Krauthammer: Let’s face it, Boehner should have let Obama speak on the night of the GOP debate

posted at 7:52 pm on August 31, 2011 by Allahpundit

Simple logic: When your opponent’s in the process of making a mistake, get out of his way. Krauthammer’s theory is that letting The One address Congress that night would have made him look petty (or rather, pettier than usual) while setting up the GOP field for a sweet Obama pile-on at the debate immediately afterwards. I’ll add another reason — by sharing the headlines with the Republican primary the next morning, the political reach of the speech would have been minimized. That’s especially true if two of the candidates get in an argument or something else worthy of cable-news rotation happens. O’s taking a bigger risk by trying to compete with the debate than he would be by giving the speech on Tuesday night.

Even so, I disagree for two reasons. One: The debate won’t be any more of an Obama pile-on after the speech than it would be if there was no speech at all. Perry and Romney are going to hammer O on jobs because that is, after all, their core message. And then they and Bachmann are going to hammer each other because they are, after all, competing for the nomination and looking to weaken each other. If the debate follows the speech, maybe you’ll get 30 minutes of Obama-bashing instead of 20 minutes. Not significant. Two: I actually don’t want Obama to have to compete for media attention on this. My expectations for the speech are sub-zero but the risk of a new recession is so grave that if the president wants our full attention on it, he should have it. It’s easily the biggest challenge facing the country right now; if a joint address to Congress is a step towards legislation that’ll start the economy growing again, then let’s do that without any political distractions. Of course, if The One thought the same way, he never would have asked to speak opposite the debate in the first place. So why did he? Read this post if you missed it a few hours ago.

According to Chuck Todd, the White House and Boehner’s office are chatting now about a new date and time. Stay tuned. Click the image to watch.

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Oh, my goodness.

Somebody’s gonna tell Boehner — and it’s gonna be a Republican — it’s gonna be a member of the Republican pundit class, somebody in the intelligentsia, some people smarter than we are, somebody is gonna write a piece or post a blog and say, “Mr. Boehner, you are going to send the independents running right back to Obama if you don’t grant him this speech, ’cause all the American people care about right now is jobs.

That’s from Rush’s show this afternoon. Dr. K, you know I like you, but just stop.

KingGold on August 31, 2011 at 7:55 PM

I agree. Like Ed said, let him shoot himself in the foot.

G. Charles on August 31, 2011 at 7:56 PM

The Rep candidates should MST3Kd Obama’s speech, or maybe play a drinking game.

29Victor on August 31, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Two: I actually don’t want Obama to have to compete for media attention on this. My expectations for the speech are sub-zero but the risk of a new recession is so grave that if the president wants our full attention on it, he should have it. It’s easily the biggest challenge facing the country right now; if a joint address to Congress is a step towards legislation that’ll start the economy growing again, then let’s do that without any political distractions.

Well said. Let’s see if Obama can live up to the enormous expectations he has set upon himself.

Key West Reader on August 31, 2011 at 7:58 PM

I think Obama needs a subtle reminder – he’s not king even though he thinks he is.

Good for Boehner for saying no.

gophergirl on August 31, 2011 at 7:58 PM

It’s easily the biggest challenge facing the country right now; if a joint address to Congress is a step towards legislation that’ll start the economy growing again, then let’s do that without any political distractions.

Having released what it’s about to Stephanopolous, there’s nothing new, nothing different…

This is but his restart of the reelection. Period. For Carney to say that “it’s not political” says all we need to know.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 7:59 PM

95% of the time I agree with Charles K, but this time I am not so sure. Obama was being a jerk plain and simple and I think Congress is getting tired of him ordering them around.

That’s from Rush’s show this afternoon. Dr. K, you know I like you, but just stop.

KingGold on August 31, 2011 at 7:55 PM

He has a right to his opinion and he is no Obamabot. I think he really thinks this was a mistake.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Having released what it’s about to Stephanopolous, there’s nothing new, nothing different…

This is but his restart of the reelection. Period. For Carney to say that “it’s not political” says all we need to know.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 7:59 PM

That’s exactly it – he’s going to blame Bush, blame the Republicans, blame the Tea Party, spend money we don’t have and not make one dang bit of difference.

gophergirl on August 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM

This time next week, there will be a hurricane off the East Coast (Katia) and a storm/hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico (Lee). Barack’s speech will be upstaged by this. Watch and see.

SouthernGent on August 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Obama Spent $535 Million on Solyndra Solar Energy Firm in 2010; Firm Went Bankrupt Today…

tetriskid on August 31, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Agreed on let him speak about his job plan at the time and place of his choosing. It would be like casting PeeWee Herman in King Lear. Box Office Gold!

Limerick on August 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

if a joint address to Congress is a step towards legislation that’ll start the economy growing again, then let’s do that without any political distractions.

Maybe if they took a step towards removing some legislation (cough) obamacare (cough) burdensome regulations (cough), but I don’t see new legislation helping anyone but federal employees and their unions.

WitchDoctor on August 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Any of you losing your panties over the Krauthammer speech…watch the whole thing. He rips Carney and Obama, for good reasons. Don’t lose your cool over one sentence.

The media, see the Assoc. Press on topic, are already crawling deeper into Obama’s anus over this…

Don’t help them out. Good on Boehner to have written such a cool letter. For once he displayed steely ones.

This thuggary will not be beaten with niceties.

Obama will not present a job plan. He’ll present a path to attack all of you. Period.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

He has a right to his opinion and he is no Obamabot. I think he really thinks this was a mistake.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM

He’s a Washington insider who views everything EVERYTHING! through a political lens.

Some things are just wrong, and this is one of them.

Good for Boehner.

fossten on August 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

if a joint address to Congress is a step towards
legislation that’ll start the economy growing again, then let’s do that

ahaha…. good one.

spinach.chin on August 31, 2011 at 8:03 PM

This is but his restart of the reelection. Period. For Carney to say that “it’s not political” says all we need to know.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Krauthammer said the same thing. That was why I was kind of surprised at what else he said.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:03 PM

The day of ignoring the jerk in the White House is over…if you don’t think so…just wait. The next year is going to be the most bare knuckles politics most have ever seen. It is time!

d1carter on August 31, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Two: I actually don’t want Obama to have to compete for media attention on this. My expectations for the speech are sub-zero but the risk of a new recession is so grave that if the president wants our full attention on it, he should have it. It’s easily the biggest challenge facing the country right now; if a joint address to Congress is a step towards legislation that’ll start the economy growing again, then let’s do that without any political distractions.

I hope that was sarcasm. The man doesn’t have a clue about how to help a capitalistic economy get rolling again, or he doesn’t want to. He’s proven it over and over, with his Porkulus disaster, and with his hyper-regulation that is strangling any hope of a hint of a recovery.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Any of you losing your panties over the Krauthammer speech…watch the whole thing. He rips Carney and Obama, for good reasons. Don’t lose your cool over one sentence.

The media, see the Assoc. Press on topic, are already crawling deeper into Obama’s anus over this…

Don’t help them out. Good on Boehner to have written such a cool letter. For once he displayed steely ones.

This thuggary will not be beaten with niceties.

Obama will not present a job plan. He’ll present a path to attack all of you. Period.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Yes, indeed.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:06 PM

This is but his restart of the reelection. Period. For Carney to say that “it’s not political” says all we need to know.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 7:59 PM

And a big F U to the Congressional GOP and especially Boehner by asking them sit there and listen to it on national television.

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:07 PM

The man doesn’t have a clue about how to help a capitalistic economy get rolling again, or he doesn’t want to. He’s proven it over and over, with his Porkulus disaster, and with his hyper-regulation that is strangling any hope of a hint of a recovery.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Then by all means let him do it on all six major outlets 24/7/365.

Limerick on August 31, 2011 at 8:07 PM

I was wrong. CK is right… for once.

faraway on August 31, 2011 at 8:07 PM

It is nothing short of demonstrating through his preempting of the debate, that he is more powerful than any Republican candidate at the debate.

Why the Republican Party can’t stick together on this and stand up to him is why the Republicans can’t even command respect from their own party members.

hawkdriver on August 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

while setting up the GOP field for a sweet Obama pile-on at the debate immediately afterwards.

Dr. K is forgetting who’s moderating this debate. Brian Williams will do handstands before asking any questions about King Barry’s speech.

Knucklehead on August 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

“Mr. Boehner, you are going to send the independents running right back to Obama if you don’t grant him this speech, ’cause all the American people care about right now is jobs.

..BRAVO SIERRA! I am not a big fan, but Boehner played it perfectly! He wrote a calm and dignified letter to the petulant Boy-King saying that there were real logistical reasons as to why he could not hold the speech then. (They had a vote going down at 1830L and it took three hours to properly sweep down the building prior to the POTUS coming over. That was S.O.P.

It was not a petty turf battle on Boehner’s part but it did show what how undisciplined and passive aggressive this pantload-of-a-president really really is.

The War Planner on August 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Lately, when the President speaks about the economy, no one listens except the stock market, which then proceeds to nosedive when he’s done talking. Yet, his advisors think a prime-time address will be successful. Rove, you magnificant….

joejm65 on August 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Boehner’s “I’m sorry, but security can’t be finished in time. Wish I could help. Want to talk about other dates” was a shrewd response.

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Sorry Dr. K but I think you are wrong on this one. Boehner made the right call especially after Carney’s stupid cackling remarks. He had to put his foot down on Carney’s snoot

clnurnberg on August 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

And a big F U to the Congressional GOP and especially Boehner by asking them sit there and listen to it on national television.

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Indeed, good one, indeed.

However, the people don’t care any more what he says. This emperor is nakid, nakid, ugly nakid.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

I want all attention on Obama’s speech, because I know, based on experience, it will be another epic fail.

This entire incident has been a win for Republicans.

1. Obama’s request of that day and time shows he is either completely out of touch with what is happening in the country or crassly playing partisan politics. It would be nice to have a reporter ask him if he reads any newspapers.

2. Holding the speech on that day upstages former First Lady NNancy Reagan, who is the official hostess of the Reagan Library debate (as announced back when they first made it known there would be a debate). Smooth move being mean to an elderly widow of one of the most beloved former presidents.

3. The ensuing push-back over dates makes people ask “why now?” This helps us because it both highlights that Obama just came off yet another vacation and it reinforces that the man is always blathering on the tube with no results.

4. He’s showing a complete lack of regard for the millions of people, many of whom are independents, who are actually interested in the GOP candidates. By trying to distract from the GOP debate he’s going to make them wonder what it is they have to say that has him so scared.

The only way this would be a bigger win for us is if Nancy Reagan herself got on the tube and asked the President why he was trying to step on the memory of her beloved late husband by upstaging the debate being held in his library.

Y-not on August 31, 2011 at 8:10 PM

He has a right to his opinion and he is no Obamabot. I think he really thinks this was a mistake.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:00 PM

He’s a Washington insider who views everything EVERYTHING! through a political lens.

Some things are just wrong, and this is one of them.

Good for Boehner.

fossten on August 31, 2011 at 8:02 PM

I happen to agree with Boehner here myself. But just because Charles Krauthammer is a Washington insider does not mean he is not right a lot of the time. He has been right about Obama far more than he has been wrong. I mean come on, half the pundits on radio and TV are insiders and that includes the ones on the right. It is their job.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Boehner’s “I’m sorry, but security can’t be finished in time. Wish I could help. Want to talk about other dates” was a shrewd response.

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Especially only a few days ahead of the 10-years anniversary of 9/11/01.

Schadenfreude on August 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Boehner’s “I’m sorry, but security can’t be finished in time. Wish I could help. Want to talk about other dates” was a shrewd response.

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Unfortunately, nobody will hear about it. The media will tell the old, weak, and uninformed millions that Boehner stopped our first Black president from addressing the nation for the first time ever.

faraway on August 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Then by all means let him do it on all six major outlets 24/7/365.

Limerick on August 31, 2011 at 8:07 PM

I’m with ya. Let Mr. Articulate expose himself for the charlatan that he is. The more you know…

Even his most ardent supporters are starting to see the light…

Sunlight being the best disinfectant and all, as our Boss Emeritus would say.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

The media will tell has been telling all night

faraway on August 31, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Dr. K is forgetting who’s moderating this debate. Brian Williams will do handstands before asking any questions about King Barry’s speech.

Knucklehead on August 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Wasn’t he the guy who bowed to Obama?

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM

The speech about jobs will be just that, a speech. Any politician that can create a job will be a government job paid for by our tax money. The government produces nothing, NOTHING. The private sector are the ones that employ the jobs people seek. Remember when Clinton mandated more police? More police were added but the cities and towns were responsible to pay their salaries. He credited himself for adding jobs.

mixplix on August 31, 2011 at 8:14 PM

I happen to agree with Boehner here myself. But just because Charles Krauthammer is a Washington insider does not mean he is not right a lot of the time. He has been right about Obama far more than he has been wrong. I mean come on, half the pundits on radio and TV are insiders and that includes the ones on the right. It is their job.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Nobody’s saying he’s wrong all the time. I don’t see where I said that.

But being an ‘insider’ and filtering everything through a political lens can mean that you miss the boat occasionally. We see this more often out of people like CK, Kristol, and Fred Barnes. It’s part of the problem of being inside the beltway.

fossten on August 31, 2011 at 8:14 PM

I wonder if the White House had coordinated this date selection with NBC..?

d1carter on August 31, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Wasn’t he the guy who bowed to Obama?

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM

yes

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Lipstick.

Pig.

’nuff said.

Jugeared Jesus has let the narrative get far, far ahead of his bullshit blather.

We the people are eyes-wide-open, and we’ve had enough.

Go ahead full steam, Jugears; you’re gonna need a new shovel before long.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Nobody’s saying he’s wrong all the time. I don’t see where I said that.

But being an ‘insider’ and filtering everything through a political lens can mean that you miss the boat occasionally. We see this more often out of people like CK, Kristol, and Fred Barnes. It’s part of the problem of being inside the beltway.

fossten on August 31, 2011 at 8:14 PM

I was not aware that I did say you said he was wrong all the time. I am just saying that he is smart guy and he is often times right on issues like this. But no one is perfect. And I think that all political pundits tend to see things from a narrow perspective from time to time. They live, eat and breathe this stuff.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:17 PM

have sinking feeling that boehner will cave….crap

cmsinaz on August 31, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Just what Rush said the elite establishment repub media types would say. Rush is right again.

Kissmygrits on August 31, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Wasn’t he the guy who bowed to Obama?

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM

yes

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:15 PM

I thought so. Maybe this time he could sacrifice a Republican candidate to his God Obama. Why stop with bowing?

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM

switched over to msdnc…they are spewing this is so disrespectful of the president..OMG, pulled the race card out as well, natch

cmsinaz on August 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM

now anderson is claiming the speaker is snubbing the president…i don’t think so champ

cmsinaz on August 31, 2011 at 8:20 PM

switched over to msdnc…they are spewing this is so disrespectful of the president..OMG, pulled the race card out as well, natch

cmsinaz on August 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Of course.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:21 PM

I thought so. Maybe this time he could sacrifice a Republican candidate to his God Obama. Why stop with bowing?

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM

I wish one of the GOP contenders could work that incident into an answer to Williams.

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

KingGold on August 31, 2011 at 7:55 PM

ElRushbo knows this bunch like no one else.

Big Orange on August 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I have no idea why that post at 8:21 has a strike through it. I must have mistakenly hit the key. sorry.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

ElRushbo knows this bunch like no one else.

Big Orange on August 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Rush is not always right either.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Don’t worry. The WH will phone in the “correct” narrative to Morning Joe in the morning. Long live Chairman Mao Obama!/

kingsjester on August 31, 2011 at 8:24 PM

I thought so. Maybe this time he could sacrifice a Republican candidate to his God Obama. Why stop with bowing?

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM

I wish one of the GOP contenders could work that incident into an answer to Williams.

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Yes, put him on the spot. The little butt kisser.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:25 PM

I have no idea why that post at 8:21 has a strike through it. I must have mistakenly hit the key. sorry.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

You will never, ever be forgiven. You shameless evil troublemaker.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:25 PM

I have a feeling Krauthammer doesn’t think much about the candidates or the debate.

Kini on August 31, 2011 at 8:25 PM

have sinking feeling that boehner will cave….crap

cmsinaz on August 31, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Cave on what, exactly? The date of the speech? No one is gonna care about the date of the speech, because most people won’t be watching the speech. Unless America goes on a hiring binge the day after the speech, this joint session of Congress will be nothing more than a photo-op for Barky’s reelection campaign.

joejm65 on August 31, 2011 at 8:26 PM

I have no idea why that post at 8:21 has a strike through it. I must have mistakenly hit the key. sorry.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

You will never, ever be forgiven. You shameless evil troublemaker.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Oh no, I have really gone and done it this time.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:26 PM

How much do you want to bet that Obama’s speech will just be about raising taxes and little about jobs

Kini on August 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM

have sinking feeling that boehner will cave….crap

cmsinaz on August 31, 2011 at 8:18 PM

The secret service doesn’t cave on security,

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Oh no, I have really gone and done it this time.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:26 PM

That’ll learn ya, durn ya.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Cave on what, exactly? The date of the speech? No one is gonna care about the date of the speech, because most people won’t be watching the speech. Unless America goes on a hiring binge the day after the speech, this joint session of Congress will be nothing more than a photo-op for Barky’s reelection campaign.

joejm65 on August 31, 2011 at 8:26 PM

I think so too. I think that Boehner and Obama might come to some agreement, but I am not sure the Speaker will cave. I think he has already made his point.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Dr. K is forgetting who’s moderating this debate. Brian Williams will do handstands before asking any questions about King Barry’s speech.

Knucklehead on August 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Wasn’t he the guy who bowed to Obama?

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:13 PM

…And the guy that little Bammie joked about sleeping with him?

slickwillie2001 on August 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Oh no, I have really gone and done it this time.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:26 PM

That’ll learn ya, durn ya.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Yes Sir!!

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM

And the guy that little Bammie joked about sleeping with him?

slickwillie2001 on August 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Oh man, I did not need that thought in my head. Not at all.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:30 PM

How much do you want to bet that Obama’s speech will just be about raising taxes and little about jobs

Kini on August 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM

He would start on jobs and then shift into his campaign platform.

Blame Bush. Blame the House. Tax the rich. Hopey changey…

Wethal on August 31, 2011 at 8:31 PM

I would want the president to go first, then have a field day ripping him apart on his programs.
First line out of a candidates mouth…Too little, too late. Too little regard for the working man, and too late to try to show it…

right2bright on August 31, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Couldn’t they just scroll the teleprompter on a split-screen during the debate?

Ronnie on August 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM

I agree with Krauthammer on this because I would like to see the rating between Obama speech and the debate. There is no risk if Obama has a better rating than the debate. While he lose almost everything if his rating is below the Republican debate.

High reward with little to no risk for the Republicans. I’ll call his buff.

jdun on August 31, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Another point in favor of having the debate after the speech – it will cut down on the post-speech analysis/fawning.

Ronnie on August 31, 2011 at 8:34 PM

How much do you want to bet that Obama’s speech will just be about raising taxes and little about jobs

Kini on August 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM

I’ll bet a dollar to a dry donut that it’ll be all about assigning blame somewhere –anywhere — else; and then some mumbo-jumbo about the infrastructure, which Porkulus was supposedly going to address with all of the shovel-ready shizzle.

There may even be some more razzle-dazzle about the “housing crisis” which frakkin’ Frank and dopey Dodd created, and exacerbated, in the first place.

In other words, there is nothing new under the sun.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:34 PM

obama coming out and announcing he wants the joint session already makes him look petty. not giving him that date makes the GOP look strong. they are willing to tell the president no when he acts like a petulant spoiled child. dr. k is wrong way more often than he is right.

chasdal on August 31, 2011 at 8:38 PM

…And the guy that little Bammie joked about sleeping with him?

slickwillie2001 on August 31, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Oh man, I did not need that thought in my head. Not at all.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Yep, Radio & TV Correspondents Ass’n dinner, June 2009:

Obama Jokes About Brian Williams At Radio TV Dinner

slickwillie2001 on August 31, 2011 at 8:39 PM

I would bet money that Brian Williams has at least one of those Barack Obama d1 ldos. Question is: in red or green?
I say red.

carbon_footprint on August 31, 2011 at 8:40 PM

obama coming out and announcing he wants the joint session already makes him look petty. not giving him that date makes the GOP look strong. they are willing to tell the president no when he acts like a petulant spoiled child. dr. k is wrong way more often than he is right.

chasdal on August 31, 2011 at 8:38 PM

It just makes him look so petty and silly. I mean this is the kind of thing Presidents do for important or momentous occasions. Not just for some political game.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:42 PM

obama coming out and announcing he wants the joint session already makes him look petty. not giving him that date makes the GOP look strong. they are willing to tell the president no when he acts like a petulant spoiled child. dr. k is wrong way more often than he is right.

chasdal on August 31, 2011 at 8:38 PM

I agree wholeheartedly.

It’s time someone told the Won that he won an election; he was not anointed King Of All, no matter his illusions of grandeur.

hillbillyjim on August 31, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Have to agree that I don’t it will matter which day the speech is on. No one will be watching except those that might tune in to see what the President wants to do TO us…as opposed to what does he want to do FOR us. The two Obama voters we had in the family already gave up on him and the rest of us never watched right from the get go.

lynncgb on August 31, 2011 at 8:45 PM

So the debates are scheduled to run at what, 8:00 EST? So Obambi comes on at 8:16 and starts bloviating for about 30-40 minutes or so, that leaves what, an hour or less left for the GOP debate coverage?

I’m sure that NBC will cut coverage of the debate to cover the Presidential speech to Congress correct?

Its an outright attempt of the WH and Obambi to cut into the GOP candidates time on the air, so that they will cover his BS instead.

This is sickening at the least, disgusting.

RedbonePro on August 31, 2011 at 8:45 PM

oops… I don’t think it will matter…I’ll preview next time

lynncgb on August 31, 2011 at 8:47 PM

This joint session stuff is nothing more than a set up.

Not ONLY for Republicans but the WHOLE Congress, heck all THREE branches for that matter.

He’s going to stand up there and SCOLD them all for not getting anything done!

THEN blame them all of next year and say he tried, he REALLY tried… blah blah blah…

I hope they walk out when he starts the Ryan treatment

golfmann on August 31, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Rush is not always right either.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Name one time he was wrong.

fossten on August 31, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Does anyone expect anything much of Obama’s speech? I don’t. I predict a bunch of government programs, and government spending of money that we don’t have. And probably a demand that we raise taxes so that there is a “balanced approach” to the whole jobs thing. Obama couldn’t create a job if Jesus, Himself, descended from the heavens with a plan all written out and signed by God. O would figure he knew better.

hachiban on August 31, 2011 at 9:01 PM

The Hammer has a broken handle. If someone isn’t of the establishment and I can’t believe that Boehner isn’t that Kraut does nothing but bad mouth them. It’s time that Boehner stand up to this Soros puppet and say no. No one is going to listen to the crap coming out of Obama’s mouth anyway. It’s a set up for Obama to lambast the GOP and make an hour long campaign speech without having to pay for TV time.

flytier on August 31, 2011 at 9:01 PM

I understand the idea, but there is principle here. Obama cant get what he wants just because he wants it. Rather short notice dont you think? Why didnt obummer clear the dates with the Speaker before obummers last vacation? its politics clear n simple. Tell the jerk NO.

ColdWarrior57 on August 31, 2011 at 9:04 PM

I’m just wondering what would have happened if the GOP rescheduled the debate for the hour after Obama’s address, and then Obama did another of his famous empty podium tricks until just before the end of the hour.

Socratease on August 31, 2011 at 9:07 PM

I have this vision of the GOP debate being shown split screen with the president’s address to the joint session, only the president is 50 minutes late and what we see is an empty podium with the presidential seal on one side and spirited debate about the future of our country on the other.

piglet on August 31, 2011 at 9:10 PM

i think the principle/protocol more or less has to trump here. Barry is not king. Congress is not parliament nor the Chicago Board of Aldermen. I know that barry/leftists think that dissing the country’s institutions fires up their base…but that’s no reason that Congress should go along…divided government and all that.

politics is a low sport to the left..bi-partisanship is just a word.

r keller on August 31, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Name one time he was wrong.

fossten on August 31, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Operation Chaos.

Knucklehead on August 31, 2011 at 9:24 PM

the risk of a new recession is so grave that if the president wants our full attention on it, he should have it.

Remember who the president is right now. Whatever he proposes will make the problem worse.

It’s easily the biggest challenge facing the country right now; if a joint address to Congress is a step towards legislation that’ll start the economy growing again, then let’s do that without any political distractions.

Except that it won’t. I’m puzzled as to why you of all people would say that after your predictions this morning of what the speech will contain and your other comments in this very post, as well as the stimulus and ObamaCare and all his other policy adventures.

What it boils down to is the economy needs deregulation to grow (yes, I’m oversimplifying, but you can’t deny that that’s true.) All Obama wants to do is continue regulating. Why would a speech of his stimulate growth when the agenda laid out in the speech is completely counter to growth?

OneGyT on August 31, 2011 at 9:26 PM

A reminder of the last little Bammie stimulus program: Obamanomics Memorial Stadium

Can he outdo that?

slickwillie2001 on August 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Allah does indeed make an interesting point, in that Obama’s speech is going to suck, so why bother. I guess we could have gone either way. It’s still a dickish move.

joeindc44 on August 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Rush is not always right either.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:23 PM

No you are correct. None of us is always right. Care to compare/contrast his record with Krauthammer,Will,and prissy pants Noonan?

arnold ziffel on August 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM

I happen to agree with Boehner here myself. But just because Charles Krauthammer is a Washington insider does not mean he is not right a lot of the time. He has been right about Obama far more than he has been wrong. I mean come on, half the pundits on radio and TV are insiders and that includes the ones on the right. It is their job.

Terrye on August 31, 2011 at 8:11 PM

If Krauthammer were a baseball player, his batting average would be below the Mendoza lie during the rule of Obama. He occasionally gets a single here and there but mostly strikeouts and pop-ups.

darwin-t on August 31, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Rush is not always right either.

Terrye

He hit the bullseye today though, didn’t he?

xblade on August 31, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Name one time he was wrong.

fossten

Operation Chaos.

Knucklehead

Nope. Try again.

Just to be clear, I have no doubt he has been wrong before, but OC isn’t one of those times.

xblade on August 31, 2011 at 9:54 PM

How much do you want to bet that Obama’s speech will just be about raising taxes and little about jobs

Kini on August 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM

He’s going to attempt rebranding himself from the green energy caliph to a version of FDR. Win the Future with a New Deal!
Sure, it’s laughable, but at this point he needs a new fairy tale.

a capella on August 31, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Let’s face it, even though he still has an occasional stroke of brilliance, Krauthammer is at essence a small and silly man.

Lon Chaney on August 31, 2011 at 11:02 PM

It’s never easy disciplining a small petulant child.

Lon Chaney on August 31, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Yeah, I think the better option here was to let O shoot himself in the foot.

A separate consideration is the show of abject weakness it is for the Obama White House to launch this silly move with would-be clever fanfare, and then back down.

A central premise has been lost, which is that the president should have the privilege of preempting other events. He shouldn’t misuse that privilege, which Obama was certainly doing here — but it is a prerogative appropriate to the office, and we should think twice about the long-term consequences of embarrassment on that head.

The whole world is watching for signs of weakness from Obama, because he and he alone can make the use of US power purposeful and effective. No one else but the president can do that. For the momentary satisfaction of seeing Obama’s bluff called, we may get a lot more trouble than anyone bargained for. A president whose bluff looks so call-able is a really, really bad thing to be saddled with for another 16+ months.

J.E. Dyer on August 31, 2011 at 11:07 PM

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