Hot Air Candidate Survey: September Results

posted at 8:45 am on September 2, 2011 by Patrick Ishmael

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Hispanic-American here. No, we don’t all support amnesty and open borders. Some of us have ancestors who worked very hard to come here the RIGHT way and expect other people to do the same. Rick Perry is not a conservative. He might be pro-life, anti-gay, or whatever being conservative has devolved into. But a person cannot be pro amnesty and lax on border security and still bear the label “conservative” when one takes into account the high cost of undocumented residents and the risks associated with what amounts to an open border.

athenanyc on September 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Multiculturalism is a death blow to any nation.

darwin on September 2, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Exactly, just as “political correctness” ends free speech by making it improper to discuss many things that are not hateful, damaging, or even truly disrepectful…

We used be “the melting pot”… but not any more.

OnlyOrange on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Yeah, a law like that is going to go over really big in a state like Texas where almost half of the population has brown skin.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM

??? So what are you saying, Americans of hispanic descent all favor illegal immigration?

darwin on September 2, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Nope, but there a lot of citizens who wouldn’t want to see their parents deported. The law would have to be enforced equally. I wouldn’t want to be asked about my immigration status every time I happened to come across a law enforcement officer. A law enforcement officer would hate to have to ask everybody they stopped about their immigration status and would be infuriated if some one refused.

The only way to get this done is through self deportation and the will of everybody. From the big employers down to the guy wanting some help with his yard.

From what I’ve seen, its the little guys who are the biggest problem, hiring some day labor from the local Home Depot.

Before somebody goes ah-ha! E-verify. It hasn’t worked very well in the past and the kinks are still being worked out. So, there was a reason to not want to jump on the bandwagon right away.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

When your current meme is debunked you go straight to another:

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM

No. The problem is, you seem to get distracted by shiny things (probably squirrels too). This isn’t an abstract discussion on certain aspects on illegal immigration. It’s a discussion to better understand the roles of the state and feds in enforcing immigration law to see if Perry’s actions match his rhetoric (that’s called vetting, not an attack, as you will claim). There are some things that I’ve come to Perry’s side on – realizing in some areas he’s had his hands tied, so he looks better to me (I must be bad at attacking the guy…oh wait…I’m not). And you know what? Now I will better be able to defend his position, and will even call out others who misrepresent things about him – WHICH I’VE DONE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE IN REFERENCE TO THE BORDER FENCE.

I’m leaving you with this. You’re an idiot who sees an enemy where one is not. You are obviously insecure about your candidate so attack the very people who are on your team but not at the same devotion level as you. Am I Palin supporter? Absolutely. Because I know who she is because I asked lots of very similar questions about her. Could I become a Perry supporter with her in the race? Unlikely, but possible. If he wins the nomination, will it be helpful if I can defend YOUR guy with all this information I’m collecting? Yes – and I will despite having @ssholes like you supporting him. I don’t base my support of a candidate on the decency of their supporters. Will you see me sometimes pointing out areas where I see Palin as a better candidate than Palin? Yup – I have reasons why I support her, I think they are valid and I’m willing to state them and let others decide if they agree or not.

So if you try to call me out again on nonsense, after i’ve shown you both in words and actions that I’m actually trying to learn about Perry, I may call you out as a j@ckass yet again. But don’t expect much else as response from me because you’re too much like a little kid who gets his feewings huwt when someone doesn’t lick Perry’s boots.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Magellan Strategies poll: Nevada

1. Rick Perry 29%

2. Mitt Romney 24%

3. Herman Cain 7%

4. Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul 6%

6. Newt Gingrich 5%

7. Rick Santorum and Jon Huntsman 1%

windansea on September 2, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Happy with this poll. Both Palin and Perry are candidates I would be happy to see win the GOP nomination. I personally prefer Palin, but Perry is my second choice.

The main takeaway for me is that Perry & Palin combined has over 80% of the HotAir vote. Add Bachmann and Cain, and you are pushing 90%.

Meanwhile, RINOS like Romney, Huntsman and Gingrich get a combined total of a pathetic 7%….Priceless, LOL

Norwegian on September 2, 2011 at 3:52 PM

I wouldn’t want to be asked about my immigration status every time I happened to come across a law enforcement officer. A law enforcement officer would hate to have to ask everybody they stopped about their immigration status and would be infuriated if some one refused.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Sorry, had to respond to this because it’s nonsense. I don’t want to show proof of insurance every time I get stopped – and my license, but you know what, I have to.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 3:53 PM

So if you try to call me out again on nonsense, after i’ve shown you both in words and actions that I’m actually trying to learn about Perry, I may call you out as a j@ckass yet again. But don’t expect much else as response from me because you’re too much like a little kid who gets his feewings huwt when someone doesn’t lick Perry’s boots.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

You haven’t shown jack. And I don’t care what you think of Perry.
Hell, I haven’t voted for the man, in the Primary since, 02′. You misrepresent attacks on our state, and our governor, all in the name questions. A lot of the things you don’t like about the guy, a vast majority of Texans do. Even while we despise him for other things.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 3:59 PM

windansea on September 2, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Interesting poll..I would think that Romney would win Nevada..:)

Dire Straits on September 2, 2011 at 3:59 PM

We used be “the melting pot”… but not any more.

OnlyOrange on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Heard it best explained once like this – because people get the ‘melting pot’ analogy wrong all the time.

A melting pot is different than a tossed salad. In a melting pot, all the different things come together and become one and the same – each adding something to make the final product better. In a tossed salad, though everything is together, they still retain their individual qualities. All these hyphenated Americans (Mexican-American, African-American, Chinese-American) points towards the tossed salad, so anyone who uses the ‘melting pot’ argument with that is dead wrong. When all these same people are asked and their answer is “I’m an American”, that’s the melting pot.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 3:59 PM

You misrepresent attacks on our state, and our governor, all in the name questions. A lot of the things you don’t like about the guy, a vast majority of Texans do. Even while we despise him for other things.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 3:59 PM

So your big problem with me is that I don’t think like a Texan? Wow. Don’t join the Perry campaign, because there are a lot of votes he’ll need from non-Texans. And I’ll be quite surprised if you find any place where I have willfully misrepresented Perry or Texas under the guise of a question. You’re just a thin-skinned tantrum thrower. I’ve seen you blow up at plenty of people who weren’t attacking Perry. Even your somewhat informative answers are snippy and you just beating your chest.

I’ve had many years of using the Thomistic philosophical inquiry method to get to the gist of a matter. It involves asking a series of questions to get to the gist of a subject. Just because you are more akin to bar brawls and pissing contests, don’t accuse everyone else of the same.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Sorry, had to respond to this because it’s nonsense. I don’t want to show proof of insurance every time I get stopped – and my license, but you know what, I have to.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Only a moron, or sheep, would think that they had to.
There is no legal requirement for you to show identification, ever. You don’t even have to show ID if you get pulled over. You may not get to go to the airport, or get a library card. And you may get extra tickets when you do get pulled over. But there is nothing in law that states anyone must have ID.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM

I’ve had many years of using the Thomistic philosophical inquiry method to get to the gist of a matter.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Ah, now I see your problem, I will try to write slower in the future, just for you.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Are you jokers still here? Jesus Christ there’s a trove of good stuff today.

One little girl from Alaska and her name is now household. Like Mario Andretti, Houdini and Walter Kronkite.

Lanceman on September 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM

The only way to get this done is through self deportation and the will of everybody. From the big employers down to the guy wanting some help with his yard.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

The way to get it done is to make hiring illegals so costly that no one will do it. Make the penalties, to include jail time, so steep that the cost benefit disappears. In addition, stop providing government benefits and many will leave.

No work, no benefits, no reason to stay.

darwin on September 2, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Oh dear God.

Different cultures SUBTRACT from America as a whole if these cultures do not embrace American culture. People may have a different heritage, but unless we all share the same culture we’re doomed.

That’s the problem with the vast majority of illegals … they do not make any effort to learn english, our traditions or our heritage. They’re simply Mexicans living north of the border.

Multiculturalism is a death blow to any nation.

darwin on September 2, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Oh dear God…you are adding words to my post.
That is why discussing these things with people like you are a waste of time…you add words I never stated.
Do you think when I mention the Irish, Italians, Asians, I am talking about the ones who did not assimilate?
And the key word you used is “share”, yes we are stronger because we share.
They come to “share” the vision of America, which is freedom, few come to “subtract”, and their cultures add to ours, which is a conglomeration, and is always and hopefully forever changing.

That’s the problem with the vast majority of illegals … they do not make any effort to learn english, our traditions or our heritage. They’re simply Mexicans living north of the border.

Fewer posts show the such simplicity and ignorance. Who dominates the scholars at the high school level? Asians, you don’t think they don’t make an effort to learn English or our traditions…who is the fastest growing middle class in America? The Hispanics, how did they move into the middle class without learning English?
My kids were raised in a city that was 75% hispanic, guess what? The second and third generation were the “losers”, the first generation, top of the class. Once bi-lingual education was removed the kids test scores soared. And I never met one parent, of the hundreds, that didn’t want their child to be an American, and speak English.
I feel sorry for you, for how narrow minded and bigoted you are…I can’t believe you stated this, and I quote you again it is so bizarre and, well just plain ignorant.

That’s the problem with the vast majority of illegals … they do not make any effort to learn english, our traditions or our heritage. They’re simply Mexicans living north of the border.

No wonder you have no,absolutely no understanding of immigration, you only cough up ridiculous talking points from who knows where?
Good grief, I am embarrassed even to respond to such a foolish post…unbelievable, un-F’in believable.
Do you know what the education level of the vast majority of Irish and Italians were?
Good grief, has our school system ever fail…look at you, shame on you and your lack of understanding history…such a shame.

right2bright on September 2, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Is gryphon done with his/her Lourdes impersonation yet?

Al in St. Lou on September 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM

No work, no benefits, no reason to stay.

darwin on September 2, 2011 at 4:34 PM

I’m right there with you.

But that means national ID card. Probably biometric. And penalties for not showing it.

That’s going to PO the ACLU types, the libertarians, the dems (constituency and meal ticket), the reps (workers) and every guy that wants some help working on his house. The newsies will have video of families being torn apart and livelihoods lost.

Who all is ready for that?

Bachman? Cain? Palin? I don’t think so. Certainly none of the others in the race. It will take a Tancredo and he would be toxic after a half term.

cozmo on September 2, 2011 at 5:08 PM

right2bright on September 2, 2011 at 4:57 PM

You’re just a fool who now crows about the value of multiculturalism and “diversity” just because a particular candidate has some real problems when it comes to immigration.

Next time try to reply without showing everyone how foolish, hate filled and undisciplined you are.

darwin on September 2, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I haven’t read through the thread, and probably won’t, but I can imagine: this Hot Air poll has sudden;y been given a whole lot of legitimacy by Perry fans that it didn’t have before.

ddrintn on September 2, 2011 at 6:16 PM

I haven’t read through the thread, and probably won’t, but I can imagine: this Hot Air poll has sudden;y been given a whole lot of legitimacy by Perry fans that it didn’t have before.

ddrintn on September 2, 2011 at 6:16 PM

By the ABPer’s…I’m sure that standards will be double, as usual…

Congrats to Perry on his first win…

Gohawgs on September 2, 2011 at 9:11 PM

NickDeringer on September 2, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Posting anything close to resembling something Biblical makes you a cultist. Posting an actual Bible verse, even w/o connecting it to any one person, makes you a cult all to yourself…Or so I’ve read…

Gohawgs on September 2, 2011 at 9:13 PM

who was Juan McShamnesty’s VP again?

Branch Rickey on September 2, 2011 at 9:19 PM

And that’s my point. Since Perry made a logistics argument involving Texas only, never came out against it for Arizona (or any other state if they wish to adopt it), and didn’t have any negative prinipled reaction it would take far too many assumptions to conclude he opposes it on principle.

anuts on September 2, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Rick Perry is a politician. It will take a lot more than speeches to convince me that he is principled. Much of the support for Perry seems to come in the form of “Rick Perry said…” or “Rick Perry didn’t…” instead of “Rick Perry did [insert accomplishment here].” Not quite as awe-inspiring to me as it is to some of the Texan sack lickers. But whatevs.

gryphon202 on September 2, 2011 at 11:37 PM

who was Juan McShamnesty’s VP again?

Branch Rickey on September 2, 2011 at 9:19 PM

He didn’t have a VP, cause he ran a shitty unprincipled campaign and lost. Now ask me who his running mate was.

gryphon202 on September 2, 2011 at 11:38 PM

Great. Now I’ve got the Texan sack lickers trying to convince me that Perry didn’t act on AZSB1080 on principle at all. And this is supposed to convince me that he’s presidential timber? Nice try, guys.

gryphon202 on September 2, 2011 at 11:40 PM

I rest my case.
It’s a recurring theme with this clown.

Lanceman on September 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Awwwww..wadda madder wittle baby? Can’t you find your bwankie?

ROTFLMMFAO!!!!

csdeven on September 3, 2011 at 12:40 AM

But don’t expect much else as response from me because you’re too much like a little kid who gets his feewings huwt when someone doesn’t lick Perry’s boots.

miConsevative on September 2, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! Which is exactly what you Palin lunatics do!

The idiocy coming from you dolts is priceless!!

csdeven on September 3, 2011 at 12:43 AM

Rubio would make a good VP. Alas, that seems to be a dead-end job. He has many good years ahead of him in Congress where he will do some real good.

Cain, on the other hand, might lend the slate some additional character that would benefit it. He’s not Congressional material by
temperament. Hit as VP or emergency POTUS, he’d probably be quite competent. He’d overall strengthen the team (Congress and POTUS) rather than open a future weakness.

{^_^}

herself on September 3, 2011 at 4:30 AM

Hey, I’m not surprised at all. Palin has stayed out of the race while Perry has got in the race.

So Palin has payed a price in activist support. It has gone to Perry. If Palin doesn’t want to see her support erode further, she will get in. And soon.

Palin has dominated these proceedings up to now, but that time is coming to a close.

victor82 on September 3, 2011 at 9:33 AM

As more people vote will we get an updated set of graphics?

Twenty Four Hours is NOT LONG ENOUGH if you want to give folks a fair chance to vote. You see, some of us have lives. ;o)

DannoJyd on September 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM

NickDeringer on September 2, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Cultist?

steebo77 on September 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM

NickDeringer isn’t but you certainly are.

Lourdes on September 3, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Hey, I’m not surprised at all. Palin has stayed out of the race while Perry has got in the race.

So Palin has payed a price in activist support. It has gone to Perry. If Palin doesn’t want to see her support erode further, she will get in. And soon.

Palin has dominated these proceedings up to now, but that time is coming to a close.

victor82 on September 3, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Put these polls in proper perspective. They’re “closed society” results, not from Hot Air users but from among websites relative to Palin.

The users here who promote her harass everyone else and most sensible people have better and more decent things to do with their time than loiter in that bog of harassment. So the polls reflect a concerted effort to promote a personality who isn’t even a candidate and to harass (discourage) anyone who isn’t among their kind.

The enthusiasm for and about Palin among the GENERAL VOTING PUBLIC

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Hey, I’m not surprised at all. Palin has stayed out of the race while Perry has got in the race.

So Palin has payed a price in activist support. It has gone to Perry. If Palin doesn’t want to see her support erode further, she will get in. And soon.

Palin has dominated these proceedings up to now, but that time is coming to a close.

victor82 on September 3, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Put these polls in proper perspective. They’re “closed society” results, not from Hot Air users but from among websites relative to Palin.

The users here who promote her harass everyone else and most sensible people have better and more decent things to do with their time than loiter in that bog of harassment. So the polls reflect a concerted effort to promote a personality who isn’t even a candidate and to harass (discourage) anyone who isn’t among their kind.

The enthusiasm for and about Palin among the GENERAL VOTING PUBLIC

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM

…not finished above, posted prematurely…

Anyway, the enthusiasm for and about Palin among the GENERAL VOTING PUBLIC is mostly as to a public figure, a celebrity, but not as to the Presidency.

People in general “enjoy” her “appearances” as a novelty, just as they would and do Miley Cyrus and Justin Beaver and such (perhaps not quite in those fan numbers, however, but the same nature as to crowd enthusiasm — it’s about celebrity, entertainment).

But people in general among the voting public don’t necessarily support Palin for the Presidency any more than they do Justin Beaver or Miley Cyrus (or George Clooney and I bet he gets more crowd-enthusiasm than does Palin but it’s the same principle I’m referring to).

The Palin-websites and email-gossip-exchangers are responsible for attempting to maintain if not create a false-presence among candidates as to Palin. Take a look at the user IDs on this site alone who continue to push her name: they’re the same, recurring IDs.

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:05 AM

Rick Perry is a politician…Not quite as awe-inspiring to me as it is to some of the Texan sack lickers. But whatevs.

gryphon202 on September 2, 2011 at 11:37 PM

I think that statement there ^^ should be named the Classic Palin Sickness Comment of the Year.

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Where’s the State by State Breakdown?

kregg on September 4, 2011 at 7:02 AM

Lourdes on September 3, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:05 AM

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Lourdes wuz heer.

steebo77 on September 5, 2011 at 10:00 AM

The users here who promote her harass everyone else and most sensible people have better and more decent things to do with their time than loiter in that bog of harassment.

Lourdes on September 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM

When it looks like a troll and acts like a troll …

I continue to support a Sarah Palin candidacy. When did I EVER harass YOU, eh?

BTW, this is not a harassment. This is I, the AWE inspiring Danno Man, calling you out for your slanderous post here. ;o)

DannoJyd on September 6, 2011 at 2:28 AM

Hahaha.. you people want a guy who campaigned for AL GORE to be the Republican candidate? That’s just too damn funny.

popularpeoplesfront on September 6, 2011 at 10:58 AM

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