Of presidents and kings

posted at 12:50 pm on September 2, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Dr. James Joyner has a thoughtful essay this week on the proper role and treatment of presidents and other governmental figures. Titled “We Have a President, Not a King” he explores the reactions of the president, the public and members of congress during the recent food fight over Obama’s upcoming address to congress.

Despite the mythology that has been built up over the years, the president is not in charge of the Congress and the Speaker of the House owes him no deference whatsoever aside from the courtesy of calling him “Mr. President.” Boehner answers only to the constituents of Ohio’s 8th Congressional District and, as Speaker, to the House Republican Caucus.

Nor is the Speaker in any way obligated to jump through hoops to accommodate the president’s political schedule. An address to a Joint Session of Congress is a rare event, usually reserved for the annual State of the Union address and the occasional breaking emergency. Given a week’s notice and an obviously-politically-motivated ploy to hold the speech precisely when the Republican debate was long scheduled–not to mention only a few hours after Congress returns from a scheduled recess– it’s hardly unreasonable to insist the president push off a day.

Frankly, given that the incredible likelihood that there will be nothing new here, with the president using the Congress as a background prop for what amounts to a political stump speech, Boehner would have been well within his rights to decline the request altogether. The television networks have quite often made that decision in recent years.

The item that set Dr. Joyner off was a nearly inexplicable piece at MEDIAite by Tommy Christopher, where he somehow saw this event as reason enough to call on John Boehner to resign. (Joyner’s colleague, Doug Mataconis, wrote about it as well.)

This isn’t the first unprecedented Republican insult to the presidency under Barack Obama (but it is, by far, the worst), and it isn’t even the first time John Boehner has tried to make the President “heel” with his datebook. It ought to be the last. Every American who has an appropriate respect for the office of the presidency should demand that John Boehner resign, and every legislator should amplify that demand. The problems facing this country are too great to be left in the hands of someone with such contempt for its highest office.

By way of disclosure, I personally like Tommy. I’ve done some radio hits with him and have frequently enjoyed his acerbic sense of humor when it comes to the vagaries of American political life. (Which is frequently similar to my own.) But in this case, I honestly can’t fathom what he was thinking when he published that piece.

When the news came out about the presidential request for a joint congressional session and how it played out, it seemed to me that President Obama was really acting like a … jerk. (For a peek inside the publishing process, I went through roughly a half dozen words there before settling on one which wouldn’t have had the management calling me out on the carpet.) I’m sorry to say, but there simply are no “coincidences” of this sort when you get to that level of the game. Sure… if I went and asked ten random workers at the local construction site when the next GOP debate was – assuming I could find ten people with jobs, that is – odds are that nine of them wouldn’t know. But for Barack Obama and his inner circle – a group engaged in a near panic level focus on trying to salvage the next election and finding out who they will face – the idea that they weren’t aware of the debate schedule is preposterous.

I will take a slightly different angle than James Joyner, though, and point out that respect is earned by giving it in return, not simply by assuming a seat in some particular chair. And this goes for the President in his dealings with the Speaker as well. I see no other explanation for this than the likely proposition that Obama was simply trying to grandstand. If he could step on the GOP debate with some “historic” address to the Congress, he could demonstrate his Alpha Dog status by making them defer. And by immediately backing down as soon as Boehner sent a polite letter citing logistical reasons for pushing it back 24 hours, the effort blew up in his face. The only real question for me was, if he didn’t have a back-up plan in the event the Speaker demurred, why try this stunt at all?

But even for all that, I wasn’t about to suggest that the President resign over it. If we got rid of every politician in Washington who acted like a jerk the place would have a population roughly matching that of Chernobyl today. Calling for Boehner to step down over this was more than a little bit of hyperbole even if you think Boehner was wrong. And in this case, he wasn’t.

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This kings’ subjects!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19v5Kjmc8FI

PappyD61 on September 2, 2011 at 12:59 PM

I would like obama to resign, but that’s me.

Hard Right on September 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Obama is becoming his failed father

faraway on September 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Sorry…I’m on Boehners side on this one. This speech is about jobs. It is a national crisis, but hardly worthy of reading the teleprompter in the House.

It’s going to be more crap on the crud he’s already spewed. He could have easily read his widdle prompter in the oval office, or fireside, or while he’s on the toilet. People just can’t take anymore of this imbecile.

Correction: CORRUPT imbecile.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 1:01 PM

The difference between a nation ruled by men and a nation ruled by laws. Obama isn’t a King who can dole out indulgences to his supporters. It shouldn’t be that way, but it’s turning out that way.

Paul-Cincy on September 2, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Resign now. He can always get a job as the new Burger King.

50sGuy on September 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM

From http://thepeoplescube.com/

Barack Obama 2012: Because a Time-out will damage his self esteem.

[Mere text doesn’t do the image justice]

Chip on September 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM

The three branches of the government are co-equal, and Boehner should have told 0bama where to stuff his demands.

Rebar on September 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM

If we got rid of every politician in Washington who acted like a jerk the place would have a population roughly matching that of Chernobyl today.

Frankly, that’d be an improvement. Bastards.

OhioCoastie on September 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM

The only real question for me was, if he didn’t have a back-up plan in the event the Speaker demurred, why try this stunt at all?

I imagine the same back-up plan he had when he flew all the way to Copenhagen to pitch Chicago for the olympics.

He honestly feels that he will never be turned down for anything, therefore no plan B is ever needed.

DrAllecon on September 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Good write up.

To compound the issue, President Tora Bora ended up caving anyway, which only adds to his legacy of spinelessness. Tommy’s got issues with the fact that his god-man is experiencing repeated feelings of mere mortality and, as we know, kool aid drinking kooks are loathe to admit their errors in judgment.

GoodSamaritan on September 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Remember the Bush-Gore debate, when Gore tried to stand over Bush as he answered a question? Boehner has faced his Bush-Gore moment and passed. He wasn’t flashy, he wasn’t petulant – he acted like an adult correcting a pretend bully.

AubieJon on September 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM

the idea that they weren’t aware of the debate schedule is preposterous.

I don’t know what’s worse. The Obama administration admitting they knew of the conflict, or admitting they’re all that ignorant.

taznar on September 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM

acting like a … jerk.

The word you were looking for starts with a ‘D’.

Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2011 at 1:04 PM

If we inquire into the business of a king, we shall find that in some countries they may have none; and after sauntering away their lives without pleasure to themselves or advantage to the nation, withdraw from the scene, and leave their successors to tread the same idle round. In absolute monarchies the whole weight of business civil and military lies on the king; the children of Israel in their request for a king urged this plea, “that he may judge us, and go out before us and fight our battles.” But in countries where he is neither a judge nor a general, as in England, a man would be puzzled to know what is his business.

A column with this title is incomplete without a reference to “Common Sense” by Thomas Paine.

ted c on September 2, 2011 at 1:04 PM

“I won!”

Jerk.

coldwarrior on September 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM

The television networks have quite often made that decision in recent years.

Yes, for other presidents. But have they ever denied Obama?

AZCoyote on September 2, 2011 at 1:06 PM

That picture is absolutely perfect.

Obamalini Mussolini

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Boehner should’ve said yes to the request and about a minute before President DDD’s arrival ordered the doors to chamber locked.

TXUS on September 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Jerk.

coldwarrior on September 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Jerks are indignant. This guy is a thug, leading a carnival, inept French rulers and their court.

It tells how it must have felt in France, ahead of the forbidden word on HA.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Reminded me of Cenk Unger’s diatribe about this subject.

I loved how these liberals showed deference to George W while he was in office.

Bunch of hypocrites.

ButterflyDragon on September 2, 2011 at 1:09 PM

This was predicted when Obama announced the closure of Gitmo …

… what do you do when you don’t want to capture them any more …

CIA shifts focus to killing targets

J_Crater on September 2, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Resign now. He can always get a job as the new Burger King.

50sGuy on September 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM

LOL!!! Pee Wee has (I believe it’s still going) broadway show, based on his old tv show, but geared more towards adults. Obama could be the new King of Cartoons! LOL

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

The King is taking another Royal Vacation this weekend

faraway on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Obama is becoming his failed father

faraway on September 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Brilliant, faraway! One wonders when the drinking and decompensation will become apparent.

Mason on September 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Bunch of hypocrites.

ButterflyDragon on September 2, 2011 at 1:09 PM

yup

cmsinaz on September 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Too bad they still aren’t running those old Imperial margarine commercials, where some goof smears the stuff on a slice of bread, takes a bite, and TA-DA-DA-DA, a crown appears on his head!

When it comes to Obama, oh the places we could go with that commercial in mind!

pilamaye on September 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM

I’m in the midst of a feisty debate with some folks over on FB about how Boehner’s “refusal” to attend the Joint Session Lecture (never mind that it was not a refusal at all…) is further evidence of the unprecedented disrespect which this POTUS has faced, and how this is evidence of RACISM. Boggles the mind. After 8 years of the most vicious and vile ad hominem attacks against 43, suddenly the POTUS is supposed to be treated like he sat Ex Cathadra. The doublethink is simply astonishing.

Noocyte on September 2, 2011 at 1:12 PM

OT: it looks like Texas may get a little liquid sunshine this weekend…here’s hoping you get lots of it!!!

cmsinaz on September 2, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Of course, little things like previously scheduled Republican Debates do not matter when the King wants to grace his peons with his benevolent presence.

Obama’s problem, however, is that this is not his royal kingdom, and he is not our king. Americans revolted and overthrew our last monarch almost 250 years ago. The president must ask permission from congressional leaders in order to deliver a joint address.

kingsjester on September 2, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Screw Barry.

If he thinks stepping on the game, Green bay vs. New Orleans, is going to get ME to support him, then he is having delusions far beyond granduer.

Kuffar on September 2, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Perhaps Tommy might consider that Congress doesn’t want to be used as a presidential ‘photo op’.

GarandFan on September 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM

You personally like a guy who is an unrepentant and mendacious turd.

Well, that makes it OK, then.

A Balrog of Morgoth on September 2, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I am afraid is depressed and drinking too much. I hope he gets the help he needs.

borntoraisehogs on September 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM

pilamaye on September 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM

ROFLMAO!!!!

I could see a slogan from this, by Obama.

King Barack. He’s the queen of this hive!!! LOL

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Our Cabbage gots blings.

CINC- Cabbage in Chief

and Mochelle has wings but she prefers to order the taxpayer lobster instead….

viking01 on September 2, 2011 at 1:19 PM

The three branches of the government are co-equal, and Boehner should have told 0bama where to stuff his demands.

Rebar on September 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Boehner handled it perfectly. If he had told 0 to shove off, he would have been the bad guy. Instead he suggested a different day, which happens to be the opening night of NFL games. Heh. And if, as usual, 0 is late so he can demonstrate his power by making people wait for him, and he runs into game time, a whole lot of broadcasters will be switching to the game, or a whole lot of people are going to be seriously peeved that 0 made them miss the kickoff just to listen to him saying nothing new. Win-win for Boehner.

I suppose 0 could just tell the NFL to reschedule, like he tried to tell the organizers of the Republican debate. I wonder how that would go over?

iurockhead on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Obama should listen to dear old dad

Obama Sr. published a paper entitled “Problems Facing Our Socialism” in the East Africa Journal, harshly criticising the blueprint for national planning

faraway on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

OT: it looks like Texas may get a little liquid sunshine this weekend…here’s hoping you get lots of it!!!

cmsinaz on September 2, 2011 at 1:14 PM

I sure hope so. Foundations are starting to buckle…and if you don’t have insurance, or keep the ground around your home watered sufficiently, they crack. If that happens, we’re talking 10′s of thousands in repairs. It is not good, and we really, really, REALLY need this rain. :(

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

The President reports to Congress, not the other way around.
I don’t think this WH even knows how this works. Bush’s staff was very respectful of Pelosi and Hassert and all such reports were coordinated.

pat on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

By way of disclosure, I personally like Tommy. I’ve done some radio hits with him and have frequently enjoyed his acerbic sense of humor when it comes to the vagaries of American political life. (Which is frequently similar to my own.) But in this case, I honestly can’t fathom what he was thinking when he published that piece.

The end of your last sentence holds the answer. He published that piece, but he likely didn’t write it, as it says the exact same thing the NY Times said at almost the exact same time.

Journolist lives!

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Well put, Jazz. Tommy’s demand for Boehner’s resignation was asinine.

KS Rex on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Obama could be the new King of Cartoons! LOL

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

ROFL!!!!!! :)

50sGuy on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Since Boehner could have told Obama that the Congress just didn’t have the time to waste on another of his platitude filled speeches, it seems that trying for alternate date was pretty nice.

katiejane on September 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

In the original Pee Wee Herman (adult) show, aired on HBO, the King of Cartoons was the distinguished black actor William Marshall (Blacula). Captain Carl was Phil Hoffman.

kingsjester on September 2, 2011 at 1:23 PM

I am so sick of looking at his sour puss face.

2012 can’t come soon enough.

portlandon on September 2, 2011 at 1:23 PM

I mean Phil Hartman. Sheesh.

kingsjester on September 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Many people want (need?) a strong “leader” that will fufill the “i need to be lead” feeling. After all a large number of people remained loyal to the Commonwealth and King George. I think this is why so many europeans look at the US as being a deeply flawed country. They are from the stock of people who have had kings for centuries. I’ve seen Europeans brag about how their great-great-grandfarther worked on a Lord estate…very proud of that.

The odd bird out is the US as founded 200 plus years ago. Yesterday i lurked over at HuffPo and one of the commenters really didn’t understand and just blurted out “He’s the President after all!”.

Right.

r keller on September 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Oh, the Mediaite piece is easily explicable. Just look at the byline.

Jim Treacher on September 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM

This President admires kings and dictators, he bows to kings and dictators, he aspires to be a king or a dictator like Hu Jintao, he admits he’s jealous of the premier of China, he’s annoyed by and holds in contempt our legislative branch and he’s conspired to control our judicial branch, he rules by decree only limited by how much he can get away with, Obama considers himself entitled to a totalitarian regime.

Never should this nation underestimate his ambition or trust his desires to have limits.

Speakup on September 2, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Perfect picture of him. He is so far above everyone and has that haughty tilt to his head!

Bambi on September 2, 2011 at 1:28 PM

Tommy Christopher has some issues. Ideology doesn’t really explain this freakout over the time and date of Obama’s ridiculous speech.

forest on September 2, 2011 at 1:28 PM

PLEASE STOP THE AUTO RUN VIDEO AD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

faraway on September 2, 2011 at 1:28 PM

I have a serious question for the commenters here since I am an infrequent poster but voracious reader, and always impressed by the back-and-forth.

Exactly how much authority to revoke Congressional initiatives does the President have?

Could a Palin or a Perry or even Romney just issue a hundred executive orders and dismantle the Community Reinvestment Act, Obamacare, the Dodd Frank nonsense? Could the President order DOJ and other federal lawyers to drop the nonsense lawsuits?

BemusedMalkinite on September 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM

But for Barack Obama and his inner circle – a group engaged in a near panic level focus on trying to salvage the next election and finding out who they will face – the idea that they weren’t aware of the debate schedule is preposterous.

Yesterday they admitted that they knew but it’s just a cable TV show so it’s no biggie.

disa on September 2, 2011 at 1:32 PM

OT – finally getting around to reading Corsi’s Where’s the Birth Certificate? and it’s really chock full of faaaaascinating background.

Pretty awesome stuff. I especially invite all of you who airily wave off the notion that this is a fishy fish in Denmark. Read the book. You don’t even have to admit you read it or discuss it with anyone. Just read it.

disa on September 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Can you imagine the explosion in the White House and the old media if Speaker John Boehner notified little Bammie that he would like him to assemble his cabinet in the White House so he could come there and address them?

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 1:42 PM

I will take a slightly different angle…though, and point out that respect is earned by giving it in return, not simply by assuming a seat in some particular chair.

This is the heart of the matter. GWB was a gentleman, in every way, and he deserved to be treated as he treated others — with respect — but instead he was treated to documentary films imagining his assassination and, yes, unprecedented disrespect from the floors of Congress. That level of discourse, brought to the nation ENTIRELY by the modern democrat party, has continued, and among its chief operators is our current president. He is rude. He is uncouth. He bullies and belittles all with whom he disagrees. He engages in such abhorrent behaviors as surreptitiously “flipping the bird” to his opponents — a woman, no less. He is graceless, unrefined, a churlish bore. Such men not only do not deserve respect, they deserve our contempt and they deserve to be drummed out of public life.

Rational Thought on September 2, 2011 at 1:46 PM

faraway on September 2, 2011 at 1:28 PM

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Speakup on September 2, 2011 at 1:57 PM

This isn’t the first unprecedented Republican insult to the presidency under Barack Obama.

Every American who has an appropriate respect for the office of the presidency should demand that John Boehner resign, and every legislator should amplify that demand.

Wow.

Apparently everyone who disagrees with the Jug-Eared-Dope should resign.

I see his point given the amount of respect and warmth that these same lib-tards gave Bush. Oh wait.

Tim_CA on September 2, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Are they serious? Nevermind, of course they are. Do they not remember this President sneering at these same Republicans “I won”? Do they not remember this President telling these same Republicans they could ride the bus with him but in the back of it? And to shut up while he fixed what they broke? Of course, all of this was when his party controlled the presidency, the senate and the house.

Sue on September 2, 2011 at 2:14 PM

If President Obama wanted to make a prime-time major speech on jobs on the evening of the Republican debate, he could have made it from the Oval Office, and Boehner or the Republican debate candidates could not have stopped him. He would have then competed for viewers with the Republican debate, and could have blamed Republicans in Congress all he wished for the nation’s economic woes.

But if the President insists on a speech before a joint session of Congress, in whom “all legislative authority is vested” by the Constitution, Speaker Boehner, as the duly elected leader of one House of Congress, has the right to convene the House on a day that he, Obama, and Senate Leader Harry Reid all agree that it should be convened.

Obama must think of himself as a Prime Minister of England, who can tell Parliament full of yes-men what to do, but an American President cannot dictate to a co-equal Congress. Besides, if he had been Prime Minister of England with a House of Commons controlled by the other party, he would have already been deposed by a “vote of no confidence”. In the current political situtation, Boehner could never have Obama impeached, but he CAN choose the day to be lectured to.

Steve Z on September 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM

I would like obama to resign, but that’s me.

Hard Right on September 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Not me. I want the American people to fire him on a level never before seen, that his forced socialist game not be tried again. He can blame Bush, racism, AGW, or Fox News, or his horoscope all he wants for all I care.

The world must see that America has mandated against his Marxist inclinations -then, we need to clean our the other scoundrels (in both parties) who pretend that they wish America well -instead of the funeral they had planned for her.

Don L on September 2, 2011 at 2:19 PM

The White House is now walking back expectations for little Bammie’s speech, now saying that it will not be the entire plan, only some kind of outline, or talking points? WTH. Why does he bother?

This will be a campaign speech, and an attack on Republicans.

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Boehner should resign, but not over this. In this case he’s actually in the right, as opposed to the ongoing series of budget deals sell-outs.

Cylor on September 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM

The White House is now walking back expectations for little Bammie’s speech, now saying that it will not be the entire plan, only some kind of outline, or talking points? WTH. Why does he bother?

This will be a campaign speech, and an attack on Republicans.

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

He’s such a tease!

GrannyDee on September 2, 2011 at 2:38 PM

The White House is now walking back expectations for little Bammie’s speech, now saying that it will not be the entire plan, only some kind of outline, or talking points? WTH. Why does he bother?

This will be a campaign speech, and an attack on Republicans.

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Saw this coming. So when he “unveils his plan,” when he “shares his plan with the country,” when he “delivers a speech on his plan for the economy,” the plan he was working on while on Martha’s Vineyard, the plan he’s working on this weekend during another break from work, the plan he simply had to give to Congress during the Republican debate, it won’t actually be a … plan-plan? Sorry, Barry, you already called the tune, and it was “Build me up, Buttercup.” You’re in it deep now, fella. Waaay deep.

Rational Thought on September 2, 2011 at 2:40 PM

That picture alone has every particle of my American born, patriotic, king hating, DNA jumping with angst…!

Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Obama is like Lous XV and Michelle is like Madame de Pompadour.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Obama could be the new King of Cartoons! LOL

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

I don’t know why but that gave me a sudden, brief mental image of Former President Obama as a guest on Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

It gave me an inkling of hope for the future. I am sure Zorack and Moltar, at least, would be suitably deferential to a president of Obama’s stature.

Lily on September 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Obama was simply trying to grandstand.

“I is the president, so there”.

————

Tina, this is one of your best write-ups. Thanks.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Remember the Bush-Gore debate, when Gore tried to stand over Bush as he answered a question? Boehner has faced his Bush-Gore moment and passed. He wasn’t flashy, he wasn’t petulant – he acted like an adult correcting a pretend bully.

AubieJon on September 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM

..that was a singular moment. Remember that little over-the-shoulder double-take “W” did? Rendered the MasBearPig’s little gambit worthless. It was also a window into what a mental derelict Gore would become.

The War Planner on September 2, 2011 at 3:36 PM

The King is taking another Royal Vacation this weekend

faraway on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

..after ten days in Martha’s Vineyard, an almost two-hour shift at the FEMA/Hurricane Center/whatever headquarters, and fighting with Boehner, he throws in the towell for a 3-day weekend at Camp David.

Do you suppose he’ll be clearing out any brush?

The War Planner on September 2, 2011 at 3:44 PM

This could figure big in Obama’s plans…as presidential candidate John F. Kerry once famously mouthed, “Who among us does not love NASCAR?”

Five NASCAR drivers reject White House invite.

When you’ve lost the NASCAR-vote, might as well hang it up, right?

(I’d have said “boogitty, boogitty, boogitty” a la Darrell Waltrip, but that’d have been racist.)

coldwarrior on September 2, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Tina, Jazz Shaw this is one of your best write-ups. Thanks.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM

So sorry, Jazz Shaw. Great work!

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 4:47 PM

I’m also on the Speakers side and who is it that thinks the Speaker should resign? For what? How about the crimes by Congressman (tax evasion, distortion,) to name a few. It seems that when politicians lie it’s called politics when you or I lie it’s called purgery. Politicians are excused we are persecuted.

mixplix on September 2, 2011 at 5:36 PM

If we got rid of every politician in Washington who acted like a jerk the place would have a population roughly matching that of Chernobyl today.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

AZfederalist on September 2, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Three words: Checks and Balances.

Stephen Macklin on September 3, 2011 at 10:02 AM