Breaking: FBI raids Solyndra

posted at 12:35 pm on September 8, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama plans on talking about using stimulus funds for job creation tonight.  Think he’ll mention Solyndra, which his administration fast-tracked to $535 million in taxpayer-financed loan guarantees?  Naaaah:

FBI agents armed with search warrants descended this morning on bankrupt solar company Solynrda this morning.

The investigation comes after a request by the Department of Energy’s inspector general, FBI spokesman Peter Lee told NBC Bay Area News.

Agents arrived at 7a.m. and are examining the factory. Solynrda has a skeleton crew of 100 workers on the scene, closing the factory down. A CNBC photographer on the scene says the FBI has promised a press conference. An agency spokesperson at its San Francisco headquarters says he’s unaware of any such plans.

Just to remind everyone, Obama touted Solyndra as an example of what government subsidies to green-tech firms could do for the economy and job creation.  So far, it’s managed to make $535 million disappear from the economy and took 1000 jobs with it.  As ABC reported yesterday, taxpayers are actually behind the company’s main investor, George Kaiser, in recouping the losses.  Coincidentally, Kaiser was a big bundler for Obama in 2008.

And coincidentally, his company made a lot of visits to the White House over a two-year period while getting the taxpayer subsidies, too (via Zombie at PJ Tatler):

Not only does the now-bankrupt solar energy firm Solyndra have a cozy financial  relationship with the Obama administration, company representatives also made numerous visits to the White House to meet with administration officials, The Daily Caller has learned.

According to White House visitor logs, between March 12, 2009, and April 14, 2011, Solyndra officials and investors made no fewer than 20 trips to the West Wing. In the week before the administration awarded Solyndra with the first-ever alternative energy loan guarantee on March 20, four separate visits were logged.

George Kaiser, who has in the past been labeled a major Solyndra investor as well as a Obama donor, made three visits to the White House on March 12, 2009, and one on March 13. Kaiser has denied any direct involvement in the Solyndra deal and through a statement from his foundation said he “did not participate in any discussions with the U.S. government regarding the loan.”

But the countless meetings at the White House seem hardly coincidental. Kaiser, in fact, is responsible for 16 of the 20 meetings that showed up on the White House logs.

Now we have the FBI raiding Obama’s pet green-tech company at the behest of a DoE Inspector General.  This of course prompts the question of when this IG gets the Gerald Walpin treatment.

With Obama about to make a case for even more government intervention and manipulation in markets, this raid couldn’t have come at a worse moment for the administration.  If this raid turns up any official corruption, though, this moment will look like a Sunday afternoon on a Martha’s Vineyard golf course by comparison.

Update: Oh, by the way, this was Solyndra’s gratitude for getting over a half-billion dollars in taxpayer subsidies:

The chief financial officer of bankrupt start-up Solyndra, which had ramped up its operations after getting a U.S. government loan for solar companies, declined to say on Wednesday if potential buyers would keep its business in the United States. Under questioning at a bankruptcy court hearing by a U.S. government attorney, CFO W.G. Stover declined to identify either of the two companies that have shown an interest in Solyndra’s operations or even where they were based. Asked if the potential buyers might move Solyndra’s unique solar cylinder business overseas, Stover would only say that doing so would increase the cost to a potential buyer.

Feeling the love yet?

Update II: Getting some of this in the comments:

Isn’t Holder in charge of the FBI? He will shut down the investigation and conduct a DOJ investigaton of his own in 5.4.3…

First, the FBI has performed professionally for decades in regards to politics; they learned their lesson from Watergate and the long Hoover reign.  Second, the DoJ isn’t conducting the investigation, and technically neither is the DoE.  The IG is an independent actor, and the FBI would have to turn over all products from the search to the IG.  However, it wouldn’t be a bad idea for Darrell Issa to insist on access to the materials as well, since Congress has oversight jurisdiction on executive-legislative agencies like the DoE.

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golfmann on September 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM

I wonder if their CEO would like to join the Witness Protection Program and sit in The Speaker’s Box for the speech tonight?

kingsjester on September 8, 2011 at 1:22 PM

That’s fine. I’m just saying that I haven’t read anything that forces me to conclude that any wrongdoing occurred.

blink on September 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM

Great, that’s three times you’ve said it now.

Go ahead and say it again, though. I’m not sure your concern has been seen by enough people yet.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 1:22 PM

“What do you mean your side of the bed is pushed down to the floor? Damn woman!”

VegasRick on September 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Only in the middle.

heshtesh on September 8, 2011 at 1:22 PM

UPDATE: A reader writes in with some interesting speculation:

As a lawyer who has done a fair amount of defense work, it strikes me as more than possible that someone tipped off Solyndra that they were under investigation and that the hammer was about to drop. Hence the quick meltdown and door-shutting. Just a hunch, but it seems likely, particularly given their connection to the administration and the fact that the Energy Department’s IG was doing the investigation.

NRO

Wethal on September 8, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Prof. Lichtman, your office is calling

ConservativePartyNow on September 8, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Thread winner!

Archimedes on September 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Call my cynical, but perhaps Obama sent them in to take control of the “evidence.” If the FBI puts it under lock and key Congress can’t touch it….

sandee on September 8, 2011 at 12:42 PM

That was my first thought before reading one comment:-)

bluefox on September 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM

They couldn’t have raided it last week?
Before the bankruptcy filing?
Lame attempt at cover from Gibson-gate.

mrt721 on September 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM

The chief financial officer of bankrupt start-up Solyndra, which had ramped up its operations after getting a U.S. government loan for solar companies, declined to say on Wednesday if potential buyers would keep its business in the United States.

Lets see, a $535,000,000 loan from the US government. Sounds like the US government IS the buyer.

iurockhead on September 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM

The news clip stated that the Bureau had search warrants. In order to get a search warrant, you must have probable cause, and be searching for specific evidence related to a criminal offense. At least that’s the case for state search warrants. A federal judge signed off on this warrant. My deduction, for what it’s worth, is that the Bureau has probable cause that a crime has been committed. Now if they will find evidence, and if it will be prosecuted if they do, is a whole different story.

kam582 on September 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Sorry to be so cynical but I’m in the camp with those who say this is a preemptive move by Holder and crew to hide the evidence.

red131 on September 8, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Much as he’d probably like to, Eric Holder can’t just order the FBI to conduct raids. So far we still have the 4th Amendment. For a raid to be conducted it requires a search warrant signed by a judge with jurisdiction. Any agency, including the IG of the DoE can go to a judge with an affidavit for a warrant laying out what they expect to find, why it’s the fruits and/or instrumentalities of a crime, and why they think it’s there. If the judge sees the merits of the affidavit he signs the warrant. A search warrant is an order to the police (in the case of a federal warrant, the FBI or other agency) to conduct the search. It’s not something the police have any discretion about, they must conduct the search and even Eric Holder can’t overrule the warrant. Frankly, I think the DoE IG got to the court before DoJ even know what was happening.

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Call my cynical, but perhaps Obama sent them in to take control of the “evidence.” If the FBI puts it under lock and key Congress can’t touch it….

sandee on September 8, 2011 at 12:42 PM

That was my first thought before reading one comment:-)

bluefox on September 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM

My thought too. Looks like I’m in great [cynical] company.

TulsAmerican on September 8, 2011 at 1:31 PM

That Ulsterman person wrote that some big scandal was going to hit really soon and that it would be an inside job to get him out of the WH. Don’t know how reliable that source is.

Key West Reader on September 8, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Excuse me what is this? Been out of the loop of late and I missed this one, linky please.

Archimedes on September 8, 2011 at 1:32 PM

kam582 on September 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM

We were thinking the same thing at the same time!

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Why didn’t Holder wait until after the speech tonight to authorize this raid?

kingsjester on September 8, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Well, he didn’t say what the raid was for, now did he? Are we assuming it’s for a good cause? The impression is that they are investigating “wrong doing”:-)

bluefox on September 8, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Hell… I was hoping that the MSM would be so emboldened by the Hoffa introduction, and the lack of real outrage… that we would finally get to see the Rashid Khalidi farewell party video…
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I guess that the LA Times still needs to get more courage encouraging evidence that the cost is clear before they come completely out of the closet.
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Here’s to hoping there is at least one doc exposed that shows Obama getting quid pro quo with Solyndra.
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RalphyBoy on September 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Wasn’t that a former Solyndra employee who called Levin last night exposing their fraud? That didn’t take long…

Shay on September 8, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Much as he’d probably like to, Eric Holder can’t just order the FBI to conduct raids. So far we still have the 4th Amendment. For a raid to be conducted it requires a search warrant signed by a judge with jurisdiction. Any agency, including the IG of the DoE can go to a judge with an affidavit for a warrant laying out what they expect to find, why it’s the fruits and/or instrumentalities of a crime, and why they think it’s there. If the judge sees the merits of the affidavit he signs the warrant. A search warrant is an order to the police (in the case of a federal warrant, the FBI or other agency) to conduct the search. It’s not something the police have any discretion about, they must conduct the search and even Eric Holder can’t overrule the warrant. Frankly, I think the DoE IG got to the court before DoJ even know what was happening.

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 1:31 PM

No offense, but don’t be naive.

If the ATF can operate with blank, pre-signed warrants, so can the FBI.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 1:41 PM

If the ATF can operate with blank, pre-signed warrants, so can the FBI.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 1:41 PM

What blank, pre-signed warrants would those be?

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Here’s to hoping there is at least one doc exposed that shows Obama getting quid pro quo with Solyndra.
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RalphyBoy on September 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Im sure we are going to find that while the administration might have been aware in broad terms that a loan was made. Himself and others in the administration were not aware of the operation or “loan”, as it was being carried out

Koa on September 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Plus, a whole lot of Solyndra visits at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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Which eliminates the need for anything to be written down… “It’s in the bag man”…
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RalphyBoy on September 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Sunlight is a great disinfectant.

It needs to be applied to the darkest regions of our federal government and all of its activities.

ajacksonian on September 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Excuse me what is this? Been out of the loop of late and I missed this one, linky please.

Archimedes on September 8, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Here. I think. There’s more at the site including this.

I had never heard of this before…

Fallon on September 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Okay, found it.

Author’s Note: This email was received from our White House Insider over the weekend. Originally we had intended a more complete face to face interview but a scheduling conflict required that meeting be rescheduled. The identities of non-material 3rd parties have been excluded:

facebook.com/Ulsterman1

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Sorry for having to cancel our face to face. I accepted advisory position with the -name withheld- campaign. Got a ton of work to do as time is short but nice to be “back in it.” Getting timely information from sources in WH increasingly difficult. Have not seen a situation where things were so tight as this current WH. Staff fear levels very high. Abnormally so. I caution you on your own attempts. Be very careful. Something beyond just the election cycle and loss of House going on now. Received reliable word that a “serious” scandal is being navigated by WH officials right now. At present unable to get clarification. Source is scared. I am not comfortable pushing so hard as to possibly endanger them. Attempting follow up on information with another source. Will contact you with that information when it becomes available. This sounds very serious though, and WH is cracking down on containment hard. Very hard. NYT is said to know something. Keep eyes n ears open as it appears, based on what I have so far, this will start to break open sooner than later. Developing.

Continue watching Pelosi as well. Democrats in House pushing her out regardless of election outcome. She is fighting back. Has some support within Party while other Democrats getting support from WH. -Name withheld- and others attempting to keep Party together despite eventual outcome, which is Pelosi is done as Speaker. Confirmed again. Pelosi is done. Two key House leaders agreed with WH to support move. She no longer has the numbers to protect herself. Heard from source within Pelosi office that Speaker considering retirement from House with PR campaign against Obama to follow. Developing.

Lastly, told HC turned down VP offer from WH. ”Thanks but no thanks.” MO infuriated with refusal from HC, though MO did not want Clinton as VP regardless. Feels Clintons do not respect them and cannot be trusted. HC still considering run in 2012. BC pushing hard with donors to support 2012 HC campaign and getting positive response. Believe HC to reveal more intent shortly after midterms. Developing.

Really will try to talk in person soon. Again – be careful. The current climate has become much more serious. I mean it. STAY ALERT. BE CAREFUL. WATCH YOUR BACK

Verrrry interesting scuttlebut…but, sounds a wee tad melodramatic to me, possibly someone a little needy trying to garner attention. None the less, if there is any substance to it I’ll be the first to start popping the Champers.

Just so happens, I’m sitting on a vintage La Grande Dame that’d be perfect for the occasion!

Archimedes on September 8, 2011 at 1:49 PM

The question is why? Are they in there to cover tracks, or to gather evidence for prosecution?

With Obama at the top and gun runner as the model, whereby the top enforcement agencies were complicite in serious crimes, why should they not be doint the same thing here to cover up for the White House?

The problem with hiring people who believe that any means to an end is acceptable is that they can never -repeat -never, be trusted.

Don L on September 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Maybe this is just a smoke screen to cover all the other scandals of the Downgrade Administration.

Chip on September 8, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Maybe this is the DNC’s way of pushing King Barry out in order to run someone else?

Is my tinfoil hat malfunctioning?

Knucklehead on September 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM

His house of cards may be falling down.

Chip on September 8, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Raid was to stop Congressional subpoenas.

pat on September 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM

First, the FBI has performed professionally for decades in regards to politics; they learned their lesson from Watergate and the long Hoover reign.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha *wheeze* hahahahahahahahahaha….

Ed, you are so clueless when it comes to real corruption and governmental malfeasance.

This is not something where the “in fairness” attitude makes you look all statesmanlike and evenhanded. You look like a chump when you posit that there is no interconnection and/or corruption spreading down from the Traitor-in-Chief, via Holder, to the government minions of any and every agency.

MrScribbler on September 8, 2011 at 1:53 PM

A drop in price should indicate a few things….

1. Being a new, expensive product, large drops in retail price (tanking) means demand is solid and growing, and production is beginning to catch up in quantity and more manufacturers are entering the field.

2. Demand is up, but this company goes down the tubes. That means it’s business model was never going to succeed. That takes planning.

BobMbx on September 8, 2011 at 12:51 PM

3. A bankruptcy fire-sale due to excessive inventory, high production prices, low demand and piss-poor management!

I vote #3.

dominigan on September 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Results of any “investigation” will probably be released some time after 2016. If they don’t meet a paper shredder first.

GarandFan on September 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM

It’s also quite possible that some in the DOE believed that this company really was a great investment for the taxpayer to make.

Was Kaiser’s loan prior to or after the DOE loan? Was Kaiser’s loan getting less of a interest rate than DOE? Does anyone know?

blink on September 8, 2011 at 12:43 PM

If Solyndra was “a great investment” they wouldn’t have needed a taxpayer loan in the first place. Private investors would have been happy to invest if Solyndra had been a solid company with good management, making a product that it could sell for a reasonable profit. But that was not the case, at least according to the credit ratings agency that reviewed them at the time they applied for the government loan. Yet somehow, despite their shaky prospects, Solyndra obtained the loan anyway — and at lower interest rates than other similarly-situated energy companies were getting. And yes, Kaiser and the other investors made their loan to the company after the DOE loan, but the DOE loan was then restructured so that it would be subordinate to the investors’ loan.

Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire, and there is enough smoke here to choke a horse. It’ll be interesting to see how many people get burned by this fire, and how high up the flames go.

AZCoyote on September 8, 2011 at 2:00 PM

FBI to Solyndra: We want our half-billion back NOW !!!

Steve Z on September 8, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Thuggery at its finest.

sadatoni on September 8, 2011 at 2:08 PM

What blank, pre-signed warrants would those be?

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM

The ones they use when they raid gun dealers and owners, and seize their assets, while planting evidence.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 2:17 PM

Just so happens, I’m sitting on a vintage La Grande Dame that’d be perfect for the occasion!
Archimedes on September 8, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Don’t open it.

rukiddingme on September 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Now we have the FBI raiding Obama’s pet green-tech company at the behest of a DoE Inspector General. This of course prompts the question of when this IG gets the Gerald Walpin treatment.

5… 4… 3…

petefrt on September 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM

As bad as this might be, we can’t take our eye of the Fast and Furious fiasco. While this is corruption in the old Chicago style, the FF concerns the death of federal agents.

But this is BAD too….

itsspideyman on September 8, 2011 at 2:19 PM

First, the FBI has performed professionally for decades in regards to politics; they learned their lesson from Watergate and the long Hoover reign blah blah blah

1. Ruby Ridge
2. Waco
3. Elian Gonzalez
4. ????

BobMbx on September 8, 2011 at 2:19 PM

You know, it may sound political, but I almost thinking that it is time for impeachment papers to be drawn up

ConservativePartyNow on September 8, 2011 at 2:21 PM

That’s fine. I’m just saying that I haven’t read anything that forces me to conclude that any wrongdoing occurred.

blink on September 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM

The taxpayers are being bilked so a WH crony can be first in line to get his. This is wrongdoing.

Take your blinders off, and you will see a bucketful of wrongdoing. You are making an ass of yourself by repeating the same line lie over and over.

hillbillyjim on September 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM

The ones they use when they raid gun dealers and owners, and seize their assets, while planting evidence.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 2:17 PM

You claimed the ATF operates with blank, pre-signed warrants.
I’m not saying I doubt you, but could you please cite specific examples of this, rather than anecdotal generalizations?

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Call my cynical, but perhaps Obama sent them in to take control of the “evidence.” If the FBI puts it under lock and key Congress can’t touch it….

That is exactly what happens. You’ll be able to see the evidence in the next Republican administration.

Darrell Issa can go urinate up a rope…

patch on September 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Wasn’t Biden put in charge of all the stimulus distributions and accountability?

Just sayin.

stenwin77 on September 8, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Now we have the FBI raiding Obama’s pet green-tech company at the behest of a DoE Inspector General. This of course prompts the question of when this IG gets the Gerald Walpin treatment.

That was my very first thought.

INC on September 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM

FBI to Solyndra: We want our half-billion back NOW !!!

Steve Z on September 8, 2011 at 2:02 PM

The Chicago Way (NSFW)

JohnGalt23 on September 8, 2011 at 2:34 PM

You claimed the ATF operates with blank, pre-signed warrants.
I’m not saying I doubt you, but could you please cite specific examples of this, rather than anecdotal generalizations?

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Nope. But I can prove that they perjure themselves in order to get wiretaps and warrants. It’s not much of a stretch to go beyond that.

But thanks for not saying you doubt me.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Let’s see what’s in Obama’s pockets, er bank accounts, the world over.

Schadenfreude on September 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM

And here’s the link to the proof that they perjure themselves.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM

The one item that I can guarantee is ….

NOTHING will come of this until AFTER the next election!

Freddy on September 8, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Nope. But I can prove that they perjure themselves in order to get wiretaps and warrants. It’s not much of a stretch to go beyond that.

But thanks for not saying you doubt me.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Well now I’m afraid I do doubt you completely. You made the statement that ATF (and, relative to this thread, by extension the FBI) opeartes with blank, pre-signed warrants. When confronted you’ve completely backed off the statement and admitted you have no proof to back it up.

You know what? I have spent my entire working life as a police officer and am immensely proud of my career and the work of my fellow law enforcement officers who are overwhelmingly honest, honorable, decent men and women. It’s a hard enough job to do without coming under spurious and baseless attacks from people who don’t know what they’re talking about. I’m not naive enough to believe that all law enforcement officers are perfect, but next time you want to attack them please make sure you can back it up.

Thank you and have a nice day!

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Well now I’m afraid I do doubt you completely. You made the statement that ATF (and, relative to this thread, by extension the FBI) opeartes with blank, pre-signed warrants. When confronted you’ve completely backed off the statement and admitted you have no proof to back it up.

You know what? I have spent my entire working life as a police officer and am immensely proud of my career and the work of my fellow law enforcement officers who are overwhelmingly honest, honorable, decent men and women. It’s a hard enough job to do without coming under spurious and baseless attacks from people who don’t know what they’re talking about. I’m not naive enough to believe that all law enforcement officers are perfect, but next time you want to attack them please make sure you can back it up.

Thank you and have a nice day!

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 2:55 PM

ATF aren’t law enforcement officers; they’re Gestapo gun thugs who operate lawlessly and make up the rules as they go along. I didn’t attack any LEOs, champ.

And yeah, I made you as a cop a mile away. Thanks for keeping the debate from getting personal. /

Fact is, I can prove that the ATF has broken the law on numerous occasions. So your response is nothing but bluster, and thin-skinned butthurt bluster at that, considering you’re taking offense when you’re not even part of the ATF.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 3:08 PM

I think people are missing the point, here.

Some sort of overt fraud at Solyndra is the absolute best-case scenario for Obama.

What makes him sound worse?

“These thieves and capitalist tricksters fooled us with phony numbers, falsified documents and illegal procedures in order to scam the American people out of half a billion dollars.”

OR

“I foolishly game $500 million of you money to a green jobs boondoggle with a business plan that consisted of selling dollars for fifty cents and making up the loss on volume.”

CTD on September 8, 2011 at 3:23 PM

ATF aren’t law enforcement officers; they’re Gestapo gun thugs who operate lawlessly and make up the rules as they go along. I didn’t attack any LEOs, champ.

I’m so sorry that your fury about the ATF has blinded you to logic. ATF and FBI most certainly are law enforcement agencies. Your ranting and your implication that the FBI operates on blank, pre-signed search warrants were unsupported by any documentation or proof and constitute an attack on the law enforcement community, and I most certainly am a member of that.

Please go foam at the mouth elsewhere.

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Prior to the DOE loan guarantee, the firm’s auditors gave an opinion expressing concern that the firm would not survive as a going concern. For an accounting form to render that opinion things already looked very bleak, and yet our intellectual superiors in this administration (8% of the WH advisers have real world experience – the lowest in 100 years)decided full speed ahead and let’s put the taxpayers on the hook for 1/2 Billion to save the as$ of a major campaign bundler for Obama.

Nothing to see here, move along.

in_awe on September 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM

CTD on September 8, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Wrong.

These people were his 2008 donors.

You have zero clue.

tetriskid on September 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM

We’ll find out who the rogue I.G. is when he does interviews about how he was driving home and got a call from the Washington telling him to pull over and either resign or get fired, a la Gerald Walpin and $hirley $herrod.

L.N. Smithee on September 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM

This whole thing reeks…

Maybe the FBI is investigating and maybe its destroying evidence.

It doesn’t take very many bad cops to negate the good ones. Some organizations stink at a great distance and some are really clean.

I think the honest cops could do a lot more to flush the crooked ones, but that would require a level of backbone which seems to be lacking in most government employees.

I personally know honest and crooked cops. This week, unfortunately, group 2 is larger. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t both kinds (and some in between.)

I think there’s probably enough evidence for indictments for major felonies up to and including treason for lots of people in this administration and the related bureaucracies. Betting on that happening is a bit sporty for me.

I think we’ll be bloody lucky to have a nation and food by the time the smoke clears.

CrazyGene on September 8, 2011 at 3:40 PM

tetriskid on September 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM

No need for insults. My default assumption is that government largess is handed out largely on the basis of cronyism. I’ve no doubt that that could have happened in this case. But I was talking about how the two narratives would be perceived by the public vis-a-vis Obama. Most of the public doesn’t follow news like this closely. Barring some criminal conviction and/or resignation of home highly-recognizable administration official, the former option will play much better with Joe Sixpack than the latter.

That’s unfortunate, because I’d actually prefer a leader to admit a mistake (even a big one) and show some sign of introspection afterward about how it was made and why.

CTD on September 8, 2011 at 3:41 PM

good. lets raid AIG next.

maineconservative on September 8, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Wonder who Solyndra met with on all those WH visits.

Placing my bet on Valerie Jarrett.

perries on September 8, 2011 at 4:01 PM

I just heard that the WH wants to ‘invest’ another $420 million into several other solar companies.

This is just insanity.

RedbonePro on September 8, 2011 at 4:13 PM

I guess by reading the other posts here, I’m not the only one who is a little skeptical of this raid. I’m more concerned that the FBI went to Solyndra more in an effort to help cover up than it will to expose.

pjean on September 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Look for this story to appear on page D-57 in the NY Times.

johnboy on September 8, 2011 at 4:34 PM

They Will not find any evidence of wrong doing, or there will be show trials.

Slowburn on September 8, 2011 at 4:35 PM

I’m so sorry that your fury about the ATF has blinded you to logic. ATF and FBI most certainly are law enforcement agencies. Your ranting and your implication that the FBI operates on blank, pre-signed search warrants were unsupported by any documentation or proof and constitute an attack on the law enforcement community, and I most certainly am a member of that.

Please go foam at the mouth elsewhere.

Trafalgar on September 8, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Your proof by assertion aside, you are seeking conflict where none exists.

I suggest you instead seek anger management.

You sound just like the type of cop that bullies citizens around. Thanks for reinforcing the stereotype.

fossten on September 8, 2011 at 4:41 PM

I just took a peek at the bankruptcy court docket. Amongst the flurry of activity, the debtor has filed a motion to continue its use of the corporate credit cards. Granted.

Also, a motion and subsequent order prohibiting utility companies from cutting off services during the proceedings.

Irony abound.

cgoode777 on September 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Is it cynical to believe a corrupt White House and corrupt DOJ is preemptively trying to get their corrupt hands on some evidence that will expose their corruption? I don’t think so. There is no way this came about without Holder’s direct intervention. Barry traded a government loan for campaign cash, and they are just awfully afraid that somewhere in the file drawers of Solyndra someone actually mentioned that in a memo. As someone else here said, Issa needs to get his hands on this material fast — before it hits the shredder.

The good news is that the media is going to be so busy covering up all of Barry’s scandals they won’t notice he’s losing his re-election campaign.

Rational Thought on September 8, 2011 at 5:17 PM

This is highly suspicious.

Not the fact that somebody ran off with bags full of taxpayer dollars; that’s business as usual these days.

But why, after the trillions of dollars handed out over the past three years did they suddenly decide to jump up and investigate THIS nickle-and-dime scam?

Eh, probably all just a giant smoke screen. Some hippie scapegoat was set up so the administration can claim: “Look, we tracked down 0.04% of the money we ‘loaned’ to our campaign contributors.”

logis on September 8, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Under Barackito Obamalini “Of, by and for the people” has become “Of, by and for the criminals”. Why don’t the wimpy Republicans start calling him a criminal as it is clear as day, that is what he is.

Lon Chaney on September 8, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Now we have the FBI raiding Obama’s pet green-tech company at the behest of a DoE Inspector General. This of course prompts the question of when this IG gets the Gerald Walpin treatment.

Unlike U.S. military generals this Inspector General and Gerald Walpin have some guts.

Lon Chaney on September 8, 2011 at 5:29 PM

this raid couldn’t have come at a worse moment for the administration.

The anti-journalism MSM and the gutless Republicans will say just about nothing about all of this so it will almost be as though none of it, and so many other things, even happened.

Lon Chaney on September 8, 2011 at 5:33 PM

By now a good Special Prosecutor could get Obama about 10,000 years in prison.

Lon Chaney on September 8, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Um, Ed? The “FBI has acted professionally”…. would that include Waco and Elian Gonzalez?

Thankfully, this is actually under a TRUE independant — an IG. But, yes, as Ed asked, when does this one get the Walpin treatment?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on September 8, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Rush said that they were collecting incriminating evidence against Obama..

reshas1 on September 8, 2011 at 5:53 PM

That’s fine. I’m just saying that I haven’t read anything that forces me to conclude that any wrongdoing occurred.

blink on September 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM

rubs blink’s nose in puddle of diarrhea representing Obama’s half-billion dollar baby

Do you see it now?

disa on September 8, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Is my tinfoil hat malfunctioning?

Knucklehead on September 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Only if these radio transmissions are wrong that I’ve been hearing through the silver fillings in my teeth.

GrannyDee on September 8, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Shredders at the FBI offices going full bore.

a capella on September 8, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Into the Solyndcracal file?

Barnestormer on September 8, 2011 at 6:13 PM

First, the FBI has performed professionally for decades in regards to politics; they learned their lesson from Watergate and the long Hoover reign blah blah blah

1. Ruby Ridge
2. Waco
3. Elian Gonzalez
4. ????

BobMbx on September 8, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Ed: IIRC the on scene FBI supervisor at Ruby Ridge was given a letter of reprimand by Freeh and then made his number two man. No problem there. They acted REAL professional when they shitcanned the Minneapolis bureau’s suspicion about Moussasoui.

arnold ziffel on September 8, 2011 at 7:11 PM

The administration will be seeking to put distance between itself and this “rogue” operation. If they can find the right person to take a fall for Solyndra then they can go back to “normal green-energy operations”. As long as this shining example of eco-political corruption is on display, their energy scam is on hold. Before the election gets going, they will want this cleaned up.

Maybe they should send the EPA in … no, wait.

virgo on September 9, 2011 at 1:34 AM

Obama and his cronies at the FBI are engaged in a crime!
The crime: destroying evidence in a major ongoing investigation.
This is a national outrage!
We need honest people in the FBI to blow the whistle!
We need the House of Representatives to call for an investigation!

Mark7788 on September 9, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Call my cynical, but perhaps Obama sent them in to take control of the “evidence.” If the FBI puts it under lock and key Congress can’t touch it….

That is exactly what happens. You’ll be able to see the evidence in the next Republican administration.

patch on September 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Called my congressman and his take is that the evidence can not be kept from congress,destroyed,laundered but as with gunrunner somebody will sing.

Col.John Wm. Reed on September 9, 2011 at 8:55 PM

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