Quotes of the day
posted at 10:31 pm on August 22, 2011 by Allahpundit
“The video ends with her signature mama grizzly giving a roar and a message: ‘Thank you Iowa! See you again September 3rd.’ Palin heads back to the first caucus state that day to headline a tea party rally.
“Although there has been speculation that Palin may make her announcement that day, sources close to Palin do not believe that is likely. She is still seriously considering the decision and her husband Todd is encouraging her to join the race.”
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“In some ways, this will-she-or-won’t-she mirrors Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s campaign kickoff in August. The signals all pointed to Perry announcing a run at the RedState event in South Carolina, but there was just enough wiggle room to keep the expectation building right up to the moment Perry officially announced. Palin could be, and probably is, doing the same thing with her Sept 3 Iowa speech. There is a GOP debate at the Reagan Library on Sept 7. That debate’s location makes it a natural place for Palin and every other GOP contender to stake their claim to the Reagan mantle, so my gut call is that if she plans to announce, Sept 3 is the date, to set up her first moment on stage alongside the other contenders at the Reagan Library debate. Giving a ‘major, major speech’ on Sept 3 and then passing on the big debate that follows just a few days later doesn’t make a great deal of strategic sense.”
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“Charlie Gruschow, co-founder of event host Tea Party of America, told FoxNews.com he doesn’t know what Palin will do at the rally, but that ‘all we’re being told is that she’s going to make a major announcement.’
“Tea Party of America has already started running radio ads in Iowa promoting the event. And the group’s website has a poll asking readers not if but ‘when’ Palin will announce her candidacy…
“John Fund, senior editor with the American Spectator, said he thinks Palin is merely toying with the media. He said he does not think Palin will enter the race at this point, and dismissed claims that the Republican field is too flawed to be competitive against the incumbent president.
“‘Every Democratic field has been accused of having the same problems,’ he said, citing the 1992 field from which emerged Bill Clinton. ‘Once someone has the nomination, they will have demonstrated campaign skills, campaign abilities that will become apparent. And they will be competitive.’”
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“‘This is her last chance,’ Rove said. ‘She either gets in or gets out [after the Iowa visit]. I think she gets in.’
“A late entry into Iowa always raises questions about whether a candidate has the time to raise money, build an organization and meet voters face-to-face. Rove was asked whether a Palin candidacy might operate from ‘a different playbook’ — that is, one that does not touch the traditional bases in Iowa. ‘She thinks the normal rules don’t apply,’ Rove said. ‘If you’re Sarah Palin, you just show up and the money comes and the organization comes and the people come.’”
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“If Palin gets in, she is going to have to work very, very hard to rehabilitate her image among not just independent voters, but also — and I think this is key — conservative Republican voters who long ago gave up on the dream of a Palin 2012 candidacy and moved on. Many of those voters have signed on to other campaigns.
“While Palin fans may assure themselves that those former Palin supporters would come home quickly, I don’t yet see any evidence for that and think, at least initially, Palin would drag down everyone except MItt Romney.
“Don’t count Sarah Palin out. She keeps surprising everyone. But don’t count her the winner either.”
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“Her brand depends on her running because if she doesn’t, her followers will feel let down and she will have no apparent next act. Once there are two new nominees on the 2012 ticket, she is old news with no office to change her narrative. By 2016 she would be ancient history with either a Republican president in office or with a brand new crop of highly qualified challengers ready to pounce on what should be the slam dunk of replacing a term-limited Obama.
“My prediction is that she gets in and runs almost exclusively an air war intended to create the appearance of a real primary campaign without any of the hassles. She knows that her vote is pretty much set in stone and it won’t be impacted much, if at all, by creating a traditional organization. If she is as smart as I think she is, her goal would be to exceed low expectations and finish a respectable second to Romney and thus use the campaign to change minds about her for the future. In a sense, she would then become a hybrid of Romney and Mike Huckabee after 2008: technically ‘unemployed’ but well known and respected enough to sustain her viability into the future…
“If things break her way, she could end up as the last Tea Party Star standing up against Romney (not counting Ron Paul) and it would be possible that Romney would not be popular enough with the base to reach the vote threshold needed to put her away. Still, she could not beat Romney in a protracted battle because, as Obama proved in 2008, winning a delegate battle is still all about organization, an area when Romney would dominate Palin, who frankly may not even want to actually win the nomination.”
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Q: When is a good time? Do you have a timeline?
Palin: I have said that that August/September timeframe is important for logistical and legal reasons to jump in there, but…
Q: So by next month?
Palin: I think that just practically speaking that has to be kind of a drop dead time. Also, in fairness to supporters, who are standing on the timeline, and this is what I have told Todd over and over again, I don’t want to be seen as or perceived as stringing people along, asking supporters, ‘Oh don’t just jump in there on someone else’s bandwagon because I may jump in, so hold off a little bit.’ That is not fair to them. After another month or two goes by, they need to know who it is that they can jump behind. Now more than ever, everybody has got to get involved in this 2012 election. They need to get out there and campaign for their chosen candidates, its all the more reason to hurry up and decide.
A few moments later, there was this exchange:
Q: Will you know by the next time you are here in Iowa whether you will be in, over Labor Day?
Palin: I doubt it. By the next time I am here by September 3? I don’t know if within the next couple of weeks I will be ready for an announcement or not.
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“Three years ago DC pundits predicted with glee the demise of Sarah Palin’s political career. This past weekend their tune changed, citing false information that she has made a decision and set a date regarding a future campaign. Any professional pundit claiming to have ‘inside information’ regarding Governor Palin’s personal decision is not only wrong but their comments are specifically intended to mislead the American public. These are the same tired establishment political games that fuel the 24 hour news cycle and that all American’s will hopefully reject in 2012, and this is more of the ‘politics-as-usual’ that Sarah Palin has fought against throughout her career.”
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lol
:)no argument here…
hope you have a fantastic day today!
cmsinaz on August 23, 2011 at 7:56 AM
Fox News isn’t the same as it was. Their editorial slant is different.
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM
i tend to agree with you there…the only show I watch religiously is special report
cmsinaz on August 23, 2011 at 8:02 AM
Was watching FNC this morning when Frank Luntz came on and talked about the candidates and potential candidates,when he talked about Palin he was so positive i almost fell of the couch,i just did’nt see it coming.
heshtesh on August 23, 2011 at 8:03 AM
Great post, KJ! I’ve never understood this desire to pander to people who stand for nothing. State your Conservative principles with conviction and a reasoned argument AS A LEADER and they will follow.
Naturally Curly on August 23, 2011 at 8:05 AM
Waiting for Sarah Palin.
Memo to Karl: The rules don’t apply to Sarah. We are tired of your rules, Karl.
Everyone I talk to is waiting for Sarah.
texanpride on August 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM
Right back at ya. We live to post another day.
TxAnn56 on August 23, 2011 at 8:09 AM
Naturally Curly on August 23, 2011 at 8:05 AM
Thank you, my friend. That Independent Voter myth is the one that our ABP Trolls always expectorate out on Palin Threads. So, I did a little research.
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 8:15 AM
I would love to have a meet up on Sept.3rd! I will be working the event but after clean up I would be thrilled to meet my fellow HA commentators.
IowaWoman on August 23, 2011 at 8:16 AM
Actually, I think HA will be ok. How, I ask you, how will Knucklehead, KingGold, csdeven, Buy Danish and CW be able to post after their heads have exploded? How is this scientifically feasible?
Dongemaharu on August 23, 2011 at 8:23 AM
Dongemaharu on August 23, 2011 at 8:23 AM
Don’t forget MJBrutus, TheBlueSite keep the change, windandsea, etc.
It’s going to be messy around here.
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 8:25 AM
As am I. The problem is, what if she doesn’t show up? What if she announces she’s not running? The disappointment will hang like a black cloud over so many of us. Some will shift loyalties, some will say “To hell with it” and tune out. Palin knows this. She feels the pressure from all sides and I think she knows this is her time, right now, or it may never be. And it’s not just about ego although you can’t ignore that. It’s about a clear vision of the national destruction we are racing toward and the bright, hopeful path we need to move to. Does she see anyone else in the race who shares that vision? If not, she’s in.
Extrafishy on August 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM
I like your writing.
A lot.
CTSherman on August 23, 2011 at 8:41 AM
Can’t wait to meet steebo (my own state) and JetBoy. And anyhoo I wanna be on the same page with Pennsylvanians 4 Palin group-for whatever reason, maybe summer/kids I am out of whack.
Not easy living at the opposite side of the state, which is better anyways ;)
ProudPalinFan on August 23, 2011 at 9:02 AM
I think after the transition their servers are better/more or something. HA can handle more traffic. Will have to ask Ed on the next show.
ProudPalinFan on August 23, 2011 at 9:06 AM
Say what you want to about Sarah but there sure wasn’t this amount of speculation, excitement and suspense with any other candidate in my living memory and I can remember back to Roosevelt (FDR that is not Teddy).
Herb on August 23, 2011 at 9:08 AM
To name one group of Palin Democrats: Pumas
This group is nothing to sneeze at, large in numbers and strong activists.
IowaWoman on August 23, 2011 at 9:12 AM
You should be obsessing on your grammy instead of your fellow HA members you will never meet. She lets you live rent free in her basement and you owe it to her.
csdeven on August 23, 2011 at 9:12 AM
Sarah can run for the open seat in Arizona, and run in 16 or 2020.She also could run in Alaska same deal.
Col.John Wm. Reed on August 23, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Apparently not enough for Hillary.
csdeven on August 23, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Apparently not enough for Hillary.
csdeven on August 23, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Maybe not,but smart enough to know they made mistakes and learn from them.
heshtesh on August 23, 2011 at 9:20 AM
Apparently you missed the first sentence: To name one group of Palin Democrats: Pumas. Your attempt to change the premiss by omitting half of my post revels your dishonesty.
IowaWoman on August 23, 2011 at 9:24 AM
What happened to all the folks who said Sarah wasn’t running?
Why don’t you come back?
Her message from SarahPAC does give you an opening.
But after hearing Frank Luntz say she is running, you can’t return can you?
If Frank says it, it must be true.
technopeasant on August 23, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Name another.
There are none. So your premise that there are enough Palin democrats is silly. The only group that matters to Palin are the indies.
csdeven on August 23, 2011 at 9:27 AM
Too transparent Rove. We’re on to ya. So is Palin.
darwin on August 23, 2011 at 9:29 AM
KJ, that was an excellent writeup on Independents.
I sense this time around, we will see Palin Democrats pulling her over the top and if she wins the primaries, she will have a large coattail. This is why she needs to vet those hoping to take a ride on it. McVain got in along with a few other RINOs when Reagan swept into office.
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM
If only it were that easy, a conservative would be elected every time. It takes the ability to articulate reasoned principlesin concise effective terms.
This is where many candidates fall short.
csdeven on August 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Another solid hit my friend. 8)
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM
This nation is far more than any one person, far more than any one election. Anybody who decides to give up, tune out, etc. if their first choice of candidate doesn’t get the nomination, is a traitor to any principles they have pretended to hold.
Friends, we are talking about the future of the strongest foundation for civilization left in the world. If we are not willing to fight, and this is a very little fight, to the end for the best possible person to hold the office of President, then shame on us.
I wish there were a strong, consistent, principled and truly conservative candidate currently running. Michele Bachmann is very close to being that, but I’m not ready to believe that she can govern the nation. Nobody else currently running comes close. One who is not currently running is the ONLY person who meets my expectations, and indeed exceeds them. As others have said on this thread, I am waiting for Gov. Palin to run. But if she does not, any disappointment I feel over that will NOT cause me to throw in the towel and quit caring, quit trying, or quit fighting for this republic with my small amount of political interest. That’s a coward’s move.
It’s not about Gov. Palin. It’s about the United States.
Fight on.
Freelancer on August 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Exactly who are these Palin democrats? Not the PUMAS…there is no way they are going to support a republican at a higher percentage than they did for Hillary and they didn’t help her in the least.
csdeven on August 23, 2011 at 9:35 AM
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM
Thank you!
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 9:40 AM
Really? Because that’s just what they do – they support Sarah Palin.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM
Blah blah blah. My head won’t explode unless she wins the nomination and loses the general election. All of you who fantasize that she’s going to be able to get her approval numbers significantly up from the 30s are feasting on unicorn ribs.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 9:52 AM
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 9:52 AM
I’m curious. How do you explain the fact that Romney is fading away faster than the Nationwide Insurance Guy?
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 9:56 AM
Yep it happened in the mid terms, the Jacksonians, not happy with wealth redistribution experiment. The White southern blue dog democrat was almost wiped out in the 2010 mid term elections.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 9:59 AM
I’m curious – What does your question have to do with Sarah Palin?
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:02 AM
You haven’t been paying attention to the democrats railing against Obummer. They are sick of
hopedespair &changechains and will give a close look to someone who is optimistic and promises to do a 180. Mittness and any other CINO will only offer to bend the path we’re on, not turn around.That’s how Reagan got them and how Bush lost them. Forgot where I saw it, but while Reagan would have just simply won, the Reagan democrats were what caused the sweeps. Unfortunately, even tho he had coattails, the configuration of Congress was such that there weren’t enough seats in play to tip the balance more decisively in his favor.
With Mittness, these potential Palin Democrats will either hold their nose to vote for Oboobie or sit on their hands, because he’s offering ObamaLite, not real change.
This time around, it looks like the Senate will flip regardless of POTUS and is the most opportune time to have a solid trifecta, and all the more reason to have a strong conservative to push thru changes as fast as possible (a la Walker, WI) before the pendulumn swings back – i.e. not just defund, but totally dismantle the ABC agencies, get rid of the property etc stat, make it as difficult for moderates & progs to try and reconstitute them, reform entitlements etc. They need to hit the ground running and cement as much as possible before 2014. To accomplish this we need as much establishment types to be defanged by the mandate given the new admin. Mittness can’t and won’t do this because he doesn’t believe in “voo-doo” small govt policies.
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 10:03 AM
What’s your point? They supported Hillary and she lost.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM
I’m curious – What does your question have to do with Sarah Palin?
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Since, as you’ve stated so often, Mitt is the best candidate out there, wouldn’t he be Palin’s chief opponent in the primary, if she chooses to run? You’re very good at assessing palin’s faults, I just wanted to see how good you were as assessing your own candidates rapidly fading campaign.
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Instead of fantasies, I’d like you Palinistas to provide some hard evidence that disaffected conservative Democrats are more inclined to support Palin than Romney. Show us a poll or something, anything, to back up this theory. You can ruminate all you want but at some point there has to be something concrete to base your theories on.
P.S. She is not Ronald Reagan so you may want to put that tired talking point to rest.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM
I’m curious — who are these one-fifth-of-all-conservatives who, if given a choice between Palin and Obama, will (according to Rasmussen) vote for Obama, even if they now no longer have the excuse that they won’t know what kind of economy-crushing race-baiting nonsense they’d be getting this time around?
And who posts on here who actually calls himself or herself a conservative, yet will vote for Obama even if Palin should turn out to be the GOP nominee???
I’m just fascinated by that poll from yesterday — either that poll is complete BS, or we have a problem that’s larger than Palin or Obama.
Aitch748 on August 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM
They did support Hillary and when she lost, they stopped supporting the Democrat’s candidate – Barack Obama. That is how Party Unity My Ass was formed. Not during the primaries after Barack H Obama won the Democrat primary – after the fact.
Michelle Malkin had a post up about how the TEA party and PUMAS got Scott Brown (R) elected in bluest Massachusetts – Ted Kennedy’s legacy senate seat. That took Democrats and Independents voting for Brown because the majority of Massachusetts voters are registered Democrats.
My point is, Palin can pick up the PUMA vote. They aren’t going to be voting for Obama
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM
They did support Hillary and when she lost, they stopped supporting the Democrat’s candidate – Barack Obama. That is how Party Unity My A$$ was formed. Not during the primaries after Barack H Obama won the Democrat primary – after the fact.
Michelle Malkin had a post up about how the TEA party and PUMAS got Scott Brown (R) elected in bluest Massachusetts – Ted Kennedy’s legacy senate seat. That took Democrats and Independents voting for Brown because the majority of Massachusetts voters are registered Democrats.
My point is, Palin can pick up the PUMA vote. They aren’t going to be voting for Obama
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Sorry, I thought my first comment got stuck in the HA filter.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM
What on earth would Romney offer conservative Democrats that would lead them to choose him over Obama?
Aitch748 on August 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM
They will be added to the Palin Grassroots groups, the Tea Partiers (or Partyers, is there a ruling on the spelling?), Conservatives, Constitutionalists, large and small “R” Republicans, Independent thinkers… Pretty soon, you have yourself a nice coalition.
Fallon on August 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM
Since, as you’ve stated so often, Mitt is the best candidate out there, wouldn’t he be Palin’s chief opponent in the primary, if she chooses to run? You’re very good at assessing palin’s faults, I just wanted to see how good you were as assessing your own candidates rapidly fading campaign.
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM
I don’t know if Romney is a better candidate than Perry (It’s too early to tell). Mitt is a better candidate than Palin. But thanks for the opportunity to answer such an easy question and debunk your theory: Romney 48%/Obama 46%.
You’re welcome.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Oops – sorry – forgot to put kingsjesters quote in quotes…
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:16 AM
You’re welcome.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Nice deflection. Kidly explani why his candidacy is currently traveling down the porcelain receptacle.
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 10:17 AM
kindly explain.
kingsjester on August 23, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Palin was endorsing and campaigning for a lot of the folks who won in November 2010. Those seeds have already been planted. This is why people insist she stay in her king maker role. It’s why the MSM attacked her with the Tuscon massacre – they know she has influence on American voters. They get, she can sway public opinion. I haven’t seen anyone attacked in the media the way they attack Palin. No one and that includes Mitt Romney has gone through the LSM gauntlet. It looks like they are getting ready to put Perry through their chutes. Unfortunately for them – this isn’t his first rodeo. I don’t think they have the balls to attack his family the way they have Governor Sarah Palin’s family.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 10:20 AM
My point is: So what? They are not a large enough group to make a difference. As for Brown, he is not anything like Sarah Palin either in demeanor or policies, and she does not command his favorable ratings in Massachusetts, so what’s your point again?
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:22 AM
You are in denial if you think a spirited Reagan-type campaign, speaking directly to the voters, will not be successful. Reagan is mentioned as an example of the power of believing in Americans and of getting around the GOP insiders and DC establishment types, resulting in a White House win. This is the perfect time for a Palin candidacy. She has the same dynamic belief, not just in America but in Americans.
Fallon on August 23, 2011 at 10:24 AM
I’m not explaining it again. I can’t help it if you’re too thickheaded to get it. It could not have been clearer.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:25 AM
Willfully oblivious. I told you that a CINO will offer to be Obamalite and plans to make a 30 degree pivot to keep as much entitlements and spending as possible. While a Conservative seeks to do a 180.
If you think there is no potential for “Palin Democrats”, then explain why Ed Kock has endorsed the Republican challenger for Weiner’s seat?
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 10:26 AM
Yes she does. So do all the candidates. (With the possible exception of Huntsman. I don’t know enough about him, nor do I care to waste my time doing the research).
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 10:26 AM
I don’t give a flip what you “told” me! Just because you tell me something (like some kind of martinet, to boot) doesn’t make it true.
What the hell does that have to do with Palin? Palin is the last person a typical disaffected New Yorker would support.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Romney Admits “Overexposure” is His Greatest Enemy
Mitt Romney does not have anything to offer disenfranchised Democrats. If by some miracle he FINALLY started rising in the primary polls. These people would most likely stay home and not vote. De facto Obama get’s reelected. There is no point in voting for generic brand x candidate (Obama lite) when you can vote for the name brand candidate Obama.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 10:33 AM
Exactly. gotta love how the ABPers love to misconstrue as if we are arguing for Reagan 2. The only thing Reaganesque is strength of conviction that America is exceptional, exuberence, optimism and the strategy of talking past the media to the people.
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 10:33 AM
The “grammy’s basement” shtick again? Most people would be embarrassed recycling the same bizarre line every thread. Get some new material.
Dongemaharu on August 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM
No, most of them do not. Romney and several other GOP candidates have a belief in power, and in big government to fix things. They just hold a different view of economic policy than the socialist liberals. They are NOT conservatives. The term “Fiscal Conservative” is a dual lie. Everytime the fiscal push comes to shove they cave in, and they have no conservative principles to fall back on. Romney and those others are simply big government politicians who pander to a different base.
Bachmann, Cain, Palin and to an extent Perry, they believe in the American people above American government. There is a huge difference. Massive, and worth fighting for.
Freelancer on August 23, 2011 at 10:39 AM
First- stop with the straw men. I didn’t say you were “arguing for Reagan 2″. But you Palinistas are using historical stats about Reagan in an attempt to prove your case for Palin. And it is undeniable that Palinistas as a group try to compare her to Reagan.
As for the conviction that America is exceptional, I just got through saying that all the candidates believe that. Romney in particular wrote a book about it.
I’m going to have to read Glenn Beck’s Arguing with Idiots…
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM
You’re right. A democrat will not support Palin in the primaries unless they cross over. But if Palin wins the general, then they have a choice of Obama (who they hate), Palin or sit on their hands. If they sit on their hands, that’s a lost vote for Obama.
So yes, many conservative democrats, if they want to vote for something, will support Palin if she is the nominee because they ain’t liking Jimmy Carter 2.
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 10:41 AM
If there were any democrats supporting Romney or Perry you’d be crowing about them from the rooftops. For any candidate to have support from democrats, no matter what the size is a big deal. That means her ideas are crossing over.
darwin on August 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Ha! That, Sir, is absolutely pathetic. You take a stupid headline written by HillBuzz which distorts Romney’s point and try to make something out of it. There’s no there there, but keep on truckin’. And huntin’ and fishin’…
For the benefit of people who didn’t bother to read what Romney said, voila!:
Let me know if you’re confused as to what that means, and I’ll be happy to refer to the Idiot’s Guide to Understanding Simple Sentences and translate it for you.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:48 AM
It’s only a “big deal” if the numbers are large enough to secure a victory. And please, don’t take a hypothetical situation and tell me what I’d be doing. There are Democrats supporting Romney but I don’t go around “crowing” about it because it’s not Democrats but Independents which matter:
If you look at the chart (President Barack Obama vs. Potential Republican Candidates, Among Registered Voters, by Party, August 2011) you’ll see that Dems support for GOP candidates ranges from 10-12% range. Palin will not get bigger numbers than that.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:56 AM
First off I’m not a sir. If you are supposed to be arguing Mitt Romney’s merits as the Republican’s best hope, you are doing a poor job of it. If you are representative of Romney’s base, you reaffirm a negative stereotype. If you are just a liberal trolling than I apologize to the Mittwitts. You don’t do Mitt Romney any service, antagonizing or alienating people, who are within the demographic, he needs to win the Republican nomination.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 11:09 AM
The Democrat Party has moved so far to the left, there are very few “conservative democrats” remaining. Most of those people are now “Independents”.
You’re right. How could I have confused you for a man? With this idiotic, thin-skinned, self-righteous “retort” you sound like a Valley Girl. My apologies!
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 11:15 AM
I am an Independent. I used to be a Democrat. The last Democrat President I voted for was Bill Clinton. The last Democrat candidate I voted for was in 2008. Rick Noriega (D) because there was no way I was voting for John Cornyn RINO. I wouldn’t vote for Kay Bailey Hutchinson RINO either. KBH is retiring after 2012. I really hope a conservative runs for her seat. Would I vote for Mitt Romney if he was the Republican nominee? Texas isn’t in play in 2012, whether Rick Perry is the nominee or not(My vote would be moot) I would probably focus on the U.S. Senate and House seats.
I identify TEA party, you know the movement Mitt Romney stated he was in sync with/
What the Romney campaign doesn’t understand about Independent voters could fill volumes. To me, Mitt Romney is John F Kerry (D) with out the Military Service.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 11:18 AM
I accept your apology.
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 11:19 AM
I get it! Better to be a purist and fall on your sword. That’ll show ‘em! And great job enhancing the reputation of Tea Partiers – a group I used to consider myself a member of. Indeed, if you fit the profile of a typical member I’m reconsidering my support.
P.S. I used to be a Democrat. I am not an Independent. For one thing, Independents gave us the Clintons and now we can’t get rid of them. I have been a Republican since 1993 and I vote straight Republican.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Good for you, don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back LOL!
Dr Evil on August 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM
You mean after you patted yourself on the back for being and Independent? Gawd you’re thick.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 11:50 AM
[an (not "and") independent]
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Get it straight. The forerunners to the TP are those that voted for Perot to punish Pappy Bush for more taxes and punish the GOP again in 96 for giving us RINO Dole. We conservatives punished the GOP again in 08 for giving us McVain, rewarded the GOP with a strong House in 10 and will punish the GOP again if they give us Mittness or another CINO.
Maybe instead of focusing on the so-called independents that lean GOP, the GOP should focus on winning the conservative base. Otherwise they will be consigned to the ashheap of history in short order. Game on.
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 11:58 AM
ooookay, you’re proud you gave us the Clintons (and Barack Obama!) and you are scolding me for not giving the Tea Party credit. Got it! What can I do to spread the word cause this is exactly what the 2012 campaigns need to build Tea Party cred and save the world from RINOS. I mean, what could be better way to show em than 4 more years of depression/recession/managed decline/Barack Obama.
Riiight. Cause nothing says that more than standing strong on principle and electing Barack Obama.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 12:18 PM
Good. Then we’re clear that there’s a political divide on the right. I stand on principle that the Fed is limited and needs to get back in its bottle. You’re fine with anyone as long as they have their [R] decal and as long as they beat the (D)s.
Electing Obama or electing Obamalite is for all practical purposes the same; one or the other will destroy America soonest.
In closing, the sooner the GOP comes to grips with the constitution the better off it will be; if not, it will be replaced by a new party ready to take us back to where we belong. If the country isn’t phyiscally divided by then.
AH_C on August 23, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Maybe you should have a word with the one fifth of all conservatives who (Rasmussen claims) would vote for Obama (and not just stay home) if given a choice between him and Palin.
Aitch748 on August 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM
It’s not about Gov. Palin. It’s about the United States.
Fight on.
Freelancer on August 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM
It IS about Gov.Palin because it IS about the United States.
Amjean on August 23, 2011 at 1:16 PM
Instead of fantasies, I’d like you Palinistas to provide some hard evidence that disaffected conservative Democrats are more inclined to support Palin than Romney.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM
An example would be the gay guys in Chicago who run
Hillbuzz.com.
They were great buddies and campaigners of Hillary, despise
Obama, and are now Palin supporters. Check them out.
Amjean on August 23, 2011 at 1:18 PM
I got a job driving OTR. On the one hand, I hope I don’t get a load through/to Des Moines Labor Day weekend because of the traffic. On the other hand, maybe, just maybe, … .
davidk on August 23, 2011 at 1:53 PM
Just about everything you said is hysterical nonsense.
Show me the poll that says that. Thanks! Are you one of those idiots by the way?
Yes I know all about HillBuzz. They also post very silly stuff (which I addressed earlier at this very thread). They don’t represent a very large constituency.
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Congrats on the new job! :-)
Mary in LA on August 23, 2011 at 5:04 PM
The poll is discussed here:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/22/palin-event-on-labor-day-not-a-campaign-launch/
And why in hell would you assume that I’m one of those who would vote for Obama if his opponent is Palin??? You think I was saying “Maybe you should have a word with me and people who think like me”? That makes no sense. You tried to turn it into an insult and you came out with something nonsensical.
Aitch748 on August 23, 2011 at 5:30 PM
I sincerely! I thought you were saying that people would vote for Obama rather than vote for “him” (being Romney)!
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Argh! I sincerely apologize….
Buy Danish on August 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM
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