Cheney to Hillary: You’re our only hope

posted at 10:05 am on September 8, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Well, okay, Dick Cheney didn’t exactly call Hillary Clinton our only hope.  The former VP did say on his book tour that Hillary might be the only hope that Democrats have of keeping the White House in 2012 — and he’s probably right:

“I think it would be good for the country [for Clinton to run for president], I think that it would be good for the Democratic Party – it might even help the Republicans a little bit,” the former Vice President said with a smirk, in an interview with ABC’s Jonathan Karl on Wednesday to promote his new memoir, “In My Time.”

The former vice president said that Clinton might have an opening due to the stagnant economy.

“Maybe if– the Obama record is bad enough– and these days it’s not very good, given the shape of the economy maybe there will be enough ferment in the Democratic Party so that there will be a primary on their side,” said Cheney.

“So far she hasn’t said she would [run], but I think it’s not a bad idea,” said Cheney.

We’re getting to the point in the cycle where Hillary might be the only viable challenger on the Democratic side.  Only the Clintons could organize a campaign quickly enough to be competitive by January, and only the Clintons would have entree to the big bundlers needed to fund a national campaign at this stage.  Some of those may be waiting for just that event; for months, we’ve had indications that big-ticket Democratic donors have sat on their hands, especially on Wall Street.

However, Hillary would have to resign first, and that takes longer for a Cabinet secretary than just a couple of weeks.  That’s especially true at a critical position like State, where Hillary would have to extricate herself from a number of issues and hand off the duties without damaging American diplomacy.  Any reasonable time frame would put the eventual handoff sometime in mid-October, and probably more like the end of next month.  Even with the Clinton network and the disappointment from Obama’s base, that’s already almost too late.

Besides, Barack Obama’s problem isn’t only on his right, where Hillary would have to run.  His problem is on his left, where his activist base has become disillusioned and demoralized.  A Hillary primary challenge would probably allow Obama to get his base back into the game, somewhat grudgingly, but would necessarily force him to look even more radical than how he’s governed over the last three years, which would kill his already-fading chances in a general election.

If things get bad enough, Hillary might not need to stage a challenge at all.  As I wrote last month, if Obama’s polling slide continues to accelerate and the economy doesn’t show any signs of improvement — and especially if it dips back into recession — Democrats might push Obama out of the race and invite Hillary to fill the vacuum.  And that might not be good news for Republicans if it happens, either.

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Cheney is a class act, a great American, and a true patriot. Plus, he once told a Democrat in Congress to go f**k himself, which is always good.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Do you think Bill Clinton has ever forgiven Obama for being tossed under the bus and called racist? Not while he has a breath left in him.

Marcus on September 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Slightly OT: Totally Unexpected

ConservativePartyNow on September 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM

I’m not convinced. Just exactly how would Hillary govern differently from Obama?

halfastro on September 8, 2011 at 10:10 AM

It’s a pipe dream (or nightmare, depending on whose side you’re on).

She’s not going to do it.

AZCoyote on September 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Dick’s just making mischief here. Hillary vs. Dear Liar would really fracture the Democrats. Lots of bad blood, and the loser’s supporters would stay home on election day, helping the GOP nominee.

But there’s no way I want a competent Progressive in office. Incompetence is what’s saving us.

rbj on September 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Delicious.

Fortunata on September 8, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Democrats might push Obama out of the race

The problem with the Dems is that they are the party of Instant Gratification-Hillary was obviously a better candidate in 2008, but they all went with the giddy flow for O’bama.

Likewise if they had pushed Bill Clinton aside “for the good of the country” in 1998, an incumbent Algore would most likely have won the 2000 election.

But they are too short-sighted for any of that long range projection. After all, they want Instant Gratification!

Del Dolemonte on September 8, 2011 at 10:12 AM

I’m not convinced. Just exactly how would Hillary govern differently from Obama?

halfastro on September 8, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Shooom! Right over your head.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Democrats might push Obama out of the race and invite Hillary to fill the vacuum. And that might not be good news for Republicans if it happens, either.

Unicorn dreams.

He’s already raised a ton of money and there is no way they can stop him from filing to run.

JeffersonFan on September 8, 2011 at 10:13 AM

4 days later?

jake-the-goose on September 8, 2011 at 10:13 AM

It’ll never happen; the Dems have painted themselves in a corner with their racial politics. They would have to come up with some kind of “health emergency” to cover for Obama.

RedRedRice on September 8, 2011 at 10:13 AM

I’d love to see her primary Teh Precious.

Just for the sake of seeing him try to fend off attacks from the left as well as from the right.

UltimateBob on September 8, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Hillary will still lose the general. Blacks will stay home. Obama got 98%. if even 10% of that stays home, no way Hillary wins Ohio. She could lose Michigan too.

angryed on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Can’t happen, because anything less than complete devotion to Obama is racist. Ask Maxine Waters.

RBMN on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I’m not convinced. Just exactly how would Hillary govern differently from Obama?

halfastro on September 8, 2011 at 10:10 AM

She wouldn’t. Cheney’s having a little fun at Hillary and Barry’s expense.

Fallon on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Run, Hillary, Run!

scalleywag on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

So Ed, when does the NFL Open Thread start?

Del Dolemonte on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Democrats might push Obama out of the race and invite Hillary to fill the vacuum.

I’m not so sure that Hillary! would win. At the very least, she’s “Obama Lite”.

GarandFan on September 8, 2011 at 10:15 AM

No, stick with Obama, Dems. You own him.

Ward Cleaver on September 8, 2011 at 10:15 AM

So Ed, when does the NFL Open Thread start?

Del Dolemonte on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

GO STEELERS!

Ward Cleaver on September 8, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Slightly OT: Totally Unexpected

ConservativePartyNow on September 8, 2011 at 10:09 AM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The number of Americans filing new claims for jobless benefits rose unexpectedly last week,

Here’s a sure fire way to raise more revenue – tax the media every time they use the word Unexpected….

Chip on September 8, 2011 at 10:17 AM

I still don’t see how this would work for the Dems. They’ll alienate black voters which is a key demographic they must have in 2012 and not just for the Presidential race. Also, Hillary as a member of the Obama Administration would have a hard time running convincingly as an outsider. What exactly would she object to with regard to the Obama agenda thus far? Not Obamacare, that’s for damn sure. Porkulus? Doubtful. The EPA regulations and pandering to unions? Maybe, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Foreign policy? Definitely not seeing as how she’s Obama’s Secretary of State.

What’s Hillary’s gameplan then? “I’m not Obama.” Great, but the Republican will be able to make the same argument and a lot more convincingly.

Doughboy on September 8, 2011 at 10:17 AM

No, stick with Obama, Dems. You own him.

Ward Cleaver on September 8, 2011 at 10:15 AM

They certainly Own the economy – DWS told us so.

Chip on September 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM

It’s a pipe dream (or nightmare, depending on whose side you’re on).

She’s not going to do it.

AZCoyote on September 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM

I dunno, do you think she can resist? It’s her best and last chance,…she knows Scooter is going to get steam rollered. Is her ego large enough to think she can out duel the pubbie nominee? Or, will she refuse to tie her line to a sinking boat?

a capella on September 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Isn’t this kind of like bringing in Godzilla to battle Rodan?

pilamaye on September 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM

It’s not just Obama who would be pushed out and humiliated by being replaced by Hillary, it would be the entire Chicago crowd that would not only be lame ducks for most of 2012, but would be persona non grata within the Democratic Party, which tends to dump its high-profile losers into the crocodile pit if they’ve failed to advance The Cause.

Cheney’s thinking here is basically A.) Hillary’s the only thing that might save the Democrats, and; B.) Your average Daily Kos/MoveOn.org/DU/Current TV Keith Olbermann watcher would rather chug rat poison than do anything Dick Cheney says. So the idea that Cheney would be one of the leaders of the “Draft Hillary” campaign would make the far left types oppose it even more.

jon1979 on September 8, 2011 at 10:21 AM

I’m not convinced. Just exactly how would Hillary govern differently from Obama?

halfastro on September 8, 2011 at 10:10 AM

* She would not accuse a police officer of “acting stupidly” with no evidence beyond the word of a race baiter.

* She would not wax poetically about how great it would be to be the President of China.

* She would probably confer with the Speaker of the House about a time slot for a joint session BEFORE scheduling it.

And that’s just for starters.

Mutnodjmet on September 8, 2011 at 10:21 AM

All other reasons aside, after having seen her recently shaking the hand of some foreign politician, it’s quite apparent that she’s having a hard time handling the stress associated with being SecState. God help her if she became prez, as far as her health is concerned.

TQM38a on September 8, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Hillary may well be the Democrat nominee, but it won’t be because she resigned as SoS and primaried Obama. Resigning would invite comparisons to Sarah. She will be the nominee if the leaders of the party go to Obama and tell him he can’t win so he must announce that he is not seeking a second term. This way Hillary can run without resigning.

meci on September 8, 2011 at 10:22 AM

So Ed, when does the NFL Open Thread start?

Del Dolemonte on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

As someone else so correctly said, obambi has become a warm up act for the NFL. Except in WI where he has been pre-empted. How embarrassing is that?

VegasRick on September 8, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Never underestimate the power of her PUMAs. They walk among us and still seethe with resentment. That resentment, combined with the disasterous Obama presidency could equal a successful primary challenge!

She’ll do it, if her PUMAs keep this ball rolling. I beleive the Clintons still smart from what happened in 2008. Don’t think they have forgotten or forgiven.

http://themorningspew.com/2011/09/07/dick-cheney-encourages-hillary-to-challenge-obama-in-2012/

bloggless on September 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM

She won’t run against him, but I could see Obama not running again. If he does, he will very likely lose; if he doesn’t run, he can blame it on the Republicans/Pres Bush, and the fact that the country just wasn’t ready for a black President. Then he is the hero of the left for the next 50 years, and we’ll get to listen to him and Michelle pontificate. I think that may be much more attractive to him than a landslide loss.

exhelodrvr on September 8, 2011 at 10:25 AM

That picture makes Obama look like a vampire preparing to bite Hillary on the neck.

zmdavid on September 8, 2011 at 10:26 AM

where Hillary would have to extricate herself from a number of issues and hand off the duties without damaging American diplomacy.

Not being “smart” here…but like what??? Seems to me events are unfolding at their own pace. Name 1 where our influence is shaping events…

winston on September 8, 2011 at 10:28 AM

Hillary is the competent version of obama. She will succeed in screwing over America where obama failed. That is the LAST THING WE NEED.

Hard Right on September 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM

However, Hillary would have to resign first, and that takes longer for a Cabinet secretary than just a couple of weeks. That’s especially true at a critical position like State, where Hillary would have to extricate herself from a number of issues and hand off the duties without damaging American diplomacy.

That’s under the assumption that Hillary’s in the loop on stuff.

Obama undercut her immediately after she was brought in, putting the UN Ambassator, Susan Rice, in charge of a lot of things that normally belonged to State.

If that’s held true in the past three years, and I don’t doubt it a bit, then she may have a lot less to extricate herself from than previous SecStates like Condi Rice, Powell, Henry Kissinger, etc.

teke184 on September 8, 2011 at 10:33 AM

I don’t think Hillary will run, but I do hear that Bayh’s office keeps calling him.

ConservativePartyNow on September 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM


maybe there will be enough ferment in the Democratic Party…

Shouldn’t that be foment? But then, I don’t think that foment is a noun, but neither is ferment a noun.

Just picking nits…

bugsy on September 8, 2011 at 10:37 AM

The problem with the Dems is that they are the party of Instant Gratification-Hillary was obviously a better candidate in 2008, but they all went with the giddy flow for O’bama.

Yep! The white guilt is great within this party. Also, the powers behind the throne wanted some one who could be controlled.

Vince on September 8, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Hillary can’t win the White House in the Democratic Party.

She doesn’t have the qualifications …

Hillary, ain’t nevah been called a n****!

Just ask the good Rev. Jerimiah Wright!

HondaV65 on September 8, 2011 at 10:38 AM

So Ed, when does the NFL Open Thread start?
Del Dolemonte on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Right now, baby!

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

Akzed on September 8, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Lawdy, Mr. VP, now you’ve gone and done it.
Bubba’s already grabbed his little black book out of the lock box in anticipation of Hilary’s long campaign trips.

kingsjester on September 8, 2011 at 10:42 AM

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

Akzed on September 8, 2011 at 10:40 AM

The Eagles will lose their first game.

Vince on September 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM

It’s interesting that Drudge ran a story on Lewinsky. What does he already know?

SouthernGent on September 8, 2011 at 10:45 AM

RBJ said,

Dick’s just making mischief here.

Exactly. It’s too much to hope that the President is primaried, and while I really doubt he walks voluntarily that’s really the only hope for switching the top of the Democrat ticket.

Having said that I would be jumping for joy if they were to run Hillary. She believes in all the very unpopular Obama policies right down the line, but she completely lacks his personal polling popularity.

Go ahead Democrats– run an unpopular politician espousing totally hated policies!

MTF on September 8, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Never underestimate the power of her PUMAs. They walk among us and still seethe with resentment. That resentment, combined with the disasterous Obama presidency could equal a successful primary challenge!

People talked a lot about the PUMAs in 2008, but on Election Day they all voted for Obama. If some of them have soured on Obama, they would probably vote Republican in 2012.

Hillary probably won’t run, and since when did she ever accept advice from Dick Cheney?

Steve Z on September 8, 2011 at 10:49 AM

I’m not convinced. Just exactly how would Hillary govern differently from Obama?
halfastro on September 8, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Domestically, she might be marginally less in bed with the labor unions (maybe), but my guess is that she would bow less on foreign policy.

Count to 10 on September 8, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Dick’s just making mischief here.

Yeah.
Obama does have a way, though, of kinda making us feel nostalgic for all those other incompetent Socialists and Marxists that came before him.

JellyToast on September 8, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Ed, there is one thing you failed to mention. If Hillary got into the primary race, that would force democrats to vote in the democrat primary race which would prevent democrats from voting in the republican primary race in many states. This would ensure that the Republicans would have a conservative nominee and not a Huntsman, who just right of Hillary.

jeffn21 on September 8, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Experience with narcissists informs me that O will not agree to step aside. That would be to ask him to voluntarily give up control. Impossible. It is to laugh.

He controls the DNC until they throw him off their backs, or alternatively, pay him off with both $$$ and unstinting honors and accolades, rose petals, dancing girls, panoply and pomp.

The good thing is that you can get the better of the bargain with a narcissist once you know that they will accept all sorts of smoke and mirrors as real, like Nobel peace prizes for bupkiss, and such like. They can be had cheaply, especially when they clearly do not understand money. Free advice, dems.

perries on September 8, 2011 at 10:54 AM

She wouldn’t. Cheney’s having a little fun at Hillary and Barry’s expense.

Fallon on September 8, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Thus verifying that the Sith Lord has a wicked sense of humor.

SKYFOX on September 8, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Hillary has one thing now that she didn’t have in ’08: a record in the Executive Branch.

Her term as Sec State has seen us: hand back a gift from the UK in the bust of Churchill, hand an overcharge/overload button to the Russians as a ‘new start’, seen Israel get snubbed by this Administration repeatedly, had the US turn its back on our E. European allies for missile defense, complain about the Japanese earthquake/tsunami as hurting the US economy, had her boss tell the Indian government to get a teleprompter in their Parliament, sided with Libyan rebels that are getting help from al Qaeda, said next to nothing about what is going on in Syria, and her State Dept. has helped the Zetas get FA weapons and grenades in Mexico….

Each of those issues would cause grave questions about Hillary’s competence and why she didn’t resign early on. Now she is seen as backing this agenda and doing nothing to mend fences. She is way, way, way in over her head as Sec State. Anyone who backed Hillary! has got to be wondering: ‘Just what was I thinking?’

The only plus side is that Obama is so Chitown politics that he has alienated the Clinton donors and many in Wall St. because of his continued attacks on them and being unwilling to meet with them or invite them to parties like Mr. Bill did. He may still get some big firms to support him, but the lower rank-and-file executives will keep their money at home and sell Obama short.

ajacksonian on September 8, 2011 at 10:56 AM

That’s especially true at a critical position like State, where Hillary would have to extricate herself from a number of issues and hand off the duties without damaging American diplomacy.

Hahaha…..

Hahahahahahha….

Could it get any worse…I mean, seriously.

Youngs98 on September 8, 2011 at 10:58 AM

I love Cheney..but he may have just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Hillary would clearly pull brain dead yet oh so precious/ independents to the “D” ticket.

Nice job Dick!

katy on September 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM

How would Hillary differ from little Bammie? I don’t think many of us would question Hillary’s intelligence and political smarts. She’s obviously not ‘the smartest lawyer in America’, but compared to little Bammie she’s an Einstein.

Little Bammie is a dope that couldn’t lawyer himself out of a paper bag.

slickwillie2001 on September 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Hillary has walked in lock step with Obama for almost 3 years. She’s advocated his policies. She believes in them, because they are more alike than they are different.

She’d get hammered on those points. Voting for Hillary would be voting for Obama.

capejasmine on September 8, 2011 at 11:01 AM

If things get bad enough, Hillary might not need to stage a challenge at all. As I wrote last month, if Obama’s polling slide continues to accelerate and the economy doesn’t show any signs of improvement — and especially if it dips back into recession — Democrats might push Obama out of the race and invite Hillary to fill the vacuum. And that might not be good news for Republicans if it happens, either.

You think some new details might come to light on the citizen front that would, unfortunately, bar him from running for a second term?

DFCtomm on September 8, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Hillary primary Obama? Queue the inner city fire departments.

Don L on September 8, 2011 at 11:13 AM

As I wrote last month, if Obama’s polling slide continues to accelerate and the economy doesn’t show any signs of improvement — and especially if it dips back into recession —

Is this then, the new normal where we are now? I think we are in a depression because of the stagnant economy and the high unemployment numbers that have gone on for so long. What is the true unemploymen/low employment numbers? It bet its closer to 20 than to 9.1.

Mirimichi on September 8, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Hillarycare anyone?

Don L on September 8, 2011 at 11:14 AM

She doesn’t know any more about governing or how the economy works than her current boss. What has she accomplished besides marry a future president, fire the WH travel staff, move to NY and get elected in a D safe state, mis-translate a Russian word and age badly.

Kissmygrits on September 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Comparitavely speaking, I would have taken Hillary over Obama. This, of course, is if we were only given two choices in a fire pit in hell.

RDE2010 on September 8, 2011 at 11:19 AM

….Aaaaaand by saying that, Darth Cheney has just poisoned the well for a Hillary run. The only thing that would have made it better is if George W himself said it.

I really like Dick Cheney, I say as I cackle like the evil hag I am…

Sekhmet on September 8, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Oh come on, who doesn’t want ole Slick Willy to be found in his final repose with his flag in the air, blue pills spread on the floor, an intern pointing with her lawyer and Hillary in her best face palm pose, in the compartment adjacent to the Oval office?

All puns intended.

Speakup on September 8, 2011 at 11:20 AM

Dick is just making mischief

Sure, but at least it is productive for conservatives, unlike Rove, who makes mischief for selfish ends–that hurt the conservative cause. Cheney is a good guy.

G. Charles on September 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM

ok ok I think I just got it…d’oh

With Dick Cheney’s name on any endorsement…it’s dead in the water.

Whoa…

I’m usually quicker than that… *slaps forehead*

katy on September 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Dollar to donut says that Øbama will try to get Shrillary to run with him instead of Biden. Here’s hoping she says no.

petefrt on September 8, 2011 at 11:25 AM

… Democrats might push Obama out of the race and invite Hillary to fill the vacuum. And that might not be good news for Republicans if it happens, either.

You could well be right Ed. Elections are won in the middle. I can see a scenario were Hillary would take anti-Obama voters away from the Republican candidate.

One positive though: A Hillary vs. Republican candidate election would (hopefully) have a better chance of being decided on policy, and not hopey-changey bilge.

tgharris on September 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM

I’m pretty sure Hillary doesn’t want to run this year. It would be a rather uphill battle for her. She’s too politically savvy for that (or at least I think she is…becoming Obama’s Sec of State was probably not a great move).

Pattosensei on September 8, 2011 at 11:29 AM

I think Huntsman should primary him…

d1carter on September 8, 2011 at 11:41 AM

Trading one socialist for another? What’s the point?

50sGuy on September 8, 2011 at 11:44 AM

Trading one socialist for another? What’s the point?

The point is we win.

bloggless on September 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM

I’m sure Hillary would love to be dragged again through all that sh!t by those non-racists and non-misogynists.
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Shay on September 8, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Help us Obi Wan Kenobi, your’e our only hope!

It’s a noble effort on Cheney’s part. But the liberals consider him Darth Cheney so it might not work. On the other hand, they like to think themselves subtle and complex thinkers, so maybe they’ll assume Cheney is just trying to prevent The Shrew from running. Maybe.

Dale Wyckoff on September 8, 2011 at 12:08 PM

The libs are so helpful about telling us who to run as our candidate and Cheney is returning the favor.

dragondrop on September 8, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Here’s my nightmare scenario: Zero tosses Biden for Cankles, and they win. Zero, being the laziest POS in DC, would let Hillary run the show from the shadows, while he goes golfing and the Big One goes on more and more vacations . Same commie policies, but more insideous.
Hillary then runs in 2016 and 2020. TWELVE years of Bill/Hil. We would be doomed.

hamnj7 on September 8, 2011 at 12:13 PM

That’s especially true at a critical position like State, where Hillary would have to extricate herself from a number of issues and hand off the duties without damaging American diplomacy.

You’re kidding, right? She’s merely a spokesperson/figurehead. What kind of “damage” would happen to American diplomacy because of her exit?

KS Rex on September 8, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Cheney is trying to do to the democrats what every left leaning debate moderator is trying to do to the GOP. Start fights within the opposing party.

Scrappy on September 8, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I’m not convinced. Just exactly how would Hillary govern differently from Obama?

halfastro

She wouldn’t. She’s as big a marxist as Obama.

It doesn’t matter anyway. The dems would never primary their guy because doing so would guarantee they lose. Palin might even have a shot if they did that.

xblade on September 8, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Wishful thinking, but it would be comedy gold for Hillary to run against Teh Won or for the Dems to push him out – the screams of ‘Its RACIST’ from Obozo would start, and the Congressional Black Caucus would freak out, and ‘Michellda Marcos’ would no longer be ‘Proud of her Country.’

theflyonthewall on September 8, 2011 at 4:19 PM

“Michellda Marcos”

+1

Mary in LA on September 8, 2011 at 6:29 PM