Oh my: Perry 41, Romney 12, Paul 11, Bachmann 9

posted at 7:30 pm on August 30, 2011 by Allahpundit

I know, I know: It’s a Zogby poll. But c’mon. I had to blog it. Just because I knew that headline would rock your world.

He’s not leading by this much. But he is leading, comfortably.

If you believe Zogby, Michele Bachmann had a 20-point lead on the competition back on June 30th, which pretty well sums up the credibility of this one. The broader trends do make sense, though — Perry’s entry into the race devastated his tea-party competitors and stole a few points from Romney while leaving Ron Paul and his worshipers basically untouched. (An interesting footnote: Romney still polls slightly better head-to-head against Obama (45/40) than Perry does (46/44).) Nor is this the only good poll for Perry today. Gallup’s new measure of “positive intensity” shows he’s gained a few points there too and now leads all current candidates by double digits except for Herman Cain, who’s become a nonfactor. No surprise, then, to hear that Mitt has suddenly reconsidered and decided to participate in DeMint’s South Carolina forum after all; he simply can’t afford the “above the fray” strategy anymore. Says John Ellis, “Once Labor Day has passed, there will be five debates, in quick succession, on the GOP presidential candidates’ calendars. These will be important tests for Perry. If at the end of two or three, it’s clear that he’s every bit the equal of Mitt Romney on matters of policy and politics, then the Perry juggernaut becomes all but unstoppable.” Could be, which is why Romney will no longer cede any campaign territory to him. He needs to stop this advance now.

Don’t despair, though, Mitt fan(s). Perry’s allegedly not a dynamite debater, and of course Palin might still get in and bleed tea-party votes from him. And then there’s this, which will affect campaign branding in all sorts of ways:

Looks like it’s a little more popular to be a liberal or a progressive these days, although conservative remains the best political label you can put on a candidate for public office. Being linked to the Tea Party is the biggest negative…

Considered a positive political label by 29%, 43% now think Tea Party is a negative description for a candidate. That’s a net rating of negative 14, making it the worst thing you can call a candidate. Twenty-three percent (23%) put it somewhere in between…

The partisan divided on the Tea Party label is perhaps predictable: 56% of Republicans see it as a positive, while 70% of Democrats think it’s a negative. Voters not affiliated with either party also now regard Tea Party as a negative label by a 42% to 25% margin.

Which far left, conservative-hating pollster is responsible for those numbers? Why … Scott Rasmussen. This isn’t the first time we’ve seen the tea party’s numbers plunge lately either. Polls from Pew and CNN shortly after the debt-ceiling deal found the movement’s unfavorables up sharply. It’ll be fascinating to see how Romney handles that in the primary, knowing that the “tea party” label is still a net plus for Republicans but a net minus in the general election. Can he make an electability argument against a tea-party nominee, or is that too risky lest he alienate core conservatives whom he’ll need against Obama on election day?

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Silly, silly… Don’t you know that the real nominee will be Huntsman???

kringeesmom on August 30, 2011 at 8:23 PM

God forbid!!!

capejasmine on August 30, 2011 at 8:57 PM

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

I read the letter. That’s the problem with a lot of Tea Partiers, their newbies and idealists.

I fought HillaryCare tooth and nail back in 1993, and that truly was socialized medicine. ObamaCare doesn’t even have a public option.

No self-respecting Republicans or conservative would have called her efforts commendable, worthy and blather on and on to get their constituents a piece of the pork.

The fervor against HillaryCare was just as strong, and we defeated it. No thanks to shifty panders like Perry.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Debates won’t matter, Obama will dodge them…the last thing Obama wants to do is have a guy from one state, who has put more people back to work than the president has for the rest of the country…

right2bright on August 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Easy. Zogby lies about tea party support. The black caucus declares war on the Tea Party, and now this poll. They want to destroy it.
capejasmine on August 30, 2011 at 8:04 PM

First, Don’t blame the messenger. Zogby’s stats may be a bit off but I doubt it’s by much. Second, this meme that the Tea Party are raaacists is nothing new. Remember Breitbart’s $100,000 reward? And so on?

I agree. I’m against the TP Caucus. It is a negative and conflicts between the House Reps and their constituents. I don’t want any TP Caucus or MB representing me. That’s what I have a Rep for.
bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 8:13 PM

I tend to agree, but I don’t think this explains the swing away from the T.P. I think that the default talk scared voters and the Dems took that ball and ran with it.

nope. It happened because those elected went to Dc and become part of the establishment and many feel played. People want actions not words. Sadly the TEA party has devlivered nothing. they didn’t stop Obamacare, didn’t stop spending, didn’t stop the dems…
unseen on August 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

That may be the reason, but it’s an idiotic reason. How can the House of Reps, say, stop ObamaCare without the Senate and either the President or enough votes to override a veto? And the fact is that they (and the GOP in general) did halt the Dems march forward.

Anyone else?

Buy Danish on August 30, 2011 at 9:05 PM

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 8:57 PM

If he is chosen, will you support him?
If so, might as well start now…if not, than you are just a fool trying to get Obama elected again.

right2bright on August 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Michele Bachmann had a 20-point lead on the competition back on June 30th

I had forgotten that.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Everything from Romney’s campaign against Teddy in 1994 (17 years) , and Shannon O’Brien in 2002 (11 years) is fair game.

But not Slick Rick, the Gardisal mandating, HillaryCare supporting career politician is the guy to attack Obama on ObamaCare. /s

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Quite right. Rick Perry said on the Ingram show that healthcare is a state’s issue and Perry runs a state that has the highest uninsured.

Obama will say that he had to enact Obamacare because of states like Texas.

And Obama can easily attack Perry for taking Stimulus money to balance his budget deficit.

This will ultimately break the TEA Party now that they are aligning the brand with Perry.

It’s the height of hypocrisy when an organization was formed and one of the guiding principles was to be against Obama’s Stimulus Money and now they are championing a guy who took Obama Stimulus Money.

It makes the TEA Party brand phoney.

sheryl on August 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

I read the letter. That’s the problem with a lot of Tea Partiers, their newbies and idealists.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 8:57 PM

I’m glad you fought it along with many others. I did not have a computer at that time but listened to Rush about it. Also had kiddos in school and time was limited.

All I was trying to have you do is acknowledge that the letter Gov. Perry wrote was in the beginning of the HillaryCare proposal. The letter was not an endorsement of the “finished” product. His references clearly show that. You are trying to infer that he endorsed what the end proposal was, when in fact he was saying that Health Care Reform was a good thing. And it still is needed to be reformed.

He also said as much on Hannity’s radio show today.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

If someone were to ask me now, who I wanted for the Republican nominee for President, I’d still say Sarah Palin and will continue to say that until she says she’s not running or the deadline for her to enter the primaries is over, whichever comes first.

As of now, I don’t know enough about Perry to be either against him or enthused about him. I’ve heard snippets of speeches he’s made and they make me enthusiastic, but I’d like to see him in a debate just to see how he thinks on his feet.

What should be obvious to the other candidates is people are looking for someone with executive experience, who’s a conservative, and can put this country back together again. It appears the others haven’t shown anyone that, yet.

Vote Republican and only be called a racist one more time.

bflat879 on August 30, 2011 at 9:11 PM

If he is chosen, will you support him?
If so, might as well start now…if not, than you are just a fool trying to get Obama elected again.

right2bright on August 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Dont believe the hype. Obama’s only chance of winning is if Perry gets the nod. If the Perrywinkles cant handle it now, what do you think will happen when the full weight of the MSM, and the DNC come down on Perry.

Every poll shows Romney with a bigger lead over Obama than Perry. the only way to win is to get voters who voted for Obama last time to vote for the Republican this time. Its about swing voters, not red meat for the the southern evangelical base. Romney will expand the map. He will win NH, MI, PA, NV, CO and be competetive in places that Perry could never dream.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 9:12 PM

It makes the TEA Party brand phoney.

sheryl on August 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Wait until the REAL Tea Party candidate announces and see how that changes the polls…

OnlyOrange on August 30, 2011 at 9:15 PM

rockin’ it!

ted c on August 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:10 PM

I remember 93, shouting to anyone who would listen about Hillary’s ties to Saul ALinsky. None of this is new. Hillary from the get go was a radical. It didnt matter what the end product was. She was starting with nationalized health care.

History has been whitewashed. A lot of conservatives were suckered by Clinton and want to beleive the hype. But those first two years, before 94, he was every bit as radical as Obama for the times, and Hillary was the ideologue. Lani Guinier, Zoe Baird, Donna Shalala, gays in the military, nationalized health care.

Its was a 5 alarm blaze for conservatives. No conservative was calling Hillary’s efforts “worthy” and “commendbale”. None.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Dont believe the hype. Obama’s only chance of winning is if Perry gets the nod. If the Perrywinkles cant handle it now, what do you think will happen when the full weight of the MSM, and the DNC come down on Perry.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 9:12 PM

It won’t be pretty. The Perrykrishnas are ready to burn heretics at the stake here already.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Heck, I’ve seen stats here from Palin’s time as mayor of Wasilla.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Yeah one of those people, Ashley Tking, was objecting to her handling of dairy farm or something. A frigging dairy famr and hwas calling her a phony. Bet he’s on Perry’s bandwagon now and ll the instances of crony capitalism etc are all just swell.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 9:21 PM

unseen on August 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

That may be the reason, but it’s an idiotic reason. How can the House of Reps, say, stop ObamaCare without the Senate and either the President or enough votes to override a veto? And the fact is that they (and the GOP in general) did halt the Dems march forward.

Anyone else?

Buy Danish on August 30, 2011 at 9:05 PM

I agree. The House had no power to do much, other than vote on some of those matters. Also the Speaker should have stuck to the CCB.

I replied to another commenter here, which you may not have seen.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 7:54 PM <

The Tea Party Movement is still intact and have the same concerns. The issue is that these Organizations have sprung up and they may not speak for the Movement. I think they have tried to co-opt the local TP meetings, etc.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Perry is like the planet of pure evil in the Fifth Element

The more missles they fire the bigger and better his numbers

General to assistant: Do we have anything bigger than a 240?

http://youtu.be/n6oZTq_KsXc

windansea on August 30, 2011 at 9:29 PM

bflat879 on August 30, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Just a FYI. Some people that post here have an agenda and their comments reflect it when speaking of the Candidates. So be sure to verify their info. They make up stuff or post things out of context or things that are not true.

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Perry is like the planet of pure evil in the Fifth Element

The more missles they fire the bigger and better his numbers

General to assistant: Do we have anything bigger than a 240?

http://youtu.be/n6oZTq_KsXc

windansea on August 30, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Naw, He’s just a big ballon, and when it gets popped, it’s over.

idesign on August 30, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Amjean on August 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM

My thanks!

Remember, write down what you are looking for… I know my bare minimum checklist for support and won’t do a thing until I see someone meeting it. I cannot be enthused until I start to see that the idea that the size, scope and power of the federal government must be addressed towards making it much, much smaller. Until I see the policy, the plan of action and how to implement it…

*shrugs*

Being ‘better than Obama’ does not make one in any way, shape or form actually good. I’m not voting for a lesser of two evils… because we still head further down an evil path that way. It’s not about party, but Nation and we need someone who is actually good this time around, not this lessers business. That party stuff has gotten us to this point and it sure as hell won’t get us out of this mess if those 20th century games continue to be played. It’s time for a new game: reclaim your liberty, your freedoms and your rights from interference from government. I’m doing my part, now I want someone to wield a chainsaw Upon the Hill to do the other part of it… and it will be my vote to send someone up there who will start doing that… or get rid of them, no matter what their seniority, until competence is found.

ajacksonian on August 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Would you mind telling me who you are supporting to win the GOP nomination for it sure as heck is not Perry. Might it be Romney? :).

TheRightMan on August 30, 2011 at 9:42 PM

The more missles they fire the bigger and better his numbers

windansea on August 30, 2011 at 9:29 PM

That sounds exactly like a Clintonista, circa 1997.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Don’t despair, though, Mitt fan(s).

Heh heh.

Rational Thought on August 30, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Would you mind telling me who you are supporting to win the GOP nomination for it sure as heck is not Perry. Might it be Romney? :).
TheRightMan on August 30, 2011 at 9:42 PM

With the possible exception of Mitt Romney himself, no one is “supporting” Mitt Romney.

He has the same “core support” John McCain had: people who want every conservative candidate to lose.

logis on August 30, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Would you mind telling me who you are supporting to win the GOP nomination for it sure as heck is not Perry. Might it be Romney? :).

TheRightMan on August 30, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Here you go:

Every poll shows Romney with a bigger lead over Obama than Perry. the only way to win is to get voters who voted for Obama last time to vote for the Republican this time. Its about swing voters, not red meat for the the southern evangelical base. Romney will expand the map. He will win NH, MI, PA, NV, CO and be competetive in places that Perry could never dream.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 9:12 PM

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:53 PM

That may be the reason, but it’s an idiotic reason. How can the House of Reps, say, stop ObamaCare without the Senate and either the President or enough votes to override a veto? And the fact is that they (and the GOP in general) did halt the Dems march forward.

Anyone else?

Buy Danish on August 30, 2011 at 9:05 PM

that’s a cop out. All funding starts in the house. If the house wanted obamacare defunded it would be defunded. the simple matter is that when push came to shove the Tea party folded. they compromised with the dems and establishment gop on subject after subject. Now we can debate if that was the correct thing to do or not but by doing so they blunted the TEA party enthusaism and made many stop supporting them. Which IMO was what the establishment wanted to happen. The TEa party was elected to change things to fight the establishment both dems and gop and instead they became the establishment and simply morphed into GOP members. so if they are going to be gop members why have a TEA party?

unseen on August 30, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Every poll shows Romney with a bigger lead over Obama than Perry. the only way to win is to get voters who voted for Obama last time to vote for the Republican this time. Its about swing voters, not red meat for the the southern evangelical base. Romney will expand the map. He will win NH, MI, PA, NV, CO and be competetive in places that Perry could never dream.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 9:12 PM

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:53 PM

swamp_yankee is right about Romney doing well against Obama in the polls, though…and Romney has done so consistently. Since polls are so all-important, it’s clear that Romney is the candidate likeliest to beat Obama, and therefore should get our support.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 9:58 PM

History has been whitewashed. A lot of conservatives were suckered by Clinton and want to beleive the hype. But those first two years, before 94, he was every bit as radical as Obama for the times, and Hillary was the ideologue. Lani Guinier, Zoe Baird, Donna Shalala, gays in the military, nationalized health care.

Its was a 5 alarm blaze for conservatives. No conservative was calling Hillary’s efforts “worthy” and “commendbale”. None.

swamp_yankee on August 30, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Quite right again. The fact that Perry is excusing this because he didn’t know that it would be the monstrosity it became is as plausible as Obama saying he didn’t know that Rev. Wright said those vile things sitting in his church for 20 years.

Perry was a Democrat just 4 short years prior to this letter. Give me a break, socialized healthcare had been a tenet of the Democrats for years.

Also Perry was touting bi-national health insurance with Mexico in 2001.

Perry is using snake oil salesmen tactics to brush away this stuff and he gets more snake oil salesmen like the more his record comes to light.

sheryl on August 30, 2011 at 10:01 PM

The polls are fluid.
For those that have the ability to read between the tea leaves, this should come as no surprise.

http://twitter.com/#!/OurCount

CTSherman on August 30, 2011 at 10:03 PM

The Tea Party Movement is still intact and have the same concerns. The issue is that these Organizations have sprung up and they may not speak for the Movement. I think they have tried to co-opt the local TP meetings, etc.
bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:25 PM

I have made a similar complaint. I am not a fan of Tea Party Patriots in particular. They make demands, say who they will and will not endorse, and so forth. Who are they? They are not elected to anything themselves, appointed themselves to a position. This is a grassroots movement, and I don’t mind if they work to organize rallies and so forth, but it is highly presumptuous for them to claim to speak for others.

As to co-opting meetings, I can’t speak to that.

Buy Danish on August 30, 2011 at 10:04 PM

victor82 on August 30, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Sure-because in the end everything is always about ‘Sarah’.
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annoyinglittletwerp on August 30, 2011 at 10:04 PM

If the TEA Party is negative, and Perry identifies TEA party, how come he’s leading the poll with 41% ? Shouldn’t his TEA party affiliation be hurting him, shouldn’t he be running way behind Romney if the TEA party is so negative, and liberal progressives are so popular?

Yeah more spinning the TEA party, I get it.

Dr Evil on August 30, 2011 at 10:08 PM

bluefox on August 30, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Thank you very much, bluefox. I know I can always count on you to fish out the “political leanings” of most of our recent “conservative converts”. :).

TheRightMan on August 30, 2011 at 10:08 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on August 30, 2011 at 10:04 PM

Finally, you have got something right.

promachus on August 30, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Perry is like the planet of pure evil in the Fifth Element

The more missles they fire the bigger and better his numbers

General to assistant: Do we have anything bigger than a 240?

http://youtu.be/n6oZTq_KsXc

windansea on August 30, 2011 at 9:29 PM

People are going to get frustrated. Perry is like trying to nail jello to the wall. I look forward to the next debate, because it’s gonna be fun watching Mitt attack Perry, and Perry will parry ;)

Dr Evil on August 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM

People are going to get frustrated. Perry is like trying to nail jello to the wall. I look forward to the next debate, because it’s gonna be fun watching Mitt attack Perry, and Perry will parry ;)

Dr Evil on August 30, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Well, it’ll be interesting. I’m sure Perry will more than hold his own. I just want to find out more about the guy.

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 10:27 PM

^ But you know, listening to that interview on Hannity’s radio show, I don’t think Perry likes Romney very much. ;)

ddrintn on August 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM

If the TEA Party is negative, and Perry identifies TEA party, how come he’s leading the poll with 41% ? Shouldn’t his TEA party affiliation be hurting him, shouldn’t he be running way behind Romney if the TEA party is so negative, and liberal progressives are so popular?
Dr Evil on August 30, 2011 at 10:08 PM

You’re kidding right?

The partisan divided on the Tea Party label is perhaps predictable: 56% of Republicans see it as a positive, while 70% of Democrats think it’s a negative. Voters not affiliated with either party also now regard Tea Party as a negative label by a 42% to 25% margin.

Buy Danish on August 30, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Why should Perry like Romney even a little? When Romney was head of the RGA in 2006, he hired the consultant to then Independent candidate Rylander who was running against Perry for Governor. She was the Republican Texas Comptroller and mother of the Press Secretary for Bush, Scott McClellan who was one of the worst press secretaries ever but when your mother is a close family friend you tend to get a job. The bottom line that Romney as head of the RGA hired a consultant who works for the independent trying to take out a sitting Governor.

Rylander was supported by Bush 41 and behind the scenes Rove. Getting a picture here — those two with Romney have been trying to take out Perry for a long time. Romney endorsed Kay Bailey against Perry in 2010 for Texas Governor. So the two had Romney get involved in the Texas Governor’s primary as they tried to clear the path for Romney just in case Gov Perry might reconsider and get in the race.

I would vote for Ron Paul over Romney and cannot stand him. Romney and Huntsman are my last choices. Romney is nothing but stick a finger in the wind to see which way it is blowing and flip flops like Kerry as we just saw on global warming.

He needs to go build his $12M mansion after tearing down a 3,000 square foot house on the beach in LaJolla so he can enjoy his ‘unemployment.’

PhiKapMom on August 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM

He needs to go build his $12M mansion after tearing down a 3,000 square foot house on the beach in LaJolla so he can enjoy his ‘unemployment.’
PhiKapMom on August 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Oh ha ha ha yuk yuk yuk. How very clever of you./

Buy Danish on August 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM

I wonder how many of those 41% know that Perry was a Democrat who campaigned for Al Gore, or that he praised Hillarycare?

popularpeoplesfront on August 31, 2011 at 10:26 AM

Oh my, the liberals are having a good laugh about Perry.

popularpeoplesfront on August 31, 2011 at 10:46 AM

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F*ck you Perry.

Dave Rywall on August 31, 2011 at 12:42 PM

That may be the reason, but it’s an idiotic reason. How can the House of Reps, say, stop ObamaCare without the Senate and either the President or enough votes to override a veto? And the fact is that they (and the GOP in general) did halt the Dems march forward.

Anyone else?

Buy Danish on August 30, 2011 at 9:05 PM

BD, I’d say the only route available at this time is NOT to fund any part of obamacare. The House controls the purse. Defund what can be defunded and don’t allocate any monies for any part or implimentation of obamacare. And, don’t allow any backdoor money trails for obamacare in any piece of legislation…

Has The Spelunker of the House tried doing all these steps? I dunno. Will he going forward? That’s unclear…

Gohawgs on August 31, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Being ‘better than Obama’ does not make one in any way, shape or form actually good. I’m not voting for a lesser of two evils… because we still head further down an evil path that way. It’s not about party, but Nation and we need someone who is actually good this time around, not this lessers business.

ajacksonian on August 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Very true. But let’s not lose sight of the fact that we do need to make sure we beat this Marxist empty suit and his happy band of socialists (who strangely enough don’t want to admit they are socialists. Wonder why? But I digress…)

Ultimately, I would suggest that we as conservatives we want the best candidate we can muster. One who most accurately reflects our positions but yet one who can defeat the media-fueled demagoguery that we all know is coming. I read once that the Democrat starts with a fifteen-point edge due to the lockstep support he or she gets from the lamestream media. I also suspect this is the real reason the TEA Party is losing support. The media have relentlessly pushed an extremely negative narrative and many Americans are too lazy and too ignorant to actually look at the facts and make up their own minds.

But in the end, it’s all about putting up the best candidate we can who can also win. Is that Perry? I don’t know. I want to find out more about the man since I don’t know much about him. I like our slate of candidates – it gives us a slew of differing positions to choose from and most of the candidates seem to understand that we are in a financial crisis. All well and good. Now, which is the best standard-bearer to knock off President PResent? The primaries will hopefully tell us. Until then, let’s debate the candidates’ positions and ask them tough questions. That is what a primary season ought to be for in my opinion. And then let’s make an informed decision and (hopefully) choose the best one who can also WIN THE ELECTION.

StoneHeads on September 1, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Being ‘better than Obama’ does not make one in any way, shape or form actually good. I’m not voting for a lesser of two evils… because we still head further down an evil path that way. It’s not about party, but Nation and we need someone who is actually good this time around, not this lessers business.

ajacksonian on August 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM

(Sorry, forgot to mark ajackson’s comment in quotes)

Very true. But let’s not lose sight of the fact that we do need to make sure we beat this Marxist empty suit and his happy band of socialists (who strangely enough don’t want to admit they are socialists. Wonder why? But I digress…)

Ultimately, I would suggest that we as conservatives we want the best candidate we can muster. One who most accurately reflects our positions but yet one who can defeat the media-fueled demagoguery that we all know is coming. I read once that the Democrat starts with a fifteen-point edge due to the lockstep support he or she gets from the lamestream media. I also suspect this is the real reason the TEA Party is losing support. The media have relentlessly pushed an extremely negative narrative and many Americans are too lazy and too ignorant to actually look at the facts and make up their own minds.

But in the end, it’s all about putting up the best candidate we can who can also win. Is that Perry? I don’t know. I want to find out more about the man since I don’t know much about him. I like our slate of candidates – it gives us a slew of differing positions to choose from and most of the candidates seem to understand that we are in a financial crisis. All well and good. Now, which is the best standard-bearer to knock off President PResent? The primaries will hopefully tell us. Until then, let’s debate the candidates’ positions and ask them tough questions. That is what a primary season ought to be for in my opinion. And then let’s make an informed decision and (hopefully) choose the best one who can also WIN THE ELECTION.

StoneHeads on September 1, 2011 at 11:59 AM

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