Gallup: Obama’s job approval down to 38/54
posted at 4:49 pm on August 23, 2011 by Allahpundit
A new low to match today’s new low in Rasmussen. He dipped below 40 percent briefly 10 days ago but then inched up a bit. Today a little more air exits the balloon. I think he’s one golf photo away from the magical Bushian 35 percent mark.
It’s no secret what’s driving this, of course. As bad as his overall rating is, his rating on the economy is simply gruesome. And unfortunately for all of us, there may be no way out. Here’s Richard Posner, one of America’s most eminent judges (a Reagan appointee to the Seventh Circuit) and a pioneer in the field of law and economics, basically throwing in the towel:
If the notion that we are merely living through the aftereffects of a mere “recession” that ended in 2009 sounds somewhat ridiculous, that’s because it is. If we were being honest with ourselves, we would call this a depression. That would certainly better convey both the severity of our problems, and the fact that those problems have no evident solutions…
[A]nything that takes money out of the economy, such as reducing federal spending or increasing federal taxes, will exacerbate the current depression. Consumers will have less money to spend, and this will discourage employers from hiring. So the reforms that I have been discussing should be phased in gradually over a period of years.
But it’s not clear that we have enough years. Suppose that the economy recovers by the end of 2012, and in 2013 and subsequent years grows at a 4 percent annual rate. (The long-term growth rate is about 3 percent, but growth is usually more rapid when it starts from a low level.) The public debt won’t continue to grow at 17 or 18 percent a year, but suppose it grows at 7 percent a year. Then the already very large federal deficit will continue to grow, and indeed, to compound: At a 7 percent annual growth rate, our public debt in 2012, estimated at $12.4 trillion, will grow by 40 percent in five years if none of the reforms designed to limit that growth are implemented before the end of that period. Yet if they are implemented while the economy is still struggling, the result may actually be to increase the deficit by driving tax revenues down (because incomes will be depressed) despite the elimination of loopholes, and by increasing transfer payments to the unemployed and others hard hit by the economic crisis.
The result is a quandary. I don’t see a way out of it. I hope others do.
We can’t afford austerity measures that will further impede growth while the economy is struggling, but we can’t afford not to enact austerity measures or else the debt will be growing uncontrollably by the time the economy’s humming again. And even if we do opt for austerity now, the debt may grow anyway simply because the economy will shrink even more dramatically than spending will. An obvious compromise would be to agree to a new stimulus now in exchange for truly dramatic entitlement reform beginning in, say, five years, but I’m not sure either side would agree to that. Maybe you could get a critical mass of Republicans to spend more now if the entitlement end of the deal was impressive enough, but you’ll never get Democrats to agree to that. Nothing short of a Grecian catastrophe will convince them that reforming Social Security and Medicare is worth the political backlash. Oh well. Let’s get on with it.









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Just as I predicted. I was confident that by the end of the Summer he’d drop below 40%.
Things are going to start getting really ugly now. Don’t be surprised if the Crips and Bloods start showing up at Tea Party rallies.
The thing is, when Obama was running against someone who wasn’t either an incumbent POTUS or Vice POTUS, it was easier for him to get away with his whole post-partisan BS, especially against a doormat like McCain. Now that he’s running for re-election with the nation in a foul mood, he’ll have to reach for the poison tipped daggers, and that will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. The American people will see him for the complete self-serving phony that he is.
ardenenoch on August 23, 2011 at 8:02 PM
Think of it like this: 47% pay no federal income tax.
Barack Obama is doing so poorly that he has lost 9% of the moocher class!
ajacksonian on August 23, 2011 at 8:44 PM
Tell me again how spending money we don’t have and must borrow helps the economy.
Because it doesn’t help. That is the idiocy that has destroyed the economy.
People understand that borrowing trillions of dollars and saddling generations to come with both the principle and the interest is destroying the future generations’ chances to thrive. It makes people hunker down and prepare for the inevitable worst.
Government spending is the least efficient way to put money back into the economy. Cut spending, cut taxes, stop choking growth with insane regulatory schemes and let people spend their own money without the political parasites taking a huge cut for themselves before they “redistribute” the crumbs to their dependent class supporters. We the people will do a far better job than the government can ever do, and consumer confidence will be buoyed by the knowledge that the government will not be skimming an ever greater portion of their earnings.
We can do it. We just have to get the bloodsucking parasites and the social engineers off our backs.
novaculus on August 23, 2011 at 8:47 PM
I fully expect my children to live with us until they’re at least thirty, with perhaps their spouses and children bunking up here as well.
Ten years ago this was a ghastly idea. Now it’s just reality.
Grace_is_sufficient on August 23, 2011 at 9:02 PM
The smart money on Wall Street called this a depression some time ago.
http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/17/keen-on-economy-paul-kedrosky-techcrunchtv/
That was extremely true before 2008 and the start of our economic fall. But during a recession, you simply can’t cut spending without realizing unintended side effects. Posner’s statement is backed up by fact- when Japan tried to balance its budget during its balance sheet recession, the deficit actually increased- just the opposite of what you might expect based on ‘common sense’.
You don’t seem to understand anything Posner is saying.
Other than right wing radio and various carnival barkers, tell us which economists describe today’s economy in your terms? You’re living in a world of imaginary victimization. The only redistribution going on this country over the past decade has been from the middle class to the upper class.
bayam on August 23, 2011 at 9:31 PM
dude? …. well, I guess you may be right.
ted c on August 23, 2011 at 10:02 PM
The 47% that pay no income taxes does include some folks that used to have jobs and don’t anymore, and are worse off under little Bammie. I would not call them all moochers.
slickwillie2001 on August 23, 2011 at 10:21 PM
All by design of your marxist buddy, obama.
“And they shall be judged by the company they keep.”
Lanceman on August 23, 2011 at 10:45 PM
If Obama were a true socialist, the nation’s failing banks would have been nationalized in 2008 instead of bailed out. And any bank deemed too big to fail would have been broken up and sold off. Luckily for you, Obama followed the capitalist route and the precedent set by Bush.
But I don’t want to dampen your sense of right-wing victimization at the hands of an evil radical or belief that a few simple policy changes will suddenly end our balance sheet recession. You’ll have to learn the hard way.
bayam on August 23, 2011 at 11:13 PM
Mr Posner, welcome to the world of ‘no easy solutions.’ Most of us have lived here for some time, but we welcome new faces, since it means there’s one fewer idiot thinking that “D means Drive.”
However, ‘no easy solutions’ also means ‘teetering on the brink’. No matter which way you turn the wheels, you go off the cliff. I think go slow, take it gradually, endure as much austerity as we can now, and set a course for better conditions down the road is the only wothwhile course.
My only pre-condition is that the President who brought us to the brink gets the privilege of riding shotgun–so he can see a better man drive.
rwenger43 on August 24, 2011 at 12:05 AM
Man, you are a fool.
obama ain’t no revolutionary. He ain’t no military strongman. I doubt the military would follow that kind of order from that puke.
Add to that fact that Wall Street and the banks have been his largest contributors. Rome didn’t burn in a day, numbnuts.
I guessed you must’a missed it when he ‘nationalized’ GM & Chrysler, leaving the bond holders on the hook. Go back to D. Koz, you pr!ck.
Lanceman on August 24, 2011 at 1:39 AM
I would think this great national pain we are experiencing might actually be worth it if it insures we’d never again elect a progressive/leftist president. Unfortunately, our collective attention span is so short, such a thought dies aborning.
Extrafishy on August 24, 2011 at 6:06 AM
Proof that Obama is in real trouble:
Gallup weekly summary of last week’s daily tracking polls of Obama’s approval:
WHITE VOTERS: 32%
HISPANICS: 44%
Both are all-time lows with Gallup in his presidency.
technopeasant on August 24, 2011 at 6:22 AM
Problem: How to reconstitute the great, white guilt that vaulted him into the presidency. If he thinks there’s any of that left in his bank, he’ll be disappointed. The black, racist vote is a given as is the hard-core leftist vote. The Hispanic vote, not so much. Remember, even though it’s not polite to speak of it, there are racial divides between the black and Hispanic populations. More and more I see Turdboy’s only hope in a weak and uninspiring Republican candidate – McCain version 2.0.
SKYFOX on August 24, 2011 at 6:47 AM
Another point that Ruy Teixeira a Democratic political analyst brought up about the white vote.
40% of the white vote is considered white working class (no 4 year college degree.
In 2008 Obama lost this constituency by 18 points (58%-40%).
In the 2010 midterms it broke 63% for the GOP to 33% for the Dems.
Teixeira makes an argument that if Obama can re-assemble his coalition of minority voters as he did in 2008 and narrow the gap in the above constituency to 23 points he could squeak out a narrow victory.
But alas Teixeira makes the point that Obama is nowhere close to narrowing that gap.
And by sinking to 32% approval among WHITE voters this tells me that gap could have widened now to perhaps 32% or even 35%.
And in addition Obama who got 67% Hispanic vote in 2008 is nowhere close to reassembling his non-white coalition in which he picked up 80% of the vote.
technopeasant on August 24, 2011 at 6:56 AM
What do you call this Obama economy you dumb btch.
CW on August 24, 2011 at 7:02 AM
…because we might serve shrimp as food instead of paying “scientists” to watch them on treadmills!
dominigan on August 24, 2011 at 9:31 AM
Signs from God about America abound from yesterday! None of it seems to indicate that Obama will be serving past Jan. 20, 2013. 1/20/2012 — Change we can look forward to!
Mutnodjmet on August 24, 2011 at 11:32 AM
It’s actually very easy – but not politically so.
Stop the talk about the Bush tax rates – just say the rates are the rates and leave it be. Businesses love certainty – we can address the tax code improvements once the ship is steaming under its own power again. If you have to accept the payroll tax extension fine – it is stupid and doesn’t help anything but so be it.
You need to drop Obamacare – the fed regional reports keep mentioning it – that is why employers are saying no to new employees. You also need to eliminate every EPA regulation from that last 2 years and pass a moritorium on the agency’s rule making authority. Divert it back to congress with all rules requiring congressional votes.
Accept Ryan’s Medicare plan – it protects current seniors and starts to turn the trajectory in a better direction. It isn’t where we need to end up, but you have to walk before you run. It has already passed the House.
Roll back the federal budget on non-defense items by 5% next year and freeze them the next. Federal employees can live like everyone else and take a cut – but it keeps them employed.
There that is it. Simple. But politically the dems cannot tolerate any of them so it won’t happen. It hurts very few people, it is moderate in scope, and has a chance to help.
Zomcon JEM on August 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM
I can’t get too excited about Obama’s seeming demise IF it means the Republicans put another big-time spender like George Bush into the white House. Another Bush only means the RATE of spending will be cut NOT the spending itself and our fate will be the same-only a little bit more slowly.
MaiDee on August 24, 2011 at 5:14 PM
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