Perry on Obama: How “smart” do you have to be to let the economy get this bad?

posted at 6:12 pm on August 30, 2011 by Allahpundit

From this afternoon’s Hannity radio show, the inevitable comeback to the dumb “Is Perry dumb?” meme, echoing the same point made by the boss emeritus on Fox. What makes this reply so effective, of course, isn’t merely that it puts O on the defensive about his greatest vulnerability; it’s that it plays into a broader public contempt for all things D.C. Have a look at this Gallup survey published yesterday. When asked whether they viewed 25 different industries positively or negatively, respondents rated the federal government dead last at just 17 percent favorable. That’s lower than banking and — gasp — the legal field, and not just a tiny bit lower, either. The split on banking was 30/47 and on the legal field it was 29/45. For the federal government, it was … 17/63. Other polls make clear that it’s public disgust with Congress that’s driving that number much more so than disapproval of The One, but I don’t think anyone inside the Beltway is spared at this point from the populist perception that these people don’t know what they’re doing. Which, needless to say, is good news for a guy like Perry who’s framing himself as an anti-Washington southern populist. Whatever his eventual campaign slogan ends up being, the subtextual slogan for him and every other Republican will be, “Vote GOP. At this point, what do you have to lose?” So much for the “dumb” meme.

If you’re in a hurry and can’t listen to it all, skip to the very beginning of the second clip to hear him respond to the Daily Caller’s piece today about his letter to Hillary in 1993 commending her for her efforts on HillaryCare. His defense, basically, is that he sent that early in the process, before the law fully took shape and he realized how horrible it was. And in fairness, if you read it, it does sound more like he’s lobbying her on behalf of a core constituency (he was state agricultural commissioner at the time) rather than dashing off a fan letter about how super keen the new health-care plan would be. He’s going to get hit for it anyway at the debates, but it’ll have to come from Bachmann rather than Romney given Mitt’s much deeper exposure on health-care reform. And if Bachmann starts throwing punches on health care, it’ll be bizarre (policy-wise, not strategically) if she ends up focusing on Perry rather than the RomneyCare elephant in the room.

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Hmm, even as an undeclared candidate Palin was supposed to have an arsenal of policy statements and speeches at her command. Remember how often Rove, Krauthammer and their ilk crowed about lack of her policy chops even though arguably she had the biggest policy platform of all? Even Kimberley Strassel said she has nonexistent policy agenda.

Well, Rick Perry is a declared candidate and the ostensible frontrunner now. Why don’t the same people demand he talk about policy?

I am beginning to have a lot of contempt for the Republican Party and it’s establishment. What the left says about it is true. They are a hotbed of sexism and hypocrisy.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Palin is not scared of the media. She hates their guts, as she should.

Schadenfreude on August 30, 2011 at 7:00 PM

No, I think part of the reason is she’s afraid of coming off looking bad. Just like Perry is.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:01 PM

And I’ve said in the past that Palin needed to get more into hostile media territory, and I say the same thing about Perry. I’m not all the impressed by Palin going on Hannity, and I’m not all that impressed by Perry doing the same thing. Heck, Bachmann used to LIVE on there. He’s going to have to take the media on, just as Palin would if she were a candidate. Avoiding them is just going to give rise to “he’s afraid of messing up” stuff.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 6:42 PM

In the short time that Perry has been in the spotlight he’s done interviews for Time, Newsweek, and the BBC in addition to local and conservative outlets.

That Hot Air didn’t dedicate a thread to them does not mean they didn’t happen.

Hollowpoint on August 30, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Knucklehead, have you ever suggested that Palin was scared of the media?

MeatHeadinCA on August 30, 2011 at 6:58 PM

No, I’ve only posted that she kills puppies and kittens, that’s she’s a tramp, that she dresses like a floozy, that she gets super secret info when she wears her hear up and stuff like that/

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM

In the short time that Perry has been in the spotlight he’s done interviews for Time, Newsweek, and the BBC in addition to local and conservative outlets.

That Hot Air didn’t dedicate a thread to them does not mean they didn’t happen.

Hollowpoint on August 30, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Meet the Press, Face the Nation, This Week, Fox News Sunday…

You know damn well that if Palin declares tomorrow and doesn’t go on those programs the following Sunday, you’d be saying how she’s avoiding them out of fear.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Perry is the man in charge of his agenda.

Palin is the woman in charge of her agenda.

The media, the Obama-azzcrawlers, have only one agenda, to re-elect their inept and destructive princeling. May they suffocate from what they eat, what they dwell in.

Schadenfreude on August 30, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Hmm, even as an undeclared candidate Palin was supposed to have an arsenal of policy statements and speeches at her command. Remember how often Rove, K
It’s rauthammer and their ilk crowed about lack of her policy chops even though arguably she had the biggest policy platform of all? Even Kimberley Strassel said she has nonexistent policy agenda.

Well, Rick Perry is a declared candidate and the ostensible frontrunner now. Why don’t the same people demand he talk about policy?

I am beginning to have a lot of contempt for the Republican Party and it’s establishment. What the left says about it is true. They are a hotbed of sexism and hypocrisy.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Hey guess what, this is a Perry thread, please put down the crackpipe or head back over to C4P.

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:06 PM

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Nice victim card!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2011 at 7:06 PM

So in 1993 (twenty years ago) when public sentiment was ‘mixed’ over Saint Hillary’s health care initiative, trying to have some influence over the out come of that debate disqualifies you from participating in this debate about this version of Government Managed Health Care for all, for free, especially to those who really, really need it?

Skandia Recluse on August 30, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Hmm, even as an undeclared candidate Palin was supposed to have an arsenal of policy statements and speeches at her command. Remember how often Rove, Krauthammer and their ilk crowed about lack of her policy chops even though arguably she had the biggest policy platform of all?

Take it up with Rove, Krauthammer, and their ilk – you may find those people aren’t too popular here.

MeatHeadinCA on August 30, 2011 at 7:08 PM

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Nice victim card!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2011 at 7:06 PM

No victim card. It’s the truth. As is

Hmm, even as an undeclared candidate Palin was supposed to have an arsenal of policy statements and speeches at her command. Remember how often Rove, Krauthammer and their ilk crowed about lack of her policy chops even though arguably she had the biggest policy platform of all? Even Kimberley Strassel said she has nonexistent policy agenda.

We’re just subjecting Perry to the same standard.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:09 PM

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Whatever you say!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2011 at 7:10 PM

So in 1993 (twenty years ago) when public sentiment was ‘mixed’ over Saint Hillary’s health care initiative, trying to have some influence over the out come of that debate disqualifies you from participating in this debate about this version of Government Managed Health Care for all, for free, especially to those who really, really need it?

Skandia Recluse on August 30, 2011 at 7:07 PM

It wasn’t all that “mixed”. It led to the GOP takeover of Congress the next year.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Perry is the man in charge of his agenda.

Palin is the woman in charge of her agenda.

The media, the Obama-azzcrawlers, have only one agenda, to re-elect their inept and destructive princeling. May they suffocate from what they eat, what they dwell in.

Schadenfreude on August 30, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Well said, and the network Sunday morning programs do not have the same clout, credibility or viewership that they once had.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Meet the Press, Face the Nation, This Week, Fox News Sunday…

You know damn well that if Palin declares tomorrow and doesn’t go on those programs the following Sunday, you’d be saying how she’s avoiding them out of fear.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:03 PM

No, I wouldn’t. However, she’s been in the national spotlight for over 3 years and given her 59% disapproval rating she’s clearly not done a very good job at connecting with the general public.

It’s expected that a candidate might want to take it slow in the early stages. If he wins the nomination, I would hope and expect him to engage with the “lamestream media” that St. Sarah (pbuh) has spent so much time both whining about and avoiding.

Hollowpoint on August 30, 2011 at 7:12 PM

No, I wouldn’t.

Hollowpoint on August 30, 2011 at 7:12 PM

LOL, riiiiiight.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:13 PM

If he wins the nomination,

Hollowpoint on August 30, 2011 at 7:12 PM

What? You mean voters shouldn’t see more of him in the media BEFORE he wins the nomination?

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM

that St. Sarah (pbuh) has spent so much time both whining about and avoiding.

Hollowpoint on August 30, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Heh…it’s a smart move for Perry to “avoid” the media, but not St Sarah (pbuh), even though she hasn’t been a candidate for anything since 2008.

I rest my case.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:19 PM

I think the GOP got scared by Trump spike but also realized that they needed to tap a candidate who can be Trump-like on the field and also play ball with the establishment. Didn’t the NRO chick say we needed Trump but somebody more presidential? Hence, they drafted Rick Perry in. Point though even though he land some punches on Obama(which is no hard feat), he doesn’t seem to have any understanding of the government and no policy agenda. He’s just a greasemonkey for a few crony capitalists.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Evidently “The Smartest Man in the World” is pretty damned dumb.

But that’s understandable. It’s also known that “he could fix everything, but he get’s bored easily.”

GarandFan on August 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

I think the GOP got scared by Trump spike but also realized that they needed to tap a candidate who can be Trump-like on the field and also play ball with the establishment. Didn’t the NRO chick say we needed Trump but somebody more presidential? Hence, they drafted Rick Perry in. Point though even though he land some punches on Obama(which is no hard feat), he doesn’t seem to have any understanding of the government and no policy agenda. He’s just a greasemonkey for a few crony capitalists.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM

They? As in Rove and co? Get out.

MeatHeadinCA on August 30, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Posted elsewhere:

Obama isn’t dumb, just look at his college transcripts!

Chip on August 30, 2011 at 7:27 PM

he doesn’t seem to have any understanding of the government and no policy agenda.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Please don’t be so sure unless you read his stance on every issue you would ever care to know about.

From a non-partisan source.

Rick Perry on the Issues.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

He’s just a greasemonkey for a few crony capitalists.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Everyone has their opinion of him. But what is interesting is that he does spark a good conversation of what people do want out of their government and leaders. His experience and success can certainly be discussed and disected, all the while, being a benchmark point for what people want to see in a presidential candidate. It’s refreshing to have that casual conversation about a viable contender like Perry, as opposed to mentioning Palin and most just burst out laughing.

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

It’s refreshing to have that casual conversation about a viable contender like Perry, as opposed to mentioning Palin and most just burst out laughing.

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Now you’ve done it. Here, you can borrow my kevlar vest.

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:32 PM

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

It should be very interesting to discuss Perry’s dabbling in porn and shady land deals. After doesn’t everybody want to dabble in sex and easy money?

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Rick Perry on the Issues.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Opining about issues is different from policy platform. Obviously, Perrykrishnas don’t grasp the difference.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Now you’ve done it. Here, you can borrow my kevlar vest.

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Kinda O/T. I just found out the other day that Chicago PD does not provide kevlar vests to their force, they have to buy them on their own. I had no idea. Did you know that?

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:37 PM

When asked whether they viewed 25 different industries positively or negatively, respondents rated the federal government dead last at just 17 percent favorable. That’s lower than banking and — gasp — the legal field, and not just a tiny bit lower, either.

Double ouch, then, for us government lawyers…. (I’m trying to find a different job, I promise.)

acasilaco on August 30, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Kinda O/T. I just found out the other day that Chicago PD does not provide kevlar vests to their force, they have to buy them on their own. I had no idea. Did you know that?

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Yes I did, they also have to buy their own weapons and ammo. My ex was a Chicago cop.

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:41 PM

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:36 PM

There seems to be a lot you don’t grasp..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2011 at 7:43 PM

There seems to be a lot you don’t grasp..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Well, yes, I don’t grasp double standard and group think :)

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Like maggots.

CW on August 30, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Yes I did, they also have to buy their own weapons and ammo. My ex was a Chicago cop.

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:41 PM

That completely surprises me. I just assumed they were given equipment as standard issue. Just recently met a wife of a cop and she told me it is one tough life. I can’t even imagine.

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Palin is not scared of the media. She hates their guts, as she should.

Schadenfreude on August 30, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Tough as nails.

CW on August 30, 2011 at 7:50 PM

That completely surprises me. I just assumed they were given equipment as standard issue. Just recently met a wife of a cop and she told me it is one tough life. I can’t even imagine.

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Why do you think I’m divorced?

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Why do you think I’m divorced?

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 7:52 PM

You are divorced? Now that explains a lot of your behavior and your bitterness.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM

OK, to settle all of this bickering about Palin vs. Perry…we all know Palin is gutsy…but Perry has balls! End of discussion!

BadMojo on August 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

You are divorced? Now that explains a lot of your behavior and your bitterness.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Uncalled for. You should apologize immediately.
A gentleman would not have said that.

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Opining about issues is different from policy platform. Obviously, Perrykrishnas don’t grasp the difference.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Not a Perrykrishna you stupid, petulant, f*cking child.
You give Palin a bad name, you insect.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

You are divorced? Now that explains a lot of your behavior and your bitterness.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Unbelievable. You should be ashamed.

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Uncalled for. You should apologize immediately.
A gentleman would not have said that.

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

You obviously have mistaken it for a gentleman.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Unbelievable. You should be ashamed.

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

You obviously have confused it with something that has feelings and class.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:01 PM

You are divorced? Now that explains a lot of your behavior and your bitterness.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM

You mean it wasn’t the behavior that explains the divorce? *rolls eyes… We see you for whom you are. And it’s ugly.

MeatHeadinCA on August 30, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Chauncey the Gardener is smarter than Obama.

Schadenfreude on August 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM

You mean it wasn’t the behavior that explains the divorce? *rolls eyes… We see you for whom you are. And it’s ugly.

MeatHeadinCA on August 30, 2011 at 8:05 PM

I have the measure of you too. Don’t need no strictures from you. Thanks.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM

I have the measure of you too. Don’t need no strictures from you. Thanks.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM

So, given a chance to apologize for bad behavior, you lash out as someone else, instead?

You have been measured.

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 8:17 PM

So, given a chance to apologize for bad behavior, you lash out as someone else, instead?

You have been measured.

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Spare me your nonsense. If anything, I’m waiting on apologies from a lot of people.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 8:23 PM

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:00 PM

*yawn*

Is that the best the leftie talking point email had for you today?

Midas on August 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Spare me your nonsense. If anything, I’m waiting on apologies from a lot of people.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Really? What hateful, un-gentlemenly things have been said about you?

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Really? What hateful, un-gentlemenly things have been said about you?

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 8:26 PM

*raises hand*

Not a Perrykrishna you stupid, petulant, f*cking child.
You give Palin a bad name, you insect.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

But I am just SO frustrated quarreling with the ‘nistas over Perry when Palin would be my first choice if she were running. It is tiresome.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:31 PM

But I am just SO frustrated quarreling with the ‘nistas over Perry when Palin would be my first choice if she were running. It is tiresome.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Not so concerned about the attacks on Palin…

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

My sources tell me that Barack Obama’s SAT’s were 472 in the verbal and 431 in the math. Perry’s can’t be lower than that.

Lon Chaney on August 30, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Not so concerned about the attacks on Palin…

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

You can easily go back and see my ample defense of Palin from ’08 to ’10. If she runs, I will support her and defend her. She is not running.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Not so concerned about the attacks on Palin…

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

BTW, I quit coming to the site for several months after bumping heads with Allah over his cherry-picking Palin hit pieces and not posting her positive pieces.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Not so concerned about the attacks on Palin…

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Even CW called me out as a ‘nista as recently as last week.
However, being a Perry and Palin fan, I can say without hesitation that I have received more crap from ‘nistas than Perry fans. You children are brutal.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

However, being a Perry and Palin fan, I can say without hesitation that I have received more crap from ‘nistas than Perry fans. You children are brutal.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

This is the best satirical piece I’ve ever seen.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Trump got under O’s skin and look how vindictive and petty O trated him to his face at the correspondant’s dinner. He is a vile, petty little man when he’s crossed.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on August 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

And in fairness, if you read it, it does sound more like he’s lobbying her on behalf of a core constituency (he was state agricultural commissioner at the time) rather than dashing off a fan letter about how super keen the new health-care plan would be. He’s going to get hit for it anyway at the debates, but it’ll have to come from Bachmann rather than Romney given Mitt’s much deeper exposure on health-care reform. And if Bachmann starts throwing punches on health care, it’ll be bizarre (policy-wise, not strategically) if she ends up focusing on Perry rather than the RomneyCare elephant in the room.

I think he was doing the usual lobbying stuff we can expect from government officials.

I doubt if it will be that big a deal..and if it is it might not be the health care part of it that matters, they might make an issue of that fact that Perry did not switch to the Republican party until 1989. There might some connections there between Clinton and Gore and Perry. Just something to nag him about party loyalty.

Terrye on August 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Even CW called me out as a ‘nista as recently as last week.
However, being a Perry and Palin fan, I can say without hesitation that I have received more crap from ‘nistas than Perry fans. You children are brutal.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Even CW called you out? ROTFLMAO!

He is one of the most deranged PDS sufferers on HotAir.

Are you new here?

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

This is the best satirical piece I’ve ever seen.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

And you, promachus, are the biggest child of them all. All one has to do is look at your comments posted just above. You have raised the ire of people on all sides with your child-like behavior. You were called out by several, including myself.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Are you new here?

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Been here since ’06 and a reader since the beginning.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Been here since ’06 and a reader since the beginning.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Well let me ask it this way…

How closely have you’ve been following CW’s comments the last few months?

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Posted elsewhere:

Obama isn’t dumb, just look at his college transcripts!

Chip on August 30, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Nooooooooo. Really? Posted elsewhere?

This is a joke, right?

GrannyDee on August 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Well let me ask it this way…

How closely have you’ve been following CW’s comments the last few months?

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Yes, he is brutal against ‘nistas. However, I corrected him and he has not been annoying to me since. I can not say that about the handful of you ‘nistas. It’s like anytime I write something supporting Perry you jump on me as a Perrykrishna or whatever. It is childish and stupid. There are many of us here who support Perry and Palin. It is not that much of a stretch; they are allies.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 9:04 PM

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 8:54 PM

It’s all about retaliation

We’ve been doing it in retaliation and very open about it too. Now people like you stopped trolling the Palin threads, nobody would care about the stupid Bachmann or Perry. They hardly get 50 hits as it is.

So, will you stop posting in Palin threads?

promachus on August 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM

I have no idea who this “we” it’s talking about is and who wants someone to “promise not to go in Palin threads”?

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Well let me ask it this way…

How closely have you’ve been following CW’s comments the last few months?

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM

And look, the sparring is just tiresome. If Palin announces in a week, we will be on the same exact side. If she announces she is not running and endorses Perry, then what? We have to keep our goal in mind; defeat Obama at any cost. I will support Romney over Obama. Bygones.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM

This is a very interesting comment:

We’ve been doing it in retaliation and very open about it too. Now people like you stopped trolling the Palin threads, nobody would care about the stupid Bachmann or Perry. They hardly get 50 hits as it is.

So, will you stop posting in Palin threads?

promachus on August 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM

Juxtaposed with the TOU of this blog:

We will, however, usually do so if you post something that is, in our good-faith opinion, (a) off-topic; (b) libelous, defamatory, abusive, harassing, threatening, profane, pornographic, offensive, false, misleading, or which otherwise violates or encourages others to violate these terms of use or any law, including intellectual property laws;

So, I’m not in charge of the ban-hammer, but I’m not sure I’d openly admit to violating them, and then keep doing this…

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

And look, the sparring is just tiresome. If Palin announces in a week, we will be on the same exact side. If she announces she is not running and endorses Perry, then what? We have to keep our goal in mind; defeat Obama at any cost. I will support Romney over Obama. Bygones.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Heck, I would support anyone over Obama…

But Perry needs to be vetted. He’s only announced over a week ago, and the American people needs to where he stands, how strong he stands, and what his views are. They are just starting to pay attention, and I have no problem if Perry is vetted the same way Palin was vetted over the last three years.

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Heck, I would support anyone over Obama…

But Perry needs to be vetted. He’s only announced over a week ago, and the American people needs to where he stands, how strong he stands, and what his views are. They are just starting to pay attention, and I have no problem if Perry is vetted the same way Palin was vetted over the last three years.

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Agreed, and as a Texan I can honestly say that Perry’s terms have been low key. Meaning, he has not been in the news enough over the past decade to point out that he is controversial or over-reaching. His Gardisil, TTC and border issues are an exception. And low-key and non-involved in freedoms and lives of the public is not a bad thing for conservatives.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Juxtaposed with the TOU of this blog:

We will, however, usually do so if you post something that is, in our good-faith opinion, (a) off-topic; (b) libelous, defamatory, abusive, harassing, threatening, profane, pornographic, offensive, false, misleading, or which otherwise violates or encourages others to violate these terms of use or any law, including intellectual property laws;

So, I’m not in charge of the ban-hammer, but I’m not sure I’d openly admit to violating them, and then keep doing this…

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

After all the abuse and crap I’ve seen here for the 3 years or so I’ve been registered, banning promachus for THAT would be beyond petty. What about csdeven, CW, MJBrutus, etc etc? What about Knucklehead’s little out-of-context games?

And yeah, “retaliation” (i.e., holding naysayers to the standards and rules THEY set) is indeed a big part of it.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 9:28 PM

So in 1993 (twenty years ago) when public sentiment was ‘mixed’ over Saint Hillary’s health care initiative, trying to have some influence over the out come of that debate disqualifies you from participating in this debate about this version of Government Managed Health Care for all, for free, especially to those who really, really need it?

Skandia Recluse on August 30, 2011 at 7:07 PM

And don’t forget, Perry’s a Secret Muslim (TM) !!!

YehuditTX on August 30, 2011 at 9:47 PM

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 9:28 PM

I’m not advocating banning-for-disagreement; I just thought it made an interesting point about the tactical suppression of opposing thought.

Suppression is for lefties.

massrighty on August 30, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Every Congressman is a goner except mine. That’s how the vast majority of voters think and that’s what causes a 97% reelection rate among the slime.

If we could just get rid of that one Congressman, we’d be all set.

Mr. Grump on August 30, 2011 at 10:01 PM

You ever read the homegrown editorials of newspapers in Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio? Our journalists are as left as any in the business. The Houston Comical reminded us every day that he would not sit before their gilded editorial board prior to the last election and he cruised past their darling Bill White. It was hilarious.

DanMan on August 30, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Good for him. More Republicans should refuse to support the corrupt liberal media. I’d even like to see the candidates sign a pledge.

slickwillie2001 on August 30, 2011 at 10:04 PM

Oh yes, I lived in Dallas for 11 years. I know too well how biased the Texas media is.

Pro tip: when I use “Rick Skerry” with a comment, I am being facetious. I am a supporter.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 6:23 PM

I have never said that. Remember, I am a Palin fan. You forget that.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 6:39 PM

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bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 10:20 PM

One thing I will say is that I don’t see how some people says that the way Perry talks will be some sort of problem. I hadn’t heard him before recently, but the way some people were going on I expected him to sound like Gomer Pyle. Sounds to me he has a good Tennessee accent. ;)

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 10:23 PM

I have never said that. Remember, I am a Palin fan. You forget that.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 6:39 PM

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bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Actually, I like Perry too. I’d crawl over broken glass to vote for him against Obama. I just like rubbing Palin-bashers’ noses in their double/shifting standards.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 10:32 PM

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:01 PM

This business about Gov. Perry or Palin being afraid of the media.
Don’t you have anything else to do than rant on people?

They avoid the MSM for the same reason people avoid rattlesnakes.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 10:35 PM

It wasn’t all that “mixed”. It led to the GOP takeover of Congress the next year.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Well, I’m shocked. That’s the most sane thing I’ve seen from you.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 10:42 PM

The federal government should be an asterisk afterthought in matters economic. Then we’d all be a lot better off. Government has constitutional duties that it should attend to. Quit trying to run the world Uncle Sam.

Mojave Mark on August 30, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Well, I’m shocked. That’s the most sane thing I’ve seen from you.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 10:42 PM

I’m capable of lucid moments. I’ll lay off the perceived Perry-bashing now.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 10:54 PM

I’m capable of lucid moments. I’ll lay off the perceived Perry-bashing now.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Thanks, I need a break:-)

Just for the record. I support SP & Perry.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM

The federal government should be an asterisk afterthought in matters economic. Then we’d all be a lot better off. Government has constitutional duties that it should attend to. Quit trying to run the world Uncle Sam.

Mojave Mark on August 30, 2011 at 10:51 PM

That’s the way it should be. But greed and the lust for power is too great for many.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 11:04 PM

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bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Perry since he is running.
If Palin gets in, I will fully support her.
I like them both.

carbon_footprint on August 30, 2011 at 11:07 PM

It’s refreshing to have that casual conversation about a viable contender like Perry, as opposed to mentioning Palin and most just burst out laughing.

sherry on August 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Says the ’08 and current Mittbot…

Gohawgs on August 31, 2011 at 2:14 AM

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM

A line too far…

Gohawgs on August 31, 2011 at 2:28 AM

No simply “spluttering” nonsense over a letter written in 1993, before anyone knew what the hell Hillary was up to in all those secret meetings she had.

Knucklehead on August 30, 2011 at 6:30 PM

What conservative with an IQ above 80 expected anything good to come out of Hillary and her health care plan?

That has to be the weakest argument I’ve heard in a while. Perry was quite obviously either a true believer in socialized medicine or a political opportunist. Most likely the latter.

There Goes The Neighborhood on August 31, 2011 at 2:51 AM

You keep thinking Perry will have a Katie Couric moment..Good luck in your quest!..:)

Dire Straits on August 30, 2011 at 6:28 PM

No, that won’t happen, because no mater what he says, you’ll think it’s teh awesome!!!!! :)

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Perry won’t have a Katie Couric moment. To have a Katie Couric moment, you almost have to be a) a VP candidate, b) following the instructions of a hostile and/or incompetent campaign staff, and c) be told by the campaign staff to keep going back for hours of interviews even though you tell them it’s not going well and you should cut it short. Even then, the interviewer would have to be free to cherry-pick and edit the interview to make you look that bad.

No one at the top of the ticket would even consider going through hours and hours of a hostile interview by someone clearly hoping to trip you up.

This is probably the central reason why Palin is not likely to ever run as VP again. As long as she’s at the top of the ticket, she can make the interviewers behave.

And if you think that this is all just an excuse, then ask yourself if you’ve ever seen Palin have another interview like that since. It takes special circumstances that she’s not about to let happen again.

There Goes The Neighborhood on August 31, 2011 at 3:03 AM

Perry on Obama: How “smart” do you have to be to let the economy get this bad?

This should be used by ALL the R candidates, and then some…

Gohawgs on August 31, 2011 at 3:11 AM

Perry on Obama: How “smart” do you have to be to let the economy get this bad?

That’s so pitch perfect it makes the Dems wish they hadn’t brought the subject of dumbness up in the first place.

Perry’s ability to do this, to turn the attack back against the attackers, is why he can defeat Øbama and his Alinsky-ites.

petefrt on August 31, 2011 at 5:30 AM

When I saw this the other day I went and read the letter sent because the healthcare issue to me is a major trump card. Personally I believe the healthcare issue will be absolutely detrimental to the US gen pop not just economically but for the simply fact I think it will be the gateway to getting the majority of citizens hooked on some kind of pharmy. Imagine a America were 51% of the gen pop is either physically or mentally hooked on a pharmy provided by the gov. You just think the welfare, assisted living, disabled, ect. class vote lock step.

Either way my point was that after reading the letter my take aligned with the quote “And in fairness, if you read it, it does sound more like he’s lobbying her on behalf of a core constituency (he was state agricultural commissioner at the time) rather than dashing off a fan letter about how super keen the new health-care plan would be”.

Final take Perry sounded not keen on the hillarycare (more of a general compliment before asking for something), however the craven political back door tit for tat lobby trading is very disturbing.

Makes me a little hesitant on Perry. Lobbying/career politician, not good. We need a rock rib that will GUT yes I said GUT the fed waste and over-expansion. No more fake cuts that are really just decreases in the planned expansion. Real cuts, real gov shrinking, and deregulation.

C-Low on August 31, 2011 at 9:22 AM

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