.
RedRedRice on September 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM
Obama comes out and presents an insane proposal that has proven to further thrust the economy into bankruptcy with no information on what it is and how it will be paid for. Anyone who doesn’t support the insanity is a racist and a homophobe who is wanting the nation to fail. He is trying to paint the republicans into a no-win corner. The ignorance of the American people is being manipulated.
volsense on September 9, 2011 at 8:53 AM
Does Obama even know when he is lying . . . and who in their right mind would believe him?
rplat on September 9, 2011 at 8:54 AM
Yepper rrrice
Blame game for campaign
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 8:55 AM
And will the gop kowtow to his demands?
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 8:56 AM
The Dems were first and goal on the one with no time left on the clock, and they handed the ball to a rookie.
mankai on September 9, 2011 at 8:57 AM
I thought he told the “supercommittee” to do this, and Jeb Henterling had a great quote I saw on FoxNews basically “we’re busy do it yourself”. Plus I heard Senator Kyl is already to quit the supers after one meeting, over military cuts.
Marcus on September 9, 2011 at 8:59 AM
“There’s no such thing as shovel ready projects.” — B. Obama
CJ on September 9, 2011 at 8:59 AM
I guess you all missed Charlie Rose last night and his panel of experts who proclaimed the speech the second Sermon on the Mount.
(don’t ask why I watched except for the bile factor).
Limerick on September 9, 2011 at 8:59 AM
We knew this was coming the minute he asked Boehner for a joint session speech. Obama has nothing left to offer. Anyone still interested in voting for such a failure is just as out of touch with reality as he is.
the_souse on September 9, 2011 at 9:01 AM
No dammit, you don’t understand. This time it will work!
bloghooligan on September 9, 2011 at 9:02 AM
SCOAMF
thebrokenrattle on September 9, 2011 at 9:03 AM
It was Porkulus 1 1/2: The Smell of Fear. Didn’t the first Porkulus give billions to the states to hand out to teachers’ unions….errrr, save teachers’ jobs which are now being slashed due to that money running out? How will this be different? Didn’t it spend billions on what were claimed at the time to be shovel ready jobs only to have Obama himself all but mock his own plan by admitting they were never there to begin with? How will this be different? Didn’t it offer tax credits to employers to hire new workers only to see hardly anyone get a job who wasn’t already in line for one? How will this be different? Haven’t we been extending unemployment benefits for years already only to see more people dropping out of the work force than getting rehired? How will another year of benefits make any difference?
And how will any of this be paid for? Raising taxes won’t cut it. Not when the price tag is half a trillion. Instead he’ll just kick the can down the road, probably past 2016 when he knows it won’t be his problem. Meanwhile, we’ll be looking at an annual deficit close to $2 trillion.
Doughboy on September 9, 2011 at 9:05 AM
I’m confused. The NPR commentators I was listening to on my car radio said the speech was totally awesome.
Personally, I was very impressed with his idea to kick China’s butt with his nifty internship program.
forest on September 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM
Not only is it basically dishonest but it’s politically incompetent!
In an environment where he has to inspire the cooperation of a room full of people who disagree with him, he presents his program in a grandstand play in front of the cameras and then dares them all to oppose it. This is NOT about jobs, it’s about positioning!
If he really wanted to get something positive done, he’d start by remembering the quote that Reagan used to use:”It’s surprising what you can accomplish when you don’t care who gets the credit”. He wouldn’t go up on the mountain and then come down with his tablets of stone and beat the masses over the head with his commandments. He’d meet with the players behind closed doors and without press releases, put together a list of things that they agreed on and that nobody had to fall on their sword to support, and then publicly praise the people whose cooperation he’d inspired.
What he’s all about is nothing more complex than political chess….mate, check mate, and game over!
Lew on September 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM
Americans were seeking a common sense economic plan from the leader of their nation last night. Not the campaign speech of a failed incumbent president desperately seeking re-election.
kingsjester on September 9, 2011 at 9:07 AM
As Chief Financial Officer for all US unions (CFOUSU), it’s Obama’s job to come up with ways to shovel billions of tax dollars to them.
darwin on September 9, 2011 at 9:07 AM
If you play with your spreadsheet long enough you can nail that multiplier.
flyfisher on September 9, 2011 at 9:10 AM
But souse, to hear the lsm this was the best speech since he got elected
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 9:10 AM
like it matters. the gop in congress will pass most of this. It is why they raised the debt limit. All 536 people in DC need their campiagn slush funds for 2012 don’t you know.
unseen on September 9, 2011 at 9:11 AM
google has not yet heard the news
i’ll try to remember to drop it into Ace’s comment section since it doesn’t require registration … but i’m not over there much …
gh on September 9, 2011 at 9:11 AM
That is because NPR currently broadcasts exclusively from that evil parallel mirror universe that that one episode of Star Trek warned us all about.
pilamaye on September 9, 2011 at 9:11 AM
Here at the university I’m hearing it was a mix of Christ, Gandhi, MLK and Che.
I bet those Chinese will think twice about messing with Obama now!
mankai on September 9, 2011 at 9:12 AM
‘Pass this bill now’, same tactic used to pass Obamacare. Pass it and then read it and figure out how to pay for it. Congress now has to wait another week for the actual bill and then another week for it to be scored and Zero’s going to take it to the four corners of the country if they don’t pass it. Does he even know where the 4 corners is?
Kissmygrits on September 9, 2011 at 9:12 AM
Lol,perfect update Ed
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 9:12 AM
I watched a lot of the speech muted (had a phone call) and I got a kick out of all the looks 0bama got. From the way Hillary looked, I think she is considering primary-ing him.
Wolftech on September 9, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Are there so many broken school windows in the country that the president has to get involved?
flyfisher on September 9, 2011 at 9:17 AM
They’ll pass some of it. There’s no way the GOP will kill the entire bill. The real question will be how they get it through without having to cave on some sort of tax hikes, because otherwise they’re adding to the deficit.
Doughboy on September 9, 2011 at 9:22 AM
That Joint Session might have worked if they had, you know, passed out joints first.
:>)
hillbillyjim on September 9, 2011 at 9:23 AM
I can’t see YouTube clips at work. Which scene from My Cousin Vinny is it?
Doughboy on September 9, 2011 at 9:25 AM
all it is, is another raid on the US Treasury by special interest groups.
RonK on September 9, 2011 at 9:26 AM
Wasn’t all this fixin and buildin supposed to be done with the first trillion or so he plundered?
Alden Pyle on September 9, 2011 at 9:27 AM
It’s not a bill, it’s a speech! This has been annoying me to no end, beginning with Obama’s authoritarian demand that we pass this bill RIGHT AWAY!
Buy Danish on September 9, 2011 at 9:28 AM
Absolute must see: “Drilling = Jobs”
From TheBlaze:
VibrioCocci on September 9, 2011 at 9:29 AM
Doughboy, paraphrase: vinny “what he said was BS”
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 9:32 AM
Too bad it was radio. I’ll bet Mara Liasson looks funny with a goatee.
forest on September 9, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Boehner should have a vote on passing the speech.
forest on September 9, 2011 at 9:35 AM
I thought I was listening to a used car salesman…
BuyPass it now!Was the TOTUS skipping like a record?
sadatoni on September 9, 2011 at 9:35 AM
Ah, his “opening statement” at the trial? That one’s a classic.
Doughboy on September 9, 2011 at 9:37 AM
So they say. But I’m here to tell you, the Pack and the Saints put on a pretty good football game.
tgharris on September 9, 2011 at 9:38 AM
the definition of insanity is…
maineconservative on September 9, 2011 at 9:39 AM
Yepper DB :)
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 9:45 AM
Any GOP congressman who votes to spend money on stimulus will lose his primary. I’m reasonably sure that even Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins are clear about this now. Obama should understand this, but I guess he sincerely has the notion that some GOP reps will vote for more stimulus for the sake of the country. These altruistic GOP congressmen will risk re-election to improve the economy. But Obama’s fantasy ignores that GOP congressmen don’t believe that stimulus is good for the economy.
thuja on September 9, 2011 at 9:47 AM
Obama, like others who see themselves as the arbiter of all true and knowledge to the unenlightened rubes whom he reigns over, believes that when he tells a big enough lie for over a long enough period of time, his subjects will eventually believe it because they cannot imagine anyone would be that evil.
Thank God for the Tea Party, Palin, Bachmann, and other patriots willing to suffer the humiliation dished out by these traitors in order to keep the truth front and center.
csdeven on September 9, 2011 at 9:48 AM
In other words, they’ll have to pass his proposals to see how they’re gonna pay for them.
Paul_in_NJ on September 9, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Actually, if you want a more fitting quote from My Cousin Vinny to sum up Obama’s speech:
“Look, it’s either me or them. You’re getting f—ed one way or another. Heh heh!”
Doughboy on September 9, 2011 at 9:51 AM
If the Administration is sending the 400 billion to the super committee, does that mean they will now have to come up with 1.9 trillion in cuts total?
They are are already supposed to come up with 1.5 trillion in cuts. Does the new 400 billion get added on to it or is the White House trying to sneak the 400 billion into the 1.5 trillion saying that the new spending is payed for when we are supposed to cut anyway?
ChipDaddy on September 9, 2011 at 9:56 AM
Nice piece at CNN, Ed! Groundhog day indeed. All congress has to say in response is, “Pass what, exactly? The same tired crap that failed the first couple of times?”
dogsoldier on September 9, 2011 at 9:58 AM
You mean there’s an actual bill, all written up and ready to go? Where do I find this “bill”?
taznar on September 9, 2011 at 9:59 AM
Yea, I listened to that drivel. He sounded like a punk ordering people around. He’s supposed to be so smart, yet I sure didn’t hear an original idea in that whole speech. These are all things he’s already done! In other words, he’s clueless and congress is supposed to follow him down the path to nowhere.
scalleywag on September 9, 2011 at 10:00 AM
I love Vinny.
mizflame98 on September 9, 2011 at 10:00 AM
I love Marisa Tomei
But, hey, to each his own.
mankai on September 9, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Lol Doughboy
:)
cmsinaz on September 9, 2011 at 10:03 AM
So the President supports declaring war on Americans and taking the “sons of bit#hes” out if they don’t agree with him….
…….then comes back and says he needs to take more of our money for his economic shell games and then raise our taxes to pay for it.
…only a complete idiot would support this President.
Baxter Greene on September 9, 2011 at 10:08 AM
More “crisis” legislation, more slight of hand.
Cindy Munford on September 9, 2011 at 10:09 AM
I was actually screaming at the screen when obama mentioned that we need to get teachers back to work. Shouldn’t they already be in the classroom??!!!??? That was very much union speak last night
ConservativePartyNow on September 9, 2011 at 10:12 AM
We have to pass it so we can find out what’s in it.
vcferlita on September 9, 2011 at 10:17 AM
…More of the same failure…..more of the same failure….
Obama’s Pivoting to Jobs…. Again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfWbIcoU9iI&feature=related
…..and the usual suspects that are declaring this speech so wonderful…
……….are the same ones who declared all the previous ones….and other ones….and other ones…..and other ones…. glorious also.
What a bunch of pathetic sheep.
Baxter Greene on September 9, 2011 at 10:17 AM
Has he presented a budget, yet?
How do you produce “budget savings” when there’s no budget to begin with?
franksalterego on September 9, 2011 at 10:17 AM
It’s funny, I did the opposite – I was listening to some of the speech on FOX on Sirius radio while out driving. Aside from the complete lack of substance, 0bama actually sounded energetic and forceful. But when I saw the clips today on TV, his body language told a very different story. He looked very unsure of himself, like he didn’t even believe his own words.
UltimateBob on September 9, 2011 at 10:20 AM
I was so hoping for Marisa Tomei. :)
Bipartisan? No? But Obama said these were proposals that EVERYONE could get behind. Ed, don’t be lying about our President. TOTALLY bipartisan.
Not immediately effective? Ed, does the phrase “shovel ready” ring a bell? I wish you’d stop lying about our President.
Though “shovel ready” might refer to the BS referenced by Joe Pesci in the clip. :)
Paul-Cincy on September 9, 2011 at 10:20 AM
It also takes time to do engineering and feasibility studies on WHICH “infrastructure” needs repair or replacement most urgently. If such studies had been performed for the original “stimulus” bill starting in February 2009, the construction work would already be under way by now. But the purpose of the original Porkulus was to “look like we’re doing something by throwing money at a problem”, so most of it was wasted, since rational thinking doesn’t pay in such situations.
Steve Z on September 9, 2011 at 10:23 AM
Well to be fair, I think Obama was channeling Billy Mays. It did sound more like an infomercial then a speech, didn’t it? LOL
He’s out of ideas, but obviously not out of arrogance or narcissism.
capejasmine on September 9, 2011 at 10:24 AM
You know, this is the most glaring contradiction of the whole 0bama “plan” (if you can call it that). I heard a lot of talk about “Made in America” and stuff, but it seems like the only jobs they want to create are for cops, teachers, and firefighters (read: union members).
The usual army of 0bama buttsniffers (including Biden) were all over the TV this morning, using the exact same words. Cops, teachers, and firefighters. Blah Blah Blah.
How is any of this going to create any jobs in Manufacturing or Tech or Housing?
……….crickets……….
UltimateBob on September 9, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Obama specifially mentioned the I-75 bridge between Cincinnati and Kentucky. It is needed, but it’s a huge, multi-billion dollar project. And nothing has started yet. When the project gets started, it will go on for years.
Paul-Cincy on September 9, 2011 at 10:26 AM
I’ll gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.
/PBHO speech
MJBrutus on September 9, 2011 at 10:30 AM
Hey, boys and girls, let’s all celebrate. Uncle Omar is free again. Free, free at last!
Obama’s uncle quietly released from jail…
petefrt on September 9, 2011 at 10:41 AM
No, silly, you don’t understand. The first stimulus didn’t work because it wasn’t big enough. That’s why a smaller one is such a good idea.(Scratches head and walks away mumbling)
a capella on September 9, 2011 at 10:48 AM
I mentioned this last night to my girlfriend when watching it before the game. He wants Congress to find the cuts, so he doesn’t have to. Then, he can point to them when it fails, or isn’t to his liking. He just loves to discuss, instead of propose.
President Obama simply has no friking idea on how to lead, or put forth a budget/proposal that doesn’t include massive spending related with tax increases. I’m shocked he even mentioned Medicare last night, but we will see where that goes. I am sure the Republicans will sieze on that opportunity to make that as solvent as they can in the near term. It will probably go the way of the other “discussions” that they have had with Obama…he says that he is the “grown-up”, and then walks out.
Patriot Vet on September 9, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Surprised?
GarandFan on September 9, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Yea, I live in Lexington. It seems like 75 is perpetually under construction, but you are right, it’d be nice to get that bridge going.
preallocated on September 9, 2011 at 11:05 AM
…if the teachers would get out of the streets….put down their “Republicans are nazi’s ” signs ……and get back to their classrooms…they would be back to work.
Baxter Greene on September 9, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Well, the Dems running CA have solved that pesky economic reality by just passing a bill that Gov. Moonbeam is expected to sign that makes it illegal for a school district or city to layoff teachers because of a budget short-fall. Yep, just sprinkle some of this pixie dust and turn around three times and all your troubles will be gone! Lunatics.
in_awe on September 9, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Excellent summary.
Just as accurate, and much more concise.
peski on September 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Yes, I have the joy of living in the PRC (People’s Republic of CA). With a kid taking AP American History this year, I’m afraid I’ll have to ride pretty close heard on the homework. I’ve prepped my kid for the onslaught by getting her hooked on Stossel, pre-programmed on the DVR.
peski on September 9, 2011 at 12:07 PM
“..yew on druuuugs?”
The War Planner on September 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM
This too, and from the LATimes: Speaking on behalf of millions of Americans who’ve grown angry and frustrated over the president’s 32-month ineffective inactivity on the job creation front, President Obama on Thursday told members of Congress they really have to do something about the crummy employment situation — and do it quickly.
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Its like Obama’s been watching too much Popeye the Sailor Man cartoon.
“I’ll gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today”!
44Magnum on September 9, 2011 at 12:57 PM
A Van Halen lyric comes to mind:
juanito on September 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM
Boehner croons to Obama after the speech:
Jaibones on September 9, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Obama is apparently channelling the character “Wimpy” from old Popeye comic strips, whose signature line was:
“I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!”
Neither the comic strip nor Obama is funny today.
landlines on September 9, 2011 at 2:20 PM
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true.” – Homer J. Simpson
whatcat on September 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Congress CAN do something quickly: it’s called IMPEACHMENT.
Grounds could include incompetence, corruption, abuse of power, unlawful acts, and sabotage.
landlines on September 9, 2011 at 2:53 PM
What’s up with this?
Maybe the AP is getting the good jounalism out of their system now so they can be very incurious about Obama and the Democrats in the critical six months before the elections.
RJL on September 9, 2011 at 2:57 PM
WTF does that mean? Being a jarhead, I have a hard enough time understanding comments on this blog, so would someone explain tht comment for me? Really.
jarhead0311 on September 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM
AMEN brother!!!!!!!!
jarhead0311 on September 9, 2011 at 10:39 PM
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