Fast and Furious e-mails reached at least three White House officials

posted at 2:05 pm on September 2, 2011 by Tina Korbe

New e-mails obtained yesterday by The Los Angeles Times show at least three national security officials received information about Operation Fast and Furious. An anonymous administration official says these e-mails don’t prove anyone in the White House knew about the covert “investigative tactics” used in the program — but they do show William Newell, then the ATF field supervisor for Arizona and New Mexico, was in close contact with Kevin O’Reilly, director of North American affairs for the White House national security staff, between July 2010 and February of this year.

In fact, Newell sought the White House’s help to persuade the Mexican government to let ATF agents recover U.S. guns across the border, and O’Reilly on several occasions sounded out Newell to see how efforts to combat gun trafficking in Arizona were going. In response to O’Reilly’s requests, Newell praised ATF agents’ work on “firearms trafficking investigations with direct links to Mexican” cartels.

O’Reilly forwarded the information Newell provided to two other officials – Dan Restrepo, the president’s senior Latin American advisor, and Greg Gatjanis, a White House national security official. But O’Reilly reassured Newell the information “would not leave NSS.” Newell answered, “Sure, just don’t want ATF HQ to find out, especially since this is what they should be doing (briefing you)!”

Evidence of another kind of cover-up in the scandal has surfaced, too. Late last night, Sen. Chuck Grassley’s office revealed 21 Fast and Furious guns have been found at violent crime scenes in Mexico. Previously, we knew 11 guns had been found at violent crime scenes in the U.S., but ATF now says that number was inflated. The downward revision on the number of recoveries in the U.S. is scarcely comforting in light of the larger number of recoveries in Mexico, though.

As Grassley put it in a statement yesterday, “The Justice Department has been less than forthcoming since day one, so the revisions here are hardly surprising, and the numbers will likely rise until the more than 1,000 guns that were allowed to fall into the hands of bad guys are recovered — most likely years down the road. … What we’re still waiting for are the answers to the other questions the Attorney General failed to answer per our agreement. The cooperation of the Attorney General and his staff is needed if we’re ever going to get to the bottom of this disastrous policy and help the ATF and the department move forward.”

Yep. Still waiting … and now we’re waiting for a more satisfactory answer of the significance of the White House e-mails, too.


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Holder to jail!

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Gun-gate!

Rational Thought on September 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Obama

Giving guns to Mexico – Fast and furious

Giving jobs to the American People – Slow and inept

William Amos on September 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM

This thing is unraveling on zero. This will probably accelerate between now and next week. The rats will see the ship is going down and seek lifeboats…

dogsoldier on September 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM

All I expect ask is that they get the same scrutiny Scooter Libby got.

NeoKong on September 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Watergate was a two-bit burglary during a landslide election year.

Holdergate has the blood of dead victims known and countless unknown on sleazy Eric Holder and his cronies’ hands.

viking01 on September 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

The cooperation of the Attorney General and his staff is needed if we’re ever going to get to the bottom of this disastrous policy and help the ATF and the department move forward.”

you’re just not my people.
/holder

ted c on September 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Why just stop at Holder? He’s got a boss who, more than likely, knew everything that the AG did.

kingsjester on September 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial “large magazines.” Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.

“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/guns/2011/05/25/obama-were-working-gun-control-under-radar#ixzz1WotyIhJH

windansea on September 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

did they at least put gps trackers in these guns? what a bunch of idiots…

gatorboy on September 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Arrogant politicians never learn: It’s not the crime that’ll get you; it’s the cover-up.

Rational Thought on September 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM

I foresee Holder will have to sacrifice himself to save his snugglebunny Barry.

Extrafishy on September 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

What was that famous line from the Watergate era?

“What did the President know, and when did he know it?”

Difference here is that, reading about this, that the source of this scandal may have come from the top, instead of just being covered up as was the case with Nixon.

And it goes without saying that no one died as a result of Watergate.

turfmann on September 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

windansea on September 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

For lack of a better term…there’s your smoking gun.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Deep Throat is the pseudonym given to the secret informant who provided information to Bob Woodward of The Washington Post in 1972 about the involvement of United States President Richard Nixon’s administration in what came to be known as the Watergate scandal. Thirty-one years after Nixon’s resignation, Deep Throat was revealed to be former Federal Bureau of Investigation Associate Director Mark Felt.

Paging the Whitehouse associate director.

Speakup on September 2, 2011 at 2:22 PM

No wonder Øbama is hiding in Camp David.

ctmom on September 2, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Watergate gradually unfolded. The burglary was in June 1972. Re-election of Nixon was that November.

I can’t remember when the details began to leak out, but Senate hearings were in summer of 1973 and Nixon finally resigned in 1974.

I expect Fast & Furious to unravel faster. It’s over a year until the election and hearings and investigations are happening now.

INC on September 2, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Which would be worse, Dear Liar knowing about this scheme, or having such an out of control bureaucracy doing this without his knowledge?

rbj on September 2, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Eh, He’s either going to feign illness or be forced to do a perp walk.

The Dems under Clinton are doing this.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:25 PM

I foresee Holder will have to sacrifice himself to save his snugglebunny Barry.

Extrafishy on September 2, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Maybe not. Janet “Barbecue” Reno got away with an 80-souls-plus massacre because she had the goods on Slick Willie.

viking01 on September 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

gatorboy on September 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Nooo, this was a political operation.

U.S. shares blame for Mexico drug violence, Clinton says

Guess she was right after all.

Speakup on September 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

We need an investigation of the media outlets that so faithfully echoed the thug administration’s propaganda re ’90% of guns recovered in Mexican crimes…’

Those outlets refused to offer an easy rebuttal of the government’s narrative. Did they do it because they had been let in on the scam, in which case they are co-conspirators, or were they just doing what the liberal media always does? I’d like to know which it was.

The Washington Post has a Partner’s Share in Terry’s Death

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

The only real answer to this mess is to eliminate the ATF, farm its real responsibilities to actual effective law enforcement agencies, and then fire all upper management and arrest any involved in this particular mess.

JIMV on September 2, 2011 at 2:28 PM

kingsjester on September 2, 2011 at 2:11 PM

I don’t think Eric Holder takes a piss without Obama’s say-so.

Cylor on September 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Watergate gradually unfolded. The burglary was in June 1972. Re-election of Nixon was that November.

I can’t remember when the details began to leak out, but Senate hearings were in summer of 1973 and Nixon finally resigned in 1974.

I expect Fast & Furious to unravel faster. It’s over a year until the election and hearings and investigations are happening now.

INC on September 2, 2011 at 2:25 PM

This started to unfold in February, but really started to heat up in early July. It’s happening at a much faster pace that Watergate.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Busted!

Crickets chirping on the lsm networks

cmsinaz on September 2, 2011 at 2:33 PM

U.S. shares blame for Mexico drug violence, Clinton says
Guess she was right after all.

Speakup on September 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Politically expedient? Separation between State Dept and Homeland Security and the WH?

Resign now, Obama. And take your Merry Band of Marxists and your Czars and your Mooch with you. And, don’t come back.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Everyone knows this was nothing more than an effort to thwart the 2nd Amendment here in the US.

Let it play out.

Does Janet Napolitano sweat under her arms?

/I think she does now.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

There’s no way the Marxist regime would allow the abolition of the ATF or the FCC.

ATF pulls in tax loot for booze and tabacky and the FCC loots every land line phone subscriber for a monthly $7.50 as the “Universal Service Fee” and “Subscriber Line Charge” whether you want your universe serviced or your line charged, or not.

viking01 on September 2, 2011 at 2:38 PM

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

I think any and all of them, should be held to account for this. With the excepetions of CBS, and LA Times. They both seem to be reporting on this legitimately, but the rest? They’ve done nothing, or bury it. Even if they weren’t let in on it, they don’t report this, the way they should, and MUST. That alone makes them complicit, to help hide or cover up this debacle.

It’s disgusting, and none of them should ever be trusted again. So much so, that I hope they flounder, and tank. They don’t deserve to be referred to as…the press!

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Does Janet Napolitano sweat under her arms?

The hair absorbs it.

(Sorry, it’s lunch time somewhere, I know.)

viking01 on September 2, 2011 at 2:39 PM

All the officials & bosses involved with this should be sacked, publicly tarred and feathered, then charged with complicity in the murders of the border agents that died because of this @*$&#ing stupid crap. I can’t believe someone thought giving guns to criminals was a good idea.

mythicknight on September 2, 2011 at 2:43 PM

slickwillie2001 on September 2, 2011 at 2:26 PM

I think any and all of them, should be held to account for this. With the excepetions of CBS, and LA Times. They both seem to be reporting on this legitimately, but the rest? They’ve done nothing, or bury it. Even if they weren’t let in on it, they don’t report this, the way they should, and MUST. That alone makes them complicit, to help hide or cover up this debacle.

It’s disgusting, and none of them should ever be trusted again. So much so, that I hope they flounder, and tank. They don’t deserve to be referred to as…the press!

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:39 PM

The main reason C-BS has stayed with the story is because they broke it.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM

But it’s not as if anybody died … oh, wait.

hachiban on September 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

I think gun rights was just a part of it. I really believe there’s something bigger going on though. You don’t arm drug lords with guns, and tactical equiptment…you don’t get cops in border towns in New Mexico involved, using tax payer paid for cop cars to deliver this crap, just to express outrage over gun use, and the need for banning them.

This rabbit hole, in my opinion is far deeper, and insidious then we might ever know.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM

The main reason C-BS has stayed with the story is because they broke it.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Agreed! But they, being shills for Obama, could have just as easily sat on it, or helped perpetrate the cover up, and they didn’t. Whatever their motives, they haven’t backed away from it, so I’ll give them some credit.

Just some, mind you. I still don’t trust them, or any of them that helped prop up Obutthead.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Fumbling and Foolish will be the end Title for this debacle. There are reams upon reams of printed documents that date back to the early installation of BHO.

The goal was to diminish and/or abolish Second Amendment Rights in America by pointing a finger at Mexico.

Much to their chagrin, Instead, the Obama Regime, knowingly armed lethal drug cartels with American weaponry.

. . .

This ain’t going away, Obama

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Everyone knows this was nothing more than an effort to thwart the 2nd Amendment here in the US.

Let it play out.

That is my takeaway – this was an effort begun under previous administrations that was utilized in a malevolent manner by the current administration – something they are highly expert at having been detailed in “The Weight of the Poor” – to foment a crisis. The only solution to the crisis is to further restrict the availability of firearms to a citizenry that has a God given right to possess them for the express purpose of defending themselves from the exact kind of tyranny that this administration wishes to impose. In case you are wondering, yes, I mean every single word of what I just wrote.

Does Janet Napolitano sweat under her arms?

/I think she does now.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:37 PM

You, sir, should be banned for penning those words. I have tried bleaching my eyes to no avail. I think I will go watch Megan Kelly for a while. Maybe that will wash that image from my mind. Yuck.

turfmann on September 2, 2011 at 2:49 PM

No doubt this goes all the way up to (or down from) Obama. Watch for the Dems to start quietly pushing this… it’s their way to get Obama off the ticket and say it was his own fault. They are coming to the realization Obama is likely to lose next year and they have to replace him.

behiker on September 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM

This rabbit hole, in my opinion is far deeper, and insidious then we might ever know.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:47 PM

It leads to CAIR. Who is now working in conjunction with the NBPP. Who is working in conjunction with…

/can’t say now

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:51 PM

That is my takeaway – this was an effort begun under previous administrations that was utilized in a malevolent manner by the current administration – something they are highly expert at having been detailed in “The Weight of the Poor” – to foment a crisis. The only solution to the crisis is to further restrict the availability of firearms to a citizenry that has a God given right to possess them for the express purpose of defending themselves from the exact kind of tyranny that this administration wishes to impose. In case you are wondering, yes, I mean every single word of what I just wrote.

Turf, you are very perceptive.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Prosecute them all.

RebeccaH on September 2, 2011 at 2:56 PM

“Evidence of another kind of cover-up in the scandal has surfaced, too.”

Now if there were only two, young, ambitious reporters who would stop at nothing to get to the truth of the matter and expose all to the American people, even though it might reach all the way to the White House and end a Presidency…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Tina,

If ATF is trying to get outreach to the Mexican government via someone on the white house, the white house knows what it is about.

AJStrata on September 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM

The main reason C-BS has stayed with the story is because they broke it.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Agreed! But they, being shills for Obama, could have just as easily sat on it, or helped perpetrate the cover up, and they didn’t. Whatever their motives, they haven’t backed away from it, so I’ll give them some credit.

Just some, mind you. I still don’t trust them, or any of them that helped prop up Obutthead.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM

C-BS actually took Sharyl Atkisson (she originally broke the story in February) off the case for 2 weeks in early July. At first I thought she was simply on vacation but she very quickly turned up working another story.

But she has been back on the story since late July.

But they are going to try as hard as they can to deflect this Fake Scandal away from the top. Pass the Popcorn.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 3:04 PM

I think this was SUPPOSED to be Obama’s Gulf of Tonkin type excuse to ditch the Constitution, and go after America’s gun dealers. Didn’t quite work out that way.

RBMN on September 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Imagine the MSM and Dem in-fighting on who gets to be Deep Throat.

/

Christien on September 2, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Eric Holder will not resign on his own; he will be forced out. This issue will deflect from Obama’s failures.

There will be hearings; there will be circus like fanfare. Because he’s black. It’s supposed to segweue into the racist meme for Obama.

It’s kind of funny, actually. Let him be the small man; the man who Re-ren Wright always spoke of… you white racists don’t deserve his adoration or pleasure. You white racists deserve to be put in yo place.

/And that’s the way it is. September 1, 2011. Walter Cronkite.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 3:10 PM

This started to unfold in February, but really started to heat up in early July. It’s happening at a much faster pace that Watergate.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM

I agree. There has been no slow dribble of info from someone like Deep Throat–the whistle blowers went public because of the extent and consequences of the crimes committed in F&F are far worse than Watergate.

INC on September 2, 2011 at 3:12 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 3:04 PM

I believe you’re right. Their ultimate goal is to protect Obama. No matter what.

But in this case, I don’t think they can. This will come out, and he’s going to be fingered, if he throws anyone under the bus. Even Holder would sing I think, if Obama dares throw him under there. They both fear each other. I’m hoping this plays out, to where no media entity, no matter how corrupt, or deviant they are, will be able to deny this.

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 3:13 PM

And more at PJM relating to how the cover-up on Agent Terry’s death started within hours. Who will have to be killed in order for this to hit the MFM radar? At this point they are providing a blanket of silence and cover for this administration. No one was killed because of Watergate.

ajacksonian on September 2, 2011 at 3:14 PM

We all know what this whole plot was about, the new “under the radar” assault weapons ban.

tarpon on September 2, 2011 at 3:17 PM

For the record; when the history is written;
there are two individuals who were foremost in
the discovery of FAST&FURIOUS/Gunwalker/Gunrunner…
they should both be given Pulitzers…

Mike Vanderboegh of Sipsey Street Irregulars Blog(three percenters)

and

David Codrea of The War on Guns Blog

Outstanding indepth reporting and discovery.

falderal on September 2, 2011 at 3:22 PM

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Before I join you in lauding SeeBS, let’s see how far they’re willing to go in pursuit of the truth. I’m not optimistic.

oldleprechaun on September 2, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Busted!
Crickets chirping on the lsm networks

cmsinaz on September 2, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Of course. However, this was from the LA Times. Correct me if I am wrong, but they ain’t exactly a bastion of conservatism.
This story could be getting legs, so to speak.

humdinger on September 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Possibly another “Alan Lichtman” criterion shifting from Obama to the (R) candidate. Good news.

kerrhome on September 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM

We all know what this whole plot was about, the new “under the radar” assault weapons ban.

tarpon on September 2, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Well, let’s look at the facts: the stated intent was to trace these arms to the cartels – except there was no way to do so and agents were told to stick with the original straw purchaser after the first transfer.

So it would seem that circumstantially that was the intent.

Obama could clear up this whole Walkergate scandal tomorrow with a few executive orders [He seems to be good at issuing them] for all agencies in the Downgrade administration to cooperate with the investigation and yet he doesn’t.

Why is that?

Chip on September 2, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Turf, you are very perceptive.

Key West Reader on September 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Why, thank you.

And I hereby revoke my banning fatwa against you. Megan Kelly wiped the slate clean. :)

turfmann on September 2, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Can you hear the words, “President Joeseph Biden” ringing in your ears?

elowe on September 2, 2011 at 3:33 PM

It is time for Florida, Texas, and Arizona to commence a joint criminal investigation. It will be a first. And a necessary one. State laws were broken. The Feds entered into a criminal conspiracy against these States.

pat on September 2, 2011 at 3:48 PM

this was from the LA Times. Correct me if I am wrong, but they ain’t exactly a bastion of conservatism.
This story could be getting legs, so to speak.

humdinger on September 2, 2011 at 3:26 PM

The La-La Times picked up on this a few months ago. They haven’t been following it as long as C-BS, but they are in second place for longevity as far as “reporting” on this Fake Scandal goes.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 3:48 PM

viking01 on September 2, 2011 at 2:10 PM

You forget one thing though the media hated Nixon because when they got put on his enemies list they weren’t invited to “A-list” parties.
The media love the “0″ so they won’t look for a deep-throat.

chemman on September 2, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Issa told Greta the other night that they had documentation from a 3rd party and they requested the same documentation from the DOJ, however it came heavily redacted. I didn’t realize that he knows exactly what he’s looking for at the DOJ. How come he has to wait for them to deliver?

piglet on September 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM

piglet: How come he has to wait for them to deliver?

You’ve heard of the law-school teaching: “Never ask a question you don’t have the answer to .. ”

Stupid isn’t entirely criminal; lying on the other hand ..
/.

CaveatEmpty on September 2, 2011 at 6:45 PM

piglet on September 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Something about giving them enough rope…

oldleprechaun on September 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM

capejasmine on September 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Before I join you in lauding SeeBS, let’s see how far they’re willing to go in pursuit of the truth. I’m not optimistic.

oldleprechaun on September 2, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Well, that certainly did not take long.

Friday night’s C-BS Evening “News” totally spiked the story on their broadcast.

What’s even more bizarre, C-BS’s Sharyl Atkisson, who was reporting on C-BS Radio earlier today on this latest part of the Fake Scandal, actually appeared on-air tonight-reporting a totally different story.

However, C-BS did find ample time to report the latest “news” about pitcher Roger Clemens. Much more relevant than a Fake Scandal, y’know.

Yep, they got The Memo. Dr. Goebbels would approve.

Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2011 at 6:57 PM

We need a special prosecutor…and I know just the guy for the job…Mark “The Great One” Levin.

Jarhead68 on September 3, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Something about giving them enough rope…

oldleprechaun on September 2, 2011 at 6:48 PM

This is what I see Issa doing a la Breitbart.

roy_batty on September 3, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Mean while Mexican troops crossed over the boarder here in Arizona, and opened fire on a group of hunters. You might think this is a first, well no, they have done this hundreds of times. Why no outcry from Washington? Why no warning to Mexico? There is something going on here way beyond “Fast and Furious” We have had farmers and ranchers all across the southwest boarder states killed by drug runners, and some in Mexican military uniforms, and yet nothing if anything is said or done. The killing of our agent is made more dispicable by the fact that Terry only had a @#$#@ bean bag gun to protect himself!

So we see that we allowed all kinds of assault weapons to “walk” into Mexico, and then prohibit our agents to be armed with nothing more then bean bag. Someone must pay.

jainphx on September 3, 2011 at 1:17 PM

. . . and the rest of the liberal press are completely silent on this? Surprise, surprise!

(Nice job LA Times!)

Pablo Snooze on September 3, 2011 at 3:28 PM