IRS doles billions in tax credits to “undocumented workers”

posted at 11:25 am on September 2, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States (i.e. immigrants in the country illegally) last year collected $4.2 billion in tax refunds from the Internal Revenue Service, according to a new audit from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).

A little something called the Additional Child Tax Credit is to blame. The audit explains (emphasis mine):

Many individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States, and thus not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) for employment, earn income in the United States.  The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) provides such individuals with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) to facilitate their filing of tax returns.  Although the law prohibits aliens residing without authorization in the United States from receiving most Federal public benefits, an increasing number of these individuals are filing tax returns claiming the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC), a refundable tax credit intended for working families.  The payment of Federal funds through this tax benefit appears to provide an additional incentive for aliens to enter, reside, and work in the United States without authorization, which contradicts Federal law and policy to remove such incentives.

When the author of the audit states “an increasing number” of illegal immigrants are claiming the ACTC, he’s not kidding. Claims for the credit have increased five-fold, from $924 million in 2005 to $4.2 billion last year.

The IRS says it doesn’t have the authority to disallow the claims. Apparently, the law doesn’t explicitly forbid unauthorized workers from claiming the tax credit, so the IRS just has to dole it out. And recent changes to tax law have made the refund even easier to obtain. Federal Eye’s Lisa Rein:

Changes to tax law are partly to blame for the explosion in refunds for additional child tax credits in recent years, auditors found. Before 2001, filers needed to have three or more children to qualify — and to owe more Social Security taxes than earned income credits.

But those requirements have been eliminated and the allowable refund for each child doubled. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 also made the refund easier to get, auditors found.

The Treasury IG recommended the IRS work with the Treasury Department to clarify the law. TIGTA also recommended the IRS check the immigration status of filers with taxpayer identification numbers. IRS agreed to do the first, but stopped short of the second.

So, while it might be true illegal immigrants pay taxes, it’s also true they receive tax breaks that, by the admission of TIGTA, serve as added incentive to remain in the country illegally.


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This is absolutely shameful. I’m sure the child credits gain them tons of cash.

Unbelievable.

portlandon on September 2, 2011 at 11:30 AM

This is what “spending through the tax code” actually looks like.

“Tax credits” poll-tests much better than “welfare”, and the media helps out by calling them “tax cuts”. It’s the perfect liberal-orwellian scam.

forest on September 2, 2011 at 11:30 AM

Blood boiling.

SouthernGent on September 2, 2011 at 11:31 AM

This is news? The Child Tax Credit and Additional Child tax Credit have been available for ITIN filers for about a decade.

Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2011 at 11:31 AM

what would rick perry say?

sesquipedalian on September 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Porkulus is working as intended (no, that is not sarcasm).

Steve Eggleston on September 2, 2011 at 11:36 AM

And we are wondering why the irs is going broke so fast? This just makes me want to throw up what our stinken government is up to.
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letget on September 2, 2011 at 11:36 AM

Illegal aliens are robbing us blind, and have been for years. This is just another example, among many, of how they take advantage of U.S. taxpayers to the tune of many billions of dollars every year.

This must stop.

AZCoyote on September 2, 2011 at 11:39 AM

When the racial hatred and class warfare doesn’t work as well as it always has, buying votes always works. Those who receive benefits from the government will vote for those who pay them the most. Buying votes is a democratic tradition.

volsense on September 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM

When the author of the audit states “an increasing number” of illegal immigrants are claiming the ACTC, he’s not kidding. Claims for the credit have increased five-fold, from $924 million in 2005 to $4.2 billion last year.
The IRS says it doesn’t have the authority to disallow the claims. Apparently, the law doesn’t explicitly forbid unauthorized workers from claiming the tax credit, so the IRS just has to dole it out.

Look the Earn Income Tax Credit has been fought over and revised almost every year since the 90s. There is clear Congressional direction under the EITC that if you and your spouse do not have a valid SSN you cannot claim the EITC. Congress could have done the same thing for the CTC and the ACTC. Congress chose not to. This is not the IRS being stupid bureaucrats. This is a policy choice by Republicans and Democrats, Bush and Obama, to use the Tax Code to redistribute wealth and offset FICA taxes of illegal immigrants through the ACTC. If you oppose the policy, blame the politicians who made the law not the IRS for following it.

Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Why isn’t E-verify the standard in every state?

Why should they, the federal government doesn’t.

SS sends out big chunks to illegal aliens.

Speakup on September 2, 2011 at 11:43 AM

These “undocumented workers” are also encouraged to file ammended back tax returns to get the credit for previous years.

MississippiMom on September 2, 2011 at 11:45 AM

Although the law prohibits aliens residing without authorization in the United States from receiving most Federal public benefits, an increasing number of these individuals are filing tax returns claiming the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC), a refundable tax credit intended for working families. ”

Since when are illegals not receiving federal public benefits…..?

Are you kidding me ?
What exactly are these benefits they cannot have ?

NeoKong on September 2, 2011 at 11:45 AM

Katia is now a hurricane in the Atlantic. Can she take some of the blame for this economic mess. That earthquake in Japan is sick and tired of taking most of the blame for <0's woes.

ted c on September 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM

Is it just me, or should I expect someone smart enough to take advantage of the tax code to be able to figure out our immigration processes? I know the system creates an incentive to bypass the latter, but this situation eliminates any excuse that these illegals cannot go through the proper process.

TexAz on September 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM

Think I’ll drop an anvil on my foot to distract me from the pain in my head from banging it into the wall.

GrannyDee on September 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Do you really think that the children claimed as dependents actually exist?

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 12:01 PM

So, while it might be true illegal immigrants pay taxes, it’s also true they receive tax breaks that, by the admission of TIGTA, serve as added incentive to remain in the country illegally.

And to vote Democrat.

petefrt on September 2, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Another IG that needs to start watching his back.

Kissmygrits on September 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Unstinkingbelievable

cmsinaz on September 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Obama said he would redistribute the wealth.

tinkerthinker on September 2, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Remove the tax code as a tool to be used by politicians!!!!

Flat tax now!!!

ClanDerson on September 2, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Do you really think that the children claimed as dependents actually exist?

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Yes the children actually exist. There is no shortage of children among illegal immigrants. Most of the children are themselves citizens, though the parents are illegals.

Now among urban Americans actual tax fraud under the EITC is an epidemic. The EITC is a refundable credit, and it dwarfs the amounts paid out under the ACTC. You can claim neices, nephews and grandchildren as qualifying dependents under the EITC so children’s names and social security numbers are passed around the family to whomever had a part time job while the rest were too busy watching Jerry.

Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Is it just me, or should I expect someone smart enough to take advantage of the tax code to be able to figure out our immigration processes? I know the system creates an incentive to bypass the latter, but this situation eliminates any excuse that these illegals cannot go through the proper process.

TexAz on September 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM

Gaming the tax code is a real booming industry in Vegas. Everywhere one goes in the city that has a large population of Hispanics, there are small businesses that advertise income tax help for Spanish speakers.

I would love to know what percentage of the tax “credits” that these business finagle for their customers they keep for themselves.

Jvette on September 2, 2011 at 12:15 PM

I’m withholding my payments to the IRS until they fix this.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Uh who is giving illegal aliens SSN/Tax ID numbers, to file for a tax return in the first place?. There is no legal way for a person in this country illegally to have a SSN or Tax Id number. Are these people who over stayed their work visas so they originally had a legal Tax Id? If they never had a visa who is giving them fraudulent SSN and Tax Ids, and why would the IRS not flag them?

Dr Evil on September 2, 2011 at 12:19 PM

What is it? Like $1500 a kid? Imagine! I’m not sure the amount, so let’s say $500. Low ball this. If any of these people have 5 kids, that’s 2500. If it’s $1500 , that’s $7500.

Imagine if they don’t REALLY have kids, and say they do. They are raping, and robbing us blind.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Many individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States, and thus not eligible to obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) for employment, earn income in the United States. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) provides such individuals with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) to facilitate their filing of tax returns

How is that legal to give a tax identification number to a person a foreigner illegally- non legal ciizen, in our country?

Dr Evil on September 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM

I’m not feeling the outrage. They work, pay taxes, and get a small family tax break if they file. There’s nothing insidious here.

mythicknight on September 2, 2011 at 12:24 PM

I’m not feeling the outrage. They work, pay taxes, and get a small family tax break if they file. There’s nothing insidious here.

mythicknight on September 2, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Do you know anything about the EITC? If a household has qualifying children, they usually end up with no federal tax liability which means they get back everything they pay into the system and then get an additional “refund” for each of their qualifying children.

They “get back” money they never paid.

Jvette on September 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Why isn’t E-verify the standard in every state?

Why should they, the federal government doesn’t.

SS sends out big chunks to illegal aliens.

Speakup on September 2, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Because some people, like Rick Perry, don’t like E-verify.

TxAnn56 on September 2, 2011 at 12:32 PM

They may go through the attemmpt to file taxes when they send in a form, but they receive all of that money back plus a little extra.

xler8bmw on September 2, 2011 at 12:37 PM

How is that legal to give a tax identification number to a person a foreigner illegally- non legal ciizen, in our country?

Dr Evil on September 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM

ITINs have been around for 15 years. Ostensibly they were for spouses and dependents of US citizens and resident aliens who could not get a SSN so they could be claimed as dependents on US tax returns. Really this was done with a wink and a nod, by both political parties, to allow illegals to file income tax returns. Regulations forbid the IRS from sharing information about ITINS with ICE. You can read all about them here.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1915.pdf

Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2011 at 12:40 PM

I’m not feeling the outrage.

mythicknight on September 2, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Not paying federal taxes, eh?

Fallon on September 2, 2011 at 12:41 PM

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 12:21 PM

The Additional Child Tax Credit is limited to the amount paid into Social Security and Medicare through FICA withholding (box 4 and box 6 of the employee’s W-2) it is a refund of payroll taxes through the income tax.

Jvette on September 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM

This is the Additional Child Tax Credit, not the Earned Income Tax Credit. You cannot claim the Earned Income Tax Credit with an ITIN, though as I said before, the EITC is rife with fraud by actual Americans who claim neices and nephews as dependents when they see them a few times a year just because the baby momma who has the kids hasn’t worked and can’t claim the credit.

Sorry for posting so often on this thread.

Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM

I stand corrected, and thank you for the information.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 12:55 PM

what would rick perry say?

sesquipedalian on September 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM

This is what he said yesterday. Listen carefully and expand your tiny brain.

If Texans object, they can vote him out.

The topic is a federal gov’t one. If the voters object to Perry or anyone in the R group, they won’t vote them in.

This is about the current administration and the past ones, from the left to the right. All are beholden and crooks, and s/b investigated and thrown in prison.

You know who’d go first, and who would have to follow.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Jerry Brown is about to sign a CA ‘dream’ act, at the tune of 40 million a year, studies for illegals, from Central/South America, and the world, really, when CA is 15 billion in debt. Lynch the politicians and put the pitchforks on them, from the left to the right.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 12:56 PM

The middle class working people, mainly the Rs, are being punished beyond belief, by politicians from both sides of the isle.

Throw the entire congress out in 2012.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 12:58 PM

So we’ll agree to close loopholes to hardworking, poor immigrant families if you agree to close loopholes to rich corporations. Deal?

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Throw them all out.

texanpride on September 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM

This is what “spending through the tax code” actually looks like.
“Tax credits” poll-tests much better than “welfare”, and the media helps out by calling them “tax cuts”. It’s the perfect liberal-orwellian scam.
forest on September 2, 2011 at 11:30 AM

This.

Count to 10 on September 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2011 at 12:45 PM

I, too, stand corrected.

Jvette on September 2, 2011 at 1:04 PM

So we’ll agree to close loopholes to hardworking, poor immigrant families if you agree to close loopholes to rich corporations. Deal?

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Deal. Don’t forget that Obama is financed primarily by the latter, no kidding, and the very banks he’s about to sue in the next few days, over….wait….the mortgage fiasco…which was supported by the left and the right, for years.

All politicians to jail, now.

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM

This poor sick Republic is not only broke . . . it’s hopelessly stupid.

rplat on September 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM

We agree, for once. Not that I oppose suing the banks for the mortgage fiasco, but you’re right: Obama and the Democratic establishment is as guilty as anyone else, and should be dealt with accordingly.

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 1:07 PM

So we’ll agree to close loopholes to hardworking, poor immigrant families if you agree to close loopholes to rich corporations. Deal?

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 12:59 PM

The issue is not who’s “rich” or not rich; the issue is who is legally a U.S. citizen and who is authorized by law to work and function within the borders of this sovereign nation. Why is it you liberals believe you have a right to other people’s money simply because they are successful?

rplat on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

rplat on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

translation: Blah blah blah poor immigrant families deserve no help from the apparatus of the state blah blah corporations deserve to keep every penny they earn blah blah liberty blah blah sovereignty blah blah I owe nothing to society blah blah tea party

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM

The issue is not who’s “rich” or not rich; the issue is who is legally a U.S. citizen and who is authorized by law to work and function within the borders of this sovereign nation. Why is it you liberals believe you have a right to other people’s money simply because they are successful?

rplat on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Can I add: Why is it you liberals believe that just because someone is poor that they have a different set of standards and laws?

Being a liberal means never following the law and having a right to someone else’s money.

You know, they could always apply through LEGAL channels to become landed immigrants/citizens and then WORK hard to make their own money.

I should get a patent on the above idea because it seems to be a new one. You saw it here first, folks!

kim roy on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

rplat on September 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM

translation: Blah blah blah poor immigrant families deserve no help from the apparatus of the state blah blah corporations deserve to keep every penny they earn blah blah liberty blah blah sovereignty blah blah I owe nothing to society blah blah tea party

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Let me burn down that strawman for you. No one has issue with poor immigrant families getting assistance. People have issues with ********ILLEGAL******** immigrants getting assistance.

I know it’s hard and you might need to read the above a couple or maybe even a dozen times. Maybe someone can help you.

kim roy on September 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM

kim roy on September 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM

The distinction between legal and illegal is less relevant, in my view, to the distinction between struggling and cash-rich. You hold tightly to the former distinction for whatever reason, and I don’t begrudge you that, but I simply don’t hold the same view. Call it being a liberal, call it being a socialist, call it being a transnationalist, call it whatever you want: I care less for immigration laws than I do for large conglomerates shirking their responsibility to society.

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 1:28 PM

kim roy on September 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM

By the way, you can’t receive this tax credit unless you’re paying payroll taxes to begin with. Everyone receiving this credit is working, and hard.

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Rush just said today that this is a distraction to force repubs to focus on illegal immigration. He said NOT to pay attention – this will be dealt with by the next president – Republican. Admin is pointing to the shiny thing over there to distract from the economy.

NJ Red on September 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM

…but the benefits of mulch-culturalism are worth it.
/s

Alden Pyle on September 2, 2011 at 1:38 PM

No to illegals and no to anchor babies. What’s so damn hard about that?

Not Perry 2012

RDE2010 on September 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM

So we’ll agree to close loopholes to hardworking, poor immigrant families if you agree to close loopholes to rich corporations. Deal?

ernesto

Without a doubt, you are one of the biggest morons here. And you prove it more and more with every single post you make.

xblade on September 2, 2011 at 2:04 PM

If we can find a Republican candidate who isn’t demonstrably a nut or a liberal, they might run with three promises only and win 70% of the vote:

1. I will sign the bill Ileana Ros-Lehtinen has authored, which will end U.S. funding of the UN Human Rights Council, and all other UN programs which run counter to American interests;

2. On Day One I will fire the head of the IRS; then I will issue an Executive Order to immediately end all IRS payments to illegal aliens, in accordance with current U.S. law; then I will sign a bill from congress which creates a simplified Federal tax system (including tax breaks for partisan organizations of every type) and abolishes the IRS;

3. I will sign the bills from Congress which repeal ObamaCare and every other new, anti-business regulation passed by the Obama administration.

Why don’t we have that candidate? Is that so difficult?

Jaibones on September 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM

No to illegals and no to anchor babies. What’s so damn hard about that?

Not Perry 2012

RDE2010 on September 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Bing. I have no ill will toward the so-called “anchor babies” and those who were dragged here by their parents when they were children, but I want their parents either deported or permanently denied citizenship. Anchor, my a$$.

Jaibones on September 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

And end the anchor baby (false) interpretation of the constitution. You have your baby here while on a temporary Visa…the baby is a citizen of the country where you are a citizen.

Not here.

Jaibones on September 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM

So we’ll agree to close loopholes to hardworking, poor immigrant families if you agree to close loopholes to rich corporations. Deal?

Why on earth do you still believe in the “evil corporation” thing? Go make Warren Pay his taxes but quit worrying about the entities that actually hire POOR HARDWORKING AMERICAN’s”. Why do you war with other Americans? Why do you hate them? Why do you want to tax them more? you can tax them 100%, which is what you want, but it won’t solve our problem. Our problem is our government we need to get back under control. Those idiots are our servants, not our slave-masters, but they have forgotten that.

Again, buddy, the issue is out of control, too-large, Government. That is the source of evil, and their stooges like you that believe in the “evil business owners” meme.

And no, it will never, ever ,ever be on my plate to give a break to illegal criminals that are leeching off the poor American Tax Payer that democrat stooges like you hate.

Noelie on September 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Muchas gracias, pendejos!

Ward Cleaver on September 2, 2011 at 2:31 PM

“rich corporations”

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Tool. Are you still in high school, or working at Burger King already?

Jaibones on September 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Makes me sick to know that our hard earned money goes to people who completely disregard our laws and think they are entitled to even more benefits than they already receive (I blame the gov. just as much as the illegal aliens).

Callie C. on September 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM

If you pay too much in your income taxes, the IRS sends you a refund. Since illegal immigrants are not allowed to work in the US, if they do work and pay taxes, those taxes are obviously more than they should have paid. It’s only right that those taxes be refunded to them. The allowance shouldn’t be paid, but their taxes should be refunded.

Or confiscated in a criminal proceeding. Your choice, Holder.

ss396 on September 2, 2011 at 2:40 PM

So we’ll agree to close loopholes to hardworking, poor immigrant families if you agree to close loopholes to rich corporations. Deal?

Gosh, I didn’t see illegal in there, before immigrant.

Of course, you do realize that a rich corporation, as you call it, is a large collection of shareholders and stakeholders?

I know you think it’s a couple of rich, white guys who sit around some private club lighting their cigars with $100 bills.

Perhaps if we took more money from corporations we can funnel it to super-duper green companies like Solyndra. That will sure do wonders for the economy (of the DNC re-election coffers).

SoS.

reaganaut on September 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM

This was no accident. Most corrupt regime in history. Like most citizens I could tell you blood cudling stories of how the IRS has screwed over me if only my name had been Santos or Jose.

SANTA on September 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM

So we’ll agree to close loopholes to hardworking, poor immigrant families if you agree to close loopholes to rich corporations. Deal?

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Oh ernie…

While trying to reason with a liberal is kind of like trying to negotiate with a terrorist, I have nothing better to do right now than deconstruct your absurd offer.

First and foremost, we are talking about illegal immigrants. You know. Those who have zero right to be here. Those guys. This is an important distinction. OK, it probably isn’t to you since, as an admirer of Che (judging by your screen name), you probably believe the only reason Americans have historically done well is because they have cheated and stolen from the brown people and their ill-begotten wealth rightfully belongs to the same. Do you actually know anything about the Che-ster?

Second, since almost all businesses pass their corporate taxes on to consumers through higher prices, those poor hardworking immigrants would have to pay a disproportionate invisible tax rate if we were to eliminate loopholes for corporations. Now that wouldn’t be nice, would it? How about we eliminate corporate taxes and stop penalizing success?

Third, you make the unsubstantiated claim that all illegal immigrants are hardworking. Sorry ernie. It simply isn’t true. Some surely are. Many surely are not. Perhaps those benefiting from this handout are, but you have no proof.

Fourth and finally, the tax code is no longer about raising revenue to run the government and has not been for a very long time. It is a patronage system for rewarding friends, voters, and preferred groups and punishing enemies. Social engineering at its finest. Both parties are guilty of manipulating the system to their own ends. What this particular program amounts to is theft from those who pay taxes. Tyranny. This is simply another example of tyranny by our government.

stvnscott on September 2, 2011 at 3:04 PM

The distinction between legal and illegal is less relevant, in my view, to the distinction between struggling and cash-rich. You hold tightly to the former distinction for whatever reason, and I don’t begrudge you that, but I simply don’t hold the same view. Call it being a liberal, call it being a socialist, call it being a transnationalist, call it whatever you want: I care less for immigration laws than I do for large conglomerates shirking their responsibility to society.

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 1:28 PM

So breaking the law is irrelevant provided it serves some subjective higher cause? Ooooooookay.

What if I think my neighbor is a PITA because he keeps us all awake at night with loud music and parties. If I murder him then I should get off because subjectively I’ve improved the collective neighborhood.

Works for me!

By the way, you can’t receive this tax credit unless you’re paying payroll taxes to begin with. Everyone receiving this credit is working, and hard.

ernesto on September 2, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Then I guess crime doesn’t pay, at least in this case. Somehow it doesn’t bother me in this respect.

Having said that, I’m sure they’re getting their “fair share” when it comes to government services, education, healthcare (hospitals), using the roadways, police and fire if it comes to that, etc, etc, etc.

kim roy on September 2, 2011 at 3:20 PM

We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it redux.

Buy Danish on September 2, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Jaibones on September 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

No, I’m not going to blame a child for the stupid decisions of the parent, but they have no more right to be here than the parent. Let me tell you what made me mad:

Waiting behind a school bus to load (not kidding) almost thirty children from a trailer park community and they were all hispanic. Call it what you want, but I know they were hispanic and I am willing to bet they aren’t supposed to be here. This was right next to a strip mall with mostly hispanic businesses. Your tax dollars.

RDE2010 on September 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM

“So, while it might be true illegal immigrants pay taxes….”

WTF?

Where are the 1040s?

Danny on September 3, 2011 at 11:06 PM

i’m trying to figure out why exactly any of this is supposed to make anyone’s blood boil.

- undocumented workers earn their money through work.

- income and sosoc taxes are withheld from their paychecks.

this would ordinarily be considered “statist” “theft” by members of the “Taxed Enough Already” party. but there seems to be an exception for undocumented immigrants. the government should be permitted to confiscate their wages because they’re undocumented.

what’s wrong with them being undocumented? well, supposedly they take advantage of public benefits they’re not entitled to. however, to the extent that an individual is entitled to enjoy what they pay for, undocumented immigrants are entitled to public benefits … because they pay for them with income tax (undocumented immigrants get nothing in return for the $4bil/yr they pay into sosoc).

so they pay taxes, and file returns. the horror. it could hardly be the sort of thing to make a sane person’s “blood boil”.

eh on September 4, 2011 at 2:07 AM

Let me tell you what made me mad:

Waiting behind a school bus to load (not kidding) almost thirty children from a trailer park community and they were all hispanic. Call it what you want, but I know they were hispanic and I am willing to bet they aren’t supposed to be here. This was right next to a strip mall with mostly hispanic businesses. Your tax dollars.

RDE2010 on September 2, 2011 at 4:55 PM

i can’t begin to pick apart the cognitive failure of noting that a hispanic community is served/supported by a strip mall full of private businesses and nonetheless concluding that they are supported by “your tax dollars”.

as to the “call it what you want” comment, there isn’t really a wide range of appropriate adjectives to describe your perverse reaction to seeing non-wasp children going to school, and you appear to know it. what you don’t apparently know, and what i’m going to help you with by telling you straight out, is that it’s not okay.

i’ll be looking for your comments under the next item about conservatives being called racist “unfairly”.

eh on September 4, 2011 at 2:23 AM