CBC brushes Allen West’s threat to reconsider his membership aside

posted at 5:25 pm on September 1, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Congressional Black Caucus Chairman Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) is in no hurry to disavow the outrageous aspersions Indiana Democratic Rep. Andre Carson caustically cast at the Tea Party at a Florida townhall meeting during the August recess.

Florida Republican Rep. Allen West sent a letter to Cleaver Wednesday to warn he will reconsider his membership in the caucus if Cleaver fails to condemn the hate-filled comments of Carson and California Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters, who recently said “the Tea Party can go straight to hell.”

But CBC spokeswoman Stephanie Young today said the CBC is not likely to respond to West’s letter any time soon — because the caucus is too focused on jobs to disassociate itself from corrosive race-baiting.

“Members of the CBC are in the midst of the final event of the Congressional Black Caucus’s ‘For the People’ Jobs Initiative in Los Angeles,” Young said. “Throughout the month of August, over 20,000 people have attended a CBC Jobs Initiative event in Cleveland, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, and now Los Angeles. Real people are hurting, and the members of the CBC remain focused on getting Americans back to work.”

Meanwhile, as AP reported last night, Carson also refuses to apologize for saying that Tea Partiers in Congress would like to “see  you and me … hanging on a tree.” Guy Benson offers his commentary:

 Video of the full non-apology is HERE.  This guy is a nasty piece of work.  First, he refuses to apologize for a truly ugly racial remark.  Then, after lamely “clarifying” that he didn’t mean the entire Tea Party is a giant lynchmob, he doubles down and condemns nameless Tea Party “extremists” who cling to a dangerous Wallace-esque “mentality.”  Zero evidence or examples, of course.  Finally, just to prove what a shameless hack he is, Carson laments the country’s “vitriolic political environment” (!) and frets that it’s leading to increased attacks on minority groups.  Again, no evidence offered — and certainly no mention of the recent flash mobs and race riots that have made headlines across the country in recent weeks.   And remember, Carson isn’t the only Congressional Black Caucus member who made totally unacceptable racial remarks during the recess.

A very real part of me hasn’t wanted to touch this story. I question the efficacy of repeating Carson’s disgusting remarks even to censure them. But Carson’s utter unwillingness to apologize coupled with his apparent readiness to agitate further compels me to weigh in to say only — to Cleaver, to Carson, to West, to Waters, to all those involved: Enough is enough is enough. Carson should apologize. The CBC should disassociate itself with his vitriol. But if Carson and Cleaver aren’t going to do that, then they shouldn’t say anything on the subject at all (not even, “We’re too busy with jobs to take notice of West’s letter!). At some point, even the need for an apology, even the need to defend honor against odious, unfounded accusations is obviated by the even greater need for the silence and space to heal.

We’ve all experienced personal arguments in which each side talks and talks, vainly attempting to clarify and convince only to create disagreement on top of disagreement on top of disagreement. Often, in such cases, the original conflict is forgotten or assumes misshapen proportions. What’s needed in such times is a break from the debate — and, I’d argue, a little prayer! Time enough to argue later — let’s first remember what we’re arguing for. Presumably, we’re all advocating for the same end: A country that upholds equal opportunity for all. And if we’re not fighting for the same goal — if some of us want guaranteed equal results or some other objective — then let’s take the time to remember that, then reconvene and debate the real issues.


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They didn’t really want him in the first place, so…

beatcanvas on September 1, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Focussed like a laser on jobs for the past two years.

unclesmrgol on September 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM

The CBC is about as relevant as MSNBC. People that march in lockstep with the CBC are already lost.

David in ATL on September 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Tell them to kiss off Allen West..you are too good for them anyway!..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Why does this racist organization still exist and why are the taxpayers paying for it?

rjoco1 on September 1, 2011 at 5:30 PM

This racist group should be banned from congress and we should also stop funding La Raza. Stop the insanity.

tim c on September 1, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Does anyone have a list of who is what rank in the CBC? If you do just fill in their names below.

Grand Imperial Wizard-?
Grand Magi-?
Grand Scribe-?
Grand Dragon of the Realm-?
Grand Titan of the Dominion-?
Grand Giant of the Province-?
Grand Cyclops-?
Lictors-?
Ghouls-?

NotCoach on September 1, 2011 at 5:34 PM

“Damn at all these nails.”
 
- Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.)

rogerb on September 1, 2011 at 5:34 PM

The CBC names their current P.R. campaign “For The People.” Conservatives are more interested in “Of The People” and “By The People.”

Therein lies the difference. Never the twain shall meet.

Drained Brain on September 1, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Presumably, we’re all advocating for the same end: A country that upholds equal opportunity for all.

No. That’s not it. The CBC is engaging in pot stirring, demagoguery and lies as a means to evoke an emotional response. Equal opportnity is not what they are after–its vengeance.

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I don’t see West having the need to be told what to do or not do about this CBC situation.

Christien on September 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM

The CBC names their current P.R. campaign “For The People.” Conservatives are more interested in “Of The People” and “By The People.”

Therein lies the difference. Never the twain shall meet.

Drained Brain on September 1, 2011 at 5:34 PM

You do realize when the say “For the People” they don’t mean “all the people” They man “African-Americans who vote Democrat” All else can pound sand

Ditkaca on September 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM

is that emanuel cleaver in the pic or is it Lewis from GA?

Either way, on the day before the Obamacare vote, I saw that guy walking the halls of congress with an entourage on the supposed day that he claims he was harrassed. No evidence of that besides his own word, mind you.

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM

I hope they riot and burn his district to the ground…

WE have had enough, and WON’T build them a new one.!

golfmann on September 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM

The CBC exists today for one reason, to seek special status, treatment and attention to one group of people. Period. They have no interest in fairness, no interest in moral parity, and paradoxically no real interest in doing what is truly best for the people they claim to represent.

They are opportunists first and foremost, they trade on their skin color and heritage for money, fame and power. Politicians are all liars, but these people are actually a few notches lower, as they wallow in the vile stench of racism where none exists.

Tim Zank on September 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Black Democrat victimhood sees themselves as Field slaves, and Black Republicans as House Slaves. They think they are not equal. I know this because I have family who have told me this.

portlandon on September 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

But CBC spokeswoman Stephanie Young today said the CBC is not likely to respond to West’s letter any time soon — because the caucus is too focused on jobs to disassociate itself from corrosive race-baiting.

Yeah, it’s really too bad about President Downgrade screwing up so badly to cause Obama Recession, now they can’t focus on issues of hate-speech within their own ranks.

Chip on September 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

PS: and there’s West’s answer…

golfmann on September 1, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Where is Obama’s condemnation?

Right, kindergarten rules in the WH, a narcissistic, clinical case of NPD.

This is NOT the president for all the people.

Live the good live, Louis XV and Madame de Pompadour, for one more year and a bit.

Schadenfreude on September 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

I find it disgusting that a Congressional Black Caucus even exists. Who is the racist? How would they like it if there were a Congressional White Caucus?

If there has to be a race-based caucus, West should quit CBC and form his own with like-minded people.

Common Sense on September 1, 2011 at 5:45 PM

So long as Obama doesn’t condemn all that he is inciting violence, by condoning it.

Schadenfreude on September 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM

But CBC spokeswoman Stephanie Young today said the CBC is not likely to respond to West’s letter any time soon — because the caucus is too focused on jobs to disassociate itself from corrosive race-baiting.

Really. Sheesh. They allow one of their members to slander American people and then ignore a substantive counterargument from another one of their members.

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM

At some point, even the need for an apology, even the need to defend honor against odious, unfounded accusations is obviated by the even greater need for the silence and space to heal.

If we were talking about a one on one, personal dust-up, you wold have a point. This guy insulted millions of American citizens based on their skin color and disagreement with his ideology.

The ‘Right’ has stood by, has taken the high road, has been the better man for decades and what has it done? It has empowered and emboldened the Left to act as they are acting now.

The time to confront them and demand retraction and apology for blatant falsehoods and libel is now, not later.

Presumably, we’re all advocating for the same end: A country that upholds equal opportunity for all.

This is a false presumption. These people by their very rhetoric show they could care less for anything but their own ideology. For this guy and others like Waters and Sharpton and Jackson and Clyburn, it isn’t about the good of the country.

It’s about using their supposed ‘absolute moral authority’ to quash dissension and advocate for their own positions of power.

IMO it stopped being about equality in 1968.

catmman on September 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

because the caucus is too focused on jobs to disassociate itself from corrosive race-baiting.

Yeah! After years of social programs, welfare, medicaid, job programs, only to see more and more without jobs. It seems to me, that the CBC likes to see blacks, as well as others without jobs. Keeps their jobs safe, and relevant…does it not?

You are better than this group Mr. West. You are respected, admired and revered by those of us here. Don’t waste your time with people who feel they are above you, rather than your equals.

capejasmine on September 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Anyone know his opinion on Guam?

rogerb on September 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Why would the CBC disavow and distance themselves from remarks they agree with?

ButterflyDragon on September 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Oh, and West should bail.

catmman on September 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Anyone know his opinion on Guam?

rogerb on September 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM

LoL!..That was funny..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 5:53 PM

catmman on September 1, 2011 at 5:47 PM

+100

BacaDog on September 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

All of the race crap coming from Maxine Waters, Andre Carson etc., is coming straight out of the White House. The more outrageous their statements, the more free airtime they get to push the “Tea Party is racist” meme.

Maybe West should ignore them for a while because he’s playing right into their hands.

Knucklehead on September 1, 2011 at 5:58 PM

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM

That is Emmanuel in the pic..Cleaver is one of the CBC folks that got “spit” on by the TP person during the ObieCare debate..That turned out to be a total lie by Cleaver..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Rep. West, maybe you don’t get it. All the democrats have left is racial tension, and they aren’t dropping their last weapon.

Vashta.Nerada on September 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM

not one ted c, have you seen the videos that have emerged from this tour? All of them are saying these things or clapping when they are said. Maxine, Eddie Bernice, Al Green, SJL and many more. Each of these conferences has several members on stage getting up and besting the last speaker with this mess.

That they can’t make the time to address this during the tour means the tour is to make the statements to try to stir up the blacks. Remember the lady that walked out of the first one Florida in disgust? She said in her interview there was no discussion of jobs, just bashing whites.

DanMan on September 1, 2011 at 6:02 PM

West was elected to represent his constituents, and if they want him to back off defending them on this in favor or silence and healing, that’s between them and him.

Christien on September 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

“Members of the CBC are in the midst of the final event of the Congressional Black Caucus’s ‘For the People’ Jobs Initiative in Los Angeles,” Young said. “Throughout the month of August, over 20,000 people have attended a CBC Jobs Initiative event in Cleveland, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, and now Los Angeles. Real people are hurting, and the members of the CBC remain focused on getting Americans back to work.”

I wonder if any TP members could get these imaginary jobs.

MeatHeadinCA on September 1, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Knucklehead on September 1, 2011 at 5:58 PM

There is a topic in the Headlines on Vacation spots that is begging for a comment from you..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 6:07 PM

I wonder if any TP members could get these imaginary jobs.

MeatHeadinCA on September 1, 2011 at 6:07 PM

No..Like you pointed out..The jobs are imaginary..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Lol, I like the thought of Allen West sitting there being an unwelcome thorn in their side. If he leaves no biggie, but having a member of the CBC attacking Democrat policy is all to funny.

Africanus on September 1, 2011 at 6:09 PM

I hope he stays until he is inevitably called an “Uncle Tom” by one of the other members. The CBC’s a target-rich environment anyway.

Red Cloud on September 1, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Just a ???..Did Tim Scott (R) from SC join the CBC?..:)

PS..Just curious..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Presumably, we’re all advocating for the same end: A country that upholds equal opportunity for all.

No. That’s not it. The CBC is engaging in pot stirring, demagoguery and lies as a means to evoke an emotional response. Equal opportnity is not what they are after–its vengeance.

ted c on September 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Agreed. I’d think Tina isn’t green enough to believe the likes of Maxine Waters are interested in anything but UNEQAUL opportunity. If you’re poor, a democrat, and (a plus) “brown,” then Maxine has some money to send your way.

MeatHeadinCA on September 1, 2011 at 6:13 PM

No..Like you pointed out..The jobs are imaginary..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM

You’re right. I answer my own question; however, I do wonder if a single job was created by the members of CBC, would any white, conservatives get that job?

MeatHeadinCA on September 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Reading between the lines, it seems the CBC wouldn’t mind West going away. Their loss for sure.

GFW on September 1, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Reading between the lines, it seems the CBC wouldn’t mind West going away. Their loss for sure.

GFW on September 1, 2011 at 6:16 PM

If you look at the core values of the CBC, you’ll see they benefit without West holding office …

MeatHeadinCA on September 1, 2011 at 6:17 PM

MeatHeadinCA on September 1, 2011 at 6:14 PM

No they would not get the jobs..You make a good point..:)

Dire Straits on September 1, 2011 at 6:18 PM

Who would hire liars and cheaters and people with no ethics?

besides the government, of course.

Lonetown on September 1, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Carson is a sleazy fool and a racist demagogue, and if Cleaver won’t censure him for his outrageous remarks, then Rep. West should resign from the CBC. He’s far too decent to allow himself to be associated with this kind of garbage.

AZCoyote on September 1, 2011 at 6:25 PM

All of the race crap coming from Maxine Waters, Andre Carson etc., is coming straight out of the White House. The more outrageous their statements, the more free airtime they get to push the “Tea Party is racist” meme.

Maybe West should ignore them for a while because he’s playing right into their hands.

Knucklehead on September 1, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Exactamundo! This krap is being pushed and pushed by the likes of the WH, Holder, Waters, Carson, Sheila (triple crown weave) Jackson-Lee, et al. They are pretty much telling the likes of the Black Panthers, flash mobs, et al that it is their time! Riot! Get your stuff back from the man! Whitey is trying to get you down and keep you down, blah blah blah. It’s a plan. A reason for the O/Holder to set up their “volunteer army” of their people to take back what they say whitey has stolen from them.
Allen West is a man of his word, a man who stands up for what is right…..not what is white or black or green or orange, etc. They can not stand that! By the by, are there any other repubs in the CBC? Just curious….

sicoit on September 1, 2011 at 6:29 PM

But CBC spokeswoman Stephanie Young today said the CBC is not likely to respond to West’s letter any time soon — because the caucus is too focused on jobs to disassociate itself from corrosive race-baiting.

The only jobs they are focused on is their own. They all need to be primaried, every single one of them. They are U.S. Congress people, there is a higher standard they have to keep than the low rent profile they are protraying to the country. When they come on tv, I see boobs, on the boob tube.

Dr Evil on September 1, 2011 at 6:31 PM

What infuriates me, and should be painfully aware to the majority of people by now, is the absolute colossal failure of this group and democrats to do a damn thing over 40 years that has actually benefitted their core constituency (i.e. black Americans).

For over 40 years we’ve been printing money, piling it up in wheelbarrows and pushing downtown to the sidewalks and alleys of every major city (or “urban” area if you prefer) in this nation with conclusive proof it hasn’t done a damn bit of good to help anyone rise up out of poverty.

The only result that is conclusive is this, much like giving your neighbors dog a steakbone will bring him back to your porch every night thereafter forever, handing out free food, housing, cell phones, laptops, and money will bring those recipients back every night in perpetuity as well.

These people, the CBC, are their own peoples worst enemy.

Tim Zank on September 1, 2011 at 6:33 PM

With all this hateful racists speech from the CBC…

… I’m glad the statue of the Rev. King is white.

Oh, wait…!

/

Seven Percent Solution on September 1, 2011 at 6:42 PM

— because the caucus is too focused on jobs procuring more hand-outs for their constituency to disassociate itself from corrosive race-baiting.

Let’s live in the real world for a change….

BigWyo on September 1, 2011 at 6:45 PM

then let’s take the time to remember that, then reconvene and debate the real issues.

Dreamer. Liberals never debate the real issues.

ladyingray on September 1, 2011 at 6:46 PM

It says a lot about West that he joined it in the first place.

Notorious GOP on September 1, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Did the CBC accuse the honorable, responsible Col. West of “actin’ white”?

viking01 on September 1, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Tina, your closing is nice, but it’s obviously unrealistic. You can’t be reasonable with “humans” like this.

SouthernGent on September 1, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Presumably, we’re all advocating for the same end: A country that upholds equal opportunity for all.

Equal opportunity is a standard impossible for any form of government. Some people are born into a better environment that other people and no government has any business trying to equalize that. I believe what you meant to say was equal protection under the law.

warden on September 1, 2011 at 7:21 PM


West should quit CBC and form his own with like-minded people.

Yea…West might get lucky and find maybe enough blak members to get up a decent card game of Texas Holdm!

West doesn’t exist as far as these buffons, clowns and field hands are concerned. He left the plantation long ago…and thus is irrelevant because he refuses to be a slave to poverty pimp ideology.

Man…I’d just love to hear one sizably balled American say…the CBC can go to hell!

Twana on September 1, 2011 at 7:24 PM

He is pointing out the hypocrisy of the left in a way no other republican can. You go Allen. I wish for Rubio and West to be my Senators very soon.

Grunt on September 1, 2011 at 7:26 PM

What’s needed in such times is a break from the debate —

Tina Tina Tina Tina!!! The time for giving time for things to cool down is well and gone. It IS now time to get back in THEIR faces and FORCE the issue to a head so that the SOBs can be fully exposed in public as the hater race baithers that they are.

Its “Damn the torpedoes” tme Tina.

44Magnum on September 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM

The CBC is a collection of racists and bigots. Like unions, they have outgrown their usefulness.

ultracon on September 1, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Cleaver….has been in the race business all his life. He could have been another black panther like his same named brother.

Seems all ya need….is that Revvvvvvvrend title to get ah…..respect!!!

Ironic that the dems / libs despise Christians…yet more than 95% of blacks are VERY RELIGIOUS….don’t like abortion….don’t like those who live on the “down low”….but are slavish to the party that does. To say nothing of the fact that it’s the dems that invented the KKK, have socialists, unionists and commies as the core of their party.

Twana on September 1, 2011 at 7:37 PM

What’s needed in such times is a break from the debate — and, I’d argue, a little prayer! Time enough to argue later — let’s first remember what we’re arguing for.

And a few lilting verses of Kumbaya, Tina?

Spare me. There is no bad time to speak the truth upon truth upon truth, or whatever groups-of-three hand-wringing is required. Here goes.

The CBC is the most wretched collection of half-retarded, know-nothing politicians in America, except for the Chicago City Council. It is a fundamentally racist organization, and peopled by hateful racists.

There isn’t a single respected politician in the group, nor anyone who has accomplished creditable work outside of winning racially gerrymandered elections and serving as quota-filling tokens for the Democrat party. Allen West sullies what reputation he has by attempting to clean up that mess — it is the toxic waste dump of congress.

Tuning out for a while to pretend they don’t exist won’t calm things down; these retards will still be there when you decide it’s time to expose them again.

Jaibones on September 1, 2011 at 9:57 PM

I don’t want Carson hanging from a tree. I just want him to become another element in the jobless statistics. I just want to see him replaced with a more sensible smaller government legislator and let him watch his ideology crumble as small government policies lead the nation to a strong recovery.

{^_^}

herself on September 2, 2011 at 5:09 AM

obviated by the even greater need for the silence and space to heal.

No! Hell no! Our previous silence allowed the race baiters to prosper. Evil must be confronted, constantly and thwarted.

It’s time we all began to repudiate them for as long and as loud as necessary. What is the difference between a race bully and any other bully?

The only way to handle a person of this ilk is to stand up to them, and correct them publicly. The BS has gone on long enough.

dogsoldier on September 2, 2011 at 9:57 AM

One thing you can be sure of and that is the C in CBC does NOT stand for “Credibility”.

Allen West should tell these clowns to shove their caucus and leave it!

pilamaye on September 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM

It has always been misnamed. The true name is Congressional Black Liberal Caucus.

MTinMN on September 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM