Unions splitting from Democrats in 2012, Trumka says

posted at 4:05 pm on August 25, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

The media likes to push the notion that the Republican Party will split in two because of the Tea Party, but they may have missed a real split on the other side of the aisle.  AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka announced the creation of a union super-PAC that will “build our own structure” rather than “build structures for others.”  And by “others,” Trumka means the Democratic Party:

The growing rift between labor and their Democratic allies was on full display Thursday, as AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told reporters that labor groups are planning to scale back their involvement with the Democratic Party in advance of the 2012 elections.

Going forward, Trumka said, the labor movement will build up its own political structures and organizations rather than contribute to and depend on the Democratic Party’s political operation. …

Labor has traditionally been a major contributor to Democratic candidates and causes around the country. Trumka said that their outside effort will help keep union-backed candidates more accountable for promises made on the campaign trail.

“Let’s assume we spent $100 in the last election,” he said, explaining the union’s position.

“The day after Election Day, we were no stronger than we were the day before,” said Trumka. “If we had spent that [$100] on creating a structure for working people that would be there year round, then we are stronger.”

That’s not just an expression of disapproval with the Democratic Party.  It’s a public vote of no confidence.  Unions spent heavily in the 2010 midterm elections; they accounted for three of the top five high-spending outside groups in that cycle.  They also spent tens of millions of dollars in Wisconsin this year in an attempt to wrest control of the state Senate away from Republicans, and failed to achieve their objective.  Trumka’s comments make it clear that he doesn’t see a great prospect of electoral success in 2012, either.

Trumka also directly criticized Obama for his inaction on job creation:

“He’s going to give a speech in a couple of weeks on job creation,” Trumka told reporters. “If he’s talking about another percent or two break from a tax here and doing something with patent control, and doing three years down the road something with infrastructure bank, that’s not going to get the job done.”

This puts the AFL-CIO into a position where the creation of a third party is not just a theoretical possibility, but perhaps a likely outcome.  The Tea Party doesn’t have deep pockets for organization, but the unions have a mostly-mandated grip on the pockets of their members, thanks to closed-shop rules in many areas of the country.  They can generate hundreds of millions of dollars for elections and candidate recruitment, especially in areas of high union concentration.  Unions might not be strong enough to run their own presidential candidate, but they could win House seats and perhaps a few Senate seats as well, or more likely just provide a competitive third choice for voters.  In fact, there’s really no other way to read Trumka’s statement but as a threat to compete with the Democratic Party on their own terms.

And that’s where the Democratic Party will suffer most.  If unions start running well-funded alternative candidates, the vote will split and allow Republicans to make gains in Congress and in state legislatures.  Either Democrats will have to start endorsing union candidates or start falling hopelessly behind the GOP in power and influence.

Even if this turns into just a one-cycle phenomenon, it couldn’t come at a worse time for Obama.  In order to win a general election, Obama needs to run to his right — and in order to keep the union funding he desperately needs, he will have to move to his left.  Either way, Obama loses, as does his party.

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“And since it’s at Comrades, we’re calling it a Communist Party!”

Red Cloud on August 25, 2011 at 4:07 PM

CPUSA?

steebo77 on August 25, 2011 at 4:09 PM

“We’re going to use a lot of our money to build structures that work for working people” Trumka said. “You’re going to see us give less money to build structures for others, and more of our money will be used to build our own structure.”

On job sites I never hear the union guys talk so much about wanting to “build structures”. It’s usually talk about taking a break, or getting coffee.

Scrappy on August 25, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Empty threat.

Period. The. End.

Knucklehead on August 25, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Yeah right, where are they going to go? If they P.O. the dems, the dems might not fight as hard to keep shops closed and letting the government demand employers take the dues out of paychecks.

There will be a very public reconciliation in the near future. Union bosses are crooks, not idealists.

cozmo on August 25, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Fully fund pensions, the hell you say?!?!?

Gohawgs on August 25, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Oh please, I might have been born at night but it wasn’t last night.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2011 at 4:12 PM

On job sites I never hear the union guys talk so much about wanting to “build structures”. It’s usually talk about taking a break, or getting coffee.

Scrappy on August 25, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Now that’s funny.

search4truth on August 25, 2011 at 4:12 PM

The American Labor Party. As a conservative, I am all for it! Watch the dems and obama get thrashed at the polls would be worth it

ConservativePartyNow on August 25, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Lefty Tea Party incarnation #42525689.

How’s that Van Jones thing working out for you?

The Mega Independent on August 25, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Unions renounce Dems.

Unions start their own Labor Party, ensuring Dems get trounced in 2012.

GOP WH and congress with super majority in senate pass national right-to-work law.

Unions: “Wha?”

Akzed on August 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM

If the union brass hadn’t wasted those millions trying to get their way the union members could have one hell of a retirement pay check.But I for one will not shed a tear.

docflash on August 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Either way, Obama loses, as does his party.

Well, mom always said to do one thing well. If losing is it for him, then...ah well!

ted c on August 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM

I call bullshinola.

catmman on August 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Somebody pinch me. I must be dreaming.

KeepOhioRed on August 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Barak will send his buddy Dick a message thru the NLRB when he orders them to reverse the Boeing Ruling.

meci on August 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM

I always wondered what happened to that little pug nosed dude at the end of cartoons that said…th th th that’s all folks!

capejasmine on August 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM

*laughs* So even with the Obamacare pander, the Stimulus pander, and the Education pander through Obama, it wasn’t enough, and now the Unions are bolting from the DNC to form their own party?

Seems the Democrat grip on unions was quite tenuous indeed.

Please run as many Union Party candidates as you can in 2012, Trumka. We need a Republican supermajority in the Senate and House and in the White House.

Nethicus on August 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Trumka sees the light.

This article is exceptionally good on the way the unions went.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Right.

Jimmy Hoffa has a better chance of rising out of the concrete at Giants Stadium than the Donks have of losing organized labor.

What a crock.

Bruno Strozek on August 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Never interrupt your enemies when they are trying to destroy themselves

ConservativePartyNow on August 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM

They can generate hundreds of millions of dollars for elections and candidate recruitment,

In other words, the reward for making sure card-check passes?

Hundreds of millions of dollars………

BacaDog on August 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Union masters s/b against outsourcing and illegal immigration, as well as Obama’s WSJ/banks/other cronies’ deep pockets.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM

I call bullshinola.

catmman on August 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Yeah, that bolshevik goon is just trying to send a message to Democrats.

forest on August 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Unions splitting from Democrats in 2012

And in other news the Sun will rise in the West tomorrow

skanter on August 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Unions now spreading their lies in Ohio using Ohians tax dollars.

KeepOhioRed on August 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Gus Hall is dead, so who are they gonna support?

Ward Cleaver on August 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Trumka is a world class moron. Who does he think he is fooling?

David in ATL on August 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Seems the Democrat grip on unions was quite tenuous indeed.

Hopefully, the African-American community will have the same
epiphany.

BacaDog on August 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM

“If we had spent that [$100] on creating a structure for working people that would be there year round, then we are stronger.”

What would really be great is if the unions spent that $100 on creating a support structure for their workers, not a political structure to support the union.

Crazy idea, no?

strictnein on August 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM

“So Democrats, that’s a nice party ya got there. Shame if anything happened to it…”

Meric1837 on August 25, 2011 at 4:23 PM

He’s trying to build a better muscle, like a more organized “Tea Party” movement with big bucks. I don’t think it will work because the Tea Party wants the government to live within its means and the Constitution. Trumka’s Goonions want power to benefit themselves.

“If we had spent that [$100] on creating a structure for working people that would be there year round, then we are stronger.”

BTW, who are these “working people” he speaks of?

cartooner on August 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM

This may result in a groundswell of Democrat sentiment to primary Obama. Anyway, as a reincarnation researcher, I believe Trumka may be the reincarnation of Ernst Roehm. See http://www.reincar-nation.com and the Obama Circle section.

NNtrancer on August 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Maybe this is what Caddell/Schoen know.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM

I’ve been saying for a long time, that the democrat party is ripe to split off a 3rd party.

The democrats lost big in 2010, they’re on track to lose even bigger 2012. The loss of power equates to a loss of the looting of American taxpayers to buy off their union and minority voters.

Since the democrat party is going to be a regional party and a party of urban cores, third parties can compete quite successfully in those smaller ponds. This way they can loot directly, instead of getting their loot filtered through the democrat party.

Makes a lot of sense.

Rebar on August 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Having an incompetent Marxist for a President, purposefully strangling the power generation industries, has been great for union employment, hasn’t it Sport?

MNHawk on August 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM

“And since it’s at Comrades, we’re calling it a Communist Party!”

Red Cloud on August 25, 2011 at 4:07 PM

CPUSA?

steebo77 on August 25, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Their moment is at hand. *snicker*

VibrioCocci on August 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Thousands of Verizon strikers filed for unemployment. Uhhh…isn’t that illegal?

KeepOhioRed on August 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Yeah, but Tina Turner kept on going back to Ike over and over again.

carbon_footprint on August 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Puh-leeze. Unions and the democrat party is a marriage made in hell and they’ll be joined at the wallet until death do they part.

Rational Thought on August 25, 2011 at 4:28 PM

If the demorats make any noise about this, Trumka will send over some goons to break kneecaps, but in a nice way.

Unions: Building a better tomorrow even if they have to kill you to do it.

Bishop on August 25, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Trumka is a world class moron. Who does he think he is fooling?

David in ATL on August 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM

No one, and he’s not trying to. This is just a threat to the Dems that they better step up the fight on behalf of unions. Dems didn’t shell out enough money for Wisconsin or something.

In that sense it’s great news, as Dem money is going to be stretched mighty thin as it is. The more Dem constituencies are fighting over those elusive funds, the better.

The left has to be really, really depressed about now.

Missy on August 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM

The Democrat Party and the unions are like a man that has a tiger by the tail. It really makes no difference which is the tiger and which is the man. The fact is that all of Mr. Trumka’s talk is all bluster and if he doesn’t know it yet, he soon will. The minute he turns off the monetary spigots to the Democrat Party, he will begin to find Democrat politicians suddenly discovering the merit in right-to-work laws. Once that happens, the unions will discover their membership diminishing to an even greater extent than it already has, and Mr. Trumka’s cash cow of automatic union dues will dry up. All the money that he has today to fund the Democrat Party will be gone.

Harrell on August 25, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Missy on August 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM

+1

VibrioCocci on August 25, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Maybe this is what Caddell/Schoen know.
Schadenfreude on August 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM

“Excellent,” -Monty Burns.

Akzed on August 25, 2011 at 4:32 PM

The left has to be really, really depressed about now.
Missy on August 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM

That comes naturally, leftoids are always in a funk about something.

Bishop on August 25, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Richard Trumka is RACIST!

GarandFan on August 25, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Can´t wait for CARDCHECK for all elections!

gullxn on August 25, 2011 at 4:35 PM

BTW, that pic screams for a caption, and my inner 12 year old that wants to provide an example needs to be suppressed or I will get banned.

Bishop on August 25, 2011 at 4:36 PM

This makes sense. Everybody knows the Democrats adhere to laissez-faire capitalism way too much to tow the union line.

ncborn on August 25, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Unions: Building a better tomorrow even if they have to kill you to do it.

Bishop on August 25, 2011 at 4:28 PM

That would be funny, if there weren’t some truth in it. This Trumka dude scares the bageezers out of me.

capejasmine on August 25, 2011 at 4:37 PM

The most Marxist president in the history of the country failed to make the Worker’s Paradise materialize. Where else can these fools go but outside the party?

the wolf on August 25, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Trumka brags of weekly visits to the White House. One can only imagine the hardcore Leftist agenda planning and course-plotting that occurs at such meetings.

Do not believe that the openly communist labor movement has “split” with the Democrat party. Look for the other hand.

IronDioPriest on August 25, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Here’s their new name:

National Socialist American Worker’s Party.

Chip on August 25, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Yea right.

angryed on August 25, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Yeah, that bolshevik goon is just trying to send a message to Democrats.

forest on August 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Just a shot across the bow, a warning to the Liberals. A bully telling them just how much under his thumb they are. He did this a few months ago, a nudge, a push.

IowaWoman on August 25, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Maybe we can make a deal with them. We will start a TEA Party and they can start a Big Labor party. Conservatives will win a 4 party race easy.

jeffn21 on August 25, 2011 at 4:46 PM

My BS meter needle just broke off.

We the people can raise more money than these has beens in 1 day IF the cause is right.

Just wait and see… ;)

golfmann on August 25, 2011 at 4:47 PM

A few months ago he gave a talk in which he spoke of “targeting” opponents.

With his unions’ history of violence one would think the civility police would be all over that, but one would be wrong.

juliesa on August 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM

In order to win a general election, Obama needs to run to his right — and in order to keep the union funding he desperately needs, he will have to move to his left.

“In place” is running’s “present.”

Barnestormer on August 25, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Unions spent heavily in the 2010 midterm elections; they accounted for three of the top five high-spending outside groups in that cycle. They also spent tens of millions of dollars in Wisconsin this year in an attempt to wrest control of the state Senate away from Republicans, and failed to achieve their objective.

A great deal of that money was forcibly extracted from the rank and file – shouldn’t the union leadership be more concerned about the people keeping more of their paychecks in Obama’s economy?

Why do the unions want to take money for food and healthcare from working families, don’t they care about the children?

Chip on August 25, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Here is what they are looking for

ConservativePartyNow on August 25, 2011 at 4:55 PM

In fact, there’s really no other way to read Trumka’s statement but as a threat to compete with the Democratic Party on their own terms.

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I read Trumka’s statement differently; given the SEIU publicity and the UAW bailouts, and how well the public received them, I think he’s saying what he’s saying to give cover to the Democrats.
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Even if this turns into just a one-cycle phenomenon, it couldn’t come at a worse time for Obama.

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The unions, the UAW and SEIU in particular, are lead weights about Big O’s campaign. A very public split now, given Big O’s poll numbers, can’t hurt, and it gives the unions and the D’s time to spin a New Truth.
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Whether, in any given district, the Union candidate or the Democratic candidate faces the Republican candidate in the general elections will likely be decided before the Democratic primary in that district happens. Likely, both will still be on the general election ballot, but it will be clear which of them is the real candidate.
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I expect all winning Union candidates, if there are any, to support any and all (and only) Democrat legislations and positions, just as though they were the previously union-owned Democrats themselves.
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But I do think this will represent a watershed moment in the Democratic Party. The unions are now essentially criminal organizations …
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Can the Democratic Party continue while also serving the unions? Stay tuned …

Arbalest on August 25, 2011 at 4:56 PM

as well as Obama’s WSJ/banks/other cronies’ deep pockets.

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM

S/b WS, not WSJ :(

Schadenfreude on August 25, 2011 at 4:56 PM

They are both exposed and useless. I suggest that the hateful morons stick with each other, and go down the tube together…

Karmi on August 25, 2011 at 4:56 PM

It is there way of saying, we are consolidating all of our money…now do as we say.
They will vote dem, just look at what happened in Wi. They can’t afford to have any Republican elected, because they will be exposed.

right2bright on August 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM

So Trumka – What are you going to do for 2012? Vote Republican?

antisocial on August 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM

The unions have no worries here in Mass. where they have an iron grip control over the dumocrats on Beacon Hill. The drones will vote for whomever the unions tell them to. But we sane Tea partiers do control @ 38% of the vote here. Too little too late for sure.

shanimal on August 25, 2011 at 5:02 PM

“And this time, we mean it!”

Jim-Rose on August 25, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Cape Jasmine,

That “little pug-nosed dude” would likely be the well-known “Porky Pig” of Bugs Bunny and Looney Tunes fame.

I’m rather shocked you didn’t know this. Maybe at age 51 I’m an old fogey but it indicates that maybe current American youth know nothing of the classic American cartoons enjoyed by the prior generations.

I feel do danged OLD now. Geesh.

As far as this thread goes, all I can say is: AFL-CIO, GO FOR IT!

This would result in the Dem party being split like Perot split ours in 1992, getting Bubba elected.

I agree witht the people above who called “bullshinola”. Trumka can’t POSSIBLY be that stupid. I think he’s trying to get the Dems to pay more attention to what the Union bosses are asking for. I don’t think this moveis any more than that.

Shirotayama on August 25, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Will they unveil a “5 year plan”?

HA!

Opposite Day on August 25, 2011 at 5:06 PM

He’s just gassing. The Union will fall into line as it always has. The left worships politics, and they know that a split will destroy their chance for power. The right worships principle, so splits are seen as principled stands.

p40tiger on August 25, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Lefty Tea Party incarnation #42525689.

How’s that Van Jones thing working out for you?

The Mega Independent on August 25, 2011 at 4:13 PM

..don’t mean to single you out here, but you people are all missing the point here. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS!

The War Planner on August 25, 2011 at 5:07 PM

I think your mis-readnig Trumka’s statement. What he means is that he is planning on funding Republican labor candidates. The reason for this is that the Democratic brand is so trashed people are not going to race out to vote for them.

Look for brand new Republican labor union funded candidates!

Freddy on August 25, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Americans Fornicating Liberty-Communists In Operation

FlatFoot on August 25, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Kabuki.

hillbillyjim on August 25, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Wisconsin is a sign that unions, specifically public-sector unions, are in the GOP’s crosshairs. Anti-union legislation has the added beneficial effect of de-funding Democrats. Maybe Trumka and the unions see this as a way of preserving themselves from the wrath of upcoming GOP majorities.

Sekhmet on August 25, 2011 at 5:30 PM

So Trumka – What are you going to do for 2012? Vote Republican?

antisocial on August 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM

I don’t think you’re seeing the whole picture.

The democrat party is going down – hard. The democrat’s looting of the American taxpayers, at least on the federal level, and in a lot of states, will be over.

By forming it’s own party, lets call it the Labor Party (LP), they can run – and win control of – states that are already run by unions like Massachusetts. They can then cut out the middleman when they loot the taxpayers.

It makes perfect sense, and is the smart move.

Rebar on August 25, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Are the Teamsters joining the Communist Party now?

ObamatheMessiah on August 25, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Wonder how Trumpka thinks that 12% of the working population will outweigh the interests of the other 88% of the working population?

karenhasfreedom on August 25, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Liar, liar soul’s on fiyah.

SouthernGent on August 25, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Does this have anything to do with the planned wall street protest by Union sympathizers? Glenn Beck has been covering the plans to protest JP Morgan Chase. As I recall Jamie Dimon is big supporter of Barack Obama. Was there a contest for the Democrat financial supporters, we all were not aware of, and did the bankers win vs the union brokers?

SEPTEMBER 17: “LET THE U.S. DAYS OF RAGE BEGIN”

This isn’t going to end well.

Dr Evil on August 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM

“Labor Leader’s Salary-and-Pension-Guarantee Party”

RADIOONE on August 25, 2011 at 6:07 PM

So why would the GOP go with COMMUNISM?

tarpon on August 25, 2011 at 6:10 PM

This would be good for a years worth of Divorce Court episodes.

infidel4life on August 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM

BTW, that pic screams for a caption, and my inner 12 year old that wants to provide an example needs to be suppressed or I will get banned.

Bishop on August 25, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Go for it. We need more caption contests.

slickwillie2001 on August 25, 2011 at 6:32 PM

I think Ed got this one all wrong. It’s just a big lie so that the new “super PAC” can spend all the money it wants promoting Democrats while technically complying with federal election laws.

Al in St. Lou on August 25, 2011 at 6:33 PM

hillbillyjim on August 25, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Yep.

Al in St. Lou on August 25, 2011 at 6:34 PM

ncborn on August 25, 2011 at 4:37 PM

I assume you went to public schools?

Al in St. Lou on August 25, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Either way, Obama loses, as does his party.

Either way would be a WIN for the USA

el rey on August 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM

And since it is run by the Unions, then Union members won’t have to pay any dues since they ALREADY pay dues to their Union and this is JUST a Union function…. right?

Only people not part of a Union will have to pay for party membership…

Because anything else is really just a scam to fleece Union members of more money. In fact ANYTHING done by that organization should be FREE to Union members… yes all those party functionaries having to run the thing, all the paperwork, filing, office space, equipment… FREE for Union member use, right? Because Union dues WILL be paying for this.

Won’t this be fun?

ajacksonian on August 25, 2011 at 6:44 PM

I can’t believe we haven’t had a “caption the photo” on this one yet.

Obama: Now I’m going to pull the back of your trousers down.

hawkdriver on August 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM

I think Trumka is full of it, leveling empty threats to Nobama. There’s no need for a new labor party – it’s called Communism. They can join the Communist Party USA and be done with it.

Philly on August 25, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Would be awesome if it were true. But it isn’t. Just a threat to get the big O in line.

Heck, it worked with the latino vote. Look at immigration.

Pablo Snooze on August 25, 2011 at 7:38 PM

“You’re kind of tense today Ricky. Come by tomorrow for another special Oba-massage”.

slickwillie2001 on August 25, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Long have I relished the idea of the Dems fracturing into two separate parties: Social Democrats and American Labor, splitting the vote of the American left and ensuring GOP dominion over the land…

It simply is not to be. The two factions here, the Social Democrats and the unions are locked at the hip. Trumka can thump his chest and say “We’re shutting you down, Obama! Everybody out!”…but then Obama can just as easily say:

“Those are some awfully nice ObamaCare waivers you’ve got there, Richard…be a shame if something were to happen to them…”

and

“Awful lot of UAW folks work directly for the government these days, Richard…be a shame if I had to make some budget cuts at GM…”

or

“Try it. I’ll let Boeing set up in South Carolina next week. DON’T CALL MY BLUFF, BROTHER!”

Not gonna happen. America’s unionized labor and the Democratic party entered into their suicide pact far too long ago and are so inextricably linked at this point that separation surgery would kill both patients dead.

They both know this.

Remember, no matter how stupid they sound, they’re not stupid. Corrupted to their very core, lying and disingenuous cretins without a doubt, but they’re not stupid.

If they were stupid, they’d have never been able to put us where we are today. (Not to say the Prog wing of the GOP didn’t do their best to help…)

Trumka’s little outburst is a bit of bluster, nothing more.

When the left fractures, it’ll be over something much more emotionally charged and far less easily reconciled than this.

It’ll be the day The Race Card stops working at the ATM of Public Discourse.

If I were a lefty, I’d start worrying about THAT these days, because Obama and the CBC have all but played it to tatters in less than three years and the tab’s on the way…

SuperCool on August 25, 2011 at 7:50 PM

If we really wanted to screw with these guys we’d pass a law that they couldn’t make political contributions to politicians or PAC’s unless their retirement and benefits packages were fully funded.

It’s in support of the working people…

trigon on August 25, 2011 at 7:57 PM

their new party name? National Socialist Workers

mathewsjw on August 25, 2011 at 8:36 PM

mathewsjw on August 25, 2011 at 8:36 PM

No… National Socialist Democratic Workers Party… I’m sure they will stick with tradition on that, save it will be Purple Shirts instead of Brown.

ajacksonian on August 25, 2011 at 9:23 PM

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