Study: Almost 10% of employers might end health plans once new exchanges start

posted at 6:45 pm on August 24, 2011 by Allahpundit

The perfect complement to Ed’s post this morning about how deficits are bound to drop in the near term if only you assume ridiculously rosy scenarios for every possible budget development. Case in point: CBO’s initial ObamaCare score assumed that only four million, or 2.5 percent, of the 162 million workers who have employer-provided health insurance would end up switching to the new taxpayer-subsidized exchanges once they go online three years from now. What happens to deficit projections if it turns out that that estimate is wildly, wildly low?

We can guess, but we don’t have to. Looks like we’ll find out.

Nearly one in 10 midsize or large employers expects to stop offering health coverage to workers once federal insurance exchanges start in 2014, according to a survey from a large benefits consultant.

Towers Watson also found in a survey completed last month that an additional 20% of companies are unsure about what they will do

A large majority of employers in both studies said they expect to continue offering benefits once the exchanges start. But former insurance executive Bob Laszewski said he was surprised that as many as 8% or 9% of companies already say they expect to drop coverage.

Such a move comes with potential payroll-tax headaches and could subject firms to fines. It also would give their employees a steep compensation cut if companies don’t raise pay in exchange for ending coverage.

In fact, a survey of employers published by McKinsey in June found that as many as 30 percent will definitely or probably drop coverage once the exchanges begin, and among those with a “high awareness” of the new rules post-ObamaCare, that number rises to 50 percent. And why not? If you can cut costs by paying a fine instead of buying insurance for workers, why not push them off onto the exchanges and let taxpayers pick up the slack? Hopefully employees who see their benefits yanked will get a raise in wages to help them buy insurance on their own, but who knows? Employers have already leveraged workers’ abject terror of being laid off in this economy into longer hours and greater productivity. It’s the rare employee these days who’d quit under any circumstances, even if it means carrying a heavy new insurance burden with little or no extra income to help. Besides, a savvy employer knows that if the average worker proves too poor to afford insurance on the exchange, Congress will simply increase the government subsidy. Which is to say, instead of moving away from ruinous federal health-care spending of the sort that’s making Medicare such a crippling liability, we’ll be moving further towards it.

That’s not the only bad effect. More from Jeffrey Anderson writing about the McKinsey survey:

Under Obamacare’s mandates, the report says that “employers will no longer be able to offer better benefits to their highly compensated executives than to their hourly employees.”

These mandates would result in perverse hiring incentives. The report writes,

“Instead of completely dropping employer-sponsored insurance (ESI), employers could also choose, in effect, to cover only part of their workforce, without violating the provisions of reform that prohibit employers from discriminating against lower-income employees in a health benefits offering. One way of doing so would be to increase the proportion of part-time workers, for whom employers are not required to provide coverage.”

If you like your plan you can keep your plan, unless you’re either busted down to part-time employment or laid off entirely while your position is outsourced so that your boss can comply with the “no discrimination in benefits” mandate. And as Ed has noted many times, even if you’re an employer who wants to do right by your employees by absorbing the extra cost of providing insurance instead of shunting them off onto the exchanges, competitive pressures may not allow it. Once one business in the industry defects to cut costs, everyone else will be under strain to follow suit. Long story short, we may well be looking at higher unemployment and higher deficits once the new rules kick in. Perfection.

Exit question: Which far-right Obama-basher once called employee-dumping “the most serious threat” to arise from ObamaCare? The answer may surprise you.

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Alot more than 10% are going to end health plans…..G.A.R.U.N.T.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.D.!

sicoit on August 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM

I own a business and you better believe I will drop coverage on day one of O’Care…..

SDarchitect on August 24, 2011 at 6:52 PM

This is according to the Left’s plan to make people clamor for a single payer system.

After this which is more likely:

1) A hue and cry for a single payer system.

2) A hue and cry for the federal government to get the hell out of ALL healthcare decisions/subsidies/pay-offs/’help’/mandates?

Because from where things are now, if the SCOTUS doesn’t rule against it, then #1 is looking to be impossible and #2 is more probable… along with tar, feathers, pitchforks, torches and rails being involved for Congresscritters.

ajacksonian on August 24, 2011 at 6:53 PM

I wonder when the audit will start on McKinsey & Co.?

Ditkaca on August 24, 2011 at 6:53 PM

It’s us or obamacare, not enough money for both.

tim c on August 24, 2011 at 6:54 PM

the system worked

rob verdi on August 24, 2011 at 6:57 PM

10% is a GIGANTIC underestimate. I’d guess anywhere from 30-50%, all told.

Uncle Sams Nephew on August 24, 2011 at 6:57 PM

All the GOP nominee has to do is campaign on two issues

This and jobs

They’ll win by a landslide.

gophergirl on August 24, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Yet another obvious lie coming home to roost.

Otherwise known as: ‘The Turd in the Punchbowl, Part. 1,221′.

CPT. Charles on August 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Hopefully employees who see their benefits yanked will get a raise in wages to help them buy insurance on their own

Why? That would be counterproductive to the goal of Obamacare, which is to make the American public beg for government-run healthcare.

malclave on August 24, 2011 at 7:03 PM

If you like your disease/affliction, you can keep your disease/affliction.

-Obama

portlandon on August 24, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Obamacare was never about insuring more people, it was never about bending some cost curve, or reducing healthcare costs, it’s about government control over the economy.

slickwillie2001 on August 24, 2011 at 7:05 PM

You lie!

WisCon on August 24, 2011 at 7:05 PM

It’s probably quadruple that number if they’re admitting 10%.

Missy on August 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Obama lies. What’s new?
It is good to develop the list of specifics.

GaltBlvnAtty on August 24, 2011 at 7:09 PM

NO FAIR ALLAH! After all, “We have to pass it, in order to see what’s in it!”

Just ask Nancy Poo!

Given the number of waivers granted, you can bet businesses will be shedding their health care programs.

GarandFan on August 24, 2011 at 7:12 PM

If the supreme court doesn’t throw this out, I am close to just giving up on the whole mess…

golfmann on August 24, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Repeal is the only option. If the GOP fails to do so — a full repeal — they will be committing suicide. Every election after 2104 will be a “he wants to cut health care!” election, and all politicians will be left and lefter. And eventually the whole thing will implode, and a charismatic fascist will rise from the ashes of what was once the United States of America.

Rational Thought on August 24, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Well I guess these businesses have not gotten the waiver from bho yet? All will be a-ok when that happens? Any guess to what the final total of waivers will be on this thing?
L

letget on August 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM

“All the GOP nominee has to do is campaign on two issues”

“This and jobs”

That’ll be quite a dance for Romney if he’s the nominee.

RADIOONE on August 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Brooks doesn’t get a pass. This is a big DUH!!!
Everyone knew this would happen. It was by design, even when we were being lied to our faces by the person whose attraction by houseflies, is like that of socialist democrats.

Kini on August 24, 2011 at 7:23 PM

10% my eye. It’s going to be 25% minimum. Some non-government estimates are as high as 50%

Chuck Schick on August 24, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Thank you President Obama.

crr6 on May 1, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on August 24, 2011 at 7:25 PM

How many people will be working in 2014?If a person is recieving unemployment money will they be fined for not having insurance?

docflash on August 24, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Study: Almost 10% of employers might end health plans once new exchanges start

Precisely what Obama/Pelosi/Reid want.

The Rs are missing on ObamaCare. Wake up or lose yer azzes in 2012, all of you.

Schadenfreude on August 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Ten percent is a fantasy. Even 30 percent is on the optimistic side, I’d say. I can tell our HR department is drooling to drop us. You can see it in their eyes. So that’s 100 percent in my personal sample. The last benefits meeting almost broke out in a riot. The 30 percent increase in employee contribution hit the hourly people pretty hard. Of course everything the Reds say they do to help the working man only hurts. Next year will be worse. And then comes 2014 and pffft. Even if you have some sort of coverage, doctors will be scarcer. And after ten years or so of prospective med students opting out to be professional poker players rather than work for peanuts in some clinic attached to the Post Office, the number of doctors will drop off a cliff. The USA will be importing all our MDs from the medical diploma mills of East Timor. The total demolition of the most advanced and equitable health system in history is underway. Watch it while it happens. But don’t get sick.

curved space on August 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Which far-right Obama-basher once called employee-dumping “the most serious threat”

I saw which…

Speaking of dumping, few people know that Michelle Obama was paid around 450,000/yr in salary to patient dump. Yes, indeed, she did that. The media may explode for not covering.

Schadenfreude on August 24, 2011 at 7:33 PM

As far as BHO is concerned, this is a feature, not a bug.

jdp629 on August 24, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Are you better off now than you were two years ago?

Absolutely.

crr6 on May 30, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 24, 2011 at 7:35 PM

ObamaCare – built and designed to fail – and having majorities in both Houses for the next 30-40 years (so they thought), they could move right on into government-run health care. The plan was so simple. Unfortunately reality and the Tea Party got in the way.

And you wonder why the Tea Party is so despised and hated?

GarandFan on August 24, 2011 at 7:38 PM

The answer may surprise you.

okay, i lol’d on that one allah….

cmsinaz on August 24, 2011 at 7:42 PM

we may well be looking at higher unemployment and higher deficits once the new rules kick in. Perfection.

yeah baby
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cmsinaz on August 24, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Let’s take me and my wife and say we are typical. Age 67 and wife age 65. We qualify for several health care for life programs.
I am covered by 5 different groups
Vet
retired Army
retired Union worker
covered on wife’s retirement
over 65 (medicare and Medicaid).

Wife is covered by 4 different groups
My Army retirement
My Union retirement
here teacher retirement
over 65 (medicare and medicaid)

Guess what? after 65 you MUST use, medicare and medicaid. No choice, it’s the federal law, you have no choice and the fine and penalty if you don’t is very substantial.

Two Questions. First Do the unions and government organizations get to keep the money we put in?
Second Question. If the average cost is $55,000/year/person and there are maybe 20,000,000 people in this spot. Why don’t they let us chose and they could save 1.1 trillion per year.

jpcpt03 on August 24, 2011 at 7:43 PM

If you like your plan, you can keep — ah, forget it.

excellent tag line buddy…

cmsinaz on August 24, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Will Irene finally force OblameO to go home?

tarpon on August 24, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Why don’t they let us chose and they could save 1.1 trillion per year.

Bite your tongue! How DARE you question our masters! THEY will determine! THEY will decide. Just shut up, all that’s required of you is the money already taken from you, under penalty of law.

GarandFan on August 24, 2011 at 7:58 PM

With all the riots going on throughout Europe, I’ve been pondering a scenario here that could be worse.

If somehow Obama gets re-elected (God, please don’t), and/or we can’t get a super-majority senate, thus unable to completely repeal/defund ObamaCare, it will all kick in, all of it. And, when the almost 50% of the people who are the takers of nanny-state spending realize how utterly horrible it’s going to be on top of the already disastrous economy, Houston, we’ve got a problem.

And, when the ones who are not the takers, but who nevertheless tend to sit on the political sidelines, more concerned about American Idol, Celebrity Apprentice, and sports than life its own self, finally figure out that ObamaCare is far worse than they had ever heard it would be, Houston, we’ve got a cluster-f*ck of a problem.

Put these together, and you’re likely to see anarchy on steroids, the difference between the Europeans and us being that Americans have guns and ammo.

Now, here’s where it gets dicey. When the protestors hit the streets, even if peacefully, Obama and company will manufacture some killings and other disorder, via the Black Panthers and underground leftist groups, and pinning it on gun owners, Tea Partiers, and people who frequent “right-wing websites”, you name it. Which, of course, will give them the excuse to ultimately impose Marshall Law or worse, effectively suspending the Constitution.

This is why we and the Republicans must do all we can, spend every dollar and every hour and all the sweat-equity we can to make sure the American public learns all about ObamaCare and about what we’re going to do to get this country back to work. I used to say we cannot afford four more years of Obama and company. If I had a time machine, I’d take us all to January 20, 2013, in four minutes or less.

TXUS on August 24, 2011 at 8:12 PM

To quote Obama- “It’s not my fault–just Congress, Bush, and bad luck”

mobydutch on August 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM

I know exactly what I am going to do. Not hire anyone.

southsideironworks on August 24, 2011 at 8:16 PM

I’ve already fired myself. See you on the lake.

Bishop on August 24, 2011 at 8:41 PM

10% will end health plans once the exchanges start.

The other 90% will end health plans once the numbers start coming in.

This only applies to private employers, of course. Government entities won’t adjust their coverage – they can afford it, after all.

HitNRun on August 24, 2011 at 9:18 PM

My company is dropping providers inn favor of a health care reimbursement account. Not sure if this is due to Duh Won’s screwing with our healthcare system or not.

john1schn on August 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Nearly one in 10 midsize or large employers expects to stop offering health coverage to workers once federal insurance exchanges start in 2014, according to a survey from a large benefits consultant.

Seems the unintended consequence was actually intended.

rukiddingme on August 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Wonderful news if you want to keep your Doctor!!!
Oh. Wait. He moved to Costa Rica.

pat on August 25, 2011 at 2:16 AM

employers will no longer be able to offer better benefits to their highly compensated executives than to their hourly employees

Does this mean that the Federal government will have to offer every worker the same gold-plated coverage that Congressmen get? If not, why not?

Jay Mac on August 25, 2011 at 5:09 AM

When we elect a conservative President, that person should immediately issue an Executive Order stating “Since there was no provision in the law for issuing waivers, all waivers are now null and void for Obamacare… But, I understand that a bill has been submitted in the House to revoke the law. I suggest those who used to be covered by waivers may find it in their best interest to back the law.”

dominigan on August 25, 2011 at 1:04 PM