Florida: Romney 28, Perry 21, Bachmann 13

posted at 1:30 pm on August 26, 2011 by Tina Korbe

As Allah reported yesterday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry appears to have a substantial lead in Iowa no matter which way you slice it. Polls from the right and left (not to mention a poll from explicitly Rick Perry people) show him with the edge over Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. But in Florida, at least, Romney hasn’t lost his frontrunner status:

According to a Sachs/Mason Dixon survey, 28 percent of likely Republican primary voters in Florida say they support Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who’s making his second bid for the GOP nomination, with 21 percent backing Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who earlier this month launched a run for the White House.

The poll indicates that 13 percent support Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, seven percent support former Godfather’s Pizza CEO and radio talk show host Herman Cain, five percent back former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and four percent support Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who’s making his third bid for the presidency. Everyone one else is in the low single digits, and 17 percent are undecided.

The survey’s release comes two and a half weeks before CNN teams up with the Tea Party Express, a leading national tea party organization, for a GOP presidential debate in Tampa, Florida on September 12. Florida is a very important state in presidential politics. The state’s primary date is not yet nailed down, but it’s most likely Floridians will vote early in the caucus and primary season. Florida’s also a crucial battleground state in the general election and Tampa will be the site of next year’s Republican National Convention.

Both Romney and Perry lead Obama in Florida, according to the poll, but Romney’s lead over the incumbent is a far more substantial eight points, compared to Perry’s one-point advantage over Obama.

If the question is whether Romney can afford to not compete in Iowa, perhaps this poll helps answer that question a little bit. Right now, Romney is facing criticism that he has already written off Iowa and South Carolina — but he can’t afford to ignore both. Which to focus on? As long as Romney retains a sure edge in Florida, it might actually behoove him to focus less on Iowa and more on South Carolina, where Perry is also the putative pack leader, but where Romney might stand more of a chance at success than in Iowa (at least, Rep. Tim Scott says he thinks Romney could win SC if he put in the effort).

But, of course, as AP pointed out yesterday, if Perry were to stomp Bachmann in a Romney-less Iowa, he would be even more formidable in South Carolina. And if Perry won so definitively in Iowa that he cleared the field of other conservatives, then Romney could even be threatened in New Hampshire. If Perry barely beats Bachmann, however, and Romney has built up strong support in South Carolina, then the Palmetto State primary would be an especially interesting match-up between fresh-off-a-New-Hampshire-victory Romney and fresh-off-an-Iowa-victory Perry.

P.S. If the primary calendar makes your head spin as it does mine, NBC has a helpful primer on the calendar chaos. Florida and Arizona are the rogues responsible for the confusion.


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This is why elections matter. I’m not a big Romney supporter but I wonder how strong Perry’s numbers actually are. Remember Rudy was a top tier candidate four years ago as well. What did that get him?

taney71 on August 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Palin will beat them all.

/Bishop

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM

This just proves Perry is unelectable and needs to get out of the race ASAP.

The Usual Suspects

Knucklehead on August 26, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Tina said:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry appears to have a substantial lead in Iowa no matter which way you slice it

Three points is a substantial lead?

Jon0815 on August 26, 2011 at 1:37 PM

This just proves Perry is unelectable and needs to get out of the race ASAP.

The Usual Suspects

Knucklehead on August 26, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Pot, meet kettle…

idesign on August 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Phfft. Everyone knows Florida is the weirdest state; they long ago surpassed California in that respect.

pseudonominus on August 26, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Romney is getting the Charlie Crist people. No surprise.

Really Right on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Just wait till Palin gets in..

/cultist

rotflmao

rickyricardo on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

But, of course, as AP pointed out yesterday, if Perry were to stomp Bachmann in a Romney-less Iowa, he would be even more formidable in South Carolina. And if Perry won so definitively in Iowa that he cleared the field of other conservatives, then Romney could even be threatened in New Hampshire. If Perry barely beats Bachmann, however, and Romney has built up strong support in South Carolina, then the Palmetto State primary would be an especially interesting match-up between fresh-off-a-New-Hampshire-victory Romney and fresh-off-an-Iowa-victory Perry.
P.S. If the primary calendar makes your head spin as it does mine, NBC has a helpful primer on the calendar chaos. Florida and Arizona are the rogues responsible for the confusion.

And of course when Palin enters the race this poll and all those strategies go out the window. I really don’t see the use of speculating on what Mitt or perry will do and which states they will campaign in until the feild is set. With big names like Palin and rudy still to make a decision the horserace and strategies and polls are pretty meaningless at this stage.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Three points is a substantial lead?

Jon0815 on August 26, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Mathematically it is, when you compare the 3 to all the others.

Time-line wise it is, since he just got in.

It w/b no different for anyone else.

Argue for your guys/gals, instead of harping illogically.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM

I really resent the fact that three states essentially decide who the nominee will be. Every primary should be on the same day.

TxAnn56 on August 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Romney is getting the Charlie Crist people. No surprise.

Really Right on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Lol. I think you figured it out.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Romneys been running for POTUS since 2008. Perry has been in for what 2 weeks? Pretty good numbers if you ask me. Of course as I have already stated I will vote for ham sandwich over Obama…..

sandee on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

rickyricardo on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Rent free…

idesign on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

The most glowing number is that 17 percent are undecided. More people are undecided than are for Bachmann, and almost as many for Perry

ConservativePartyNow on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Who’s this rickyretardo yutz?

Lanceman on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I don’t have any single preference so far among the leading candidates — I wrote, “leading candidates” not all the candidates and bystanders, too — but Romney HAS been waging an admirable campaign and I admire him for that.

I also disagree with some of his views but as to his campaign, he’s been steadily working his way through and I think he’s waging an admirable fight, so far.

Perry seems difficult to suppress, which is a good thing.

So, hat’s off to both of them, so far, for leading the good fight.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Campaigns matter. We’re still 5 months away from the first caucus, and lots of things can happen. If Perry continues to draw votes away from Bachmann, Bachmann might drop out before SC or FL and endorse Perry. If Perry beats Romney (without Bachmann in the race) in FL, it’s over, Perry is the nominee.

If the Perry campaign loses steam over the next 5 months, we could have a long primary season, with Perry winning deep-red states and Romney winning purple states, and if a third major candidate stays in (Bachmann, Palin?), we could reach the convention without anyone having a majority of delegates.

But this is for the primary voters to decide. Let Perry and Romney talk to them, and may the best man win!

Steve Z on August 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Romneys been running for POTUS since 2008 1968. sandee on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

FIFY

ConservativePartyNow on August 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Romney is getting the Charlie Crist people. No surprise.

Really Right on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

I’m sure he’s sewn up the Jeb Bush people too.

TxAnn56 on August 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Romneys been running for POTUS since 2008. Perry has been in for what 2 weeks? Pretty good numbers if you ask me. Of course as I have already stated I will vote for ham sandwich over Obama…..

sandee on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I agree with you – but I usually do :)

gophergirl on August 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM

With big names like Palin and rudy still to make a decision the horserace and strategies and polls are pretty meaningless at this stage.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Rudy is a good friend of Perry, who supported Rudy in 2008, and will be hacked over it on abortion/choice.

Rudy will not get in, will support Perry, and if Perry wins Rudy will be one of the best Attorney Generals in a looooong time. Holder needs to be in prison.

On Palin we agree. She’d change all their numbers…how is not certain.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM

I really resent the fact that three states essentially decide who the nominee will be. Every primary should be on the same day.

TxAnn56 on August 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM

I totally agree – one day to decide it all. Think of the money that could be saved for the general election

gophergirl on August 26, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Bachmann will have to make a decision as she continues to lose support to Perry.

Does she hang on to split the conservative vote and allow Romney to win or will she step out before it is too late and throw her support behind Perry?

TheRightMan on August 26, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Of course as I have already stated I will vote for ham sandwich over Obama…..

sandee on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Rush said he’d vote for an orange-soda can over Obama.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:46 PM

This is why elections matter. I’m not a big Romney supporter but I wonder how strong Perry’s numbers actually are. Remember Rudy was a top tier candidate four years ago as well. What did that get him?
taney71 on August 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Maybe a geographic factor? Floridians may have seen a larger share of good ol’ boy swagga candidates and are looking at politicians who (at least on the surface) seem to have some substance?

whatcat on August 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM

Who’s this rickyretardo yutz?

Lanceman on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Lucy’s dead husband.

idesign on August 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM

…I will vote for ham sandwich over Obama…..

sandee on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Hehe, that about sums things up as nicely as can be.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM

Perry/Rubio will take care of that QUICK.

Oink on August 26, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Everyone knows Florida is the weirdest state; they long ago surpassed California in that respect.

pseudonominus on August 26, 2011 at 1:40 PM

As a Californian, I am going to have to respectfully disagree. We have gotten soooooo weird, that even our earthquakes have relocated.

Mutnodjmet on August 26, 2011 at 1:49 PM

idesign on August 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM

I mean, all you see from this assclown is anti-Palin nonsense. Hell’s bells, even cdseven and hollowhead are more than one trick ponies.

Lanceman on August 26, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Hmmm. Maybe my vote in the Texas primary will count for something for once.

juliesa on August 26, 2011 at 1:50 PM

unseen, I commend you for providing thoughtful analyses, often facts, what if combinations/permutations, sources, even wishes, without generally attacking the other contributors.

No way to get spagti on board, but the others are winnable to any primary finalizer, but not with the brainless name-calling which a la Dave Rywall and ernesto.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Rudy will not get in, will support Perry, and if Perry wins Rudy will be one of the best Attorney Generals in a looooong time. Holder needs to be in prison.

On Palin we agree. She’d change all their numbers…how is not certain.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:45 PM

I don’t know his friendship with Perry might make it more likely he would get in as he would most likely take votes from mitt and therefore help Perry and Palin. And if he is looking for VP instead of AG? He would be looking to increase is name and cache.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM

which a la Dave Rywall and ernesto

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Giuliani was mentioned earlier, and the citing is apt. Remember, his strategy centered on just a few key states, most particularly on Florida. Romney is being backed into a strategy much the same with Perry’s late entry.

But the press is on the case, and is looking very hard at Perry. If they find some mud they’ll throw it, early and often. So Romney might be on the ropes a little but there is a very long way to go. All this breathless attention to every poll and every news cycle might be how a good blog works but it isn’t how a political campaign ycle plays out. As long as Romney can pay the bills he’s in the race.

MTF on August 26, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Momentum could be a factor too. If Perry wins Iowa, does well(i.e. 2nd place) in New Hampshire, and wins South Carolina, he could surge in Florida and pull off a victory there. Plus I think Romneycare will hurt Mittens with senior voters once Perry and Bachmann start to turn their attention to that and away from Obama(at least momentarily).

Doughboy on August 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM

C/b, but he would be in just to influence, to strengthen his choice, not to win. He has no chance to win this. His time would have been in 2004, the closest to 9/11/01.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Waiting for Palin to endorse Perry.

I’ll bring a mop if that happens.

Bishop on August 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Florida has many a working-class person and it’s clear why Romney and Perry would be preferred there by many of those: jobs.

Anyone with a “corporations are bad” and “Capitalism is wrong” message — so much as a suggestion of such — doesn’t fare well among populations who recognize the importance of continued paychecks and self-sufficiency through available employment. Romney AND Perry appeal to that and very important an appeal that is.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 1:54 PM

Everyone knows Florida is the weirdest state; they long ago surpassed California in that respect.

pseudonominus on August 26, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Hey, I resemble that remark. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to take my parrot for a walk.

RadClown on August 26, 2011 at 1:54 PM

“Well, let’s see. There’s ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there’s never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but….

- Sarah Palin

rickyricardo on August 26, 2011 at 1:54 PM

Interesting how Ed Rollins hasn’t been shooting his mouth off about Perry, seeing as Rick’s entrance has pretty much ended Bachmann’s campaign.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Perry’s reputation at retail politics is legendary and I feel pretty confident that will be evident in the Iowa caucuses and he will trounce Bachmann. Florida will be hard fought if the Bush’s are aligned with Romney.

cartooner on August 26, 2011 at 1:56 PM

“He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin’ sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed.”

-Sarah Palin

rickyricardo on August 26, 2011 at 1:57 PM

I really resent the fact that three states essentially decide who the nominee will be. Every primary should be on the same day.

TxAnn56 on August 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Excellent point. I don’t mind Florida having a major influence, because it’s the biggest swing-state in the country (CA always votes Democrat, TX always votes Republican), but primary voters in other major swing-states such as OH, PA, MO, VA, CO, and WI should have their say in who is most likely to beat the Democrat. Why should IA and NH have such influence with only 10 electoral votes between them?

It may not be possible to get 50 (57?) states to agree on a primary day, but the parties could try to make rules whereby all primaries are within a three-month window, such as February/March/April or March/April/May, so that the early primaries don’t have too much influence.

Steve Z on August 26, 2011 at 1:58 PM

All this breathless attention to every poll and every news cycle might be how a good blog works but it isn’t how a political campaign ycle plays out. As long as Romney can pay the bills he’s in the race.

MTF on August 26, 2011 at 1:52 PM

No kidding. We won’t have a final candidate for many months to come. All I see now is a lot of wish casting.

idesign on August 26, 2011 at 1:58 PM

/b, but he would be in just to influence, to strengthen his choice, not to win. He has no chance to win this. His time would have been in 2004, the closest to 9/11/01.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

agreed but his entry will shake up the polls and thus the strategies which was my orginal point. the polls and strategies will depend on the final field more so then who are leading at this point.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM

I really resent the fact that three states essentially decide who the nominee will be. Every primary should be on the same day.

TxAnn56 on August 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM

You’re so right. Also, no campaigning except 6 months ahead of election day, and maybe voting on Saturday…oh wait, that c/b devastating for the right.

As a Californian, I am going to have to respectfully disagree. We have gotten soooooo weird, that even our earthquakes have relocated.

Mutnodjmet on August 26, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Funny of the day :)

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Momentum could be a factor too. If Perry wins Iowa, does well(i.e. 2nd place) in New Hampshire, and wins South Carolina, he could surge in Florida and pull off a victory there. Plus I think Romneycare will hurt Mittens with senior voters once Perry and Bachmann start to turn their attention to that and away from Obama(at least momentarily).
Doughboy on August 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

Politics is a strange thing. There are no sure bets, especially this early in the game. “Riding high in April, shot down in May”, as Francis said. Could surge, could peak.

whatcat on August 26, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Everyone knows Florida is the weirdest state; they long ago surpassed California in that respect.

pseudonominus on August 26, 2011 at 1:40 PM

As a Californian, I am going to have to respectfully disagree. We have gotten soooooo weird, that even our earthquakes have relocated.

Mutnodjmet on August 26, 2011 at 1:49 PM

I’m a Californian too. I’m just glad the heat is off of us now!

pseudonominus on August 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Interesting how Ed Rollins hasn’t been shooting his mouth off about Perry, seeing as Rick’s entrance has pretty much ended Bachmann’s campaign.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 1:55 PM

I think rollins is planning to reboot Bachmann’s campign. his new theme for bachmann will be that she is the “smart” Perry. She has a law degree and stuff and Perry had a 1.9 GPA in college. Bachmann will be out calling the fed a traitor and saying how she loves crony capitalism.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM

…Rick’s entrance has pretty much ended Bachmann’s campaign.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 1:55 PM

I’ll go all-gender-specific here and say that times are very, very rough and there is substantial reservation about placing a woman in the Presidency when there is considerable heavy lifting to be done by he — who is likely to be he — among the GOP wins the White House.

Bachmann has been an uplifting influence for many and she has little to not be proud of. But compared to Perry and Romney as to the Capitalist economy and how it’s been damaged by Obama and the Left and must now be rallied back to life, I think there is reservation as to electing a woman to lead that task from the Presidency.

My take on the heat that Perry’s generated and why when compared with Bachmann.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM

I’ll bring a mop if that happens.

Bishop on August 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

You’ll need to bring yer Zamboni.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Haha. Well played.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Bachmann will have to make a decision as she continues to lose support to Perry.

Does she hang on to split the conservative vote and allow Romney to win or will she step out before it is too late and throw her support behind Perry?

TheRightMan on August 26, 2011 at 1:46 PM

She’ll hang on as long as she can- hers was a vanity run from the beginning. She didn’t enter the race with a serious expectation of becoming President, but rather to raise her profile.

Hollowpoint on August 26, 2011 at 2:04 PM

I don’t know his friendship with Perry might make it more likely he would get in as he would most likely take votes from mitt and therefore help Perry and Palin. And if he is looking for VP instead of AG? He would be looking to increase is name and cache.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Except he signed that stupid pledge.

cartooner on August 26, 2011 at 2:04 PM

I’m a Californian too. I’m just glad the heat is off of us now!

pseudonominus on August 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM

I doubt that it is, what with Jerry Brown continuing on with his and the Communist-Left-California’s plans to wreck free enterprise and chase all the Conservatives and Moderates out of the state.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:04 PM

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Elitism will not play in this cycle.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Interesting how Ed Rollins hasn’t been shooting his mouth off about Perry, seeing as Rick’s entrance has pretty much ended Bachmann’s campaign.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 1:55 PM

That’s what happens when you get outmaneuvered and out-strategized.

The Bachmann Team banked everything on a Palin-Bachmann cage fight and hoped to come out the stronger or at the least, more relevant.

Unfortunately, they’ve been outflanked by Perry (who I personally believe is working in cahoots with Palin) and now can only watch as she is pushed lower and lower into a second-tier position.

TheRightMan on August 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM

TheRightMan on August 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM

You’re incorrect about who to blame for that fantasy cage-fight. That was a DNC game all along, so put the blame where it belongs: on Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and that mess that is today’s DNC.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Right. I like Bachmann but have always felt that she has been a little light in the accomplishment department. The point of my post wasn’t to express surprise that Perry’s entrance has crushed Bachmann’s post-Ames momentum. It was to express (sarcastic) surprise that Rollins has chosen not to go after Perry who is essentially ending Bachmann’s run when he showed no hesitation in going after Palin who isn’t a candidate.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 2:07 PM

All I see now is a lot of wish casting.

idesign on August 26, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Absolutely true!

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM

But, but, what about Palin? /

Perry might be peaking a little early and, if he stumbles in the debates, that could impact his standing in IA. I think he needs to deliver the knockout blow to Bachmann there…if that doesn’t happen and she sticks around, I think there’s a real risk that Romeny emerges the nominee. Can’t believe, 4 years after getting stuck with McCain, we might end up with even more of a squish.

changer1701 on August 26, 2011 at 2:10 PM

OT:

Looks like one of the Jeffersons is leaving the Vineyard and retuning to the White Hut…

PatriotRider on August 26, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and that mess that is today’s DNC.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:07 PM

DWS doesn’t have the intelligence level for that. She’s the white Corrine Brown.

Lanceman on August 26, 2011 at 2:11 PM

You’ll need to bring yer Zamboni.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM

LOL… cause Hades will have frozen over!

OnlyOrange on August 26, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Does she hang on to split the conservative vote and allow Romney to win or will she step out before it is too late and throw her support behind Perry?

TheRightMan on August 26, 2011 at 1:46 PM

IMO Bachmann will stay in if and only if Palin gets in. If Palin annouces tommorrow she isn’t runnign Bachmann announces sunday she is out of the race and when she steps out of the race she endorses mitt.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Florida could be key this cycle under the following hypothetical (and quite plausible) scenario:

Perry wins IA.
Romney wins NH.
Romney wins NV.
Perry wins SC.
? wins Florida

Romney will probably do well again in mountain states with a large Mormon population as well as MI. A strong showing in FL could boost Perry’s momentum going into Super Tuesday.

Complicating matters is the fact that (last I checked) the primary / caucus schedule still wasn’t set, with states and the RNC battling back and forth on who can hold their primary / caucus when.

Hollowpoint on August 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Romney is getting the Charlie Crist people. No surprise.

Really Right on August 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

And…their votes should count for less?

You know who Perry or Romney or Palin or Bachmann will need votes from to win next year? McCain and Obama people. We need people who voted for Obama to switch over to our side.

So, yeah, I’m not exactly turned off by the fact that Romney (and Perry in a general) appeal to independents.

BocaJuniors on August 26, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Looks like one of the Jeffersons is leaving the Vineyard and retuning to the White Hut…

PatriotRider on August 26, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Seriously, dude?

changer1701 on August 26, 2011 at 2:26 PM

BocaJuniors on August 26, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Yes, every vote counts. If I were a Republican candidate for POTUS I would want every Charlie Crist supporter voting for me, too. Same for every Palinista, every Ron Paul supporter, too. A vote is a vote is a vote.

Really Right on August 26, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Maybe non-candidates relying on other people doing the grunt work of candidacy is irritating to those who are doing the grunt work of candidacy.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Seriously, dude?

changer1701 on August 26, 2011 at 2:26 PM

Yep.

President Obama will end his vacation tonight, one day earlier than originally planned, White House officials said.

The president thought it would “be more prudent for him to be in Washinton, D.C., and at the White House,” deputy press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters.

The president made the decision to cut short his family vacation on Martha’s Vineyard shortly after addressing the nation about the impending danger of Hurricane Irene, which he said has the potential to be “historic.”

kingsjester on August 26, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and that mess that is today’s DNC.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:07 PM

DWS doesn’t have the intelligence level for that. She’s the white Corrine Brown.

Lanceman on August 26, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Well, to be accurate, the meme of that so-called and alleged “cage-fight” started with Debbie W-S’s ridiculous allegation that such was or “would” occur. So whoever programmed her talking points, it wasn’t a Republican. I think Wasserman-Schultz is actually considerably allergic to speaking with Republicans much moreso being advised by any.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Looks like one of the Jeffersons is leaving the Vineyard and retuning to the White Hut…

PatriotRider on August 26, 2011 at 2:10 PM

wow Palin called this on greta right at the beginning of his vacation. said she was sure he would use some reason to leave his vacation one day short to give the appearance of being “concerned” just like he did with is south american trip.

unseen on August 26, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Plus I think Romneycare will hurt Mittens with senior voters once Perry and Bachmann start to turn their attention to that and away from Obama(at least momentarily).
Doughboy on August 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

I think Perry’s remarks in his book of abolishing Social Security, Medicare & Medcaid will be viewed very harshly in Florida. Perry’s extreme language and approach is scary.

Perry and Bachmann can turn their attention on Romneycare all they like, Mitt’s been attacked from all sides for months on this topic, not sure what new insight (or clever names…aww poor Pawlenty) they’ll bring to the argument. Romneycare remains popular with the majority of MA citizens, so I don’t see Florida folks caring that much if the MA folks like it.

And as Mr. Perry is a strong 10th amendment advocate (he still is isn’t he?) I’m not sure what argument he’d have against Romney for doing what the majority of citizens in the state wanted and likes.

Plus how does Mr. Perry go from thinking a mandate by his executive order was fine and dandy (the HPV mandate) but not a mandate that was voted on by all elected state representatives (except two).

Plus why haven’t we heard about any TEA party rallies in MA to repeal the law over the years? It seems like a natural place for a tea party to be held especially if this is such a huge issue?

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 2:39 PM

This just proves Perry is unelectable and needs to get out of the race ASAP.

The Usual Suspects

Knucklehead on August 26, 2011 at 1:36 PM

No , let him run.

the_nile on August 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Hollowpoint on August 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM

If Perry wins NH it’s over. It’s not true today but polls can change rather quickly.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Simple.

Romneycare is ok for Mass, if that’s what the folks wanted.

Obamacare is for the entire land.

They are running for president, aren’t they?

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:46 PM

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Simple.

Romneycare is ok for Mass, if that’s what the folks wanted.

Obamacare is for the entire land.

They are running for president, aren’t they?

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:46 PM

But it works the other way around, too, re: Executive Order mandating Gardsil.

whatcat on August 26, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:46 PM

Not sure of your point. Romney promised on day one of his presidency he’ll issue waivers to Obamacare for all states until it can be repealed.

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Romneycare, too?

kingsjester on August 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Maybe non-candidates relying on other people doing the grunt work of candidacy is irritating to those who are doing the grunt work of candidacy.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:33 PM

More likely Ed Rollins just says what he is paid to say. Seeing as he made the comments at the very beginning of Bachmann’s launch and had actually said the very same criticims of Bachmann herself a few months earlier before he was on her payroll.

Kataklysmic on August 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Not sure of your point. Romney promised on day one of his presidency he’ll issue waivers to Obamacare for all states until it can be repealed.

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Oops and I forgot to add that it’s a brilliant approach because Obama can’t say anything against waivers since he’s given out over a 1,000 waivers.

Romney has set out the right approach to this issue for the debate.

And I think everyone else running has now followed Mitt’s lead saying they too would issue waivers.

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Romneycare, too?

kingsjester on August 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM

No, that would be un-Constitutional.

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 3:05 PM

No, that would be un-Constitutional.

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Mandates sure are.

kingsjester on August 26, 2011 at 3:16 PM

If Perry wins NH it’s over. It’s not true today but polls can change rather quickly.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Yeah, but that’s highly unlikely. If he wins FL (even by a hair), I think he’ll have it sewn up; gaining 7 points is well within the realm of plausibility.

The next debate on Sept 7 could prove crucial to Perry- if he does well it would solidify his (currently weak) status as frontrunner. If he screws the pooch during his first major introduction to the public at large it could would weaken him significantly, if not destroy him.

Hollowpoint on August 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM

The most glowing number is that 17 percent are undecided. More people are undecided than are for Bachmann, and almost as many for Perry

ConservativePartyNow on August 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM

But they try to tell us that voters are pleased with the current candidates…

the_nile on August 26, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Maybe non-candidates relying on other people doing the grunt work of candidacy is irritating to those who are doing the grunt work of candidacy.

Lourdes on August 26, 2011 at 2:33 PM

So Palin supporting MB for house reelection was nothing?

the_nile on August 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM

No , let him run.

the_nile on August 26, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Heh. Get her, nile!

Lanceman on August 26, 2011 at 3:50 PM

kingsjester on August 26, 2011 at 3:16 PM

No kingsjester what Mitt did in MA was constitutional. And it was voted on and accepted by all state representatives (except two) and remains popular by the majority of the citizens who live in the state.

I’m sure Perry’s mandate by executive order was constitutional as well. However, it was not accepted and was voted down by the state’s representatives and it was disliked by most citizens of the state.

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM

This poll is a push poll because it doesn’t show Palin leading the field, or something.

xblade on August 26, 2011 at 4:18 PM

I was on RealClear today and noticed this poll. This is the best Poll from Florida I have seen. B.O. is going to have a very very difficult time. The breakdowns between age groups, especially the Hispanic vote is going to be a deal breaker. Perry, Romney & others are listed.

http://www.magellanstrategies.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Magellan-Florida-2012-General-Election-Survey-Release-0823111.pdf

bluefox on August 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM

I really resent the fact that three states essentially decide who the nominee will be. Every primary should be on the same day.

TxAnn56 on August 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM

I totally agree. The way it is, it allows for fraud as we saw in the 2008 election. Also, the Caucus vote should be outlawed in my opinion. Only certain people can attend and at the hours that it is set for. I thought after the fraud and violence that went on in those States that maybe a change would have been made. But I haven’t seen any and I fear it is going to be worse this year.

bluefox on August 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM

First.

fossten on August 26, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Is it safe to come out now? There is blood oozing under the door. Haha. I need a mop. Goes back in bunker. First. Look at all the limbs. Did I mention a mop? First. Big Spiders can eat you.

Geochelone on August 26, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Ugh. First Ed & AP openly rooting for Christie and/or Romney (anyone other than Perry), and now dimwitted Korbe is doing the same. It’s fake conservatives like you three that are ruining the conservative movement. Stop it already.

Romney is Romney, and Christie is Romney in a fat suit. Neither one of them can win. They’re both far too stupid for real conservatives to ever vote for them. (And yes, if you believe in global warming, or that hydraulic fracturing causes groundwater pollution, you’re just plain stupid.)

Korbe – take that fat hotair paycheck and go buy yourself some brains, please.

wickedcurveball on August 26, 2011 at 7:22 PM

wickedcurveball on August 26, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Perry took Obama Stimulus Money in 2009 and then railed against Obama for the Stimulus Money.

Go look up the word hypocrite and you’ll find a picture of Perry at a Tea Party rally with a wad of Obama money sticking out of his pocket.

sheryl on August 26, 2011 at 8:03 PM

New Hampshire and Florida are the only early states that matter. Before you get all huffy about that, no, neither Nevada (Romney) Michigan (Romney) Iowa (Bachmann/Perry) or South Carolina (Perry) matter.

California helps decide if necessary after that like last time unless they are divided. Then it could go to the convention if they don’t quit.

scotash on August 27, 2011 at 7:02 PM

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