Oh my: White House “furious” that Boehner made them postpone speech until Thursday

posted at 6:05 pm on September 1, 2011 by Allahpundit

Remember, no less a partisan shill than James Carville told ABC this morning that the White House was “out of bounds” in trying to bigfoot the debate. But now the left is grumpy about the optics of Boehner having successfully forced Zeus to wait a day, so here’s the inevitable ingratiating “damn those wingnuts” lament from Mount Olympus:

The White House was well aware the president’s speech would conflict with a planned Republican debate sponsored by POLITICO and NBC to be held at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif. The debate would be broadcast live by MSNBC, CNBC, Telemundo and live-streamed by POLITICO.

Yet the White House did not see this as an obstacle. “With all due respect, the POLITICO-MSNBC debate was one that was going on a cable station,” the White House source said. “It was not sacrosanct. We knew they would push it back and then there would be a GOP debate totally trashing the president. So it wasn’t all an upside for us.”…

At about 10 or 10:30 a.m. on Wednesday, White House chief of staff Bill Daley called House Speaker John Boehner and asked that a joint session of Congress be assembled the following Wednesday night. The White House viewed Boehner as a political opponent, but not an enemy and the call was cordial, even pro forma considering such a request had never before been refused.

And, according to the White House source, Boehner said “okay” to Daley’s request for the Wednesday evening date.

Supposedly it was Rush Limbaugh ripping into Obama’s timing plus some grumbling from congressional Republicans that changed Boehner’s mind. True or false? Boehner may have reasoned initially that refusing Obama’s request would play into the White House’s “party over country” crap, notwithstanding the fact that delaying the speech so that they could counterprogram the GOP debate is itself an example of prioritizing partisanship. (If this jobs plan is the solution to America’s problems, why wouldn’t they want the country’s undivided attention for the speech introducing it?) Then, once the base got angry, Boehner might have reconsidered. I can buy that — except that it’s curious Jay Carney’s statement last night said nothing about Boehner having initially approved Wednesday as the day. All he said was that they’d “consulted” with Boehner earlier, which New Yorker reporter Ryan Lizza took as a tacit admission that they’d never cleared anything with the Republican leadership in advance. Hmmm.

Having said that, I can’t shake the nagging feeling that this entire moronic episode could have been avoided had O simply asked to address Congress later. But he was apparently intent to have it on the night of the debate — note the boldface part in the blockquote — which means Carney did indeed lie shamelessly to the press yesterday when he said the timing was a coincidence. Here he is this afternoon lying again, insisting that no one cares when the speech is scheduled — except for every Democrat in America, apparently — and that the White House is A-OK with it happening on Thursday. Except, of course, that they’re very much not. But otherwise, spot on.

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White House is furious? You mean fast and furious.

John the Libertarian on September 1, 2011 at 9:37 PM

canopfor on September 1, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Hey dude. Good to see you!

OmahaConservative on September 1, 2011 at 9:42 PM

The War Planner on September 1, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Don’t forget King Putt.

Missy on September 1, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Don’t you guys understand? This speech is urgent!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stRWtrmXkHo

Sorry, but the tune has been buzzing in my head after the WH press release yesterday said that the speech was URGENT!!!! twice in one paragraph.

onlineanalyst on September 1, 2011 at 9:59 PM

I made a comment earlier that I thought something may be up with this BS with the scheduling of the speech and the debate. Now it occurs to me that perhaps the presidents intent all along was to hype the debate by stomping on the schedule. Now the interest is there and as we learned earlier this week, the president met privatley with NBC/MSNBC brass while on vacation. Well, who’s sponsoring the debates? Non other than MSNBC! I fully expect questions from the moderators that are intended to embarrass the candidates and create something for the president to weild as a weapon when he speaks the next day.

glennbo on September 1, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Well, apparently there is 39% of people who get off listening to him talk and talk and talk and…well you get it…

Ltlgeneral64 on September 1, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Hide the womenz and chillrens.

SouthernGent on September 1, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Please correct me if I am wrong, but the Speaker of the House cannot schedule a Joint Session by himself. Doesn’t he have to get the Senate to agree, also? If so, why would anyone think the Speaker waffled on the timing when contacted by phone?

Oleta on September 1, 2011 at 10:11 PM

I fully expect questions from the moderators that are intended to embarrass the candidates and create something for the president to weild as a weapon when he speaks the next day.

glennbo on September 1, 2011 at 10:05 PM

guaranteed….

cmsinaz on September 1, 2011 at 10:15 PM

If the speech was really urgent (or ready), he could give it from the oval office at any time. Pthhhbbthh!

Fallon on September 1, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Now, now, it is time for another JEB BUSH lecture.

mobydutch on September 1, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Rush is (will be) ecstatic about the White House generated publicity and milk it for all its worth. He hasn’t been so personally fortunate since Clinton attacked him after the OK City bombing.

Young skulls full of mush will reason, “If he opposes Obama, then maybe worth a listen.” Tune in and listen to Rush make a first impression. (I do not work for the show.)

exdeadhead on September 1, 2011 at 10:32 PM

exdeadhead on September 1, 2011 at 10:32 PM

I can’t imagine that Rush is ecstatic about anything other than Boehner growing a spine. He has no need to “milk” the SCOAMF. He was around long before, and he’ll be around long after.

To benefit from Rush, you need to listen for a longer period of time (as a recovering liberal, for example).

disa on September 1, 2011 at 10:49 PM

I can’t shake the nagging feeling that this entire moronic episode could have been avoided had O simply asked to address Congress later.

Or, if congress is so bad, why can’t he give an oval office address?

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 10:59 PM

To benefit from Rush, you need to listen for a longer period of time (as a recovering liberal, for example).

disa on September 1, 2011 at 10:49 PM

Rush himself estimates 3 weeks of listening to disabuse the unknowing of their preconcieved notions about the show.

massrighty on September 1, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Hey Obama. That Boehner didn’t let you have your way makes me sad. But do you know what really makes me sad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgiUm4lQig

SagebrushPuppet on September 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Or, if congress is so bad, why can’t he give an oval office address?

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 10:59 PM

He wants to insult Republicans – especially those lynching hellbound teabaggers – to their faces, counting on them to sit there red-faced and take it.

disa on September 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Regarding the Republican debate: All the candidates should agree amongst themselves not to respond to any of the “raise your hand” type questions addressed to the entire group.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 1, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Rush himself estimates 3 weeks of listening

massrighty on September 1, 2011 at 11:04 PM

That’s about right. I resisted El Rushbo for years, even being a conservative libertarian. Then my commute matched his show, and it was all over.

John the Libertarian on September 1, 2011 at 11:28 PM

The Administrative WH scheduling CZAR, Mr. Crow, will reschedule or perhaps not.

dragondrop on September 1, 2011 at 11:36 PM

..only 507 days and that’s when he gets thrown out onto Pennsylvania Avenue. We get to send the eviction notice in another 431 days.

The War Planner on September 1, 2011 at 8:48 PM

And the phase btw. Nov. 6, 2012 and Jan. 20, 2013 will be a living hell. He’ll have more pardons and executive orders than anyone before him, just because he can and because he’ll be exerting his passive-aggressiveness and his clinical NPD, full blast.

Schadenfreude on September 1, 2011 at 11:39 PM

You can take the punk out of Chicago, but you cant take Chicago out of the PUNK!

This guy and al of his incompetent fanboy shills have done nothng but cheapen the office. The worls laughs at us!

JohnnyMojo on September 1, 2011 at 11:54 PM

all,,,,,,,world

Mad as hell!

JohnnyMojo on September 2, 2011 at 12:01 AM

“With all due respect, the POLITICO-MSNBC debate was one that was going on a cable station,” the White House source said. “It was not sacrosanct.

Fine! From now on the cable news outlets should not bother to cover Obama’s teleprompter if they don’t want to. They’re not sacrosanct after all.

Buy Danish on September 2, 2011 at 12:34 AM

White House “furious”

Ha, furious because they sense the entire event has revealed them as petty, bumbling twits.

petefrt on September 2, 2011 at 12:54 AM

The next thing you know…

… the Democrats will want to sit in between the Republicans to show a sense of ‘solidarity’ for the cameras during the speech, and also hide their numbers in Congress like last year.

Oh, wait…!

/

Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2011 at 1:16 AM

Until Obama, the last time the Supreme Court was trashed in front of congress was when FDR was trying to destroy it with court packing.

Good people have to fight back against Obama, he has no sense of decorum.

scotash on September 2, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Aw, did someone get dirt on President Princess’ party dress?

If the incompetent buffoon HAD a “jobs plan,” he’s had 31 months to present it. Now he wants a Joint Session of Congress – for what?

There is nothing he is likely to propose that he hasn’t already, or some other leftist hasn’t already tried and failed with. He is more apt to attack Congress and attempt to shift blame for his abysmal failure as President to the Republican who just took one House eight months ago.

Adjoran on September 2, 2011 at 1:23 AM

Own it Barry! Clown you created the pie that hit you in the face.

BHO Jonestown on September 2, 2011 at 2:39 AM

You can’t make this stuff up

The Obama administration is setting new workplace regulations to assist foreign workers who fill goat herding positions in the U.S. , including employee-paid cell phones and comfy beds.

http://opinions.caduceusx.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2909

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 2, 2011 at 3:03 AM

My Fellow Americans … By Jonah Goldberg

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on September 2, 2011 at 4:29 AM

The god-child is just gonna hold his breathe.

The audacity of “Ordering Congress around like servants”, has worn thin.

I would have been a LOT less courteous than the speaker.

I’m reminded of Pelosi, closing and locking the doors, turning off the lights, turning off the cameras, and leaving the Repub’s in the hallways.

This speaker seems a bit more civilized than the last.

And still, Obama, “the boy who would be king”, just doesn’t get it.

If he’s planning to come to congress and chide them again, he’s just being petulant now. The God-child needs a time-out.

docjohn52 on September 2, 2011 at 4:40 AM

He wants to insult Republicans – especially those lynching hellbound teabaggers – to their faces, counting on them to sit there red-faced and take it.

disa on September 1, 2011 at 11:05 PM

How galling it must be to sit there, respectfully silent, while some low-rent, muzzie-loving, socialist prick calls you names. It would take more forbearance than I could muster.

SKYFOX on September 2, 2011 at 6:02 AM

And Obama would have stomped his feet in anger if he wasn’t wearing Michelle’s red, satin pumps at the time.

SKYFOX on September 2, 2011 at 6:13 AM

The guy really sees himself as a king and when the serfs don’t obey he gets very annoyed.

Awwwwwww, pooor baby!

The entire event is staged for his CAMPAIGN. Congress should tell him he can’t use the US government for a CAMPAIGN event.

dogsoldier on September 2, 2011 at 6:15 AM

If the speech was really urgent (or ready), he could give it from the oval office at any time. Pthhhbbthh!

Fallon on September 1, 2011 at 10:19 PM

+1…

Khun Joe on September 2, 2011 at 6:40 AM

When the POTUS does make his speech my television will be off and I think every TV in the sports bars should be turned off because the MSM will tally the totals of the percentage who watch.

mixplix on September 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM

Congress should tell him he can’t use the US government for a CAMPAIGN event.

dogsoldier on September 2, 2011 at 6:15 AM

Outstanding! That would be worth a campaign donation to any Republican with the stones to say that.

Extrafishy on September 2, 2011 at 7:19 AM

What really chaps me about this, is that he had no problem going against the Republican debate. No problem at all, yet he has agreed to move the time to 7pm because of a football game.

This man is an ass.

bridgetown on September 2, 2011 at 8:15 AM

I won’t be watching the debate or 0bama’s reading.

lewis1940 on September 2, 2011 at 8:17 AM

What I love the most is that, as usual most of the conservative writers are allowing the media to frame the argument. I know the readers here remember this, but let’s not forget that the pres actually has to be invited by Congress in order to address them.

evilgolfer on September 2, 2011 at 8:32 AM

mixplix on September 2, 2011 at 6:58 AM

you dont really understand how tv ratings work, do you?

chasdal on September 2, 2011 at 8:32 AM

And Obama would have stomped his feet in anger if he wasn’t wearing Michelle’s red, satin pumps at the time.

SKYFOX on September 2, 2011 at 6:13 AM

That would be totally ludicrous if it wasn’t so easy to accept.

roy_batty on September 2, 2011 at 8:33 AM

If the speech was really urgent (or ready), he could give it from the oval office at any time. Pthhhbbthh!

Fallon on September 1, 2011 at 10:19 PM

He won’t do that because the last time he made an Oval Office speech, Boehner cleaned in his clock in his rebuttal. No, Bambi needs the pagentry of the Joint Session speech. He needs someone to proclaim, “Mr. Speaker! The President of the United States …” so we all remember that he’s “in charge”. And he needs a captive audience in which half of the crowd will stand and enthusiastically applaud every ad hominem, every cliche, every nonsensical proposal, and every word fart he utters.

PackerBronco on September 2, 2011 at 9:14 AM

I can’t shake the nagging feeling that this entire moronic episode could have been avoided had O simply asked to address Congress later.

Or if he has a jobs solution, he could put it in writing, and submit it to congress for discussion/vote as Jim DeMint suggested.

DrAllecon on September 2, 2011 at 9:16 AM

Of course the speech could wait until after his vacation, but not before the debate.

jeffn21 on September 2, 2011 at 9:26 AM

Having said that, I can’t shake the nagging feeling that this entire moronic episode could have been avoided

had O simply asked

to address Congress later.

He doesn’t need the freakshow. Put it on paper, have the CBO score it-if it’s good enough /snort then present it to We The People instead to brag that there are ways and means to bypass Congress when it comes to whatever he wants to do.

He can have a solo message-he simply wants the applause. Heh he’s lucky that Boehner is not that tough to simply say “no” you are not to address Congress at all-protocol people. Risking a lot of blowback but dozens of thousands of comments all over the Net are sick and tired of “waiting” for a jobs plan that should’ve been released BEFORE their vacation.

ProudPalinFan on September 2, 2011 at 9:28 AM

When this guy losses the white house, we might have to send in the SWAT team to pull him out. The first Bitter Ex-President.

Oil Can on September 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

I kid around here when it comes to my kids that they have to be taken out of places with a spatula.

ProudPalinFan on September 2, 2011 at 9:31 AM

The only thing coming out of this fiasco is Obama is exposing liberalism is truly a progressive mental disease and he is in the latter stages. As the nation’s economy crumbles, his only solution is to send the black racists in the Congressional Black Congress out to ratchet up hate and vitriole to incite his base. Like the Czech PM said,”The United States might be able to survive 4 years of Obama, but can they survive those that elected him?” We will find out.

volsense on September 2, 2011 at 9:37 AM

How clueless and inept can these people be? The repub candidates should postpone their debate until the following week and give Zero the night to speak before congress. This would take the bite out of his trashing the Rs for blocking everything he wants to do to save the economy. Keep up the good work doofus.

Kissmygrits on September 2, 2011 at 9:43 AM

What I just can’t wrap my mind around is how utterly CHILDISH it was of Obama to try and schedule a joint session during a Republican debate that’s been planned for months. No one is fooled by Carney or the White House’s current excuses. We all know Obama and his staff were sniggering behind their hands like adolescent schoolboys in appreciation of their own perceived cleverness. And, as usual when it comes to the antics of children… it blows up in their face.

I don’t think anyone has forgotten that Obama didn’t believe his “plan” was important enough to postpone his vacation to Martha’s Vineyard. But now, it’s so utterly important that waiting an extra day is “partisan politics”.

What’s really scary about all this is that apparently there’s NO ONE at the White House with any semblance of maturity or sense. It’s not like we expected it from Obama himself, but you’d think there would be SOMEBODY among his handlers who isn’t an abject moron.

Murf76 on September 2, 2011 at 10:23 AM

Cordial”, Heh, I can’t wait til someone tells the White House, and Obama to his face, “We won,” 2013, the year the President attempts to get employment from green jobs energy company. LOL.

mdetlh on September 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM

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Trochilus on September 2, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Not only does the “O” think he is a King but the White House thinks it is royalty too.

mixplix on September 2, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Barry is a little kid… who cries every time he has to share.
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RalphyBoy on September 2, 2011 at 11:22 AM

I’ll repeat what I said in another thread. Boehner needs to remember that while the camera is on Obama, he will be sitting right behind him. He needs to shake his head in disbelief and add a few facepalms whenever Obama says something stupid, and lean over and whisper “Hey Bud, watch yourself… remember you are in My House” whenever he blames republicans or the Bush administration for our problems.

AverageJoe on September 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Hey, can the Speaker of the House immediately address the joint session of Congress after the President is done? How sweet would that be for the republican response!!

AverageJoe on September 2, 2011 at 11:30 AM

There is more deep thinking going on in PeeWee’s Playhouse than this White House. Come to think of it, they both have those big ears – hmmmm.

PJ Emeritus on September 2, 2011 at 11:46 AM

Anybody who’s going to watch The Won’s upcoming speech will need one of these.

Oldnuke on September 2, 2011 at 11:54 AM

He needs to . . . lean over and whisper “Hey Bud, watch yourself… remember you are in My House” whenever he blames republicans or the Bush administration for our problems.

AverageJoe on September 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM

AJ, just remember . . . the last time somebody called somebody “Buddy” and leaned into him, and pointed out that he was in her “house,” she immediately started crying “Choke!” when the reflexive pushback occurred.

No need to be accused of “invading” his personal space bubble.

It’s going to pop all on its own!

Net Zero Man!

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Trochilus on September 2, 2011 at 11:59 AM

I wish this presdient and his staff didn’t use West Wing episodes as a blueprint for political decisions.

In this case, it certainly looks like they thought they’d be able to embarrass the republicans in the same way “president bartlett” did when he walked to see the republicans, but they kept him waiting so long he left.

Chitownmom on September 2, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Aww. Poor SCOAMF.

(Google it, you won’t be let down)

Red Cloud on September 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Yes he is…

stacman on September 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Who will be the first to yell at him that he ain’t got no pancake mix??

AverageJoe on September 2, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Carney’s right. Nobody cares what day Obama speaks, because nobody’s going to watch anyway.

RebeccaH on September 2, 2011 at 3:03 PM

It is true that no one cares what Obama says since nothing he says has even a hope of veracity. The whole world knows that he lies and nothing he says can be trusted to be truth or even the same lie the next time he speaks. His word is worthless and his integrity is none existent if he ever had it.

We are finding that there is no reason to listen in hope of learning something we can depend on. We as well as the world have become increasingly aware that Obama has risen far past his level competence. His incompetence is only equaled by those that advise him on what to do and say.

We know that what he says is usually the opposite of the truth, or just words said in hopes of calming a situation he is in, or to make him appear to have an understanding of a situation that he has no understanding of, or a denial of what he does not want to acknowledge.

We know that his words are all about him and his desires and his needs, his own delusions and visions of elevated status among men, the elite and great leaders who he aspires to rise above.

Obama is a man of smoke and mirrors lost within his own demented house of mirrors that has no exit.

Franklyn on September 2, 2011 at 6:49 PM

So the Republicans should cancel the PLANNED debate for this tool to unveil his Summer of Recovery, part 3 jobs plan Copyright 2009, 2010, 2011, as he spent 9 days on vacation, comes back one day early and goes back for 3 more days of vacation? Can he permanently stay on vacation now?

Obowma has to be the most tone deaf person in DC.

PS: I’m certain he’ll say he supports whichever team wins the NFL game that night.

dthorny on September 5, 2011 at 12:30 PM

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