Tea-party group to protest other tea-party group’s event because Romney is speaking

posted at 8:38 pm on August 31, 2011 by Allahpundit

He’s tearing the tea party apart.

FreedomWorks, which had been participating in the Tea Party Express’s tour and had helped turn out activists at rallies during prior stops, decided it could no longer be affiliated with the tour, said Brendan Steinhauser, a lead organizer for FreedomWorks.

Instead, it began working with local New Hampshire tea party groups to organize a counter rally set for about the same time in the same park in Concord as Romney’s speech.

“We have to defend our brand against poseurs,” Steinhauser said.

FreedomWorks had voiced quiet displeasure with the Tea Party Express’s decision to grant speaking time at a rally in Utah earlier this summer to Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who has been targeted by FreedomWorks. But when Romney’s participation was announced, Steinhauser said that represented “a major line we would not cross.

“If we can’t make any distinction between any of the candidates, if we’re just going to provide cover for the establishment candidates, then what is the point of having the tea party?” Steinhauser said. “We’ve got to have a brand, and we can’t water down our brand.”

The TP dispute over Romney isn’t new. Remember when Tea Party Express chief Amy Kremer said back in June that her group would certainly support him if he’s the nominee? Five days later, Matt Kibbe of FreedomWorks hinted that some tea partiers might have no choice but to stay home if that happens, so problematic is Romney’s record for principled conservatives. The Tea Party Express will end up winning that argument eventually on “anybody but Obama” grounds, but I admit to being surprised that they’d accommodate Mitt right now, at a moment when he’s increasingly desperate to fend off Perry by shoring up his own conservative cred. It’s one thing for tea partiers to go to bat for him after he’s nominee, when Obama is the last obstacle before reaching the White House, but why give him cover when Perry, Bachmann, and probably soon Palin are all in contention for the nomination? He’s never attended a tea-party event before; anyone think he’d be keen to attend this one if Perry wasn’t suddenly up double digits on him? That is to say, even at a moment when he’s ostensibly proving his conservative bona fides, he’s acting out of obvious political expediency.

The other factor here for Romney is the primary calendar, which may end up as fluid as it was four years ago. Arizona’s already poised to move its primary up, which will force Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and the rest to move up too. The earlier people start voting, the less time the candidates have to shore up support in key constituencies. Mitt can’t delay his outreach to tea partiers even if he wanted to. Exit question: How will this affect his alleged Mediscare strategy against Perry? Most tea partiers are fans of entitlements too, if you believe the polling, but it’ll be surreal to watch Romney simultaneously launch a “protect our welfare state” campaign against Perry and a campaign of outreach to the most fiscally conservative movement in America.

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Romney is just tearing himself further apart. It’s over. The fat lady is yet to sing…but this train should have been steaming in 2008.

There’s a man/woman for each time.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Schism

CW on August 31, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Obama approves.

mythicknight on August 31, 2011 at 8:42 PM

wishing Romney would save his money and work on creating jobs

Conservative Voice on August 31, 2011 at 8:46 PM

FreedomWorks is the organization that put together the first big 9/12 protest rally against ObamaCare that really turned the tea party into a national phenomenon. Tea Party Express is the group that gave us Christine O’Donnell. They’re a bunch of posers trying to capitalize on the tea party’s name. FreedomWorks is the real deal.

Caiwyn on August 31, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Well, come on. They gave Romney hell for not coming to more of these things, and then he does, they still give him hell.

If they don’t like him, they can just ignore him.

I put up with Ron Paul. year after year. They can put up with Romney.

To be honest, I am not sure which of these candidates is really more of a Tea Party candidate. All of them have something in their past that could give them trouble. Even Perry has had his problems with fiscal issues.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Until mainstream America, Tea Party included, realizes that SS and Medicare MUST be overhauled (not only to keep our nation semi-solvent, but to save the programs themselves), then we will remain on the fast track to oblivion.

Numbers don’t lie, unless they’re manipulated by lying politicians. Pardon the redundancy.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Great. Cut off your hand for touching your apple.

Limerick on August 31, 2011 at 8:52 PM

It is inevitable that this tactic will be used to destroy the decentralized TP. Just didn’t think it would be used by Romney first.

faraway on August 31, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Most tea partiers are fans of entitlements too, if you believe the polling…

With all due respect, I’d need to see a link to the poll(s) in question before I’d believe that statement…

Mary in LA on August 31, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Holy shit! Romney’s got a hair out of place in that front-page pic!

End times, people.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Caiwyn on August 31, 2011 at 8:46 PM

TPE is a group that wants to set the Tea party agenda. Freedomworks is the same. The Tea party showed it has muscle, and now everybody wants to harness it to their own ends. The end result will probably be the whole movement ripping itself apart over infighting.

Southernblogger on August 31, 2011 at 9:06 PM

What is the tea party’s position on immigration? Are there seriously tea party people who are backing La Raza Rick? They need a convention and a platform, otherwise it’s a doomed movement that will simply believe whatever Rush Limbaugh tells them to believe from one day to the next.

Buddahpundit on August 31, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Mitt and Jim deMint are friends. deMint supported Romney last time around and I think he’ll support him again.

I think AP makes way too much of the inevitable puffery surrounding Perry and Mitt’s reaction to it.

Mitt looked extremely confident at the VFW in Texas. He looks so comfortable this time around….AP is in Teen Beat terriroty with ascribing all these feeling to Romney.

Plus Perry’s Tea Party/conservative creds aren’t stellar, so maybe the Tea Party Express is hedging their bets that a scuffed Perry isn’t so much “The One”.

I guess after all these examples you could add, but he sure does pray good.

•Perry pressures Congress to pass TARP in a joint letter with the DGA (sshh don’t tell the Tea Party)

•Perry was against Obama Stimulus Money until he took it (sshh don’t tell the Tea Party)

•Perry liked his executive ordered mandate until it was politically untenable

•Thought Hillarycare was commendable and had his hand out ready for a piece of it

•Advocated for bi-national health insurance with Mexico

•Dove right in and swam in the Texas cesspool of pay to play; we’re only beginning to know what’s in that swamp.

•Held a pre-presidential prayer party with some freaky fringe evangelicals organizing the event for him

•Less than a year ago published a book that uses extreme language to describe and deal with the third rail of politics of SS, Medicare and Medicaid, though now his campaign communication director says that “Fed Up” is meant to reflect Perry’s current view on how to fix the program

sheryl on August 31, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Really douchebags?? Protest Romney.. Get a freaking clue..How about protesting the people that are calling you lynching racists…

Political Chef on August 31, 2011 at 9:07 PM

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:55 PM

It took a 1000 dollar haircut to produce that look.

Southernblogger on August 31, 2011 at 9:07 PM

The Tea Party is against Romney for what? I thought their primary mission was a balanced budget – well, he balanced the budget in Massachusetts and took a terrible deficit and left the state with a surplus. He did it by cutting spending, waste and consolidating departments of government.

There is no reason for the Tea Party to be anti-Romney.

Check out Romney’s speech to the VFW in Texas.

joncoltonis on August 31, 2011 at 9:09 PM

I wonder how this fits the “the TEA party is just an AstroTurf project bankrolled by the Koch Brothers” nonsense?

Browncoatone on August 31, 2011 at 9:09 PM

What is the tea party’s position on immigration? Are there seriously tea party people who are backing La Raza Rick Palin? They need a convention and a platform, otherwise it’s a doomed movement that will simply believe whatever Rush Limbaugh tells them to believe from one day to the next.

Buddahpundit on August 31, 2011 at 9:06 PM

FIFY

Southernblogger on August 31, 2011 at 9:09 PM

TP on TP crime…oh I can just picture Allapundit, this shadowy figure snickering and giggling as he hammers on his keyboard…

fossten on August 31, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Isn’t Sarah Palin joining the Tea Party Express? The same group who sent out e-mails with all the new Congresscritters personal phone numbers 6 months ago?

Knucklehead on August 31, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Knucklehead on August 31, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Meh. I joined the U.S. Army after My Lai. Didn’t think twice about it.

Limerick on August 31, 2011 at 9:19 PM

“We’re from the People’s Front of Judea, NOT the Judean People’s Front!”

robblefarian on August 31, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Stupid. When you are afraid for your members to listen to someone? not good at all. Proper response, please come and talk…and all of our people will listen respectfully.

r keller on August 31, 2011 at 9:22 PM

And I say that in sorrow. Fifteen years ago I liked Armey. But like Newt, doesn’t know when to quit.

the conservative movement needs new blood…not old stale people

r keller on August 31, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Meh. I joined the U.S. Army after My Lai. Didn’t think twice about it.

Limerick on August 31, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Thank you for your service. May we always be worthy of it. (I do try…)

Mary in LA on August 31, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Tea Party? T = Taxed E = Enough A = Already

This is what TEA stands for! It is NOT a PARTY.
It is a lot of fed up Americans who are Taxed Enough Already and sick and tired of Socialism being pushed down our throats!

Be very careful. Although I a a very conservative person, a lot of people who went out into the streets were Republicans, Democrats, and so called Independents who had NEVER gone into the streets to protest anything.

We are not a party we are like minded on many issues.
Every Voter should have the right to hear all candidates running against the criminal in our White House!

Delsa on August 31, 2011 at 9:25 PM

“We’re from the People’s Front of Judea, NOT the Judean People’s Front!”

robblefarian on August 31, 2011 at 9:19 PM

*snort*

Thank you for that!

massrighty on August 31, 2011 at 9:25 PM

The people who supported Christine O’Donnell worrying about tarnishing their brand?

LOL

Good Lt on August 31, 2011 at 9:26 PM

r keller on August 31, 2011 at 9:22 PM

+ A gazillion

Southernblogger on August 31, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Tea Party? T = Taxed E = Enough A = Already

This is what TEA stands for! It is NOT a PARTY.
It is a lot of fed up Americans who are Taxed Enough Already and sick and tired of Socialism being pushed down our throats!

Be very careful. Although I am a very conservative person, a lot of people who went out into the streets were Republicans, Democrats, and so called Independents who had NEVER gone into the streets to protest anything.

We are not a party we are like minded on many issues.
Every Voter should have the right to hear all candidates running against the criminal in our White House!

Delsa on August 31, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Still pushing the mediscare meme.

Romney supports the Ryan Roadmap. His position is the same as every other Republican on the campaign stump.

On the other hand, a POTUS candidate running a platform that supports a 19th century safety is nihilistic and stupid.

Of course its an issue because the Dems are going to make it an issue. Perry cant handle defending Fed Up now, he best quit the race.

swamp_yankee on August 31, 2011 at 9:34 PM

•Advocated for bi-national health insurance with Mexico

Sheryl, that doesn’t mean what you think it means, or you wouldn’t be bleating about it every five minutes.

Research it, then get back to us an bitch about it some more. Then we’ll know for sure you’re a plant (or a vegetable at the least.)

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 9:34 PM

•Advocated for bi-national health insurance with Mexico

Sheryl, that doesn’t mean what you think it means, or you wouldn’t be bleating about it every five minutes.

Research it, then get back to us an b!tch about it some more. Then we’ll know for sure you’re a plant (or a vegetable at the least.)

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM

According to Freedomjerks, anyone who governed or represented a Blue-ish State can never be part of the Tea Party.

Those of us in the trenched know how hard it is. Idiot yahoo Tea Parties that have been active for a couple of years in places like Texas and georgia are displaying their idiocy.

Not Chris Christie, not Paul Ryan (TARP), not anyone who ever had to claw, challenge, and fight inch by inch to makes moves in a state like New Jersey or Massachusetts will ever be good enough.

Its retarded. Being a GOP governor in Mass with Romney’s record is 100 times more difficult than being a GOP governor in TX or AK. The Freedomjerks need to grow up.

swamp_yankee on August 31, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Research it, then get back to us an b!tch about it some more. Then we’ll know for sure you’re a plant (or a vegetable at the least.)

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM

I researched it, and under his plan, taxpayer money would go to help provide health care to Mexicans in Mexico.

swamp_yankee on August 31, 2011 at 9:40 PM

I researched it, and under his plan, taxpayer money would go to help provide health care to Mexicans in Mexico.

swamp_yankee on August 31, 2011 at 9:40 PM

A link would be greatly appreciated.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 9:44 PM

I was under the impression that it would be an insurance plan like any other; paid for by the insured, only that the border wouldn’t exclude locals from either side. Perhaps I was misinformed; please link any pertinent information.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Tea Party? T = Taxed E = Enough A = Already

This is what TEA stands for! It is NOT a PARTY.
It is a lot of fed up Americans who are Taxed Enough Already and sick and tired of Socialism being pushed down our throats!

Be very careful. Although I a a very conservative person, a lot of people who went out into the streets were Republicans, Democrats, and so called Independents who had NEVER gone into the streets to protest anything.

We are not a party we are like minded on many issues.
Every Voter should have the right to hear all candidates running against the criminal in our White House!

Delsa on August 31, 2011 at 9:25 PM

THANK YOU DELSA. I am an individual who stands with a bunch of people I have never even been introduced to, much less “organized” with, because we are sick of politicians passing bills without reading them and passing along the cost-with-compounded-interest for their spending to me, my kids, and my grandchildren.

I am not a “party” apparachik in any sense of the word.

RushBaby on August 31, 2011 at 9:48 PM

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 9:44 PM

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/10688/

I urged legislators to pass a telemedicine pilot program that will enable, through technology, a sick border resident of limited financial means to receive care from a specialist hundreds of miles away. But the effort to combat disease and illness requires greater cooperative efforts between our two nations. It is a simple truth that disease knows no boundaries. An outbreak of drug-resistant tuberculosis, for example, endangers citizens of both our nations. We have much to gain if we work together to expand preventative care, and treat maladies unique to this region.

Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That’s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.

Right before this:

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it.

swamp_yankee on August 31, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Tea Party Express also brought us nutjob Sharon Angle. When Reid’s re-election was in serious danger TPE help promote the worst possible candidate.

Kermit on August 31, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Isn’t Dick Armey affiliated with Freedomworks? Isn’t he a
backstabber from way back?

These leaders are now obviously power hungry and are using the
Tea Party folks as their vehicle to fame. First that idiot Crew or whatever his name is that made all the faux pas with the Palin
speech. Now this. Shameful.

It is totally unnecessary to protest a repub’s campaign.
It is disgraceful and a slap in the face to the millions of
Americans who joined their LOCAL tea party groups in the attempt
to elect conservatives who will set this country right.

What a bunch of dumbasses. I hope someone is taking names
so we will all know which groups not to contribute any monies to.
Dry up their funds.

Amjean on August 31, 2011 at 9:57 PM

How will this affect his alleged Mediscare strategy against Perry? Most tea partiers are fans of entitlements too, if you believe the polling, but it’ll be surreal to watch Romney simultaneously launch a “protect our welfare state” campaign against Perry and a campaign of outreach to the most fiscally conservative movement in America.

I don’t think that is how he will phrase it. I think he will say that these programs require reform not elimination. I don’t think he will say he is “protecting the welfare state”, I think he will say that he is saving the social safety net for working families.

Just my guess. Because the truth is even Tea Party people have family members on social security, medicare, veterans benefits and even medicaid..if grannie is in the nursing home.

People have been on his ass to spend more time with Tea Party people, don’t be surprised if he at least tries to do some campaigning.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 9:57 PM

President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it.

swamp_yankee on August 31, 2011 at 9:52 PM

There were several caveats that came with that statement, no?

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Is this the same FreedomWorks that endorsed Sharon Angle in the Nevada Senate GOP primary? Enough said.

ncconservative on August 31, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Tea Party Express camped out in AK for Joe Miller who ended up losing a write-in to Murkowski. TPE made the locals really mad with their arrogance in AK and some statements with the TPE and Miller about the native Americans shouldn’t vote if they couldn’t speak English. Also gave us Sharron Angle in NM.

No thanks to that group. Tea Party needs to stay local. Romney is really putting his finger in the wind and flip flopping again to pander now to the Tea Party. Would sure hate to be as dumb as Romney thinks we are.

PhiKapMom on August 31, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Isn’t Dick Armey affiliated with Freedomworks? Isn’t he a
backstabber from way back?

These leaders are now obviously power hungry and are using the
Tea Party folks as their vehicle to fame. First that idiot Crew or whatever his name is that made all the faux pas with the Palin
speech. Now this. Shameful.

It is totally unnecessary to protest a repub’s campaign.
It is disgraceful and a slap in the face to the millions of
Americans who joined their LOCAL tea party groups in the attempt
to elect conservatives who will set this country right.

What a bunch of dumbasses. I hope someone is taking names
so we will all know which groups not to contribute any monies to.
Dry up their funds.

Amjean on August 31, 2011 at 9:57 PM

THIS!!! 100% correct!!
These supposed Tea Party organizations are nothing but greedy egotists and use the Tea Party as platforms for for their leaders. They do not represent this Tea Partier nor any Tea Partiers that I know. I never gave them a dime and will never do so. We don’t need them. Support your local and state candidates. Work for candidates you agree with and want to see be elected. Work on issues. There are plenty of local and state groups getting alot done, Ohio is a good example. We don’t need these idiots.

Deanna on August 31, 2011 at 10:41 PM

But, what will he wear?

Fallon on August 31, 2011 at 10:53 PM

The Express are the same jokers who tried to foist Mark Neumann on a clearly-unwilling Wisconsin in 2010.

Steve Eggleston on August 31, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Damn right!!! Romney would produce fake tparty folks if he could!!

THE CHOSEN ONE on August 31, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Neither one of those groups represent me. The tea party is not an organization.

Ronnie on August 31, 2011 at 11:09 PM

The TP dispute over Romney isn’t new. Remember when Tea Party Express chief Amy Kremer said back in June that her group would certainly support him if he’s the nominee? Five days later, Matt Kibbe of FreedomWorks hinted that some tea partiers might have no choice but to stay home if that happens, so problematic is Romney’s record for principled conservatives.

Nope. Nopenopenope. I won’t vote for Romney or any RINO in 2012.

Nevaire, mon ami!

disa on August 31, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Matt Kibbe of FreedomWorks hinted that some tea partiers might have no choice but to stay home if that happens, so problematic is Romney’s record for principled conservatives.

Just noticed this. “Principled conservatives?” Yeah right. The same Matt Kibbe at CSE who ran phone lines for votes for Nader? Anything goes? Hmmm…

Deanna on August 31, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Romney balanced the Massachusetts budget + ran a surplus with a 85% Democratic legislature..and he didn’t need stimulus funds to do it…

therightwinger on August 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM

“Drama” just follows this guy around, the attention whore…

Gohawgs on August 31, 2011 at 11:55 PM

Neither one of those groups represent me. The tea party is not an organization.

Ronnie on August 31, 2011 at 11:09 PM

+1

alwaysfiredup on September 1, 2011 at 12:57 AM

Romney balanced the Massachusetts budget + ran a surplus with a 85% Democratic legislature..and he didn’t need stimulus funds to do it…

therightwinger on August 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM

MassCare.

alwaysfiredup on September 1, 2011 at 12:57 AM

Romney balanced the Massachusetts budget + ran a surplus with a 85% Democratic legislature..and he didn’t need stimulus funds to do it…

therightwinger on August 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM

yeah, by doubling, tripling and even quadrupling fees and reducing services. His excuse is that fees have been stagnant for so long, it made sense to bring them up to parity. Know who this doesn’t help? The poor who pay more for consumer goods and services because businesses never ever pay taxes and fees, they pass those costs on to the customers.

Fees and taxes are just different words to describe the intercept at which govt takes monies, but the net result is always the samw — the tax payer gets it in the end.

AH_C on September 1, 2011 at 1:16 AM

Romney balanced the Massachusetts budget + ran a surplus with a 85% Democratic legislature..and he didn’t need stimulus funds to do it…

therightwinger on August 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM

PS. I call BS on the surplus vis a vis the stimulus.
1) it wasn’t available then, yet devalued Patrick raked the finds in hand over fist and asked for more when other states declined to avail themselves of their “share” of the stimulus loot.
2) Mittness ran a surplus by getting Teddy hic Kennedy to funnel USA taxpayer dollars to fund the shortfall.

Hey TRW, guess what? To this day and evermore, you and I will be paying for RomneyCare with our $$$, even tho we’ll never benefit from it unless we move there.

I guarantee you if we knew half the things about Mittness, he’d be DOA before the 08 primaries kicked off. It just took time for all the negatives and unintended side effects to percolate up.

AH_C on September 1, 2011 at 1:26 AM

FIFY

Southernblogger on August 31, 2011 at 9:09 PM

That’s just wrong, even for a recovering Huck supporter…

Gohawgs on September 1, 2011 at 1:28 AM

If Freedom Works is concentrating on opposing guys like Hatch and Romney before we take out Obama and Reid/Durbin/Schumer, they are just nuts.

Even Stalin understood that you hold off on the purges until your side has firm control.

And wisdom would indicate a merciful attitude would serve the longer term interests of conservative governance best. Purging people like Bob Bennett, who had a 90 lifetime ACU rating, over a single vote (TARP) might make some sense in Utah where there were no Democrats who could possibly take the seat, but in most of the country that just isn’t the case. Running off the “RINOs” (being defined currently as “someone who has EVER voted or made a statement that some conservative doesn’t like” – a standard worthy of Uncle Joe Stalin) will mean that many of the seats we now see as safe or strong leaners will become competitive or even lost causes.

So the question boils down to, “Do you want to change the country’s direction, or would you rather be sure everyone on your side is pure?”

You cannot possibly have both.

Adjoran on September 1, 2011 at 1:34 AM

Neither one of those groups represent me. The tea party is not an organization.

Ronnie on August 31, 2011 at 11:09 PM

I can assure you none of these groups represent the Tea Party in NM. The Tea Party and supporters are fully capable of making the assessments of candidates, and only support those who support the defined conservative values.

SheetAnchor on September 1, 2011 at 1:58 AM

You cannot possibly have both.

Adjoran on September 1, 2011 at 1:34 AM

Republicans were the majority in the US Senate, the US House and occupied the WH in 2001. What happened? Not smaller gov’t. Not making “tough” choices for the good of America. Not following the Republican Party platform. Nope. Instead we got bigger gov’t, focus groups, and the beginnings of an economic collapse.

Did you know that the Bush Admin asked, every year, for the mechanism — installed under Carter and enlarged under Clinton — that eventually helped lead to the crash in ’08/’09 be removed but the R Congress did not move on such a reform? Some say they were afraid of the dem proganda machine and afraid of being called racists if they did so.

My point is this, if the R’s holding office won’t do the things necessary to reduce the size of our debt, the size of our deficit and the size of our Federal Govt then yes I wan’t them voted out of office and replaced with those that say they will do those things…

Recent history shows everyone that will look that a few “moderate” R’s will join with the dems to pass some “historic” piece of legislation. Snowe with obamacare, McCain with too many to list, etc…

Gohawgs on September 1, 2011 at 3:22 AM

swamp_yankee on August 31, 2011 at 9:52 PM

PYTHON PERRY ! (with two heads)

stenwin77 on September 1, 2011 at 6:02 AM

This is exactly what I feared would happen.

The tea party is becoming that which they rallied against.

An ideological that seeks power, even if they. have to sell their soul to get it.

Pcoop on September 1, 2011 at 7:07 AM

Adjoran on September 1, 2011 at 1:34 AM

AMEN!

Pcoop on September 1, 2011 at 7:09 AM

This is exactly what I feared would happen.

The tea party is becoming that which they rallied against.

An ideological that seeks power, even if they. have to sell their soul to get it.

Pcoop on September 1, 2011 at 7:07 AM

sorry. That should read:

An ideological movement that seeks power eve if they have to sell their soul to get it.

Pcoop on September 1, 2011 at 7:10 AM

The Tea Party Express will end up winning that argument eventually on “anybody but Obama” grounds, but I admit to being surprised that they’d accommodate Mitt right now, at a moment when he’s increasingly desperate to fend off Perry by shoring up his own conservative cred.

It is not enough to say who you are standing against.

You must say what you stand for and who you stand with as part of that.

You cannot say you stand for something and then not say what it is you stand for. By saying they will stand with anyone against Obama they have not clearly stated what they are willing to stand for… that is a major problem with TPE as it becomes a de facto negative based movement, not one that espouses positive ideals. That is 20th century politics writ large, not 21st century small government politics, and far from being a winner it is a losing proposition.

I can say that all but the Tranzi-Right stand against Obama. Fine and dandy, and even the Tranzis are having a hard time staying with him.

What do you intend on replacing that ideology WITH? What is it you seek and espouse? Because it is hard to see either Hatch or Romney as espousing small government as they have had years to say that is what they want and are silent on that issue. Who you are standing with tells me much, much more than who you are standing against.

ajacksonian on September 1, 2011 at 7:34 AM

Freedom Works can go straight to hell.

Falz on September 1, 2011 at 8:24 AM

Would we be glad if leftist groups started acting like Freedom Works? Of course we would! Freedom Works is making the Tea Party movement look fanatic and dumb in most voter’s eyes. It undermines our chances of defeating Obama in the election. I doubt that the Tea Party Express should have done an event with Romney, but sometimes you are stuck with your ally’s decisions, and the best response is to turn a blind eye or at most issue a bland demurral.

thuja on September 1, 2011 at 8:30 AM

“We have to defend our brand against poseurs,” Steinhauser said.

Whatever anyone thinks of hatch and romney, the brand does not belong to freedom works, a group made up of republican operatives and an ex-congresssman who had thier entire careers to fight washington but instead were enthusiastic participants. This is the republican party trying to exert control over indepenant tea party groups.

peacenprosperity on September 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM