Most don’t want Uncle Sam hiring millions more
posted at 10:45 am on September 1, 2011 by Jazz Shaw
Amid swirling speculation over whether Barack Obama will “go big” in his plans to address stagnant unemployment numbers, some liberal supporters of the president have been pitching a plan which would call for the federal government to hire up to a million people directly. Not that we wouldn’t like to see a million Americans employed, but how do people feel about having Uncle Sam take on the role of employer in that fashion? According to the latest Rasmussen poll numbers… not very supportive.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows that just 30% favor the federal government hiring one million people on a temporary basis. Just over half (51%) oppose this idea while another 19% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
While most Republicans (71%) and voters not affiliated with either major party (55%) oppose this proposal, 54% of Democrats favor it.
These results come at a time when the Rasmussen Employment Index shows that workers’ perceptions of the labor market have fallen to the lowest level measured in one year. Just 17% of workers report that their firms are hiring while 24% say lay-offs are coming.
One of the most frequently cited reasons for opposing this idea is apparently the fear that such jobs would be “wasteful, make-work projects” with no real benefit to the country. Gee… ya think? If the federal government was really so understaffed that the tasks suitable for a million people weren’t being done, they would have already been hired. (It’s not as if Washington has been shy about hiring.) Either that, or the government would have shut down.
What is perhaps most remarkable in these numbers is not how many Republicans and independents answered in a similar fashion, but nearly half of the Democrats admitted this wasn’t a viable solution. Setting people to unproductive work and paying them with taxpayer dollars from an already depleted coffer isn’t the formula for long term growth. Private sector hiring generates real wealth and grows the tax base which the government relies on to pay its bills. A plan such as the one proposed does nothing but provide a temporary sugar rush to the system and, possibly, a brief drop in the unemployment figures. That might be good for the president politically, but does nothing to put us on solid footing in the long run.









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Government workers are not “employees” in the context of economic growth and “jobs’.
Their employment is not predicated on economic activity based on the production of a good/service that someone else will purchase. (That’s a job)
Government employees, when you boil it down to financial terms, are the same as welfare recipients. They get paid no matter what the customer thinks. And the customer still has to pay.
BobMbx on September 1, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Hire them to do what? Dig holes and then fill them in?
Obama doesn’t need to ‘go big.’ Obama needs to go away.
Good Lt on September 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Just keep on diggin’ that hole deeper, lefties.
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Obama just wants to grow his federal family.
artist on September 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Uncle Obama can run ICE.
Oil Can on September 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Yay socialism!
So we’re going to put people to work by printing money, raising taxes and going into even more debt? Brilliant. I’m sure this will yield different results than it has the last 3 years.
This is really an attempt to buy 1 million votes with our grandkids money.
gwelf on September 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Good grief. What a stupid Idea!
becki51758 on September 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparatchik
William Amos on September 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Sounds great. This is going to be better than 1937!
forest on September 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM
enough FAT, LAZY, STUPID, MINORITY SLOTHS living off my TAX TEET….
GEEEEEEEZZZZ, enough is enough……
SDarchitect on September 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM
TVA! WPA!
Who’s with me?!
stvnscott on September 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM
– Jazz
Jazz, you … you, radical right wing extremist!!!
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM
FDR 2.0 And it is not an improvement. Windows 2.0 sucked too.
rbj on September 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Fascism writ large.
fossten on September 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Hire them to do what? Dig holes and then fill them in? – Good LT
How ’bout to build a wall at the southern border?
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Obama . . . listen closely and watch my lips if necessary. Communism, socialism, Marxism, social progressiveness and the establishment of a nanny state does not work and never will work. Wake up before you completely destroy this once great Republic and all that it stands for.
rplat on September 1, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Uncle OMAR Obama can run ICE.
Oil Can on September 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM
VegasRick on September 1, 2011 at 11:01 AM
How ’bout to build a wall at the southern border?
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM
A wall? No, not with this crew. A bridge maybe but a wall, no way.
VegasRick on September 1, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Seems as if some Dems are waking up and finding that the mechanisms to achieving a socialist utopia are going to be very expensive, and back breaking to everyone!
Seemed like a good idea in though, but the reality is…it sucks!!!
capejasmine on September 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Wake up before you completely destroy this once great Republic and all that it stands for. – Rplat
Silly Rplat … that’s what they’re TRYING to do!
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 11:04 AM
I hate hippies. That’s all.
VegasRick on September 1, 2011 at 11:05 AM
A “reasonable” number of government works are a “necessary evil” to administrate things. Beyond that it is all negative. Every government employee is a NET NEGATIVE to the GDP for the simple reason that 100% of their salary, expenses, pension, 401 K and health care costs are borne by the taxpayer and they only give back a percentage of this in taxes and spending.
Therefore to hire government workers to get you out of a recession is like trying to empty a pond by pouring two buckets of water into the pond for every bucket you drain.
MaiDee on September 1, 2011 at 11:05 AM
What we need is wealth creation. Government spending and jobs consume wealth.
single stack on September 1, 2011 at 11:05 AM
Government “workers” not government “works” of course.
MaiDee on September 1, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Wow, are they finally starting to get it?
A wall? No, not with this crew. A bridge maybe but a wall, no way. – VegasRick
SSSHHHHHHH! Don’t give ‘em any ideas! Imagine how many illegal votes they could get that way!
By the way, how are things at the Pawn Shop? :-)
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Obama should hire every unemployed American for make-work projects – plus award “temporary” work permits card to all illegals and take care of them too. There’s hungry children at stake.
When use the 14th Amendment to borrow money to pay their salary.
Hey presto, we’ll be 100% employed!
Uncledave on September 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM
1 Million government workers…..Doing What exactly?…
PatriotRider on September 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM
But…but…Government workers are taxpayers/ stupid lib
Howcome on September 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM
And of course these 1 million new hires will be REQUIRED to join a union, right?
SPCOlympics on September 1, 2011 at 11:12 AM
1 Million government workers…..Doing What exactly?… – PatriotRider
Civilian army, just as well trained and equipped as the military.
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Would it be a more productive use of our time to wait for whatever knuckle headed scheme Obama reveals on Sept 8 and attack then?
Or is this a good opportunity to educate people about economics? Sadly, even some commenters here are fairly ignorant about economics. I mean no offense by that. Where would people learn economics if they don’t take the time to read a book on it? We need to teach basic economics and budgeting in a high school class.
thuja on September 1, 2011 at 11:14 AM
We need to teach basic economics and budgeting in a high school class. – Thuja
CAPITALIST PIG! … Vee haff vays to change your mind. Vee vill teach zem sie ecomonics … of KARL MARX! Und you vill LIKE IT!!!
Tony737 on September 1, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Will they be issued a nice brown shirt to wear? Maybe this is the well funded, citizen security force Zero promised us.
Kissmygrits on September 1, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Those aren’t govt. jobs that is buying ew voters for the Democrats.
As in….attention all you million people that just got govt. jobs compliments of Obama and the Democrats…if you vote in the Repiblican in 2012 you will lose your jobs if the Repubs come into power. So vote Democrat and vote often!
albill on September 1, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Don’t forget the CCC back in the Great Depression…
Khun Joe on September 1, 2011 at 11:21 AM
That possibility occurred to me. I was thinking we could have economics taught by the math teachers and not the social science teachers. They could teach micro plus a few basic macro definitions. This could minimize politicization.
thuja on September 1, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Bill Clinton pulled the same trick by mandating the hiring of police to many cities and their paychecks were the responsibility of the cities but he took credit for putting them to work. Same story, different actors.
mixplix on September 1, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Reeducation camps need to be staffed. What’s a likely prisoner to fed ratio, maybe 15:1? Then they need an army of teachers to reeducate us in the ways of progressivism, and a typical government management structure.
slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2011 at 11:26 AM
To be generous, a million people = a payroll of 75 ~ 100 billion and doesn’t count training, equipping and fielding. Since House won’t fund it, Oboobie will have to find it in the current budget or borrow it from the raised ceiling.
Good luck with that million strong civilian army that is just as capable as our military. They will run screaming for their lives when they try to confront the freedom-loving and well-armed average citizen.
AH_C on September 1, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Luke, whats your dirt doing in boss Keene’s yard?
Bevan on September 1, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Precisely. Requiring every American to read the following three books would be a wonderful place to start:
Basic Economics, Thomas Sowell.
The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith.
The Road to Serfdom, F.A. Hayek.
StoneHeads on September 1, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Howabout those on long-term unemployment, say after 26 weeks, need to do some community service (e.g., garbage pick-up on the sides of roads), to receive the check.
WashJeff on September 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM
My twin objections to the hiring schemes-
1. Being civil service means that it would be near-impossible to fire these people
2. Being public employees means that the SEIU would be creaming themselves for a membership drive with all of these new hires
teke184 on September 1, 2011 at 11:32 AM
What else does liberal-ism have to offer?
Speakup on September 1, 2011 at 11:33 AM
A potential problem we fact is that the WPA did leave behind some nice structures. I played happily in this theater as an undergrad. I run over this bridge these days. And of course the WPA and the CCC did some work on the amazing Blue Ridge Parkway. We have to admit the fact of these structures, but comment that most of the money was wasted and the whole CCC, WPA efforts are what made the Great Depression last so long.
thuja on September 1, 2011 at 11:34 AM
one million government workers ? Oh yes, put them in the UAW, and put them to work building those new electric cars…
….then mandate that everyone working for the government has to buy one…..see?
….then shut down all coal fired electric power generators …. see?
It could work.
Skandia Recluse on September 1, 2011 at 11:37 AM
The second to last guy in the picture looks like Anthony Weiner. I hope Obama joins him in the unemployment line soon.
HellCat on September 1, 2011 at 11:40 AM
“Other than that Mrs. Linciln, how was the play” moment?
VegasRick on September 1, 2011 at 11:41 AM
I’d be happy if they read the Reader Digest Version of The Road to Serfdom, which is available at here for those who haven’t read it. Also, The Wealth of Nations would need to be abridged also.
thuja on September 1, 2011 at 11:41 AM
30% favor the federal government hiring one million people on a temporary basis
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Government…. TEMPORARY……. on what planet?
A sterling Example in Alabama
http://thefederalist-gary.blogspot.com/2011/08/civil-war-veterans-tax-is-still-being.html
Temporary….. Bwahahahahahahahahaha
roflmmfao
donabernathy on September 1, 2011 at 11:44 AM
A quote from Tina’s story back on June 24
Is Obama going to pull out the spoons?
taznar on September 1, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Every economic policy Obama proposes in the next year will have one goal: to artificially inflate the economic statistics.
tbrosz on September 1, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Hah-vard economists differ.
PackerBronco on September 1, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Over 50% favor hiring one person on a temporary basis with the last day of work scheduled for January 20, 2013.
PackerBronco on September 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM
To do what? Lean against their shovels? These guys have never had an original idea in their lives.
Jim Treacher on September 1, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Lots of government jobs created in Texas = Perry is awesome
Lots of government jobs created by Obama = f that guy
Dave Rywall on September 1, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Care to quantify that, then compare & contrast?
AH_C on September 1, 2011 at 12:39 PM
And back then you could just start a project.
Now you have 3-6 years of court battles, Planning Commission hearings and Environmental impact assessments to file before you can break ground on anything large enough to matter.
OBQuiet on September 1, 2011 at 12:43 PM
It’s not the government any more; you’re now part of the “federal family”. Get with the Goebles program.
Schadenfreude on September 1, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Nah, no one wants to fruck him, except maybe you.
Schadenfreude on September 1, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Lots of government jobs created by Obama = f that guy
Dave Rywall on September 1, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Nah, no one wants to fruck him, except maybe you.
Schadenfreude on September 1, 2011 at 12:52 PM
—–
Here’s where I trot out my oft-repeated “Obama is a D+ president and McCain would have been D-”
Yawn
Dave Rywall on September 1, 2011 at 1:11 PM
Useful link. Thanks.
gh on September 1, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Hey, how ya doin? You support the family don’t you? Know what I’m sayin? Fuggedaboudit.
slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Didn’t FDR try the same thing? Yea, I know it did not work then either.
old war horse on September 1, 2011 at 4:36 PM
I don’t think that matters. So many government-skool educated voters think that FDR ended the great depression, that anything little Bammie does that is FDR-like will be cheered. Maybe he should get a really-long cigarette holder.
slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM